What Stormgate does better than StarCraft 2 

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What I"m hearing is that, partly, with tabs and whatnot, they've returned to the Command and Conquer style base/unit production: On giant tab for buildings (with hotkey) and one giant tab for units (with hotkeys). Not doing a 'new' thing but an older alternative, that still works.

Haha when Starcraft came out I thought it was extremely easy to control and user friendly...........because I was used to Warcraft 2.

Why the hell we have a hotkey for all warpgates but no hotkey for all barracks in sc2? Is it some kind of balance feature?)

Hey i am WC3 and little bit of AOE and CnC enjoyer since back in the old days played as kid, i like the effort of new RTS game, I am just used to highly visible healthbars and not that big of a army to manage and also having a HERO with items and lvling up that is what is missing for me.

I wouldn’t give stormgate too much credit for the global hot key system. It’s definitely used by other I know AOE4 uses it. I’m very glad other rts are adapting to it

Thanks for the video!

Stormgate feels good to play, but boring to watch. Starcraft 2 feels good to watch, but annoying to play. That's my takeaways from both games. The faster paced nature of SC2 makes high level games extremely fun to watch, especially in TvZ where you could see actions happening constantly across multiple points in the map. In Stormgate it's not unusual for fights to last for a while before you can even tell who's having the advantage, and because we don't have game winning units that can singlehandedly win a fight like Corruptors or Banelings, but that also means you don't feel as much tension during the fight. Marine spltting a Corruptor shot or sniping Banelings before they hit is intense to watch, while a huge hit that wipes out a bunch of units is usually a pretty hyped up moment

The maps are any RTS' strength and weakness. The moment I see mapmakers stretching impassable terrain to discourage unit movement, "perch" areas just for Overlords to scout, it means the map is already favoring one race over the other. When maps make it so that liberators can't be used effectively, siege tanks can't fire over cliffs, lots of open spaces for easy engagement, human bias has a very heavy hand on dictating the outcome of games.

On the length of battles, does anyone feel that Stormgate is somewhere between WC3 and SC2?

Playing sc2, I could get to diamond with good macro, but my micro was always what let me down. I just could never get past switching micro managing different units, no matter how hard I practiced

As much I wan to like storm gate. I really don't like the style and texture of it. It's like Sc2 back in alpha. Looks so rubber. Even wc3 looks better than this.

Good video.

It’s funny to me to hear criticism of Brood War’s pathfinding. Brood War was a HUGE improvement over Warcraft 2. HUGE. Sure, games improve over time, but I was very happy with BW pathfinding.

reason 1: protoss doesn't exist in this game, reason 2: protoss doesn't exist in this game, reason 3: protoss doesn't exist in this game

I agree on the unit production part, its really an innovative way to pull in new players who arent used to RTS. I think its very smooth with Stormgate, that all units are under 1 tab and the more structures you build that create units, are all automaticly assigned into that unit tab. The first time i played it, i noticed it and i was blown away with it. But i also think the game is very smooth and yes, its a bit slower then SC 2 but not very much i would argue and i think its right in the sweetspot between Warcraft 3 and SC 2 in terms of game speed. I also agree that the new additions they added to maps, certainly allows more room for counterplay and surprise attacks. I am honestly really amazed what they have done the past year with Stormgate, the game is in a really good state and sure their are a lot of things to be improved. But so far i find it a very promising game.

When's it come out?

I remember meeting a guy called basset on the stormgate ladder was that you?

Had me until I saw that the characters looks just like characters from Shrek.

Can't trust anything you say after saying that turtling is a problem in SC2 but not in SG when 90% of late game is just deathball vs deathball

nice game

@2:10 aka c&c3 style macro

RTSs need to get their shit straight for some reason some ppl think micro (stutterstepping/kiting) is cool because its so mechanically demanding and their mothers and sisters cant do it but usually ppl who play strategy games want to play them (u guessed it) by addressing them strategically (or at least tactically), the micro/reaction speed part should be of little importance

My personal thoughts on the game are very similar to yours. Stormgate had nailed it as to how the game feels and plays out, to me üt feels like the gsme just needs to be fleshed out.

is that you, Basset?

C&C4 "one step in the wrong direction" That step was throwing away the whole game and making some completely unrecognisable rubbish, so it was a pretty big step

I agree that Stormgate did a great job with hotkeys, especially in using grid style hotkeys while still keeping attack move on A. Great summary, definitely looking forward to more from Stormgate!

I feel like they played it too safe and i don't find anything new or exciting that makes me want to try it.

for now sc2 is a lot better, a lot more fun to play and watch. a lot more action and very different action. Sg for now is not better, not even close.

I don't see myself playing Stormgate... as you said in the LATE GAME in SC2 sometimes the players don't want to risk their armies, making it a stale game, but in Stormgate the damage is not huge in a second so the battles develop better, making it a slower game from the start, which could lead to people getting bored as well. I hope the game has an incredible good and memorable campaign, I barely remembered SC1 when played SC2 but the first thing I did was the Campaign and the story hooked me and made me love the Starcarft World, which later translated in me playing ladder for years. Also there is an incredibly interesting video about RTS, I don't know if you watched it but you should ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XehNK7UpZsc.html

Art of war has this short build system. And it is mobile game 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I don't see how this game will be successful with only 2 playable race .

StarCraft 1 and 2 always stood out in the RTS landscape for one thing above all others: extremely conservative design. StormGate is looking a lot like an SC3 would have. Sadly it doesn't look like it's going to do much to solve the issue of the game being too hard for most people to control. SC turned being hard to control into a virtue, but that isn't going to cut it in the current gaming landscape any more.

I cant see the game qualities while the units design still so bad.

Stormgate is amazing so far BUT the only rts i think has the potential to overcome sc2 by far is zero space. Game is in alpha 2 and is S I C K ! Unit pathing unit variety strategic depth animations combat system.

Starcraft is the best 👌 👍 😍 🥰 ☺️ 💖 and the boys are very excited about it 😀 😄 😊 🙌 ❤️ 😁 😀 😄 😊

my opinion ? doa rip

I forced myself to play 10 games and gave up. it's such a miserable game, really overhyped. Extremely boring units, and what a cluster of balls, the time to kill really makes it even worse and highlighting just how much of a slog the engagements are.

the huge campaign and massive lore universe they have planned is way better!

nice content, but feels to me this is more of the perspective of a casual player and not a esports player. Saying that maps dont really matter that much in sc2 can only come from someone who has not played at a higher level as it is so crucial of every part of the game.

Im excited about stormgate and really feel they can iron out the downsides of the game

StormGate indeed made a lot of cool features, but for me this game is boring. It's OK to play, but so boring to watch. Also the artstyle is awful, for me it looks like a mobile game. Well, I had a lot of expectations, I wanted SG to be SC2 successor, unfortunately it doesn't look like it. I came back play SC2, because I think it's still going to be the biggest RTS in the world in terms of player base and esports. Anyway, I wish good luck to SG.

Some real losers in the comments. Ironically, they are proving the exact premise of this video. There are some real, actual losers in RTS and other genres that aren't even actually good, just tunnel-visioned and pretentious.

This is probably the best advertisement for stormgate i have seen. I must say i was a bit put off it, but nice to know what's actually better rather than just look and see weird uncanny valley sc2 unit ripoffs.

They're using A.I.

Age 2 is the best RTS ever created. Except the graphics.

Nothing special, other than being a nice Live Streaming game propaganda.

Stormgate is dogshit and will NEVER take off xD it looks sooooo bad. You can't really compare it with a masterpiece such as SC2

Answer: Nothing and sc2 is a very old game. What a shame.

if all these macro advantages make you happy then you are a noob...this game friendly mechanics make the game so much easier and noob friendly...hate every word you said in this video.

if sc2 is the best game that has ever been created for you...maybe I wont listen the rest of the video