This thing really should have included the option to have a signal directly between the Portal and PS5 (as long as you are within a certain range of the console) for a consistent, solid experience. And then allow wifi for all other scenarios.
@@c1nnabun The Vita did allow this with the PS4. Though my experience with that wasn't great. Whether using wifi or the direct link between the Vita and PS4, sometimes it would be playable, but more often than not it wasn't. This was even with me holding the Vita inches away from the PS4. So even if they had included the option to do a direct connection between the Portal and PS5, I still would have waited for reviews to see how well that worked, but at least it would have been a step in the right direction.
Yesterday while playing the portal my son came in and said our WiFi had gone out. And it had. We had an outage in the area but the portal stayed connected the whole time and never disconnected. I even switched games to see what would happen and it let me play. I don’t know how this worked but it did.
@@michaelmyersplays4992it could easily. They could easily make a steam deck esque portable that could play psp in 4k, and ps2 and ps3 games. Devices like the ROG Ally can play almost all ps4 era titles at 60fps, they are missing a lot of potential here
They should have added the replaceable sticks the edge controller has, I think it was really stupid not to incorporate them....its only a matter of time before these sticks start drifting
You didn't mention there is no web browser so some wifi connections that require a login cannot be used. Basically you are still locked to using it on your own WiFi.
On third Dual Sense controller in 3 years also starting to suffer same stick drift issues. Original SKU and new. The ultimate stress test with Portal will be time, and I don’t think it will fair any better.
@@XVNRXThe DS4 that came with my launch PS4 got stick drift and the DS that came with my launch PS5 also developed stick drift. Had to get a new one to finish FF XVI because the game has like a zero percent dead zone. I never had any stick drift on any other console. Even my launch joy-cons are still fine. It’s been only DS that came with the console for me, so I’d also be cautious about the Portal if there is no easy way to repair it.
@@XVNRX have you considered the fact that you have 5 controllers means likely you cycle through them so each one gets less action. Less play will decrease the chances of any wear and tear, accidents, etc. Most players have 1 or 2 controllers at a time which just increases the rate of handling. There’s so many factors besides that too. Casual vs 6+ hour a day players. Clumsiness is an issue on my end. I’ve got the habit of letting my controller fall off my arm chair . Afraid it’ll land the wrong way someday. 😅
It bothers me when talking about something like the PS Portal or cloud gaming everyone seem to focus only on input latency and image quality, nobody seem to bring up the fact it eats up your internet cap. You know, not everyone has the luxury to have unlimited or lightning fast internet, most people outside of the United States use capped internet with varried download speeds, also unlike RU-vid and Netflix where the video is pre-recorded and is highly compressed streaming games require a constant refresh in high quality.
If you are using a portal its not using your internet connection to transfer data it's your inside wifi no data is wasted for steaming a game from your console. Streaming a game from a server outside of your home costs data. If you are somehow using data why streaming from a console in your home you have been hacked and someone is routing your data through them then back to you to monitor what you are doing.
The PS Portal streams from a PS5 using WIFI and not Internet, but SONY will probably enable PS Premium/ Cloud Streaming later. They even recently acquired iSIZE a company specialized in video and data compresion probably to address data volume
So does streaming TV shows and Movies and nobody brings up that when talking about netflix. This is no different. If your internet can't handle it, don't get it.,
@@PsychologyOK Yes it does get brought up. Data usage is always huge issue when it come to any kind of streaming. Game streaming uses way more data though than netflix/youtube.
A lot of comments about what should have been included... Wireless charging, Oled 4k screen.... It's 200 quid for a reason guys. It's just an accessory. My main and only issue with this is the connection. In the UK the Internet is just trash so I'm struggling with that.
I see all kinds of comments here about it. As for me, the Portal was a great purchase! I have a WIFE, and she doesn't like me playing my video games in my gaming room when she's home. She likes me next to her while she watches TV. And that's why the Switch has been great to me, because I can just sit next to her and play. The Portal has allowed me to do the same and finally put more hours into my PS5 games!!!
I'm still holding out hope that Sony will allow cloud streaming directly to this device. I pre-ordered it and have it, but haven't taken it out of the box yet.
As a long time Sony fan, I'm surprised I NEVER knew the "mascot's" name is Astro. I'm actually surprised that Sony didn't name the last system Playstation Astro what-with the new space race proliferation; Elon and Space X, China and India sending rovers to the moon within the last decade
Personally, I think Sony should've just gone for a PSP that essentially plays the PS4 version of PS5 games. But I understand that could cannibalize the sales of PS5, and given the cost of the PS5, it's unlikely most customers would buy both. So if "Portal" was the way to go, I think they should've made it a Portal all the way. I think these are missing a few features for what it is. It should support a direct wireless connection with the PS5 for the majority of households that don't have perfect WiFi. It would also make more sense if these could remotely power on the Playstation 5 from an off state when connected to any network. Speaking of which, cellular capability should be present. Only working on standard WiFi is pretty limiting. It would also be nice if it had Switch-like capability, where it could output video through a cable or dock if there's a TV available, like at a hotel. A direct connection to a Sony game streaming service would be interesting too; Just giving users the option to run games on their own console remotely or just use a game streaming service from Sony
Played my first game on the portal last night and it's defective. It keeps sticking and freezing then jumping to the screen adjust menu then back to game then jumps to the HDR set up menu. It even does this on the main menu. Have contacted Sony but may just send it back. Not a good start!
There's been lots of people coming out and videos saying that it doesn't support captive portal which for people who don't know is the ability to use Wi-Fi that requires signing in like at a lot of hotels in airports..
I’m a stickler for the rules, even on myself. Years ago, my then girlfriend(now wife) went half on the soon to be released Xbox 360. She reminded me that since it was a Christmas present and I had to wait. I did! As for my Portal, it wouldn’t help me as I am on the road and can play my PS5 or Xbox Series X any time I wish. I am also in a hotel room and the internet really sucks.
Literally made for the dad/mom/room mate gamers that never have access to the one TV in the house and its all good until the internet goes out either intentially or not.
I'm not interested at all at the Playstation Portal, but I was still curious to see if I had overlooked something. I'm still perplexed as to why Sony designed this 🤔
I want to know what games people are playing that they are experiencing no lag or stutter or disconnect. I’m playing Fallout 76, Elden Ring, Remnant 2, Back 4 Blood…and my PS5 is plugged into Lan. My download is 493.4 Mbps and my upload is 14.7 Mbps. I have one other item on wifi and that’s my phone. I am getting a delay that is not only noticeable, but making the games unenjoyable. Is this thing designed for Astro’s Playroom and Among Us? If I can’t successfully play FPS or larger open worlds…how is this worth it? But, Nevermind the lag and delay. Let’s say that is my environment only. The fact that I need proprietary headphones for wireless is sinful. None of Sony’s headsets have felt comfortable on my head and I’m not paying another $200 for their earbuds. The specs are dated too. Sure, it looks clean…but 1080 is behind. The touch feature of the screen also has lag, like many Android devices. The haptics aren’t anything compared to a regular controller. I’m just at a loss on this one.
Can someone explain why i would swap my 60 inch 144 refresh OLED TV for a really basic LCD 8 inch screen, i might as well buy myself a PS3. Honkai on my Lenovo P11 Pro OLED beats this hands down and it's cheaper than the current price of this, another case of Sony creating a false demand by under stocking at launch. By the time they restock the day one buyers will snap them up as they've realised they've got drift and you can't replace the sticks so need a new Portal.
It wasn't long ago that people were shitting on Xbox for collaborating with the gcloud. But now PlayStation has pretty the same product but it's glorified somehow
Me personally I like these kind of devices. If I Had A PS5 I would probably get one too. But since I already have a gcloud, I would just stick to this because between the 2 . The Gcloud is better.
I’m loving mine.. haven’t put it down since I got it.. I feel like this is some type of trial handheld device that Sony pushed out just to test the waters if there’s any demand for another portable PlayStation console I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony later on will actually give us a real portable PlayStation depending how good this launch does throughout the next 2-3 yrs.. let’s see overall I’m still happy with this purchase no issues on my side 👍🏻👍🏻
i say it's just a sony android tablet with the ps5 controller slap together. beside it's just a ps remote play device to stream your ps4 or 5 - unless sony just restrict to ps5 only. for me - ps remote play on the ps4 and 5 have very noticeable video and input lag, which makes it unplayable on the device that's doing the streaming.
200 dollars for what amounts to a WiiU controller is ridiculous. Who is this for? What is the primary use case? What problem does this solve that a backbone (that costs a fraction of the price if you get one on sale) doesn't?
Man I’ve been playing my vita lately and I’m pretty disappointed that Sony did not put charging contact pins like the 3DS And now they missed the chance again Even The Wii U game pad can be charged on a dock
@@subtegral I think the point was that it doesn't have a "no hassle" connector to charge, just a standard USB-C port (in an awkward spot). The Vita dock was just a Vita connector in a plastic housing to hold it up, similar to Switch's dock. Simply using it would wear out the connectors over time. 3DS and Wii U pad had exposed charging contacts so it just has to sit on top of a matching charging port (usually on a dock).
@@Appl_Jax I don't think the Vita 1000 charging dock wears out the USB connectors over time. I think owner abuse wears out the connectors over time. There was also a charging dock for the Vita 2000. It was small, black, and oval. I tried looking it up online a few years ago and it's almost like it never existed. I know it existed because I once had a 2000 model and the dock for it. Now I have a trusty crystal white Japan model 1000 that I installed a new battery into. I also rebuilt a sapphire blue Japan model a few years ago and sold it. TMI?
@@ToxMod Most people agree that PS Portal is a E-Waste tier consumer product. It's reparability is 0 and achieves nothing you can't do with a Long 10m HDMI cable and a cheap $100 monitor
@@ToxMod Premature of what?! We all have plenty of specs\information and use case scenarios to make any informed judgment and opinion. You might not like it but anyone is entitle of it's own.
It would have been cool for an added bonus if it played digital ps classics, psp, and vita games natively giving it some form of use above cheaper competitor options that already do remote play, not really seeing the hook here besides "official branded in-house product"
It's an accessory not a new handheld console. If the PS5 doesn't natively have any of those you mentioned then what makes you think the Portal will have it? 😂
What competitors? 😂 Backbone is 100 dollars but worth 25 and an uncomfortable pos for what it's worth. This things an accessory it's not trying to compete in the saturated standalone handheld market which steam and Nintendo dominates. It's a niche like the ps headset and vr stuff. This is aiming at millennials and budding parents like me. im enjoying the heck out of it.
LMAO He just rambles on for 15-20 mins a video, most of the time he doesn't even have any visual stimuli. It's just him standing there. This man is a foot.
This thing would’ve honestly been more useful during the covid days when you’re just stuck in your room and if your ps5 is in the entertainment center just get your portal and play your ps5 while you’re stuck in your room
It's winter. Most people are at home. And if you work for a living, you probably want to spend the few hours you have each night sitting back or laying from the comfort of bed.
@@gamerstimes127certainly not cheaper at all if you wanted a monitor with hdmi 2.1 and vrr since the PS5 requires it. Portal is a much better solution. This thing exists for families that have gamers and non gamers competing for the tv
The sticks are very easy to replace so probably not. We’re likely to see a ton of returned systems from people who didn’t realize you needed a PS5 though
I believe that the SG4150P Is actually a downclocked SM4250AA aka snapdragon 460 (Nearly Identical to the 662 In every way). I wouldn't be surprised if QUALCOMM gave Sony a custom model number if they made a slight change or just binned version of the 460.
"So I got the Ark of the Covenant from some warehouse. I decided to open it up, see what's inside and give you guys my thoughts." -Spawn Wave (if he ever gets the opportunity)
I'm loving mine. Playing Astro again along with Spider-Man 2 and Red Dead Redemption. As a gamer and a dad, this gives me the freedom to game how I want. And I can escape to the shitter and play without mounting a TV in the bathroom.
I returned mine. I have 600mbps internet with a mesh system and the lag was real. I even tried setting up a static ip for my ps5 . When it worked well it was great but it was a 50/50 shot that the lag was there.
Steam deck and rog ally both can do remote play. I tried the ally. Windows on a 7in display sucks . I sold my steam deck for it and retired it. I may grab the oled deck. It can remote play my pc and ps5
Maybe one day Sony will get their PS3 backwards compatibility in a better state and you can play the Orange Box for PS3 on their newest console, and play Portal.
@@asdfdc1946 The Wii U seemed to be an attempt to adapt the DS style of gameplay to a home console. But that idea was flawed from the start because the DS screens were attached to each other so they would always be in view for the player. I don't think anyone plays their home console with their controller in view all the time. Even developers didn't seem to know what to do with the Wii U since most games just used the gamepad for menus and maps. It didn't exactly justify the gamepad.
@@OtavioFesoares Not really. Like I said in my comment, the main gimmick of the Wii U was second screen features. The Switch follows more of something like the Sega Nomad or the Gameboy player or the PSP with video out cables.
Doesn't interest me, but might get one if it goes on clearance. I've heard it runs on Android so it shouldn't be too hard for hackers and homebrewers to crack it open. Despite the general negativity, there does seem to be a market for this device. I've seem comments from people who bought it and have a use for it and enjoy it. I think the people constantly ragging on it should just accept it isn't for them and move on instead of complaining about it. You don't like it, fine. Go find something you do like and talk about that. Why waste your time talking about something you don't like?
I added an antennas to mine, and it fixed a lot of the problems. I don’t know what PlayStation was thinking, having not very much signal on this thing and now I can walk between a wall of refrigerator and everything else and it does not get cut off anymore. I do not lose any more Internet signal or anything, it works so much better now I am happy I fix the problem myself I’m adding this part this is supposed to be a dedicated remote play device. It should work better than any other remote play devices or any remote play on your phone or any other devices Sony literally said it’s a dedicated device and it’s going to be working better on remote than other devices which is all untrue. It works way worse that’s just the sad fact they need to majorly fix this problem.
Shouldn’t have to do that, there’s handhelds that can play 35 years worth of games that have flawless Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and touchscreen out of the box for half the price. Sony should do better, no doubt within a year they announce a refresh with slight upgrades.
@@XRKGX especially when the psp and vita slap, they have the potential to really step into the market and they fumbled it, especially making it a ps5 companion. Most people don’t even have a ps5 still.
You are in the middle of a live service game, and you cannot pause, and have to take a Sh!t. Look no further, PlayStation got your back. For only $199.99, you'll never get wasted or booted from your game again. PlayStation Portal. Link it to your PS5 and go blow your ass out from those energy drinks and keep playing. LMAO
If they provided a brick they would also have to provide a longer cable. Otherwise what is the point of giving us a power brick when you can charge it with your ps5. Although this is an interesting piece of equipment I wish people would stop tip toeing around what it actually is. Stupid. If you have a ps5 you probably have a TV or monitor. In a world of games that aren't as good as they use to be, with less coop multiplayer and less great single player experiences this thing is worthless. Imagine you have a ps5 and have to choose between this and a switch for a similar price point, why would you not just get a switch? You get a gaming console with a fantastic catalog of games. Now if you are going to play ps5 online with this thing you are going to experience latency issues. This could be cool maybe if you want to take it on a trip and play ps5 from home without having to bring it with you. It would be great if these game developers could make a decent game instead of rehashing old material. It's almost like video games are entering that movie Era where they just rebooted series and made them worse repeatedly. It's like they started targeting my older brother to make video games for and not the gamers. My brother didn't play video games up until xbox 360 because the graphics. He maybe played God of war. Shove ur graphics up your a** and give us a stinking video game for christ sake.
Why is everyone so bitter about a device? I like mine because I’m a new dad and I can game where my child is sleeping, or in bed at the end of the night. Everything isn’t for everyone and that’s okay. No need for the tears and tantrums. Do I wish it had more capabilities, absolutely! But I was using an iPad and my single controller and pairing it every time. Now I have one singular dedicated device to charge. My controller stays downstairs with my PS5 and I’m all good.
I have to give my opinion. I have a portal and I tried it out for the first time at a friend's house. It is pretty dam cool. If you have good Internet and a PS5.... It works as good as anyone would hope. It does exactly wat it is made for. And it's pretty awesome. It does have a few negative features but I will say.. there is a reason why Sony chose these limitations. There is logic behind it. But I'm not here for that. The positive outweigh the negative. I like this thing and I can't wait to use it at my friends' houses. It is a great feeling playing PS5 games on the go. Good job.
I get that it would limit its portability - one of its major selling points - but I don't get why Sony didn't offer the ability to plug the portal into the PS5 and use it like a monitor/screen directly rather than streamed. Would make it more appealing to people with poorer wi-fi connections. Just sell it with a 2-3m long cable.
This would of sold me on it. I have a 300Mbps connection and remote play still hiccups for me. This device would make me mad I think just like my tablet using remote play.
@@edgaryzen4925 when it works it's fine. But I get alot of poor connection notifications. I was hoping the portal would of connected different. Maybe more like how the Wii U. That thing worked great as long as you were 20 feet from the console.
This just sounds like a worse experience than the Wii U, which came out 10 years ago as the gamepad managed to have very low latency for it's video feed since it connected directly to the console. This on the other hand doesn't seem to have that feature,, nor does it do anything a cheap phone and addon controller can't do. It also gets beaten by devices like the Ayn Odin which is something that is around the same price that can also do game streaming, and not just from PS5 either. Other devices that beat it are the Switch since that can play games natively, can play a library of older games, and can be hacked to do much more, and the Steam Deck which can play PC games natively alongside even more older games. And you can of course do game streaming to it. Hell, even that overpriced Logitech handheld is a better choice since it can do a little bit more. The portal on the other hand can't even connect to many wifi networks you would find outside off the home, like at a hotel. And it's dependent entirely on your home having a good wifi network set up as well as fast enough internet where your home is and where you are at (if away from home). There's a good chance you would end up needing to tether your phone's connection to use it, and a lot of people have much stricter limits for their data on mobile than they do at home.
Ps portal is awesome! I used to stream games from 1 room away! It’s so convenient! I don’t need to move out of the kitchen away from the refrigerator anymore!
Here's what they didn't tell you: they weren't going to do literally anything to stop scalpers from depleting stock before the holidays. I don't care because I have a Steam Deck and can just be patient, but couldn't they more than absolutely nothing to make sure people can get one?
I got one. I absolutely love the thing. I had 1 disconnect during the roughly 15 hrs. I’ve had it connected to the console for. And it reconnected in about 5 seconds. No issues on Wi-Fi with frame rate or blurry noisy graphics. Even with 3 other family member streaming RU-vid I have had no hiccups yet over Wi-Fi. The ps5 IS NOT hard wired into my Starlink router.
Well you didn't tell the whole story, like how fast your internet is. I'm still on copper wire, the upload speed is really mediocre (30mbps), if I have multiple people streaming videos at the same time I may have very blurry video on the PSP.
I want one for remote play using an iPhone hotspot. How does it handle that? Won’t be playing any multiplayer games, just want one for when it’s slow at work
I don't think you'd see a bluetooth chip on there even if it was supported, it's likely embedded in the SoC, the smoking gun would be a 2.4 ghz antenna printed on the PCB Also, what happens if you connect it to a PC? the SG4150P has a good wealth of known vulnerabilities, hopefully it will be jailbroken soon!
The DualSense Controller chip supports BT already doesn't it? That's how it connects to the PS5? So this technically should have it, just software locked
@@ru2225 yep, but that's in a different role (looking at motherboard pics though it looks like the antenna is connected to the SIE branded microcontroller)
If it's a standard Snapdragon 662 SoC then it should have a BT controller as part of the package, but it is software locked, possibly on such a low system level (hard coded to the bootloader) that it cannot be soft modded to enable it back.
@@elimalinsky7069 even if it's not locked, it still needs an antenna on the pcb connected to the radio on the SoC. If the antenna is not there there's nothing you can do.
It would’ve been much better if they implemented a proprietary wifi solution similar to airdrop instead of remote play, to cut down latency and improve image quality - current remote play just aint it
Love it. Works great on the 5G hotspot network through my phone. I go out of town for my company and taking my PS5 with me was a hassle. Now I don't have to. ❤
Because in a world where people still don't have acess to high speed internet its useless. Waste of time and money. Could have been another psp vita type thing but whatever.
I bought one of these because I have real problems playing on a TV screen with my eyesight being the way it is and so far it's been great for me, it's made my games much much accessible. I'm getting sick of people saying 'It's a waste of time, bro' and 'Just use your phone and a Backbone, bro' and 'Just get a Steam Deck, bro' and other such comments, usually with 'bro' in them 🙄 If you don't want one, fine..just don't get one and ignore it. Not everything has to be made to cater to you, and sorry it's upset you so much that you feel the need to rage in every comment section about it to seem 'cool'. But do you also hate other controllers that people with disabilities use that are of no use to you, but amazingly helpful to them? And that's not to mention all the other people who find it useful if they have kids or family using the TV a lot and don't want to just 'get another TV, bro' either. I get that people are despatste for another 'proper' Sony handheld but this was never, ever promised as one if you actually followed the news about it. But there's still plenty of us who find stuff like this handy to have.
I'd like to think that the people who make those comments aren't referring to people in your use-case scenario. It's just that the device seems a little unnecessary when I can already do the same thing on my phone or tablet that I already have.
I have a counter argument without using "bro" in it. While certainly there is a percentage of people that might find it useful, busy families, people such as yourself etc. The discourse of people that have positive views of this product is overestimating the market for this, acting as if it is going to have the same success as a handheld console, the ps5 will have 50 million consoles in the market by early next year, this device will mainly sell in US and Canada, so reduce that amount by a lot. Now take less than 5% of that amount. I will really be surprised if it manages to sell 2 million worldwide due to how niche it is. It's great that it has a market but It's important that we do not pretend it has the same appeal as a handheld.
But bro! Why not just get your eyes fixed bro! Surely that’s cheaper and easier and less painful than this bro! Seriously bro! Brody bro brosephstein bro!
The fact that it doesn’t have a web browser to access hotel WiFi is a major flaw, how are you supposed to take this portability if you can’t access most free WiFi, and no I’m not going to hot spot it for an hour
@@michaelmyersplays4992Sounds like you don’t travel much or you’d know that cell service isn’t perfect is every city and can depend on your network provider too.
Yesterday I played the Portal most of the day. Late in the evening we had a WiFi outage but my portal continued to play and never disconnected. I even switched games just to see what would happen and it stayed connected the whole time. I don’t know how this happened or worked but it did.
Because WiFi and Internet are 2 separate things. You have a router that has a wifi connection. The router recieves "the internet" and sends it thru it's wifi signal. If there is no Internet you can still access your wifi network no problem. It would have been different if you were playing over the internet but you were playing over your network.
If I had a PS5 and this portal, I would like to put it to the ultimate stress test. I live in an apartment and I have nephews come over using wifi, so would be interesting to see how it will play with my wifi setup.
Uhh.. Sounds like you're testing your network more than the portal. If your network can't handle that traffic then split the routing to a separate unit and get a better wifi beaming device like unifier or something 😂
