I think the Armorer didn’t intentionally have Bo Katan as a permanent member of the Children of the Watch but tested her to see if she was able to adapt and understand the perspective of different tribes within Mandalorian society which is important in uniting the tribes.
Maybe not even a test so much as a right place right time thing. The Armorer knows very well who Bo Katan is, and her history. Maybe seeing how Bo Katan has grown as a person and as a mandalorian made the Armorer want to make the decision with Bo that she made. I do not feel like it was a pre-planned meditated anything(Of course if we break the 4th wall it was all planned but you know what I mean XD).
She may of wanted her to live some time as a member to gain a better understanding of their culture and beliefs. It is clear she did gain some understanding of it as she does show them allot more respect than she had in the past season and previous episodes. I do not believe she says "This is the war" to anyone within the covert except on the ship in transit after leaving Mandalore in which only Din and Grogu are present.
if feel like paz vizla looking back at din when the armorer said bo kotan should be the one to unite all the clans was him disagreeing with her. I think members in the clan will want din to lead them.
My take on this as well 💯 Also, Bo was kinda mischievously looking (or smirking) at Paz and Din. Or was she just uncomfortable walking around without her helmet? She had a kinda triumphant look in her eyes. And besides, she didn't tell Din about the Mythosaur, only the Armorer. I get it that Bo most probably didn't believe it was real. But hey, if I'd save an ally and friend ffing 3 times, I'd certainly put it on the table to discuss.
I just love that it was not only a big deal when he took his helmet off in season 2, but they also didn't just explain it away and have his suddenly put it back on. They made an entire quest for him to redeem himself.
1:08 I think the helmet removal Din was referencing was in Season 2. Not just Grogu, but Mayfield. Mayfield agreed to keep it a secret, but that's not how Din operates. He was compelled to be honest about removing his helmet in front of both Mayfield and Grogu.
One note: It's always been noted throughout history that those who do not wish to lead, make the best leaders. It's mentioned in books and movies always. I think there's gonna be a few more surprises coming.
EXACT SAME Could Be Said About Various Presidents! Those Who WANTED POWER Were Terrible Leaders... But Those Who NEVER Wanted It Were Shunned By Alphabet Agencies & Quietly Silenced.
I strongly disagree that Din isn't a great leader. Sometimes I doubt that people actually watch the show. But to make it short. Din was able to form the most unlikely alliances to achieve common goal, because he earned the trust and loyalty, if Bo-Katan was a natural leader she wouldn't end up alone even without the Darksabre. She was banking way too much on the Darksabre and authority it gives and this is why she failed. She is experienced war-veteran, and she knows her tactics, but she cannot inspire loyalty (maybe now she could), we even saw in S2 finale, how she instigated fight with Boba Fett that escalated very quickly. Din made all people cooparate, and it was he who recruited Bo and Koska, not the other way around. And he was able to offer something they'd have interest in. So yes, I say Din Djarin will be the Mand'alor. And you'll find out soon enough.
What you described doesn't make Din a great leader, that just makes him a great cornerstone. I don't remember a single time where he has displayed any key combat leadership or even organizational leadership skills.
Personally for me din and no should just marry. Bo got the political and responsibility side down but not the morality or respect part. Din got the morality and respect but not the political or responsibility part. Both are still learning and are stronger in what the other lacks and that what makes them a great power couple. Plus it would be marrying traditional with new
@@Valorhammer S1 Asylum, where he and Cara prepared the pleb for combat. S2 the Marshal- where he made a plan for tusken raiders and people of Mos Pelgo on how to take down the krayt dragon. So here is that. As for Bo Katan - this is jst a fact that she ended up alone, the qualities she possesed were not good enough. If she was a natural leader people would support her with or without the sword.
I have loved these last couple of episodes. They've really touched me from the standpoint of comraderie, family and the growth they've all been experiencing.
At last! A rational and well grounded take on this episode and the dichotomy between the Armorer and Bo Katan. So many keep seeing ulterior motives and secret agendas that are nearly absurd that it's nice to hear someone who gets (what I believe) is going on with them, and with the Mandalorians as a whole.
I think the armorer had this plan all along. She's already proven to be very calculating. I think she got Bo to live as a child of the watch so that there's an understanding of the watch. So that Bo doesn't look at them the same way she did in season 2. I think she wants Bo to go out and find the other clans to bring them together not lead them. And since this whole season has been playing very closely to the Book of Exodus I think Bo is playing the role of Moses. She is going to lead her people to the promised land.
@@live-n-die4203 literally the entire Saga. For example, the Whils talk about the son of suns. Jesus was the king of kings. Virgin birth, Saul’s massacre of the priests is mirrored by Anakin killing the Jedi. Luke’s destruction of the Death Star mirrors David’s taking out Goliath with a well-aimed slingshot. The hero in both stories turns down the use of conventional weapons to rely on spiritual intuition to slay a giant. It is accomplished using a well-placed shot to its one weak point.
I think that they're gonna go full trope and make Bo the one who wants to lead, but ultimately isn't cut out for it, and Din is the one who doesn't want anything to do with leading, but he ends up being the best for the role. And I, for one, am very here for it. Especially after this last episode. It wasn't Bo who convinced them they must emerge from hiding to go help Navarro, it was Din (with Paz Vizla backing him up). He's the one who wields the Darksaber, he was the first Mandalorian to make the pilgrimage back to Mandalore and prove that it wasn't "cursed". Him still struggling with the Darksaber is just a reflection of his inner doubts, but I think for the rest of the season and going forward we're going to see Din thrust into leadership in one way or another, and watch him overcome those fears and self-doubt to become the leader the Mandalorians needed, rather than the one they expected.
I think this is just as much a journey for Bo-Katan, in that she's going to give up on the leading part and let Din do it, whether he wants to or not. Her seeing the Mythaosaur literally reignited her faith in the creed and customs of the Mandalorians. I think she's going to understand that leading isn't as important as reuniting the Mandalorians as a whole. That's my take anyway.
@@shawndashno6022 I agree with you 100%. The major theme for this season seems to be letting go of the past and finding a new way forward to survive, or else be destroyed. I think for Bo, that's gonna be letting go of that ambition to rule.
To be clear, the armorer never said that Bo Katan would lead, only that she would unite them. Now, it's certainly implied she would I'll give you that, but since it wasn't explicitly stated I'm not totally convinced until either I get a bit more context, or until I see it happen. Personally though, I think Bo & Din will rule together. Here's how I see things playing out.... I imagine Bo when she's trying to unite the clans will initially try and do so by telling them she saw the mythosaur, but no one will believe her, hell Din's own tribe almost turned him away and would have done so if he hadn't brought proof... she has none. Additionally, I think that unfortunately she's going to find out that a good majority of the other mandalorian's (besides the night owls) won't be willing to so easily forgive her for the past, and/or won't acknowledge her without the darksaber - and even if it came into her possession, I think it'll be a fool me once shame on you fool me twice... type of mentality she's up against. So, I think what she'll do is instead of trying to unite everyone behind her, is instead she'll manage to have them fall in behind Din. She can tell them how he beat Moff Gideon avenging the night of a thousand tears and reclaimed the darksaber, went back home to their planet and dispelled the myth of it being cursed and bathed in the waters, and is currently raising a foundling that will inherit the legacy of the one who created the darksaber. I think that is what will unite them, and just imagine Din's, um, "face" (body language) when she turns back up and tells him he's the new Mandalore haha... anyway, and if all that above isn't enough to bring her people together behind Mando, she can just tell them he's able to offer them lands on an independent planet and access to an Armorer. That last one in particular should do the trick. Din will clearly have no idea how to lead so I think he'll have Bo as his right hand, or he'll take her in hand which is a ship I'd love to see.
Exactly what I've been saying!!! context: me my dad step brother and littler sister as well as step mom watch this show and we all have our theories my dad thinks Bo is up to something my step brother and step mom think I'm right but I guess will have to see.
It's something we all have known. The Madolorians are extremely dangerous while together as one. In fighting has always been their downfall. Just when they make progress in every story we have ever heard.... Boom someone betrayals someone and groups go their separate ways with whatever they won lost again. I think that's something Revan knew and many Jedi and Sith have known. Keep them fighting each other or they will conquer the Galaxy
Thank you for actually watching, listening, and paying attention to each episode. I've seen several breakdowns of this episode from very well established channels and wondered if the people even watched the episode or did they have on as background noise and claimed they "watched" it. I will say, the Armorer didn't ignore Bo when she mentioned she saw the Mythasaur, she merely didn't react. Bo has been paying attention when the Armorer speaks to and with her. The Armorer noticed and has realized there is a reason the Mythasaur showed itself to Bo. Since it did, Bo went from having giving up on her quest and swung full circle to refinding her faith. The Mandalorians' situation has improved. The Armorer has put 2 and 2 together, which is more than I can say for some "expert" content creators.
I think part of what changed things, was Bo asking the armorer if something was considered appropriate, showing a willingness to learn, and to compromise for the sake of unity
Yes ... you are the first analyst with the correct perspective on the events !!! I heard one who basically did not even mention the mythosaur in their analysis !!!
I think Din is a great right hand man. Hes competent in his own right, and hes pretty darn knowledgeable. I think Bo is a good leader just because of her upbringing and her path in life so far have been filled with adversity. The kind a leader needs to go through before they become a leader. I think the armorer can see this and wished for a return of the Mandalorians. So using the opportunity created by Din to set up a staging ground, and Bo as a link to larger forces, the armorer has set in motion some pretty interesting things.
Bo and Din make a hell of a team. With Bo's level head and leadership abilities along with her ability to wield the dark sabre so effectively and Din's Commitment to the creed and the way he carries himself and always takes the honorable path. The 2 of them could restore Mandalore and lead it to a prosperous future.
Din was defeated by spider insect creature. Din lost the dark saber. Bokatan picked up the dark saber and defeated the spider insect creature. Thus saving Dins life for the first time in that one episode. Bokatan then saved Din from drowning. She saw the Mithasaur. I think the dark saber is hers to wield in which it is easy for her to wield as Din cannot effectively use it almost like the dark saber doesn't want Din to use it.
I don’t think it’s simply defeating someone. Din wasn’t outright challenged. It wasn’t a battle. He walked into a trap. Moff Gideon was different, it was a one on one duel for the life of the child. He defeated moff for grogu, the dark saber was a consolation prize. Din fell into an ambush. To properly claim it she’d have to challenge him like we’ve seen before
Plus last time Bo-Katan got a chance to use the dark saber she became famous for how horrible of a leader she was....seriously why does she think getting the saber back a second time will make things better?
Technically, Din lost the dark saber in combat to that cyborg / walking eye in the mines of mangalore. Then Bo wins the saber in combat back by killing the cyborg and saving Din. An argument could be made that it was hers and Din is not the rightful owner anymore.
@@king_dot people who make these arguments are taking things out of context. if you were in a warrior society and you gained leadership by way of combat with no rules it would be utter chaos. obviously what the mandalorians mean by way of combat is an honorable 1v1 duel.
@@aa-kz7hc Fair if you consider way of combat as a honorable 1v1 duel then wouldn’t Ashoka have the claim since she defeated maul 1v1, if that doesn’t count for the honorable part then I guess it would be Obi Wan’s due to his duel with Maul at the end of rebels since that was pretty honorable, then if you want to continue it Vader’s due to his duel with Obi Wan, then Luke’s due to him defeating Vader in the duel right before Palpatine got thrown into the Death Star.
@@king_dot neither ahsoka or obi wan wanted to rule mandalore nor did they have it in their possession so guess at that point it defaults to whatever mandalorian gets it and can keep it.
Bo and Din are better Together than they are bye themselves. They can Lead they’re People together as the greatest Leadership Couple in Mandalorian History.
The first Mandalorian studied with the Jedi but left. The new Mandalorian is Grogu, he will use the dark sabre better than Bo Katan and he put the Rancor to sleep implying he could tame the mythasour. Imagine Grogu ruling Mandalore for 800+ years.
I still think Grogu will befriend and ride the Mythosaur, and will somehow weild the Darksaber. _The Mandalorian_ the show is about is Grogu. He'll then be able to lead the Mandalorians for centuries just as Yoda led the Jedi for centuries.
Idk. Starting to think the name of the show is a play on words. Not referencing one mandalorian but the entire clan of them. We’re seeing all kinds of them. Born Royalty, foundling born on Concordia. Foundling from nobody knows where but is a Jedi, then a whole clan of The Children
I think that the intentions and goals of the armorer remains to be seen. While she could very well be preparing Bo Katan for the role of leadership for all of Mandalor, she could be planning something else. 1) She could have come to understand that there can be different peoples of Mandalor. Those who have been born into or indoctrinated into a clan has just much right to call themselves a Mandalorian. 2) She understands that if Mandalorians do not rally together, they will die off. And Bo Katan having been raised on Mandalor stands a better chance of rallying the clans back to the planet. Especially better than a child of The Watch. But whether she leads them afterwards remains unclear.
I still think Din will be the leader as the best leaders are often the ones who didn't want the job in the first place and yet the do a good job once they're in that role. This isn't true for every person but Din has shown his confidence and ability to get the job done. Bo Katan is starting to become better than who she was in the shows and there is no doubt that she is a great tactician and leader but I think it's still gonna be Din who tames the Mythosaur and rules Mandalore alongside Bo Katan and the Armorer
I think a lot of foreshadowing happened for the mythosaur was in season 1 pilot, when Din met the craftsman. When he was forced to learn to tame and ride a blurrgg, the craftsman used to stories of Mandalorians riding mythosaurs to inspire Din. Grogu used the force for beast taming as well in the next episode. It wouldn't be a stretch that Din and Grogu will ride the mythosaur on their own. Grogu is showing leadership skills as well by stopping clan fights. Whoever they choose to focus on.
Your right for mandalor for the mandalorian people thank you for this awesome video it’s time for the mandalorians to take back there world as a unified united mandalorian people. This is definitely The Way…,,,
The best leaders are those who don’t want it… because they won’t abuse the power given to them…those who want to lead or go out of their way to lead should not be given the chance
Bo Katan has definitely proven herself. Not only did she lead the rescue for the foundling and overperform there by also bringing back the hatchlings that may become useful for the Mandalorians in the future but she led the attack against the pirates like she was born for it. She comes from Mandalorian royalty, is a born leader and now the Armourer believes her that she has seen the Mythosaur which must be a sign for someone who believes so much in their old customs and culture. I think that the tipping point is when Bo showed that she could also respect and even adopt the customs of others, which insures that if she were to unite and lead all the clans the Children of the Watch would be able to continue their goal of reestablishing the old religion of Mandalore. It also shows just how much of a tactician the Armourer is. A lot of the greatest Mandalorians aren't just good warriors but are very intelligent strategists as well. Whoever this Armourer is, I believe that she is a strong and capable leader for the watch. It's not that they are lacking a strong leader, but the Armourer believes in forging strong Mandalorians through trials which is why she sits back a lot of the time. She wants to forge other Mandalorians into the strongest warriors and leaders so she doesn't step up unless she has to.
The reason why Din couldn’t wield the black Sabre properly is because he was fighting against the blade instead of with it. The more you fight against it the heavier it becomes.
Cooperation and peace treaty between the Sand People and the people of Mos Pelgo, check Getting sworn enemies to help their foes, check, on more than one occasion, Din showed his political leadership abilities successfully too . Bo Karan has only ever wanted power because she believes it is her birthright...
Throughout the mandalorian it is mando who brought people together, even if by accident. Even Bo Katan herself seemed inspired by him, and the fact that he dosen't want the leadership and just wants to take care of those he cares about is why he should be the leader.
…..It was used as a weapon. Not forged as a weapon. Like the beskar forged spear. Which should’ve been explained if it isn’t secretly about to come back as a focus point now that The Armourer is getting more screen time. It should’ve been asked by Din to her. She skipped over who forged it and gave it to that lady in season 2 when Ahsoka appeared.
tar Wars seems to love making side characters more interesting than the characters we’re following. Planet by planet, just flying by looking out the window at all the cool stuff we go by in the cramped N-1
Yeah Bo-Katan already had several shots at leading and she ended up alone with nothing to show for herself. I would keep her as far away from a position of power as possible given her track record. Not that she couldn't be a good Ally but she has proven to be an awful leader unfortunately.
Idk, the Mythosaur didnt pull down Bo-Katan in the waters of Mandalore, it pulled at Din. Even when Bo was in the water it didnt do anything but look at her. I think Bo has altereriour motives that are self centered while Din seems to be more the opposite. I could be wrong but I feel like Din is the one that will ride the Mythosaur in the end.
The Myhtosaur didn't pulled Din into the depths, Din thought the water was shallow so he fell and couldn't swim because of the weight of his Beskar armor. Also Bo Katan is not self centered, she is a Princess trying to rebuild her kingdom. She was born in a middle of millenia long destruction via civil war upon civil war. Mandalorian identity conflict is all she ever known, can't fault her for being the way she is.
@@GRA5S I agree Bo only knows conflict. But that doesnt change my feelings that she is caring only for her clan of Mandalorians. Seeing that Mythosaur put one thing in her mind in my opinion. She wants to ride that Mythosaur and rule all the Mandalorians. To me, thats selfish. Plus I still think the Mythosaur pulled Din down. Not argueing, just my thoughts.
Mythosaur can pull only beta men..not a Sigma female you fool..only Sigma females can see mythosaur..when armourer found that se saw a mythosaur..she instantly become beta female..that's why she allows her to walk both paths...i am really excited what's the next episodes will show.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
People been complaining it's becoming the Bo Katan show but she had alot of development in Clone Wars and Rebels im all for seeing more to her arc. Din can lead but is not THE leader.
It's so good because they're now like a mixture of medieval scandinavians, samurai clans, and the greek city-states. It's that part of the story where they finally unite together without bloody political feuds and who knows what is the end product of it
There is also the speech of the forges and how the forge is the heart of mandolorian culture. It also reveals things about oneself through trials and adversity. The armorer talks about how she saw the massive forge on Mandalor and how large/ornate it was. “The air rung with the sound of a thousand hammers”. But then she starts to talk about her own forge that the children of the watch used in the sewers -> small, simple, made of scrap parts. But both ultimately served the same purpose. To strengthen Mandolorians. She realized thanks to the feats of Bokatan and Din Djarin -> how their trials not only strengthened them individually but also strengthened each other -> that child of the watch or not, Mandolorians are stronger together and no matter the clan, must serve the same purpose -> taking back Mandalor for all mandalorians and defeating the empire. Bokatan not only walked both worlds but she saw a mythosaur (does not matter if it’s real or a vision, it is a sign) and already has past favor with scattered Mandolorians since she is technically a mandolorian princess. So she is the best choice to bring all the mandolorian tribes together.
Its the first sign of Death Watch transitioning into the honor guard of The Mandalore. And din will be the "Shadow of Mandalore." Mandalores top assassin
A compromise would make the most sense. If they would allow them to take off their helmets in front of other mandalorians only. Yet keep them on in front of everybody else. That would solve so many issues .
The symbolism of her becoming the leader is there, but I just don't see her being a leader yet. She feels like a really passive player who everyone is pushing to become leader even though she's nearly given up herself. They need to give her a moment where she uses the unique skills she has and does something that no one else can do for a cause she chooses by herself.
Ill continue to watch Mandalorian season 3, as long as Din Djarin is still the main character & not tossed aside .I have no problems with any of the characters, there fine with me so far lol. Even tho the ratings for season 3 is a lil bit low, Im still enjoying some of the episodes. Just saying
“The Armor” is clearly in sync and in touch with the mythosaur! The armor knows that Bo Katan had an encounter with the mythosaur. Because the armor is like a prophet or a right hand man, to the mythosaur 🤷🏻♂️
as clever or wise the armorer was, it needed a mature enough community to hear her. others might have just lost their mind at seeing bo-katan without a helmet. i'm not surprised that they can listen since when they are seen arguing as a group they each say their piece in turn instead of scream the same sound bites past each other endlessly. 🙂
how the fact the they cut away after bo katan removes her helmet and the look like they remember eachother. Im pretty sure the armor is Usra Wren and she wanted to test Bo Katan to make sure she has changed and matured enough to take up a leadership role as in the past she failed and the different house went separate ways.
So it could be said, the leader of mandalore isn't the one who has the dark saber, but the one who walks every path of every clan (or at least a good number I'd imagine). Bo Katan of the United Clans!
Din character built the Mandalorian series, but the coming of BO Katan and giving her character more time has taken this series to a whole new level...
He removed when with other guy who had break down and killed his killers and wore other guys helmet then also when good bye and he said your beautiful dad for Jedi daycare
Din will still be the new Mandalor. They just needed to create leadership rivals for him to bring some weight to the achievement. Paz challenged and failed. Bo is just the next and the new mystery Mandalorian/s that freed Gideon will likely want it. I would put money on the armourer having a crack at it as well.
It's not about seeing the mythosaur, it's about taming it. Bo wants to lead, which makes her unfit to lead. Din doesn't want to lead but, he won the dark saber in combat and was "pulled down", or chosen, by the mythosaur. He doesn't want to lead but likely has the character to do so well
I hope they make it like a joint leadership between din and Bo cuz they seem to make great team of din as the physical claim with the saber and Bo as the verbal claim. Her being rightful ruler as royalty din with the saber. They very much don’t won’t to fight each other.
Well Armorer is a cultist, and cultists aways want more people in their cults, and in this way she can bring more Mandalorians to the "This is the way" Cult :D
