Rocksteady's long-awaited follow-up to their highly acclaimed Batman series is finally here after nearly 9 years, and... it's not going well. Subscribe for more: ru-vid.com?su...
What is perplexing most is that the endgame is focusing on elseworlds, alternate dimensions/timelines etc. so the question becomes "why did you set this in the Arkham timeline?"
@@n4ughty_knight I mean other than "this is the Arkham timeline" it doesn't have cred because everyone hates the storyline and idea that they're killing Batman
Game would have made more sense if they tried to tie it in to Injustice. Granted they would have had to get NRS to back it but the story might not be so bland.
@@justindenson3686But hey who tf cares about Injustice. Arkham Games are considered to be the Best SuperHero games of all time. That’s why they were shoe horning it in “From the creators of Batman Arkham”, “This is based in Arkham Universe.” You can even see Insomniac Copying so much of Ideas and Technicalities that made them GOTY contenders.
@@uwotm8634didn’t want to make this lololoololol who sells a game they didn’t want to make please explain lmfao they made it meaning they wanted it, maybe some ideas they didn’t want but ultimately it’s what they chose to CREATE. and it’s just…….ATROCIOUS
@@TheMaddenGuy1 Because the people most interested in sales is WB, who's known to tamper with projects before. Why would Rocksteady want to make a looter shooter with a battle pass all of a sudden?
If the Justice League was being mind controlled and truly no longer holding back they would be unstoppable. Each and every one of them is capable of being a serious global threat in their own way. The idea that some group of B-list criminals (who were already defeated and captured!) could defeat them was ridiculous from the start.
Heck even batman wouldn't be able or have a hard time fighting a not holding back Justice League... Injustice batman even need a lot of help from other heroes and even alternate universe heroes to beat a unhinged Justice League
@@lelouchvibritannia1662it’s annoying how we allowed comic writers to make us believe Batman is in any way a formidable opponent to the other justice league members lol
@Priceman5 You didn't learn from the Last of US 2, or when Arcane did they same thing (made the online vamp game empty), did you? There is no going back for rocksteady, the talent is gone.
@@adrudds We think that but we're over here saying we can do what they're doing better. If we knew Anthem's problems before launch and were invited to help them - after knowing what we know now - shit I would have jumped ship.
To be fair, the gameplay was doomed from the beginning. How do you "play" as King Shark? Cpt Boomerang is a goof character from a bygone Era of toned down heroes. Harley Quinn is not a threat to any League member, in any capacity, period. This was preordained, room temp garbage.
And let's not forget batman in the last game saying his emotional goodbyes and even as far as telling Selena that her or anyone would never see him again only to IMMEDIATELY GO TO METROPLOIS AND JOIN THE JUSTICE LEAGUE
tf you think Captain Boomerang is going to do against Aliens WITH A FUCKING BOOMERANG? and it isn't teleportation, close to it, but he's just running and catching the boomerang while using a Speedforce Gauntlet
@@silverking8460 True but at least it’s planned. For all we know it could’ve been technical problems with offline compared to online that they needed to work on. Problem is in this era of gaming, majority of people have internet and don’t tend to focus on the offline group that much. The best thing Rocksteady said way before launch was working on an offline mode, would took years for any other company. Better late than never in my opinion.
Oh man that sounds crazy. Almost like a game company making single player FPS bangers like Dishonored being forced to make live service 4 player co op vampire trash.
It’s so sad to see because the facial capture in cutscenes and the art direction for parts of metropolis are GORGEOUS. Even some of the game elements like the movement of the characters (especially boomerang’s teleport) is so fucking cool. I really wish we could have had this game as a single-player rpg but here we are :(.
Honestly as much as I hate to admit it, I agree. The character movements are insanely fluid and look really good. Metropolis looks like a place that would've been good to explore under different circumstances. Cutscene visuals looks top tier. All these things makes the game suck even more because of all these assets were wasted on the Suicide Squad in general, and on a looter live service model
Maybe a justice league game or simply a superman game. This could have been an execptional place to make a fully featured Superman game as a single player experience. I think the company could have pulled that off.
rocksteady having a hard time making 4 characters unique on a million dollar budget while Earth Defense Force by Sandlot was able to make 4 unique characters with 35 people and pocket change
Or Superman. Or Wonderwoman. Or Batman with Preparation. Brainiac Controlling any of them needs more of a Team like Trigon, Darkseid, Reverse Flash and Dr fate, Not those Suicide squad idiots.
But those characters dont use any replacable/upgradable equipment that can leverage lootboxex, shooter-looter game mechanic and crafting upgrading.... They needed characters that can drop and equip stuff... because for any JL members it doesn't make sense and would be even more jaring. But since they dropped the lootbox mechanic at the last minute the whole thing crumples even more....
I think the main thing we're all concerned about is whether or not harley looks LGBT/cosplayable enough. Like, slay kween. I mean who even likes batman
it was a clone. his finger literally grows back out of no where, brainiac still has them and we break em out one by one each season. but i’m enjoying it a lot
There’s an alternate universe where someone at WB said “hey why are we making a game about the dumbass Suicide Squad and another separate game about Batman’s protégés that have nothing to do with each other? Let’s combine those 2 ideas”. Gotham Knights but with the budget this game had and the general plot about needing to save the Justice League from Brainiacs mind control while being a proper sequel to the Arkham series starring characters we know and have played as like Robin, Red Hood, Nightwing, and Batgirl/Oracle would’ve been a thousand times better than this suicide squad shit. Hell they could’ve then used seasons to introduce new heroes we haven’t played as and new Bat Family members and other heroes like Damian, Azrael, Black Canary, Green Arrow,etc. but no that makes too much sense
Falcon, you nailed it right at the end. This game just screams WB turning to Rocksteady and saying "I dont care what you want to do, make us endless money" and Rocksteady likely having no choice but to comply.
-"Guys this game will have 6 seasons as new content" -"So we going to have like a new threat, enemies and boss every season?" -"What? No. You're going to fight same guy over and over for the next 6 seasons"
Hopefully they at least mix it up a bit. So far I see this as destiny 2 vanilla start. It didn't have that good of a start but it sure did build up as it went on.
Honestly, if the game JUST came out but the devs are already saying "look to future updates and seasons" then that says whatever you're playing in the beginning just isnt good or important.
I just want to throw this out there This game was in development still when the avengers game came out, that was 4 years ago. So the developers of the time saw the backlash avengers got and STILL kept making it live service.
I just started my Arkham journey, I'm already at Arkham City and I can say one thing for sure, Arkham Knight will be the last game I play. I'm not touching this dumpster fire of a game. RIP Kevin Conroy 😢
Maybe the concept of killing heroes will tend to bring in developers/writers/etc... who aren't so much interested in creating a game that fans of the previous games will love, but instead want to inject their own subversive ideas. Yeah, it is a bad premise for a game. It invites toxicity and hatred of what is truly good and beautiful. The "they were mind controlled" shtick is a low-effort cop-out.
Some of the parts I've seen discussed in other places, especially Harley's final words to Batman, read to me like it was ripped from some crappy character-bashing fanfiction. Any potential legitimate character flaws are mixed with made-up flaws, then exaggerated to extreme proportions to create a shallow caricature of the character. This character is then "ripped apart" by someone who barley knows anything about the surface level character, much less willing to look deeper into them.
Here’s a safe bet for EVERY GAME : if there is a battle pass ESPECIALLY AT LAUNCH, the developers are more worried about return on investment then delivering any type of playable game.
Things that went wrong: -Sweet Baby -Live Service -Writing not even familiar with general lore -Original Rocksteady gone -Thinking you would actually be able to shoot Flash or Superman
Let's not forget that even there own game scenes kills itself. Brainwashed King Shark doesn't need the green lantern ring to eat his opponents. "King Shark is Shark"
Remember like a week ago when the general sentiment was the creators of Palworld just meshed a whole bunch of things from other games and it worked… this game meshed a whole bunch of things from the wrong games and it didn’t, it didn’t work at all.
It sucks for the people involved that worked on the game because the people working on the game, developers to actors, did the best with what they were forced to do. It sucks even more for Rocksteady, and other studios forced to make games like this, because their name is being dragged through the mud when it’s very likely the integrity lacking suits above them forcing them to go this route. People don’t want to lose their jobs and have to suck it up all while being the face and recipients of the backlash. Meanwhile those suits get off scot free for their obvious mismanagement and shitty decision making.
Following the Live Service trend is killing beloved studios like Rocksteady, Arkane and Bungie. Naughty Dog had clout to save itself but Bungie is also getting axed. It's sad, man.
@@tacituskillgore7437 Naughty Dog has got the highest dev turnover rate in the industry, it's so bad that over 50% of its staff are interns and most of the rest have only been there in the last five years. Literally no one who started the company is still there, all the old guard have long since left.
In before "We have a roadmap to fix the issue" followed up by "I'm leaving but the game is in good hands and has a bright future ahead" to be concluded by "we thank our players for your continued support but we've made the tough decision to close support on this universally beloved game on January 31st 2025"
@@hassathunter2464 I see why you would be thinking that. But the devs and WB strike me as so tonedeaf that they don't get the hint and extend the misery for about this long. I don't even know if I would consider this a positive outlook on things tbh.
@@user-ee3kr8et3x they are game development cancer parading themselves around as "diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives". They're just a symptom of the greater plague though, look to wokeness, forced compliance with ESG scores, and why liberal politicians are sanctioning the destruction of western culture. Everyone sees the pattern of garbage games/movies/shows/comics/etc. that we keep getting, at this point it should be hard to continue believing it's all one big coincidence.
@@MightyManotaur22 All games u named are trash xD worst of the worst garbage only existing to sour the game that came before or in GoW's case its allready the second game in that regard
"The other Deadshot was an impostor" the game can try and tell us that as much as possible, but there's no conceivable way the world's greatest detective doesn't realize this.
@@666slateran666No. Basically if they can't give a good enough explanation other than "just cause he's black now" you can honestly get f'd. We can eject that shit out of canon, if it's the majority which it seems to be, I'm afraid it's not canon.
Without watching I’ll tell you this, it’s a live service game that no one asked for, we told them we didn’t want this and they didn’t listen. They fucked around and found out.
Fools like you make me laugh out loud. Not understanding what the passage of time is and how investing money into things works. This game started development years ago and after 2 years would have had too many resources put into it for the company to back out. This game and the live service element would have been too far along years before people decided they had enough of live service games.
The "protagonists" are hollow, childish, do not grow over the course of their stories, entitled, have powers they did not earn or pay for, and have no redeeming or heroic qualities -- in short, the devs made characters that *they* could relate to, but humans can not.
As someone who works at a company with two co-founders, if those two left, it would be a completely different company. The founders are often the driving force behind the vision. So you’re totally right - it’s a rocksteady game in name but this essentially a different company that made this
If the start was the burning down of Wayne Manor and not Ra's attack, yeah, I could see that Really only changes some dialogue, minor plot tweaks and removes the protect Batman's identity side missions
I PRAY this is a warning to other studios that we DO NOT want live service/loot boxes/PTW games. I will just stick with my indie games over these cash-grabs all day every day
Rock steady made a perfect live service model. All future content free, forever. Pay once and done. If any other studio made this game it would be getting praised, saying "this is how you do live service". Unfortunately people are focused on WHO made the game, not the game itself. And there seems to be no nuance to the conversation. No one is comparing the game to other looter shooters or live service games. Just explaining why it's not the same as a single player action brawler
@@jesse1086I highly doubt ALL the future contents will be free, especially even Destiny can’t do that. IMO, the reason a lot of live service games failed because it doesn’t give enough reason for players to invest their time on. If they expect us to keep on grinding it must have a really good reasons to do so like Destiny or Warframe or PoE or even like Gacha games . For me this game seems good but I don’t care enough to grind it.
@@jesse1086 Doesn't matter, they made a game no one wanted and the fanboys who have no ability to think for themselves are not going to be able to save this one anymore than they managed to save Marvels Avengers.
What the hell is going on with the CEOs? Churning out half baked games, only to cut their staff when it didn’t land. The consumers are getting sour and the staff are getting punished? MAN!!
CEOs only exist to make the most profit as possible for the least amount of effort for the shareholders. Thing is, they only care about making money in the short term, and have no consideration for the long term, since usually they just wanna hold the position for a few years at most, make some millions, and then move on to the next company to suckle from.
CEO's, while some are awful, many are just shareholder puppets. They are just yes men. If a CEO doesn't do anything he can to make them as much money as humanly possible, then they will put somebody else in place who will. Shareholders don't play these games. They only want money. They will squeeze a company dry and move on to the next.
It's funny how WB and Rocksteady assumed that we were ready to move on from the Arkham formula when they could have easily milked that for years and years and we would have loved it.
Something I've been telling myself since 2022 is this; "If a game changes genres say story driven narrative to online exclusive or games as a service etc, the game will fail." This helped me avoid money wastage from not buying the new CODs
CoD was never a story driven narrative though...it's stayed very similar gameplay wise...it's the micro transactions and sbmm people don't like...but the game itself hasn't changed.
Eh what? Do you mean studio instead of game? In which case; let me direct you to Respawn entertainment, who went from making banger FPS games to banger ARPG's
You were wise to start thinking that when the rest of us started sounding the alarm years ago. Well done, and good on you. A solid internet pat on the back friend. 🖐️ or internet five. That works too.
Wouldn’t be shocked if this ends Rocksteady as a studio. I knew the second this was implied to be live service it was going to be a complete and utter dumpster fire. Just embarrassing.
It brings up the question: what would they do next? They could try to fix this game and slowly pull a Cyberpunk maybe, or they could ditch this game and start a new one from scratch. Both would require a ton of time, resources, and fan goodwill to allow them to recover, so I don’t see them surviving long. Maybe a year or a few years with a LOT of layoffs. This isn’t worst case, but it’s closer to worst case than it is best case scenario.
From what I’ve heard the original developers left the company during this game’s development. Sefton Hill started a new studio with the others that left.
@@bencarlson4300 the thing about Cyberpunk (I've played it and platinumed it) is that its story was spot on the you can earn every cosmetic in the game the only microtransaction is a dlc which is amazing but doesn't ruin the story if you don't have it and the gameplay is genuinely fun while this is a complete dumpster fire of money hungry corporation bullshit
@@bencarlson4300they are clearly going to carry on developing it, there's a road map. Even Redfall didn't die out of the gate. It's not going to pull a Cyberpunk but it probably will get better. It just depends if enough people hang around long enough to make it worthwhile. I'm guessing not but there are definitely people out there who are enjoying it. Fair play to them. I might not like it but I don't wish for other people to have a bad experience and don't claim that I'm some ultimate arbiter of what other people are allowed to find fun.
If this is the quality of writing and gameplay they can deliver then the studio is dead already. Many once legendary "dev studios" like Bioware for example are dead and gone, all the people who made once good games have left long ago. The publisher is just using the name for attention even tho it has nothing to do with the original studio.
One of the few things I liked about this game is the Character Design, all of them looked like they came out of a comic book. Every single member of the Justice League had superb design.
man i made a comment somewhere else earlier what went wrong and you understood it 200% truly the best game reviewer i've seen in long long times. There's literally just too many problems with the game overal and that for a 70/100 Euro mid game with no existing ending. And they have the gall to call reviews or commentary on this game just random troll attacks.
What exactly do you think is wrong with today's industry that wasn't always there?I know it's easy to say what everyone else is saying but atleast don't look like a rét@r d while saying it.
I swear the talk surrounding this game is a bunch of buzzwords from a bunch of people who know nothing about this game besides “DC”. Nd RU-vidrs raking in hate watch views to ride the confirmation bias train makes thing worse by fueling the fire
you are a part of the flock bro you cannot be happy with what thse game devs are releasing its just straight garbage, and what about cod now? its 70$ has a microtransaction store and a battle pass thats the definition of greed and its not just call of duty doing this shit@@StrikeforceWarBot
you know it's bad when Falcon says it's bad this dude is usually way too fair on bad games, which is fine it just makes him saying a game is bad even more impactful
@@thebyrdcage8619It’s definitely bad if everyone is shitting on it. I guarantee the combat will get repetitive 3 hours in. You’re fighting the same enemies over and over
I worked on this title and it was simply UNFINISHED. It went through reboots for about 75% of the dev time and then when the OGs left they couldn't figure out what to do next. The story parts weren't even worked on until late 2023 , which is why all the characters stand around doing fuck all why the plot happened to them (see WW's fight with Sman) and it was made more "spicey" (inflammatory) at corporate's behest to keep everyone from seeing how underbaked it is. The higher ups didn't want it to be "like the cyberpunk fiasco " 🙄
This is the purest form of modern gaming experiences not only that, but what happens when corporatism gets in the way of making a good game look into Sweet Baby Inc… That is all you need to know about this game
As someone who met Kevin Conroy at a comic con (and got talk to him for 20 minutes, it was the last day and I was the last person to see him) he deserved so much better, this should’ve been a game about Batman fighting (and curing) a mind controlled JLA if anything.
@@WolfStory even though he looked like he was on his way out (it was the end of the day) he still made time for me and took some pictures with me and signed my copy of Arkham Knight.
Noone ever mentions that Harley Quinn's revolver makes the shell case hitting the ground noise when she shoots Batman. Harley Quinn's REVOLVER, a revolver that is literally only in the game for cutscenes i might remind you.
I can guess why it took 9 years to develop that the original Rocksteady dev want it their way but get overridden by some MBA manager. So the old experience devs are all left and leave only noob dev to reboot the game into live service one
Deciding your game will just be live service is not just stupid, but ignorant and cocky to say the least. Publishers basically "decide" their game will be success and popular. And newsflash, you cant decide that, you morons. I hate live service, its a blight, but even me, when I think of it, even I play live service you could argue. I am a big fan of Paradox strategy games, like Stellaris. And these guys keep cracking expansions like crazy and I love it. But guess what, they made a game FIRST, fucking THEN it got popular, then they made expensions, and when there was a demand, then they turned into live service basically. These morons however, they undermine entire development and the game, so it could be live service in the future. Like thanks, thanks for "deciding" we will love and play and buy this crap before you even made... now go to welfare center or smth cause you might gonna need it.b
If you remember almost a decade ago there were leaks of rocksteadys superman concept art. That concept art was for this game. Just saying that is how long they have been actively developing this game
The moment I saw a clip of King Shark putting on Lantern’s ring(!), immediately becoming the new GL, I literally said out loud “somebody doesn’t know what the f**k they’re doing”
You know what I've found that helps studios with a game that's tanking? They should start attacking people in negative reviews, and tell them that they just didn't understand the game.
@@Tuningforks85 hahahaq you are in full enial of why haters are hating @Fidelity. I'll explain it so it's not a cheesy attack.. Starfield was hyped for 10 years.. And there is/was nothing unique about it at all. It ended up being Skyrim SciFy... I let most who were caught up in the hype train letdown. 'Good' wasn't enough for a 10 year Bethesda hype. The game needed another 2 years in the oven for more features for sure. Bugs or lack of mean little to me since they always get fixed w/ time... ~~Me personally, i never really mentioned more then 2 or 3 times online about Starfield. I didn't buy my pre-order & decided to try it on game pass 1st. Glad i did.... ~With this game KillJustice League the Joker was nail in coffiin for me.. I didn't even know about the Batman fate at that point.. That Joker screams Diversity.. A insecure Joker is 100% what the fans never would want in that character... And this is the fault of what happens when people whos only skills are diversity & inclusion design a established character... Now all the pressure is on Rocksteady to make the next game be a super homerun like ArkhamCity because without it fans like myself will avoid them completely like Bioware.....
I think Luthor sees himself as above toxic masculinity because he's Toxicity Itself. He's the avatar of toxicity, his masculinity is besides the point.
The reason Harley murdering Bats was SO bad, is because he has actively been trying to help her. She was a victim and Bruce wanted to save her. And so she, rudely and crudely, executes him (with a terrible cutscene) while lecturing him at length. It's nonsensical - especially when you remember she's a psychotic murderer and terrorist.
Brody she was a therapist and if you’ve noticed about Harley she didn’t have any satisfaction in her voice, she didn’t enjoy it. She was trying to hide her pain. She, unlike the others, didn’t celebrate or disrespect his body
@@robertrozmirsky8040this is the Arkham universe Harley It is established in the universe that she slept all the way to earn her degree She was bad that's why joker could manipulate her She's also a terrorist and a children killer Also she actively tortured Jason too That character is in no position to lecture anyone on morality Let alone The Batman
He's an easy 280 for sure! His official weight has been 210lbs for decades now but he's always much bigger than he used to be! If Stone Cold is the same height at 6'2 and he weighs 252lbs, then I agree all geared up Bruce is easily 280lbs. No way she even picks him up.
My favorite people are this game’s defenders: “You’re overreacting just because this game is intended as a deliberate insult to you and the things you love”
Always makes me laugh, that one. They deliberately set out to insult you, so if you're insulted... you're wrong? But if you weren't insulted and you liked it, that would mean they failed.
To be honest, as much as I dislike this game. Some people exaggerate, this game isn't a deliberate insult. It's just an expensive live service game with repetitive gameplay, disappointing boss fights and a story that could had been done better. But calling it a deliberate insult is just exaggeration.
I've never understood that line of reasoning. Why would an entity that derives its income making 'things you love' intentionally commit hærəˈkɪrɪ by denigrating the thing their customer loves? Nothing more than mental gymnastics concocted by Simps that have zero concept of constructive criticism.
@@cape9869 maybe remove the word _deliberate_, then you'll get what people are saying, or maybe you're not a fan of the characters being insulted because the _insult_ is present.
@@ms-terious it’s easy to understand if you understand the people who make these decisions. The company is filled with devs who are progressive whackos. They hate Batman for being a straight, white male. They hate that comics have mostly been created by straight, white makes. And they hate the audience for being primarily straight, white males. It is that simple. And the executives (usually the only guys in these companies who have a basic understanding of economics) know nothing about Batman, comics, or video games. They just demand a live-service game based on a popular existing franchise that they can milk as much money as they can for a decade; they neither know nor care about the story
And the fact that a “consulting firm” called Sweet Baby worked on the game. That’s a huge red flag. If you ever see a game and Sweet Baby mentioned together then stay away from that game at all costs.
I think a big factor in the creation of this game is the fact that because media has become so over saturated with superhero content it has become "cool" to hate superheros. So a bunch of executives think if they make a game shitting on superheroes it'll be a big hit but the dirty secret of all the superhero hate is people actually still love superheroes, so it doesn't actually work.
@kilyk21 stole money, yes. And that will forever resonate with every passionate mk fan since the og days. If they announce MK II, they can't follow the same path they took with mk1. Guaranteed flop. All the good marketing before release sold the game. All the trailers before release was absolutely fire. No doubt about it. But the game is souless, especially with Tekken 8 out now.
@@YungShep1there is 0 difference in mk1 and x and everyone loved x. Y’all just enjoy hating and never want games or studios to change or try anything new.
That's what I thought exactly "This can't be that rocksteady" The one that gave me such good memories. Even right now I still have Arkham knight installed and still play it sometimes even after finishing 6 times. I guess we should call it rock-not-so-steady anymore
I don't consider this game to be canon in the ArkhamVerse. It's not just a personal statement but also a logical one, cause there's no way things would've ever went the way it did in the story, not as long as batman was there.
I think my biggest thing that makes me sad is that this wasn’t what rocksteady initially wanted to work on. They pitched other ideas first but all were rejected, so eventually this game was pitched and it’s rumored that rocksteady not only wanted to make this game but had creative freedom with the story as well as gameplay loop and mechanics. Rocksteady was PROUD of this game and it’s story, which I find saddening if true. The original rocksteady truly is gone.
One of those pitches was Superman. Can you imagine the original Rocksteady team making an open world Superman game? It would have been so frickin cool. Sure, they may have had to nerf the Man of Steel a bit because he is so powerful, but that's okay, being able to fly at ultra speeds around Metropolis and beyond would have rocked.
I'm just tremendously disappointed by what happened with Batman. Genuinely hurt by this. Batman is one of the characters that has always meant the world to me, and this treatment he received is awful. (I don't give a damn if he's "not dead", that's not the point)
Does anyone remember Harry Quinn’s fighting moves in Arkham knight?? She used like joker tricks and a bat, it was so much cooler. Now it’s just shooty-shoot.
i didn't realize this took 9 years... that's just sad, 2023 was a great year for games and 2024 looks like we are stepping back from all the progress we've made.
Superman could have destroyed them all with a flick of his finger. But they killed him with guns, the man is bulletproof and faster than a speeding bullet. Wtf were they smoking in the office
@@JeighNeither That's exactly it. Lex-2 synthesizes a new form of Kryptonite that they wear and use in bullets, and the Superman fight largely boils down to constantly shooting him to lower his defenses over time.
Everybody posting comments here knows that the majority of live service games are trash, but that doesn't stop them from making huge mountains of cash for their publishers.
Remember Guardians of the Galaxy? That was a great single player superhero game that sadly no one played. I feel most companies just want to max their profit potentials (which is a horrible move).
