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What's Wrong with Spanish Coffee? 😥☕ 

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Something is very wrong with Spanish coffee. If you buy a pack of coffee in the supermarket, or a café solo in a bar, it too often tastes like acrid burnt rubber. Want to know why? In this video I delve into the mysterious world of torrefacto! So venga, let’s go! 🥝
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When I first moved to Spain in 2011, I would buy all my coffee at the supermarket. But it never tasted very good. It always had this acrid, bitter flavour. I drink my coffee black, and I found the stuff I was buying and drinking in bars almost undrinkable. It was like burnt rubber.
And then one day I looked a little closer at the coffee packet. And I noticed this common word, “mezcla”. I knew that mezcla meant mix or blend. But I thought - a blend of what? So I read further, and then I started seeing this word “torrefacto”. I had no idea what it was, but I suspected it had to do with what was going on with the coffee in this country.
So I started investigating further, and I discovered that torrefacto is a process that is applied to coffee beans sold in Spain that make the coffee taste, well, horrible. How the tradition got started is connected to the civil war. And why we still drink torrefacto coffee in Spain is about tradition, and, well, habit.
In this video I explain what torrefacto is, do a taste testing with my wife Yoly, and head to Toma Cafe to get a good cup of coffee!
Below is a list of great coffee places in Madrid:
Toma Café (Malasaña)
Toma Café (Chamberi)
Cafe Tornasol (Antón Martín market)
Zero Point (Lavaiés)
HanSo Café (Malasaña)
Coffee & Kicks (near Puerta del Sol
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Hola, Spain lovers! We're James and Yoly. James is a New Zealander, and Yoly is from Spain. And we both live in Madrid. This channel is all about giving you a local insight into life in Spain, and helping you experience this country like a local when you come to visit (or live!). If that sounds like your kind of thing, bienvenido!
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@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
When I first moved to Spain, I couldn't figure out what the coffee tasted so bad. So I did a little investigating. And that lead me to the mysterious world of torrefacto. Have you tried coffee in Spain? What did you think? Let me know in the comment below - I'm very curious!
@Expert1911
@Expert1911 5 лет назад
Just moved to Naples Italy from Hawaii. I did love those Hawaiian beans; will I have to be on the lookout for Torrefacto here in Italy, maybe by a different name? (My wife is from Spain so she has been giving me the basic tour of food and drink)
@matthewkoslow3221
@matthewkoslow3221 5 лет назад
it took a while for me to find good coffee in spain. i did find out i like a cafe con hielo though
@JamesPearson1
@JamesPearson1 5 лет назад
What you describe is extremely similar to what is served in Vietnam - sugar roasted robusta - quite sure that’s a colonial hangover too! I expect robusta has always been much more available, it’s so much easier to grow.
@anairenemartinez165
@anairenemartinez165 5 лет назад
It just like espresso in Italy or Cuban in Miami.
@anairenemartinez165
@anairenemartinez165 5 лет назад
@@Expert1911 You drink Starbuck? Spain coffee is good Starbuck is bad.
@archibaldhadock5811
@archibaldhadock5811 4 года назад
The cofee in Spain is for people who need start live. A dead man with close eyes became a Spedy Gonzalez or Correcaminos with eyes like dishes, the diferent: "un cortado, por favor". We don´t need coca or nothing like this.
@mrthye290
@mrthye290 4 года назад
LOL remember that we sleep one hour less, in average, than other europeans
@Apatxi1022
@Apatxi1022 5 лет назад
I love that I can get a cafe con leche in a raggity bar pay 1.50 of even and its better than Starbucks imo
@PluslineNeko
@PluslineNeko 5 лет назад
The good thing about Starbucks is that it's triple the size of a regular bar's milk coffee. Some of us like our coffee extra big :)
@midcenturymuse
@midcenturymuse 5 лет назад
@@PluslineNeko I can never taste the coffee in a Starbucks cappuccino or latte. And it's much more expensive.
@Tamara-ov5vw
@Tamara-ov5vw 5 лет назад
Actually u can have coffee in many places for 1 euro
@Rabmcm32
@Rabmcm32 5 лет назад
Bill-Guille Yes you need to ask for an extra shot in Starbucks .
@shinyshinythings
@shinyshinythings 4 года назад
AZ One of my very favorite things about Spain! Walk into any little bar and put down a couple euros and you get a beautiful cup of really strong coffee, often with a little chocolate on the side, and served in a real cup, not paper. Sigh. I miss it.
@TheKnight2017
@TheKnight2017 4 года назад
try starbucks in America, it taste like water
@PerroExtintor
@PerroExtintor 4 года назад
Try Starbucks in Spain, that is literally water xD
@stickychocolate8155
@stickychocolate8155 4 года назад
Starbucks is better than most chain coffee places in US. But coffee in general is not great here. Australia really knows how to do coffee.
@Emy53
@Emy53 3 года назад
I am not a Star Bucks fan and I really don't understand why so many drink it.
@coleparker
@coleparker 3 года назад
@@stickychocolate8155 Disagree, I was in Australia, most of the coffee I got there was Star Bucks rip off recipe; with a slight bend towards more of milk shake than true coffee.
@coleparker
@coleparker 3 года назад
@@Emy53 I live in California. I am not a fan of it as well. The reason it is popular is due to pure marketing.
@shinyshinythings
@shinyshinythings 4 года назад
This is so funny to me. I really love Spanish coffee! I couldn’t figure out why it tasted so much stronger and (to me) tastier than what is typically offered in the US. To find out it’s 15-20% burnt sugar makes it all make sense, because I’ve always loved anything with that bittersweet burnt caramel flavor. So thanks for the explanation! 😂
@mercurywoodrose
@mercurywoodrose Год назад
see, some of us find this appealing!!
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Год назад
It's only in Southern Spain
@syrkaros5815
@syrkaros5815 4 года назад
Interesting story. I'm Spanish and I didn't know anything about this. BTW, I like Spanish coffee, LOL
@mercedesgc
@mercedesgc 3 года назад
Wow, congratulations! You really went deep in your research about Spanish coffee. I’m a Spaniard and, in my opinion, our coffee sucks! 😂😂😂 I lived in Brazil for a while and I was amazed of how good their coffee was, and you didn’t need to go anywhere special, any place around the corner would do the trick. Mind blowing good 🤯❤️❤️❤️
@aprillynn3785
@aprillynn3785 5 лет назад
Nipple-hardening mix?! LOL. The sense of humor in these videos is great...love it!
@niccihurley9423
@niccihurley9423 5 лет назад
This was the funniest video Blick has posted. I watched it 2x because it was hilarious.
@shaylafrahm961
@shaylafrahm961 4 года назад
I laughed out loud when he said that
@rodneykahn6927
@rodneykahn6927 4 года назад
carmelized sugar will do that to ya
@essanchezblanco
@essanchezblanco 4 года назад
It's funny, I'm Spanish and have been an expat for over 20 years now. I had to watch your video to understand why I miss Spanish coffee so much. What I miss is my torrefacto!! I didn't know it was such bad quality either... But I like it that way. It must be the emotional factor you mentioned. Great video thanks!
@user-of4bf8dl5r
@user-of4bf8dl5r 4 года назад
I am also a Spanish migrant living abroad, and, even though I knew about torrefacto and Spanish coffee's bad quality, I also miss the Spanish coffee with torrefacto!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Totally good point! Good/bad is a matter of taste :)
@user-uw3fi2zg4t
@user-uw3fi2zg4t 4 года назад
desgusting
@111olbap
@111olbap 2 года назад
It's not bad quality. The author of this video is profoundly arrogant, and I, who am also a Spanish person, was deeply offended by it. I don't know where you're living now but if you're living in any of the Commonwealth countries or the USA I'm sure you've noticed that the coffee is actually worse than in Spain. I live in Canada and I am about 120Km away from the nearest place I know of that serves a tolerable espresso. If I were in Spain I could walk 50 metres to the nearest bar, cafe, restaurant, or even chiringuito, and get a very very nice coffee. Here in Canada I am surrounded by Tim Hortons. Terrible terrible coffee. I was heartbroken to see Tim Hortons opening up in Spain the last time I visited. There's one in the Renfe station in Alicante!
@111olbap
@111olbap Год назад
@@user-of4bf8dl5r The coffee is not bad quality. You should always ignore arrogant expats like the author of this video. He comes to Spain from abroad then claims to be an expert on all things about Spain. He's pathetic.
@MrHoodlum73
@MrHoodlum73 5 лет назад
I never had a "really" bad coffee in Spain, this is new to me this info. One of the things that I love about Spain, is just the coffee. And I don't like bitter coffee so I must have been lucky then trough out the years:) Mostly I drink cafe con leche bot also from time to time a normal cafe, and the combo of coffee and milk in Spain are wonderful.
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Yeah, if you're drinking with milk then most of the time you won't notice the flavour
@jesuscora
@jesuscora 4 года назад
@@spainrevealed Wrong in that, James! It's noticeable even as a latte machiato (leche manchada). Ewww! Yuk! I get the shivers! 😂
@estherh2142
@estherh2142 4 года назад
And you are right, what this guy is saying does not make any sense.
@dmn1000000
@dmn1000000 4 года назад
I love coffe in Spain and most spanish people seem to like it too. Its only ever anglophone people I see complaining about the coffee in Spain but everyone has different tastes! The reason Cafe con leche tastes unique is because in Spain they usually use UHT milk rather than fresh milk and I actually prefer it with coffee.
@111olbap
@111olbap 2 года назад
The people in this thread saying the coffee in Spain is bad... I just don't get it. I love coffee and have had it in about 15 countries all over the world and Torrefacto is my favourite.
@Berilac
@Berilac 5 лет назад
Once again, James and Yoli expanding the list of cool places that I need to visit in Madrid (and I've been living here my whole life)
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
I'm glad!!!
@orsors2129
@orsors2129 5 лет назад
It's a testament that you can get use to anything - even bad coffee. Unless of course you're Italian. They would never put up with a bad cup.
@Dakiniwoman
@Dakiniwoman 5 лет назад
Oh God, I miss Spanish coffee... I lived in Spain for 9 years from 1968 to 1977 and since my return to Canada I have never had a "good" cup of coffee... We never made coffee at home in Spain... it was our treat to go to a Spanish Bar for coffee when we went out to do our shopping. Oh Lord that little Bar across from the back of the Fish Market in Fuengirola had the best Tapas and the best coffee... Maybe it isn't even there anymore? If anyone ever goes there... Her potato salad was to die for!.... I don't know how to spell it but she called it "Ensalada Rusa"... If I remember it correctly, it had her home made mayonnaise with the potatoes, green peas and tuna... and not sure what else... but I still dream of it and I haven't been back to Spain since 1981.... I lived between Fuengirola and Mijas Pueblo, so we took a long bus ride to get to the fish & vegetable market either way. Yes, I dream of having a "Sombra".... In those days it was not served in a cup & saucer, it was served in a small clear glass.
@Desnickada
@Desnickada 4 года назад
In Portugal we don´t have the mezcla café and I notice when I bought café in a spanish supermarket that most of the coffee (100% coffee not la Mezcla) was from a portuguese company (Delta - Campo Maior)
@gollick
@gollick 3 года назад
Delta do fantastic coffee. I see that in many places in southern Spain too
@PM-ld4nn
@PM-ld4nn 2 года назад
Delta? qué coño es eso. Creo que es barato.
@MrZxcvbnm22
@MrZxcvbnm22 4 года назад
Wait... an english man complaining about spanish coffee?? really?
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Haha yes! (Though I’m not English, I’m a Kiwi)
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Haha yes! (Though I’m not English, I’m a Kiwi)
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Haha yes! (Though I’m not English, I’m a Kiwi)
@aitorruiz9364
@aitorruiz9364 4 года назад
@@spainrevealed I love kiwis, they taste so niiiiice
@alesolano9081
@alesolano9081 4 года назад
@@aitorruiz9364 jjaajajajjaa
@yaszsz
@yaszsz 4 года назад
I'm Spanish and you are SO right. I literally can only have coffee in very few specialist coffee shops these days, which luckily are opening up more and more! I miss the Aussie coffee shops
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Год назад
Should move to the north where coffee is not torrefacto.
@Shmalick
@Shmalick 4 года назад
I live in Spain myself and I think this is the 1st time someone is complaining about their coffee. I absolutely love it and everytime I travel up north it kills me not to be bale to have a decent coffee in the morning.
@dTristras
@dTristras 4 года назад
So true
@Herr.Mitternacht
@Herr.Mitternacht 2 года назад
People from Spain can't see it cause they don't live in a place where coffee is amazing like Italy
@Shmalick
@Shmalick 2 года назад
@@Herr.Mitternacht dude, it’s the same coffee hahaha we’re neighbours and many Italians live here
@Herr.Mitternacht
@Herr.Mitternacht 2 года назад
@@Shmalick It's not the same coffee. People associate Spain with good tapas and wine but not with coffee. Italy is considered the best place for an espresso or cappuccino. Spanish people don't take proud in the way they make coffee and that's fine. But don't kid yourself and think you can find great coffee everywhere in Spain just like in Italy. If you don't find a difference is because you don't know anything about coffee or just do half coffee half milk from a carton.
@PM-ld4nn
@PM-ld4nn 2 года назад
@@Herr.Mitternacht You have never been in Spain. Italian coffee and spanish coffe are very similar. If the author of the video is complaining for the Spanish coffe, then If he were in Italy then he would be complaining much more, because Italian coffe is even a little bit stronger. He is used to drinking very very very smooth coffee and he only have felt the huge difference between both drinks.
@knowyourhistory
@knowyourhistory 5 лет назад
"torrefacto tasting time." This is the first time I wasn't jealous about what you guys were tasting.
@janetlombardi2314
@janetlombardi2314 4 года назад
What a great informative video. I'm very much a coffee lover so will certainly be looking out for the right blend. Thank you for sharing
@guenzburghdcl7637
@guenzburghdcl7637 5 лет назад
Thanks for the info on Spanish coffee, I found coffee in Spain terribly bad, yet Portuguese coffee was perfect among the best in Europe, 2 countries so close together yet with really different coffee quality.
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
But two very different colonial histories - hence the difference in the coffee
@v.j.routed5310
@v.j.routed5310 4 года назад
I totally agree with you. It'is incredible how in the Iberian Peninsula can be a country that's a great barista culture and another that uses "torrefacto" on a daily basis and also likes many people. Luckily there are more and more specialty coffee shops and roasters in Spain.
@eduardoserrao7372
@eduardoserrao7372 4 года назад
@@v.j.routed5310 I guess Portuguese coffee is better, but I don't know if it means better 'barista culture'...
@bertieb9510
@bertieb9510 5 лет назад
After all these years you have answered a question I always asked myself. Thanks.
@chrismalcomson7640
@chrismalcomson7640 4 года назад
I go to cafe's where the coffee is good. Down in Andalucia the workers usually have a cafe solo with a brandy before going to work so a bitter taste might give you the kick start you need.. You can also ask for a 'sobre' which is a sachet of instant ..
@antoniootero-unbuencaminan7840
@antoniootero-unbuencaminan7840 4 года назад
Great video. Well documented staff. Keep it up.
@nemesisj
@nemesisj 5 лет назад
Thank you, James, you just saved my mornings! Keep up the good work!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
haha my pleasure
@luluq01
@luluq01 4 года назад
Hi James, being born in Cuba, I couldn’t stomach the coffee in Spain. However, Cuban coffee ( very dark espresso) is always drank with sugar. Very rarely do you see anyone drink without some sugar. I don’t know if you have ever visited Miami and had some Cuban coffee- as my Dad would say “the elixir of the gods”. You could always drink a “cortadito” which means adding some hot milk into your coffee. Let me know if you want me to send you some Cuban style coffee from Miami.
@gollick
@gollick 3 года назад
Espresso always with a sugar for me No sugar in any other coffee though
@Mr198587
@Mr198587 2 года назад
I lived 14 years in Miami, and my stomach couldn't tolerate the Cuban coffee, too sweet and strong. I stick to my Spanish coffee
@platoon1026
@platoon1026 Год назад
I quit drinking American coffee about 20 years ago in favor of green tea. But recently I found a small restaurant in Chadd’s Ford,PA that makes Cafe con Leche. With a little sugar and a side of Cuban bread, it was delicious. It brought back memories of mi abuelo in Tampa. BTW, they make a very good Cuban Sandwich(Miami style).
@Croakph
@Croakph 5 лет назад
Muy bien explicado! Gracias por la aportación, buen experimento y buen ritmo. Se os felicita!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Gracias!
@naturegirl8104
@naturegirl8104 5 лет назад
Really helpful guys. Thank you.
@snobworthy6927
@snobworthy6927 4 года назад
I really enjoy your videos! You and Yoli are awesome!! Keep it up!!!
@UmbrielLuna
@UmbrielLuna 4 года назад
My husband and I say we moved to Spain for its coffee! Guess we’re in the minority of liking the everyday café variety - before we knew about torrefacto we certainly thought it tasted more “robust” than elsewhere in Europe. My husband takes sugar, and I like con leche, so maybe Spanish coffee stands up to those additions better ☕️❤️🇪🇸
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Год назад
Depends where you go in the country. In the half-north of the country you have Natural and never torrefacto. In the south they commonly use torrefacto. So it's a matter of where in the country you are going. The guy in the video was making a generalization, when in reality is a very regional thing.
@pabloparra2484
@pabloparra2484 4 года назад
Very interesting channel, btw... Manda cojones that a foreigner teaches me about Spanish traditions xD. Good job !
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
haha - thank you!
@ericdumont4301
@ericdumont4301 5 лет назад
Thank you, James. I live in Spain and coffee here is mostly wretched gut twisting battery acid. I avoid coffee like I avoid the fluorescent Paella on the Costa del Sol. As far as I am concerned it is a scam run by a coffee monopoly. I am baffled that so many folks are okay with it. Taste is not as relative as some would have it and some things are just disgusting - period. Torrefacto is disgusting. So what if a few philistines like the taste? Their taste buds have been melted away by the toxic brew.
@111olbap
@111olbap 2 года назад
As a Spanish person, I am offended by your comment. It is not gut twisting battery acid. That's what coffee is supposed to taste like, but you probably came to Spain from the USA or Canada or the UK so you're used to what is actually horrific low grade coffee, and you think that's what coffee is supposed to taste like. Also, as a person whose entire family comes from la costa del sol, how DARE you call our paella "fluorescent?" That's what it's supposed to look like when you use the correct amount of saffron and other ingredients that give it that color. The Costa del sol is IN Valencia. Valencia is where paella COMES from. You might as well say "The pizza in Naples is garbage". How ignorant are you bro? I find it tragic that people like you think it's ok to move to another country and then trash the local cuisine which was never intended for your tastebuds in the first place.
@111olbap
@111olbap Год назад
@@theotherspain Dear moron who makes assumptions: I have never lived in Spain. I live in Canada. I have travelled, also, to about 30 countries, all of which I have enjoyed coffee in. I've been to Spain about 20 times because my family is from there. Do you feel stupid yet? You should. What kind of idiot goes to another country and assumes to be an expert on a culture they weren't born into? You are a pompous, arrogant, pathetic excuse for a human being. You're not a spaniard, and you will never be one, yet you assume to be the world's leading expert on spain when you're just a pathetic expat who left his country of birth because he couldn't hack it there. You're probably chronically single too, aren't you? You a little lonely buddy? TRULY you are the most pathetic person I've found on the internet in the past 12 months. Who hurt you? Are you upset because you're only 140cm tall or something? Do you act this arrogant around your Spanish friends? Spaniards tend to have a very low tolerance threshold for arrogance so I'm assuming you don't. Keep living a lie buddy. Enjoy.
@mercurywoodrose
@mercurywoodrose Год назад
i trained under alfred peet, and im sure he knew of this, and he probably didnt care for it, but i do. i have a trained palate. i tend towards very dark, very bitter, i dislike any hint of sourness, as found in light or medium roasts. so of course i would find torrefacto interesting. i also like white and green tea, and can drink all without cream or sugar, so i trip on incredibly subtle flavors. as did alfred, whose eyes would roll up in his head tasting room temperature teas at a tasting.
@micasteer8851
@micasteer8851 5 лет назад
Great video . I'm a coffee lover and there is some decent coffee in Spain for sure . My favourite is Italian or Portuguese coffee . Good job guys. Hugs from London
@joedavies50
@joedavies50 5 лет назад
Go to Parcería Cafe for some great coffee if you're ever in Seville.
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Thanks for the tip!
@frankshally9456
@frankshally9456 5 лет назад
As usual another great video from James. Now I know where to go for good coffee.
@Caarlcost
@Caarlcost 5 лет назад
This is one of your best educational videos, mixing perfectly tourism, history, culture, food and entertainment! Btw loved your Sevilla videos, are you going back to record some more in the future?
@professorbacteriano
@professorbacteriano 4 года назад
Love your definition of how torrefacto tastes. Funny video! 🤣
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Thank you!
@DUKART
@DUKART 4 года назад
I love the way you talk, its super easy to understand you. Great video!
@pg.ledesma
@pg.ledesma 4 года назад
Well, I'm spaniard and I thought the opposite when I travelled to USA: Why is the coffee so light here (in USA)??
@jessicasinmas
@jessicasinmas 4 года назад
Me to ...I'm shocked with this topic tbh
@bloodcarver913
@bloodcarver913 4 года назад
Same as the US beers...all watery
@pabloparra2484
@pabloparra2484 4 года назад
Well American coffee is famous for being ultra light. Hence the term "americano", which is coffee with water.
@claveelgarron4049
@claveelgarron4049 4 года назад
Because they normally use different types of machines and coffee
@gmo882
@gmo882 4 года назад
Europeans like their coffee dark roast. people from United States and Canada prefer lighter roast coffee.. so the roast changes the flavour profile big time. there are other factors that will affect taste
@albwixmp
@albwixmp 5 лет назад
Thanks for this excellent explanation. That's something we, Spaniards, discover when living abroad: why the hell coffee tastes so bad in Spain? You gave us the answer! Thank you!
@sugarpop7377
@sugarpop7377 5 лет назад
albwixmp I used to buy my coffee beans in La mexicana . Colombian it’s always been my favourite.
@angyliv8040
@angyliv8040 4 года назад
No habrás estado en asía. No puedo con el café aguado...
@danielmasters5484
@danielmasters5484 4 года назад
Exactly!
@Dangic23
@Dangic23 5 лет назад
Puerto Rico produces one of the best quality coffees in the world...100% pure coffee.... People still put sugar in it.
@mar_casabuena7503
@mar_casabuena7503 4 года назад
Yes, en España se consume mucho café de la hermana Puerto Rico y de muchas partes del mundo. Pero aún hay muchas cafeterías de baja calidad, que usan cafés malísimos.
@Sophiesmakeupbag
@Sophiesmakeupbag 5 лет назад
I had no idea about this! I knew that Spanish coffee wasn't my favourite, and now I know why! Thanks for the awesome content, as always :)
@rafaelalbertotorrescuenca7189
@rafaelalbertotorrescuenca7189 4 года назад
Totally true! That's why I love Portugal...
@omnidani
@omnidani 4 года назад
No tenemos ni idea de café. Viví en Italia y allí si que lo cuidan.Pero jamás piso un starbucks tsmpoco.
@vigodrakken7916
@vigodrakken7916 4 года назад
Muy Cierto!! Vivo en los Estados Unidos y siempre traigo la maleta llena de Lavaza.
4 года назад
Starbucks es otra basura comercial, no usan torrefacto pero no es normal pagar 3€ por un café mediocre, cuando en una cafetería especialidad española te pides un latte por unos 1,50 y un espresso a 1,30
@mar_casabuena7503
@mar_casabuena7503 4 года назад
En todos los sitios no hacen un café decente, por eso las buenas cafeterías están a tope, la porquería de torrefacto es horrendo. Italia es otro nivel.
@steviespaind4307
@steviespaind4307 4 года назад
Hi James, just stumbled on your channel, been bingeing on your vids. Excellent stuff :) I lived in Spain for about 14 years and often wondered why about, mebbe, 10% of Bar/Restaurant coffee wasn't as good as the rest. Now I know! And, I used to think that Spanish coffee was the best in the world, until I went to Rome! Yes, 3 times the price, but man, it is seriously awesome coffee!
@lukeharber2058
@lukeharber2058 4 года назад
Fantastic video. You've fully explained something I've wondered about for yeeeears of regualry visiting Spain! Genuinely baffles me that anyone can like torrefacto coffee!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
I’m pleased!!!
@brianwhite1189
@brianwhite1189 5 лет назад
Very interesting, thanks!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@DominicPannell
@DominicPannell 5 лет назад
I love Spanish coffee.
@shinyshinythings
@shinyshinythings 4 года назад
Dominic Pannell I’m not the only one I guess :)
@luismarques9280
@luismarques9280 4 года назад
No you don't but you'll not know it until you drink Portuguese coffee
@DominicPannell
@DominicPannell 4 года назад
@@luismarques9280 I've visited Portugal several times and the coffee is good there, too... but I've spent nearly two years in Spain (Malaga, Madrid and Barcelona) so I know Spanish coffee better.
@CookingwithYarda
@CookingwithYarda 3 года назад
I've been in Spain twice and the coffee there always taste amazing !! Even in the small train station coffee shop ;-)
@dougm3037
@dougm3037 5 лет назад
Hi James. I now make my coffee Vietnamese style with condensed milk. I'm not a coffee pedant but I do like filtered coffee in the morning due to its strength. Four weeks with cafe leches in Seville in two days. Will I survive? I also liked the tiny cups of coffee the Portuguese serve up. Real heart starters.
@marcosbrocvalls
@marcosbrocvalls 4 года назад
Very good informative video as always. James Blick is a fantastic communicator and even Spaniards can learn two or three things through his eyes. It is true that some cafeterias in Spain serve quite a bad tasting coffee, but it may not all be down to torrefacto but to their ability to prepare coffee and maintain their machine. While torrefacto started as a way to provide cheap coffee to the masses, it is not anymore a matter of low quality/price. Supermarkets offer packs of "natural" coffee side to side with "mezcla" at different proportions, and people can buy the kind of coffee they prefer the most. They are often sold at exactly the same price. If it was so terrible, people would only choose "natural", so I guess it is some kind of a developed taste for that dark burnt flavour, the same way as Americans enjoy the overburnt meat from a barbecue while my mum would make a scandal and throw it away. Let's not forget that coffee as a drink (like chocolate, for example) is already a highly (naturally) processed product. We are not talking about eating an apple from the tree nor eating the bean from the bush! I live in the Philippines for most of the year and my only choices here if I am out are American coffee shops, as I am not so much into the brewed coffee that a few Filipinos drink. Sometimes (but not always), I would like to enjoy that particular unique burnt torrefacto flavour, even better in cortado (Italian macchiato is lovely but I do love variety).
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Thanks for those thoughts Marcos!
@BobbyShels
@BobbyShels 2 года назад
Hi James, glad to see you all well on the live stream the other day. I have a quick question ahead of my trip to Madrid at the end of November. I love Saula coffee it’s all I buy here at home (in Liverpool) for the cafetière, however this is obviously a Barcelona brand. Is there a Madrid equivalent you would recommend/ have heard others recommend that I could pick up on my trip? Thanks mate
@osccampos013
@osccampos013 5 лет назад
Si tienes un viaje planeado a Miami, tendrás que probar un Cafecito Cubano. No te lo pierdas!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Ok!
@marcelfernandezromero8905
@marcelfernandezromero8905 4 года назад
Yo soy cubano y cuando voy a Cuba les llevo Tirma, que es de aquí de canarias, a ellos le gusta.
@foyorama
@foyorama 5 лет назад
Try a cortado, learn what to order, then perhaps you will see that a cortado is what you need, or if you like US coffee or otherwise “dirty water” order an Americano
@twinkletoes800
@twinkletoes800 5 лет назад
Qué interesante! Muchas gracias ♥️
@willsonize2278
@willsonize2278 5 лет назад
Great video thanks we are off to Seville on Friday and got an apartment so will come in helpful 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧
@happyluckygolden
@happyluckygolden 5 лет назад
Great video. I really don't like torrefacto, but I've had to adapt to it. Milk and sugar help a lot. In Uruguay, not a coffee drinking nation, it was all I could find in supermarkets. Gah! I think they call it glaseado, Now, can we have a video about why when you order a glass of orange juice, it always comes with sugar packets? :)
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Good call on the sugar packets! lol
@notorio666
@notorio666 5 лет назад
Great video as usual. Maybe you could make one about your fav cafeterias in Madrid!
@vladimirl8753
@vladimirl8753 5 лет назад
Excellent video, James and Yoli! Muchas gracias! I found Spanish coffee excellent, much much better than Starbucks. Always get either caffe con leche or cortado in bars and it is nearly always excellent! I never bought mezcla in supermarkets, as I use Nespresso capsules at home. Thank you for explaining this Torrefacto story- very interesting! Keep doing your nice videos! All the best!
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Thanks Vlad! Yeah, if you're having with milk, you won't notice as much.
@vladimirl8753
@vladimirl8753 5 лет назад
Next time I am in Spain will try caffe solo remembering your video! :) thank you very much for your entertaining and positive videos! You are the best!
@rubenthinks
@rubenthinks 4 года назад
I love this explanation. Did not know.
@TravelAddictGuy
@TravelAddictGuy 4 года назад
Wow, now I know why the coffee sucks in bars here. I can hardly drink it most of the time. Luckily there are some great specialty coffee shops in Madrid now.
@danielmasters5484
@danielmasters5484 4 года назад
That explains everything. I love Spain, but I always wondered why the coffee is so horrible. Why do the Spaniards put up with this?
@tximeleta35
@tximeleta35 3 года назад
I live in North Spain and coffee is fine. Must be a Madrid thing
@mercedesgc
@mercedesgc 3 года назад
Why do we? Indeed! I’m a Spaniard and I couldn’t agree more. I think the answer is that you don’t realise just how bad it is until you taste a good one travelling abroad 😆
@PM-ld4nn
@PM-ld4nn 2 года назад
Do you prefer to drink water with brown dye and to imagine that it is coffee?
@jeri94002
@jeri94002 3 года назад
Thank you for this very informative vid. I’m a coffee snob and always travel with my French press and coffee. I was looking forward to tasting the coffee of Spain on our next trip, thanks for the knowledge!
@gerifwt7392
@gerifwt7392 5 лет назад
Very interesting, now I understand why it was hard to find good coffee for our Mocha Espresso when we were in Madrid. Thanks for the info!
@gyroscopicme
@gyroscopicme 4 года назад
Fascinating!
@welshtoro3256
@welshtoro3256 5 лет назад
It's true James. I always add a sachet of sugar to to my tiny glass (cafe en vaso). I don't have sugar anywhere else. I'm very pleased to get to the end of my coffee and wash it down with a, far superior, fresh orange juice to rinse my mouth out. You did a great video explaining the history of Spanish coffee. Spain is such a fast cafe culture that it's going to take a long time for the coffee to change. We tend to eat with the coffee too so it disguises the poor quality. Stuart at Spain Speaks did a video of this also. Cheers. WT
@Christ-qk7or
@Christ-qk7or 5 лет назад
Ah, this explains a lot! Can't wait to go back to Spain to try some torrefacto, knowing it's torrefacto 😅
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
haha let us know how you get on!
@jonshipp
@jonshipp 4 года назад
I have to say, one of the best coffees I have ever had was in Spain at a roadside service station on the A8 somewhere near Ribadesella. Muy rico!!
@luismarques9280
@luismarques9280 4 года назад
That's because you never tried Portuguese coffee ;)
@tyronesmith3020
@tyronesmith3020 4 года назад
@@luismarques9280 no one cares about your coffee man
@luismarques9280
@luismarques9280 4 года назад
@@tyronesmith3020 yes you do kkkkk
@johnclark3697
@johnclark3697 4 года назад
Great stuff never realised why I always preferred Nescafe when living in Toledo Valencia & Jerez.. Thought it was me being fussy👍👍👍🥰🥰🥰🥰
@Ce2009ce
@Ce2009ce 4 года назад
Lol..that was a funny opening🤣
@FerminTrujilloEspetero
@FerminTrujilloEspetero 5 лет назад
Another great vid, mate! I have an idea for a video which I'd love to see you guys make: the cold, harsh reality of the amount of street crime here in Madrid these days (not to mention how bad it's got in Barcelona). I've been in Madrid since 2011 like yourself, and the change these past 8 years has been crazy (I got mugged myself in Sol last month). I know it's not a fun topic to cover, and I'm well aware of people not wanting to touch upon it for fear of being politically incorrect, but given the current levels of street crime in Madrid, I think as a warning to tourists and wet-behind-the-ears guiris thinking of coming here, a video on how to make sure you don't get pickpocketed/scammed etc., would be absolutely priceless information.
@ForestRain44
@ForestRain44 4 года назад
I drank coffee when I was in the Basque Country and I thought it was very good. Maybe they don’t use torrefacto there?
@blancatamayo3589
@blancatamayo3589 4 года назад
You’re right. We don’t really like torrefacto so much. We prefer it natural. Of course you can take bad coffee everywhere in the world, but I‘d say that in the Basque Country you can usually take very good coffee.
@angyliv8040
@angyliv8040 4 года назад
I’m from Spain and I love spanish coffee.
@abcoh4440
@abcoh4440 4 года назад
Im basque and was about to write that. You can buy it at supermarkets, but in cafés and bars its very rare that they serve torrefacto or “mezcla”. But I order in other parts of Spain I make sure is natural
@IndisSongs
@IndisSongs 4 года назад
Gracias! por este video, seremos más cuidadosos al comprar café. Cheers!
@alanah8032
@alanah8032 5 лет назад
I like the new editing style 😁
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Thank you! Carlos, my editor, is fantastic!
@RodrigoFontes1985
@RodrigoFontes1985 4 года назад
Dude. Simply don't buy the mezcla, but the natural one (It is the yellow box...) But I understand the sensationalistic click-baity subject is better for the views. Source: I live in Spain as well :D
@marga_784
@marga_784 4 года назад
Simple y bien explicado :)
@jblondon1327
@jblondon1327 5 лет назад
Coffee is fine in Spain. If you buy the cheapest blend why complain? There is a big choice in the big supermarkets and some shops. You can buy 100% coffe beans, grind and brew it at home no problem with a coffe maker like the one in the video. My mother always did it that way.
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
The issue is a lot of the coffee available in the supermarkets is either torrefacto, or if it's natural, it's robusta, which doesn't taste very nice
@zillie313
@zillie313 5 лет назад
The issue we had with the coffee in Spain wasnt with the espresso being bitter, but rather the drip coffee being sour. It was as if everyone brewed light roast, and we werent fans. But cafe con leche was always a good back up for us.
@111olbap
@111olbap 2 года назад
To which I respond- who goes to western Europe and orders drip coffee? You know?
@johncullen429
@johncullen429 5 лет назад
love watching your Channel...so informative. are you going to do anything on Portugal, Porto, Lisbon. They are only next door to you. Best of luck johnc
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Lisbon coming in a week and a half!
@talu890
@talu890 5 лет назад
what an interesting video! thanks! I´m going to madrid in two weeks and although I dont like bitter flavors I feel like I have to try it.... also, I´m interested to know: last time I went to madrid I remember seeing in different menus "cafe con lechce" and also "cappuccino". whats the difference between the two?
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 4 года назад
Enjoy!!! :)
@111olbap
@111olbap 2 года назад
Just order a "cafe solo". It's espresso. Any other way of drinking coffee is inferior.
@nicolashogan6580
@nicolashogan6580 5 лет назад
Great video!
@annehenderson7911
@annehenderson7911 5 лет назад
Very educational, hilarious and authentic. I love this channel. I have always enjoyed strong black coffee, but I am not sure that I can handle nuclear! Lol. I guess I might need to drink something else when I return to Spain. Thanks for the history of Torrefacto.
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
haha - thanks Anne! Let us know how you get on!
@janiceszwast6725
@janiceszwast6725 5 лет назад
I enjoyed the video very much. What kind of coffee maker is it that you used to make coffee in your kitchen?
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Thank you! Just the typical Bialetti-style (but not that actual brand). But if you Google Bialetti you'll find it.
@janiceszwast6725
@janiceszwast6725 5 лет назад
Thanks. I’m looking forward to your next video.
@midcenturymuse
@midcenturymuse 5 лет назад
​@@spainrevealed The one you used in the video is an actual Bialetti -- the logo is engraved on the side. Have you tried using a lower flame and shutting it off as soon as the small bubbles appear? Makes a huge difference in the taste.
@ishasingh3720
@ishasingh3720 5 лет назад
Omg finally a kiwi youtuber passionate about Spain I just discovered your channel today
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Hehe welcome!!
@JaxsaSkepticalMisanthropy
@JaxsaSkepticalMisanthropy 4 года назад
Good coffee is on the north of Spain, and better with milk and without sugar ;)
@burkley57
@burkley57 5 лет назад
Interesting research. Glad to find this out. I also find there is a deep seeded tendency to burn the milk when preparing a con leche, latte or capu. But I look forward to checking out your recommendations. Thanks
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Interesting - I never have my coffee with milk, so haven't noticed that. But good to know!
@palmviktor9518
@palmviktor9518 4 года назад
James , you are a genious! From Argentina
@atm4292
@atm4292 5 лет назад
I've 'always' been an espresso coffee lover... thanks for your input into my 'expertise' and experience. PS You guys make Mondays feel like Sundays. Thx! PSS I drink Kazaar from Nespresso, made in their espresso machine.
@adrianramirez221
@adrianramirez221 3 года назад
Toma is one of my favorite places, glad to see it as one of your examples of a good local coffee shop!
@keithlow3056
@keithlow3056 5 лет назад
Cheers Guys, I did wonder why Mezcla coffee existed. I will definitely check out the coffee list as love a tasty coffee.
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
Enjoy!
@TimeLockLady
@TimeLockLady 5 лет назад
Great video! I missed Spanish coffee while living in England, and now that I am here I can notice the difference. However, I do like mezcla! I find it good for cortados, café con leche and just general small sized coffees. The problem I saw in the UK was that, even if you could find nice coffee, only the chains (not Starbucks, ugh!) and the special little shops would do a nice coffee for my tastes, everywhere else it would just too watery, and that's just not nice! This is my opinion though, I still think Italy are the masters of coffee!
@Marciap17
@Marciap17 5 лет назад
Great tip James. I had no idea there was such discrepancy on Spanish coffee. I’ve lucky, mostly sticking to Cava 😁
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
haha good idea
@jakob913
@jakob913 5 лет назад
Thanks for a very vivid explanation. When I moved to Spain, I did not like the coffee here, so I would put a lot of sugar, and also, I learned to ask for Cafe Americano which is the same coffee but they add more hot water for yoy. So, this makes my coffee in a bar taste better😂
@christinedoyle2168
@christinedoyle2168 5 лет назад
James how do you know what the bars are serving? I now know what to look for in the Supermarkets but what about my usual cafe con leche (er, and no to sugar in coffee, sorry Yoli). 😊
@spainrevealed
@spainrevealed 5 лет назад
You sort of don't. But if it's a traditional place, it'll likely be serving torrefacto. I'm sure there are exceptions.
@Claxiux
@Claxiux 2 года назад
I'm spanish and I had no idea about any of this. I just assumed it was so bitter because it was concentrated in a shot. Informative, cheers!
@Sekbeth
@Sekbeth 4 года назад
Does anyone know what that music is that plays when he’s making the coffee?
@MrQuestionmarkanswer
@MrQuestionmarkanswer 4 года назад
Thanks for this video! I was not impressed with the Coffee in Spain and now I know why.
@mariagabbott
@mariagabbott 3 года назад
Hahaha "it could be tar distilled" - you really sold me torrefacto Yoli 🤣
@jmatt4life
@jmatt4life 4 года назад
That’s the same type pot I use to make my daily espresso. Mine is La Cafetierre. It’s espresso and I require sugar! I use regular, medium roast, espresso grind. I get a very, lovely, dark result!
@itube0047
@itube0047 4 года назад
I am 2:30 in, and this plays out like a crime show! Haha :)
@04steen
@04steen 4 года назад
I'm Spanish and I don't like Spanish coffee. I hate torrefacto, to me it has no flavour or aroma, it's just bitter and sour.This video was really interesting for me . I didn't know all those historical facts. I'm an expat and enjoy my non Spanish coffee. I miss many other wonderful things and products from Spain, but certainly not torrefacto. Curiously enough many Germans and Americans here in Berlin tell me they love Spanish coffee and ask me how I can live without it! :-)
@ytglobersanglobersan5842
@ytglobersanglobersan5842 4 года назад
I'm Spanish and you are absolutely right. Torrefacto is terrible but it's like spicy food for South Americans, they cannot it eat without it, its the same for coffee with Spaniards. I myself don't like coffee anyway, torrefacto, watered down, or the best Italian, it's not for me. I also was expecting for you to get more flak from Spaniards, but apparently not. I mean when you are right you are right. Keep up the good work.
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