What's Wrong With Arsenal's Stadium? 

HEHE Come on the Albion...LOL

We barely lose at home unless it's to Liverpool or Man City...

Haha! Nice - I was gonna say the problem with the Emirates stadium is that Arsenal plays there :)

Arsenal is the fans dominatrix

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Heh, you at your age built the stadium? No wonder….

Bad Design Frenchie .

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And for only £40.000.001

@@cfa1998 😂😂

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And change the roof

Would be amazing, and incredibly expensive. Never going to happen.

@@Tullett88 it acc won’t be

I'm inclined to agree. I've only been inside once for the Emirates Cup in preseason, but aside from having to walk steps instead of ramps or an escalator, the seating in the upper tier of the Clock End was great. My only other complaint was no ice in the soft drinks. Seriously Britain, what's up with the ice shortage thing?

Slightly better? Are you serious?! Spurs' ground is unbelievable and designed so incredibly well to the finest of details. Slightly, what a muppet.

@@marktaylor4216 People said the same thing about the Emirates when it was brand new as well. Let's wait 15 years and see what happens to Spurs' stadium.

@@tomshea8382 Tottenham's stadium is completely different. It's an arena, not just a football stadium. Therefore, the maintenance and standards will always be of the upmost importance. The stadium will constantly be changing to support different events. They have their skywalk and much more things to go there. Therefore, it'll always be maintained. The best stadium in the world and design from Levy won't be neglected. So we'll see in 15 year's time.

@@marktaylor4216 I'm not talking about neglect. I'm talking about normal wear and tear. And the best stadium in the world is 8 blocks from where I live and is over 100 years old.

timing was definitely unfortunate! While Arsenal was paying debt, Roman was pumping billion pounds in Chelshit and then Citeh got bought out too a year after. Couldn’t compete with free money which those two plastic clubs never have to repay

The timing is the best possible; £390 million spent on it is a massive bargain compared to the £1 billion Tottenham spent on their stadium.

@North Bank bit salty there my man.

@@johnm9893 £390m initial build cost. An additional £200m in renovation, barely 16yrs into its life. That pushes Emirates up to £600m. If you look at the Spurs stadium, although that cost £1bn, it is in a completely different league. Even the staunchest Arsenal fan will admit that.

@@johnm9893 And that’s why the Emirates is dated and falling apart

Or citing Old Trafford's "potential future renovation" as something to aspire to, while it today is an embarrassment

To be fair the new stand at anfield is already antiquated

Staying at Anfield was by far one of the best decisions that Liverpool have ever taken. Wouldn´t trade it for anything.

Have u ever been to the emirates it’s out dated

@@harrypitter-bread2635 have you been to anfield? It’s stuck in the 1920s

I highly doubt it was either nasri or fabregas

Or Alexis Sanchez or Ozil.

Should never have moved!

Try sitting at the top in the nou camp. Its even harder too see

Vieira* pity it seems you were so close to the pitch and still couldn't read the names.

I think the problem is expectation, you go to Molineux or Turf Moor you get what you expect (and the fans pay far less). When you go to the Emirates or Wembley you expect state of the art and modern and you are let down.

Yeah. I mean the real problem is the fact that it's really difficult to expand in some of those grounds let alone build a New Stadium. Chelsea explained to me that in Order to build a new Stadium. We'll have to build around an overground and a couple underground train rails which will be very difficult compared to in America that they can just move the Team to another part of the State (Atlanta Braves) or to another part of the Country.

This is a weird video to be honest, I have never heard a rival fan nor a home fan complain about the actual design or modernity of the Emirate's stadium. The quiet fans of previous eras? Sure. The fact that the fans aren't close to the pitch? Sure. But, the actual facilities (pitch, inside the stadium, quality) etc, just seems weird to complain about.

same at turf moor. we cant even get signal in the ground let alone wifi lmao. went emirates away this season, and the number one improvement needed at the emirates is their fan atmosphere lol

First world problems indeed, but its still an inefficient application of resources. And for the money spent, and for how the stadium was advertised ''world class modern'' etc, its something you would expect.

Most people nowdays just go to post it on their snapchat stories sick to death of going to footie games and just seeing people on their phones scrolling through social media or just taking selfies. Just watch the game ffs

@@samwize28 Stadium was build in 2004 it was extremely modern for its time. But technology has just evolved so much over the last 20 years. It’s still a great stadium and I find it hilarious that people are complaining

@@justsamoo3480 yeh that’s valid. It’s crazy how fast things can advance in the space of just 15 years

You're so right there are loads of giant fruit bowls all over England and don't get me started on Wembley That's just one massive fruit basket complete with handle 😆⚽🥅🏐😎🍀

There are rules defining things, such as distance from the stands to the pitch and the steepness of the incline of the stands. Which decrease i now "intimidating" how modern stadiums can be. I think the distance from the pitch is a UEFA rule, the answer is what you sometimes see in Euro matches in older stadiums, when 3 or so rows of front row seats are not used for those games.

@@jackjude thats for the reply and rhe explanation, that makes alot of sense. Shame it's killed the feel of stadia so they are all cookie cutter designs now

Blame pessi

Now i read this a long time ago and cant provide any links / source for it, but allegedly Arsenal could have built a 90k stadium and filled it to almost full capacity for every PL/CL match, but it was somehow scrapped and wenger opted for the 60k option. Probably due to something reasonable like logistical difficulties of having public transport accomodating 90k around the site on matchdays, but nevertheless... I'm sure the London club Arsenal anno year of starting construction for the Emirates would have had no problem selling out the 90k stadium.

I don' t think Wenger had anything on how the seatings are designed. He talked about how great Highbury because of how closed it is felt to the supporters and how players was able to hear and celebrate with fans. He always have much better words for Highbury than the new one.

Think its more to do with Islington council they were very strict as with anything in around London development its hard

If those superficial changes arsenal are planning will take 40 weeks imagine how long those ones you've mentioned would take... where would arsenal play their home games whilst the stadium is being turned upside down?

And old Trafford which is in the middle of nowhere is literally falling apart.

I have, and huge crowds are often left outside angry because no one really helps either. It gets to the point where 2/3 ppl are squeezing in with 1 ticket and stewards just let it happen

For me is the poor dull atmosphere. It’s always so flat nothing like Highbury

This season has been a menace.

Blame pessi

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@@_BK.05 blame penaldo

@@_BK.05 because he's ghosting against big teams as well as small teams

@@thewolverine7516 what????!! 😂😂😂Ronaldo scored a hat trick against Tottenham while messi is struggling in the McDonald’s league, pipe down 🤫🤫🤡🤡💩💩

You loved the food? Seriously?

it's not so bad once you consider inflation

@@exgardevior they've consistently had the highest average season ticket prices in europe... in what world is that "not so bad" lol

@@onetwo8847 well... considering they sell out every year with thousands on the waiting list... evidently, people think it's worth it?

@@exgardevior do I really need to walk you through why this is a silly point...? If League One's Plymouth Argyle suddenly started charging the highest season ticket prices in Europe, some people would still buy them as they have a ridiculously loyal fan base. That wouldn't make it good value... Season ticket value should be judged by the price Vs the quality of the players/performances you are watching. So yes, Arsenal's season tickets have been objectively overpriced for years. The fact that they sell out doesn't change that.

@@onetwo8847 people would still buy them? sounds like you’re talking about hypotheticals and things that have never happened. Arsenal sell out their season tickets, and have thousands more on the wait list. so whatever they charge it might not be “value” but the worth of an item is hm people are willing to lay

I’ve only noticed it in the centre of the east stand was chucking it down the whole game although it hadn’t been raining for 2+ hours

Hardly surprising with 18 year old pumps

That's not an unpopular opinion at all, people just don't say it because it's obvious. Of course winning stuff in any ground will give any fans a better connection to a place because they have better memories there.

This is completely correct. That whole video amounted to a 16 year old stadium needing new turnstiles and needing better food service. Arsenal had incredible success at Highbury, and have had moderate success at the Emirates. That is the reason older fans miss Highbury! Typical response from the media when Arsenal are having a decent run of results.

@@joshsalter8581 are you saying Tifo football are "the media"? Arsenal have announced these plans themselves. Tifo has made a video explaining why this would be case on a stadium most fans would still perceive to be new. And then you appear to overreact, thinking it's an effort to put Arsenal off the top 4! Chill out, it will be all right in the end.

you are absolutely spot on

That’s true of course but you clearly haven’t visited the stadium. It has so much potential but needs upgrades like safe standing, beers pitch-side, better food, renovations to the exterior and interior decorations, including screens, fixing the leaky roof and a new turnstiles system. Of course the love for a football ground can change if you win things there but it also definitely needs some care and upgrades…

100% it just highlights the plasticity of English football fans.

@@paulturner9542 you mean Premier League fans!

@@paulturner9542 Well actually it's a very decent point. If your team is involved in a relegation fight or top 4 battle on the final day of course you're gonna want to check the scores as it decides your clubs future and is very important. Maybe not in your league where there is no competition whatsoever, but in England, games and tables actually matter.

They go to the Stadium for selfies...

It’s because it’s just a copy and paste of Estadio da Luz. Embarrassingly, they had to spend money afterwards on ‘Arsenalfication’.

@@imconfused1237 yeah it’s extremely lazy. I’m also curious why the club didn’t simply move the 1930s Art Deco sections of Highbury to the new stadium, allowing the club to preserve it’s history. I can understand it’s heritage listed but surely it could have been done.

@@btb3614 I don’t think you can migrate listed buildings; however it wouldn’t of required that. A more thoughtful design could’ve incorporated some homage, albeit in replica form. Instead, there are very tacky murals and artefacts such as the canons. All feels a bit cheap and an after thought (…because it was) I personally find Emirates a grim stadium. They try to pass off that unfinished breeze block in communal areas is a nod to industrial design, as opposed to skimping on the finish-out. You then have a stadium whose perimeter is laced with voids, allowing any atmosphere to leak away. 16 years old and already a leaking roof says it all doesn’t it.

@@btb3614 Would have been very difficult and expensive tho. When every part of a job is being supplied/built by the lowest bidder, that's the last thing you want.

@@imconfused1237 the voids are to allow air flow in. The design of the stadium is to ensure the pitch was of the highest quality. Which it is although i’ll admit newer technology in grounds keeping makes this no longer required. The voids could be used to increase capacity although the local infrastructure cant support it, so we’re capped around the 60k mark.

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That´s basically the issue with British cuisine as a whole ^^

@@mafiousbj Ouch!

@@mafiousbj If you think British cuisine is bad, you've never had fish & chips or a korma curry. Top tier, and so much better than some 'gourmet' foods which is just overpriced, underportioned muck.

@@IlikeTrainsguy100 that some of our top tier dishes is literally fried fish with french fries is the issue ^^ But is not the local chefs, I have tasted some awesome flavours, just that compared to Meditarranean cuisine our local dishes are lacking in variety (and I always thought of Curry as an Indian dish). Of course you are free to mix flavours from any country :)

Sofi is a giant design flaw

Whilst that's true, I still think arsenal jumped the gun, 2006 is modern day but it was still way behind compared to the technology we have now, it almost feels like arsenal could have kept Highbury until around 2016 onwards and started to build an Emirates that is state of the art. It feels like by even 2012 the Emirates was outdated I feel like spurs stadium will take a lot longer to become outdated

@@anotherhappylanding4746 It's easy to say now. Arsenal was on the height of its glory when they started the New Stadium Talk. Highbury Stadium capacity was 38k. Emirates Stadium is 60k. Almost double the size and it's always sold out. Arsenal was outgrowing itself and it needed change. And good thing they did change. Who knows what'd have happened after they lost their core players. Yes the Stadium can't be compared to today's standards, but I think people are making it a much bigger deal that it actually is.

I'm an arsenal fan and I find it interesting

It's hardly looking up by Arsenal standards. Top 4 is where Wenger was criticized for 10-12 years to be at.

@@palashrawat401 Top 4 was less contested and easier to get back then tbh

Nothing is being ignored lol. You don't just plan work on a stadium within a few weeks... this would've been long in the works. And it has nothing to do with the football side of things.

But the walls need painting!!

Your team will have 14th league title :,0

Exactly especially after seeing how close the seats are to the pitch in the Tottenham Stadium. It is not the fire code it is lazy and incompetent design

More than likely would have cost more than building a new stadium

Couldn’t as people were living there

You're not wrong. But you also have to take into account the banter era which the club was going through. Arsenal has been playing good football this season (we'll pretend this CP match never happened) and with the return of fans after Covid, the Emirates has become one of the most electrifying grounds in the Premier League.

Highbury was never intimidating, give over

lol

Would have been funny a few months ago....

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@@SmoothOperador I was going to say the same and I'm a Spurs supporter.

They should just move back to Highbury

That will never see any trophies.... FACT!

It should be, it cost 3 times as much and is 18 years younger, can't say that about the team though 😂.....and it's a toilet seat 😂

@@jackdominiak445 tottenham stadium > world cup final 😎🤑 emirshits > women's fa cup final 🤣😂🤣😂

@@Warthog1976 just like you never see any tinpots in EUROPE !

They will go down again awful awful club

FACTS! Arsenal had to pay stadium debt for ages while some teams like Chelski and Citeh got billion pound free gifts which they never have to repay

you immediately bring up your rivals and how they ‘arguably’ have worse stadiums with issues. Why care about them? Don’t you want better for your club? (Not sure how a new spurs stadium is bad but I’ll ignore that)

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Wrong. Arsenal DIDN’T pay Emirates off. They still had £160m of debt outstanding. That has since been wrapped into an even bigger £350m ‘structural loan’, arranged last year.

Highbury's atmosphere and performance will always remain unmatched unfortunately

Wembley is the premier stadium in London with much bigger capacity, they'd never have a CL final in the city that wasn't at Wembley.

@@Chigz10 Not even the new Tottenham stadium? Outside of London, Old Trafford hosted the 2003 final

Yeah you’re the only one 😂😂😂

Arsenal isn't cashcow for KSE, they're doing the same thing they did with the Rams and yes while it may have taken and might still take some time, these stadium improvements are somewhere we can start to see the Kronke's in a positive light

There is no "nel" in Arsenal

Disagree, the timing was perfect. The cost of building the stadium compared with the likes of the Toilet Seat or Wembley for example. Arsenal did this right when they were ascending to the top of English football, and could capitalise on the increase in fan base. Plus, it was long before any other club could think about doing it. Imagine Spurs trying to build such a stadium in 2002?

@@JoeCool90 You are a biased fan... The Spurs stadium is in a whole other league than Emirates

@@victorkoot and you didn’t read what I wrote.

@@JoeCool90 It was the right decision to built a new stadium yes; but the design was poorly done especially when you compare it to the Alianz Arena of Bayern Munich which was built and designed in the same era. Calling the Spurs stadium a toilet seat basically already proves that you are already looking with resentment at it.

@@victorkoot so now you can speak to the feelings and sentiment of a stranger on the internet? The shape of the roof is well known to look akin to a toilet seat. It’s humour. Turn off your internet every now and then, go outside for a walk buddy. Listen to the birds chirping, the brooks babbling, and the bees buzzing.

People hop on Arsenal because their fans are famous for being idiots

That’s what City do. The very back 3 rows or so of the South Stand third tier are £320. It’s like 500 season tickets out of 42,000. Then they’re like ‘look we’ve got the cheapest in this survey’.

Highbury had WiFi 100 years ago? Wow, it really was ahead of it’s time.

That’s cap, highbury was historic but it definitely had problems and showed it’s age

well thats just not true

@@cristiancardenas5822 timeless, so timeless the marble halls remained.

@@paulturner9542 that’s nostalgic bs. The seats were cramped, the queue was enormous, the bathrooms were a warcrime, and there were pillars that would block the pitch. I love highbury, but it was not a beautiful stadium that had no issues.

It was impossible to redevelop Highbury, but this is what I like we're doing at Liverpool 😊

Might want to start by letting the womens team play there more regularly first. At the moment it’s not their home stadium

@@danielrainford2004 Sure, they should hopefully get to play there more often if more people go to watch them. Hopefully things will change on the front. However, it is their club and the Emirates stadium reflects the club as a whole.

@@sahilm2002 Don't really think the women's game is big enough to really justify it yet. Tho yes when their game is big enough put up some of their legends too.

You can't get reception, especially during peak times like half time. Or I can't anyway!

by far the greatest team the world has ever seen 🔴⚪️

@@northbank1886 no league in 20 year no Europe trophy London is blue 💙⚪️

@@northbank1886 Arsenal are the greatest Lolcow in all of sports. Stan Kroenke has brought more joy to the world than Santa.

@@northbank1886 i Know, it brings so much laughter to rival fans T . T

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Actually, looks more like Kings Lynn

Your spot on!! The two ends behind the goals could and should have been a Mecca for the more vibrant / Lively and younger home and away supporters. Instead what you have is about 20 rows for fans that actually want to create and enjoy a proper football atmosphere and then corporate boxes and membership expensive seating with additional upper tier seating full of wealthy families and 60 yr old men and there 85 year old dads! The dynamics are all wrong at this stadium

The video commentator is the epitomy of the corporate spectator.

Nope

apparently it already has problems, its sorounded by a airport, and a sewage works

Lower capacities

They only mention the cheapest season ticket, not the average one.

Minimum price is just as fair as average, it just tells you a slightly different thing. West Ham seem to have a big range of prices, so would probably go up on average, but I think Arsenal have been the most expensive for a while now, whatever way you look at it.

I’d you want to be truly mathematical, it should be the weighted average. This would reflect the proportional capacity at each price point.

Yes because the Kroenke's wouldn't write off any of the debt.

Yeah, kinda bizarre this video’s tone is like it’s old and rickety and falling apart

@@seadkolasinac7220 It's Arsenal, so the negativity always has to be exaggerated. Nothing new

@@iykeharrison9161 the world doesn't care enough about you to be against you, no offence pal

@@dansouthlondon9873 Thank you world speaker

@@iykeharrison9161 just telling you from a non-rival non-big 6 point of view that no ones that bothered by Arsenal

As a Chelsea fan I would never trade Stamford Bridge for a modern state of the art stadium.

£200m seems a lot for “cosmetic”

You told lies about Anfield though. Ain't no leaky roof to be found there.

Leaky roofs, dodgy screens, faded stadium seats etc isn’t state of the art you melt

@@Bickle121 those come under upkeep, maintenance. State of the Art is structural & technical. Older stadiums can do a max of upgrading a stand, wont make it state of the art.

@SeanL74 Arsenal have a 60,000 Seater Stadium that is almost always full for PL Matches, they have a 40,000 Season Ticket Waiting List (despite being mediocre for nearly 20 years) and they have the 4th biggest fanbase of any English Football Club. It wouldn't be hard for Arsenal to regularly fill a 100,000+ Seater Stadium, especially if you went back to winning PLs...

The Emirates is never full. Ever. Indeed, it has become a running joke that Arsenal make their attendance figures up. The sight of empty seats is commonplace and only a fool would ever waste their time denying it. ‘Waiting lists’ are hollow boasts. They often contain individuals who’ve no interest or means to purchase a season ticket, particularly when appraised of the significant cost commitment involved. They shy away. It would also make little commercial sense to inflate capacity; but rather, a constraint in this regard reinforces scarcity and maintains a price premium. Only a fool would work to dilute their brand value.

@@imconfused1237 Empty seats hasn't at all been a problem this season at Arsenal league games and only a fool would waste their time denying it

@@hegeliandianetik2009 And what does that reflect? A hopelessly fickle fanbase of ‘happy clappers’ who readily disappear when they’re not interested. It’s hardly an advertisement for expansion.

@@imconfused1237 *There are indeed empty seats at Arsenal Games (understandable considering how bad the club have been since 2006). However, it's not really the case that Arsenal are "making up the attendance figures", but rather they are defining it in terms of Tickets Sold for that Match (especially Season Tickets) rather than by Ticket Holders who actually turn up. Hence why actual attendances do not match the official figures. That's why Matchday Revenue & Average Attendances per Season have remained more or less the same for the last decade. Even if the Empty Seat issue has gradually got worse. *The thing is however; it actually costs quite a bit of cash to join the Season Ticket Waiting List (since you need to become a Red Member & pay to join the list itself) and stay there for every year. Thus in combination with the fact it's well known that Arsenal Season Tickets are quite expensive, it's almost certainly the case that the people (more or less) on the Season Ticket Waiting List are people who do actually want to get Arsenal Season Tickets. Especially when almost nobody would be insane enough to spend money for being on waiting list for season tickets...when they don't want said season tickets anyway. *Considering that I have established that Arsenal do have of Season Ticket Waiting List of around 40,000 (based on the figures I could find) and have the 10th Biggest Fanbase of any Football Club. Then it makes absolute sense to build a bigger & better stadium for Arsenal, especially if Arsenal end up in a position to being contenders for the PL & CL once again. Regardless; what this shows is that Arsenal really need a more ambitious and free spending set of owners, mainly because that's the only way they can return to winning major trophies and getting that bigger & better stadium they need.

The problem is that when you focus on 1 area, you lose in another. Single tier means the seats get further from the pitch, for example. British stadia were traditonally 4 stands, but people forget those stands tended to have fans in the corners too. AFC will never have raucous fans with the current pricing and entry restrictions. Ultimately it is run as a business with "customers" detached from what football should be about (see the vid presenter!)

Thats the San Siro for the most part.

@@signoresantinoburnett1169 San Siro is fantastic. Absolute crime that those crooks have wanted to destroy it and replace it with a corporate tiddler for so long.

Things are a balancing act. 1 tier means unified sound and atmosphere. 2 or 3 tiers means upper parts are potentially closer to the pitch. I like a stadium with a mix of options.