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This video is taken from footage of our recent troweling fundamentals class. We had 5 participants complete the course. Topics included, what type of thinset to use, what size trowel to use, and how to apply thinset mortar to both floor and wall applications.
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@67Swepty
@67Swepty 8 месяцев назад
Can't tell you enough how great a dude you are for your knowledge and help in teaching the world this craft, Keep up the great work!
@MarkAlbert
@MarkAlbert Год назад
Your explanation here was the best I ever found about using modified vs. unmodified thinset mortar. Last year, I was asked to replace a bathtub and tile surround. Based on my research and knowing the client, I chose Schluter Kerdi-Board as backing for the tiles, but was thrown off by them requiring unmodified mortar, really hard to find. Struggled with this quite a bit, but good to know for future jobs that modified also works for Kerdi-Board now. You really know your stuff, Isaac! Thanks for sharing it with the world!
@kurtbilinski1723
@kurtbilinski1723 Год назад
Schluter changed their story on that... now saying to use "All Set" for all applications.
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 2 месяца назад
@@kurtbilinski1723yes it’s good for a thin set-BUT it still providing a sue fire waterproof bond between overlapping Kerdi membrane
@cj886
@cj886 Год назад
Isaac I’ve always appreciated your honest and straightforward approach, glad to see you doing well brother, great job. -Carlton
@mzerk1021
@mzerk1021 Год назад
Great video - I've been watching loads of them over the last 4-5 weeks - just starting to tile my bathroom and your video's have helped me immensely - and I appreciate your tone, insights and knowledge! Keep on, keeping on!
@Matt-my7pz
@Matt-my7pz Год назад
Certainly appreciate that knowledge and experience put into teaching.
@gregshirk7220
@gregshirk7220 7 дней назад
What a nice teacher and skilled man…
@karenpayne3946
@karenpayne3946 Год назад
Love your stuff you are dead on, I have been tiling for 35 years and one good point to make is never tile a backsplash over drywall mud ever, the GC doesn't even know it must be primed. Thanks Karen. Sealtite Groutworks Colorado!
@carlosbrito7738
@carlosbrito7738 Год назад
Thank you for this video. It cleared up some questions I had about thinset. Keep up the great videos.
@erik1514
@erik1514 Год назад
Really enjoyed this video. This is exactly what I needed to see to motivate me to tile above my shower insert. Thanks man!
@rrsblack2
@rrsblack2 Год назад
So glad I found this video. I've been combing the internet for alternative kerdi thinsets other than their own brand. Thank you!
@joebinion1
@joebinion1 Год назад
Great video with a ton of information,thank you for paying it forward,GOD BLESS
@travisburch4342
@travisburch4342 Год назад
This was really great to hear little details. Definitely learned some new things!
@jameskim2007
@jameskim2007 Год назад
Thank god I found tile coach, returning my Mapei uncoupling thinset the Lowe’s guy told me to use. Luckily I didn’t use it yet. Gained years of knowledge in 1 day of education from your RU-vid
@flightlessboid
@flightlessboid Месяц назад
Straight to the point. Thank you. Every other video I looked at vacillates in their recommnends to the point where I had the same question(s) coming out as going in.
@ScottyLo
@ScottyLo Год назад
Some great information in this video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@AK-kn9lq
@AK-kn9lq 3 месяца назад
Well done Isaac and class!!
@Referrdia
@Referrdia Год назад
this is really cool. keep it up big fella. You taught me plenty for years!
@alieb580
@alieb580 3 месяца назад
Finally all my questions are answered, amazing video thank you so much for explaining this
@filcandiy
@filcandiy 10 месяцев назад
thanks for explaining it helps me a lot ! that's my question all the time about the modified and unmodified, now you explained here very clearly! thanks 🙏👍
@basilbcf
@basilbcf 4 месяца назад
I'm getting geared up to redo our shower/bath and was planning to use Kerdi. This has been very helpful!
@andrewthomas4399
@andrewthomas4399 Год назад
Love it man keep up the amazing work.
@tiletheworld
@tiletheworld Год назад
Thanks for teaching good accurate information!
@margaretbear
@margaretbear Год назад
Great basic info! Thank you.
@zackje1
@zackje1 Год назад
Fantastic video. Thank you.
@khaledbelhaj
@khaledbelhaj Год назад
Great job my friend, I wish you success. I am also a professional in installing tiles and marble. I have 15 years of experience. I am from Morocco
@Aepek
@Aepek Год назад
Thanks! And keep going, even when things seem rough, cheers✌🏻
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
Always!
@KyleDearth
@KyleDearth Год назад
I just started using Tri-Lite. Love that it's light weight and spreads easily. Just easy to work with compared to some other mortars I've used. My only gripe is the short open time. I essentially have to mix small batches because I learned the hard way, the stuff firms up pretty quickly. I'll probably try the Multimax Lite on my next job since it seems to have a much longer open time.
@marcgambone4240
@marcgambone4240 Год назад
Kera flex does the same thing and probably a little worse
@googleisskynet7312
@googleisskynet7312 5 месяцев назад
@@marcgambone4240 Keraflex is way cheaper though. So when I have to waste some, I don't feel so bad.
@mond0133
@mond0133 Год назад
Awesome very informative Thankyou!!
@Redeyefiddler
@Redeyefiddler Год назад
Thanks Coach!
@SkillfulScott
@SkillfulScott Год назад
Nice job for trowel size I always use whatever the thickness of the tile is
@Dimakool
@Dimakool Год назад
Amazing videos boss, very informational ❤
@jamesmedina3271
@jamesmedina3271 9 месяцев назад
Love the tile coach ❤ 🇺🇸
@Aepek
@Aepek Год назад
Awesome Isaac, one day would love to take a class just to take and pickup any tips that haven’t learned already; as THERES always something you can learn and improve upon, no matter how long been in biz, imo. Think it’s cool that you do thee classes to help ppl as well, not too many out there that do things like this, o keep it up. Cheers bro✌🏻
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
Thanks for the Love Aepek!
@thekickingwolf5115
@thekickingwolf5115 Год назад
This is gold! Thanks coach!! 🙌
@orvsr4me2
@orvsr4me2 Год назад
Very nice, coach. I haven't done the math yet, but notch trowels should just have a tile square inch rating to know where they are appropriate. I have also switched to the Schluter all-set for basically everything. A little more spendy, but it works great everywhere.
@professorkaos2781
@professorkaos2781 Год назад
i absolutely hate all-set...its literally non-existent on big union sites after its initial launch. Many tried and most gave it up after a single order. You sir are one of a kind in my experience but if it works for you stick with it. If I had to pick an all-purpose mortar for floors I'd probably go with good ol' LFT mapei or Laticrete gold but for walls almost always Mapei Ultralite.
@ElTestimonioDirecto
@ElTestimonioDirecto Год назад
Wish there were teachers like him in Socal
@quarrystuart9243
@quarrystuart9243 Год назад
Great information thanks so much
@psfgtech
@psfgtech Год назад
Clear and concise, my only recommendation would be use a red marker or digital monitor. Thanks
@whentosayifgoodorbad2948
@whentosayifgoodorbad2948 Год назад
I broke in soaking the tile. Everything was set in a fresh setting bed with neat cement. When thinset mortar first came out we were skeptical. My boss was very slow to accept it. I remember the original thinset was plenty sticky and had pretty good workability. In the Bay Area we called it Bond On. A few years went by and Custom came out with the recommendation to add a liquid polymer to the thinset powder instead of water for extra strength. It looked to me like they reduced or removed the original ingredient in the dry powder and sold the liquid as 'value added'. Marketing genius! They later tried recommending that the polymer be added to colored grout (with disasterous results) and quickly got away from that recommendation. It looks now like the industry has pretty much given up on liquid additives altogether. Thinset mortars are basically back to square one in my opinion.
@mathusvaiaoga9787
@mathusvaiaoga9787 Год назад
If only industry can go back to old school float and set. Lol. Everyone here in Florida uses crooked azz bend-a-board. Lol
@plainsbowhunter1346
@plainsbowhunter1346 Год назад
Love you channel Isaac. Keep up the great videos. Couple questions. Would recommend using a modified thin set under Kerdi membrane other than the Schluter brand? Also where can we get the bucket liners that you use? I’ve seen them in your videos before. Thanks
@gubslosh9521
@gubslosh9521 Год назад
Wish I would of watched this a couple days ago I used unmodified for my Kerdi band with the hardiebacker and man did it dry quick. First time doing anything like this tho live and learn
@gateslattes4686
@gateslattes4686 Год назад
Wish we had a guy like u here. Would have loved to take lessons from u
@ryangunderson5064
@ryangunderson5064 Год назад
love the content. When I get into 3x12s, or similar longer and skinnier tiles I like to use the 3/8ths. Ive found most of these tiles have some type of warp to them. I have usually found that if you pop one of them off the wall, the middle of the tile doesn't get great coverage while using the 1/4x1/4.
@splatterize
@splatterize Год назад
Try flat skimming the back of the tile bias to the bow. I get full contact this way.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
That is a good point. Especially if you have a worn down 3/8"ths it will work perfect. A brand new 1/4x1/4 would probably do the trick though. Wall tiles do not need 100% coverage in my opinion.
@kurtbilinski1723
@kurtbilinski1723 Год назад
@@TileCoach It also depends in part on how much the user is angling the trowel.
@KJ_nyc
@KJ_nyc Год назад
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You are the first tile professional to mention 2" x 2" mosaic sheets (at 13:50). I've been trying to get specific questions answered but no one answers. So glad you offer private coaching classes. I plan to contact you there.
@fireace9045
@fireace9045 Год назад
Prolite from Custom, my all time fav for setting tile. But dont try it on Schlter Ditra, boy oh boy. Just doesnt want to bond
@mohdaiyan4242
@mohdaiyan4242 Год назад
Please upload a vedio on full drainage systems
@RawTakes
@RawTakes Год назад
I use white wall grout most of the time. works well with subway
@view05nys
@view05nys Год назад
I have a "Warmboard" radiant heating flooring, which has an aluminum surface. I want to tile over it, with a decoupling membrane below the tile. Requesting a recommendation on the type of thinset to use.
@danielolson437
@danielolson437 Год назад
I've been using too small notched trowels. The largest I ever used was 1/4 x 3/8... and that on 24x24 tile. Too much work to get adequate and even coverage. This should make a significant improvement on time.
@crashkg
@crashkg Год назад
Thanks for your videos. I had a quick question. I have a tile deck that I am redoing, the waterproofer recommends J-Drain 1000 over the waterproofing, I was also recommended Laticrete tile and drain board. Is there a substantial difference?
@AdventureswithGeneral
@AdventureswithGeneral Год назад
Thanks for the added info on planks. Most floor installs I see are planks and there isn't much info about trowel size for planks. After all, a 6x36 is smaller than 12" and larger than 12". Lol. Q: Would a 1/4 x 3/8 work on a 1/4” thick plank 9x47 if you back buttered the tiles?
@frankcatrini4816
@frankcatrini4816 Год назад
imo definitely no... i rarely see 1/4 inch thick planks but most planks that long have a bow in the middle and require a deeper trowel, so i would recommend 1/2x 1/2 with back buttering and even with that some planks can be so bowed that even with that the center coverage can be iffy. if you have a flat floor and the tiles are indeed totally flat perhaps a 3/8 could be enough, but that is rare. in cases where the customer buys long planks that have a good amount of bow, i actually use a modified 1/2 trowel that i cut to 5/8 in depth and definitely always use a leveling system, dont attempt to just install without . when in doubt use the trowel in question and then lift it back out to check the coverage, sometimes thats the only way to see if your using the correct size. good luck.
@harrypoker09
@harrypoker09 Год назад
What modified thin set you can recomend for tub surround cement board? ( before water proofing)
@NickBen11
@NickBen11 Год назад
What about trowel size for a 2x10 subway tile? Supplier said to use an 1/8 x 1x8 but that seems pretty small to me, so I was going to try and check coverage and then maybe go with a 3/16” or 1/4”, if needed. Also does trowel size differ if you’re using an adhesive vs a thinset? I’ll be doing a backsplash in a kitchen. Thanks!
@PlumbNutz
@PlumbNutz Год назад
Imo, it depends how fast you work and the size of the tile and where it's going. If it's a very large format tile and you work slowly you can just mix up smaller more frequent batches and use an unmodified thinset which cost less than half as much.
@bmarkie4103
@bmarkie4103 Год назад
Coach I have a question about grout and thinset. First I am not a professional tiler. I have renovated two bathrooms for myself and the last one I did I keep getting a lot of thinset filling up the space between the tiles so I would to go back and scrape it out clean between the spaces. I got tired of doing that so I just used it like grout, smooth it with a damp sponge and let it dry . Well it came out pretty good although it was a little more sandy than sanded grout. It been a few years now but it still looks good with no cracks. Also this was done on walls not the floor. What is your opinion ?
@sonofigoo
@sonofigoo 24 дня назад
Thank you for your videos they are very informative. Our local tile store sold me laticrete 317 unmodified thinset to use with schulter membrane which I installed. You mentioned no need for unmodified? They also indicated I could use 1/4x1/4 notched trowel for 12x24 tile on shower wall. Wondering about the implications of using 1/4x1/4 vs. your recommendation of 1/2x1/2 notched trowel and using unmodified thinset. My walls are fairly flat with (1/8" tolerance)
@420somewhere4
@420somewhere4 Год назад
I usually use the most expensive thinset in the store for floors and one notch down for walls.
@bennisim7949
@bennisim7949 8 месяцев назад
Hi can you still use lht thinset for small mosaic on the shower floor? I don’t want to buy more than one thinset if I don’t have to. Thanks.
@omarbrown2416
@omarbrown2416 Год назад
Would you recommend Tri-lite for schluter membrane?
@squeekhobby4571
@squeekhobby4571 Год назад
Great lessons. If we put tiles over radiant floor ( concrete floor) what do you recommend, modified or unmodified
@Voting4theFelon
@Voting4theFelon Год назад
Floor leveler first
@lillithjones993
@lillithjones993 Год назад
I need to re-apply a tile that has a new section of plywood. There is no room for backerboard in order to make it level with all the other tiles. It’s in the corner of a closet on the other side of the water heater so I would like to waterproof the plywood with some aqua defense. Will Mapei modified thin set dry on top of a waterproof membrane needing air or is it going to dry via chemical reaction?
@frankcatrini4816
@frankcatrini4816 Год назад
quarter x quarter for 1 inch mosiacs? that could be a disaster imo. personally would use a V notch on most small sheet tiles and a 3/16 is a bit small, so i modify which ends up being like a 1/4 to 5/16 V. As for 6x6 tiles i think 6x6 quarry is a good candidate for 1/4 X 3/8, especially wire cut. I also find 1/2 X 1/2 trowel a bit small for anything longer than 3ft, i use a lot of 4ft or longer plank tiles and always back butter and the half inch trowel just is not enough in the center of the plank because of the bows, so i modify the trowel and deepen it to about 11/16 . you also have to keep an eye for wear on the trowels because it doesnt take long before a 1/2 towel to loose depth quickly from scratching concrete even with a Marshalltown, so im always modifying my trowels, keeping them at the proper depth with an angle grinder and blade. i use those cheaper type thick grinder blades (i believe they are like 1/4 wide) that come with a new angle grinder to modify my trowels .
@gemtianleon
@gemtianleon Год назад
I have a big doubt I will install 24x48 tiles on the wall above the bathtub in a bathroom, I ordered 2 Schluter Kerdi - 54 SQ FT for an area of 3x8 5x8 3x8 each Durox cement board wall above the bathtub, but I don't know if I should use this type of membrane Kerdi, redguard, or aquadefenc, I am very overwhelmed with so much information and I do not want the tiles to start to detach from the wall, what is your recommendation
@Dean5
@Dean5 Год назад
Thanks for all you do, it is greatly appreciated. Is there any particular reason you recommended the Tri-Lite over the Multi-Max Lite? My bathroom is just about ready for tile and I have 5 bags of Multi-Max Lite and was going to use it to set my Laticrete Strata Mat on concrete, 12x24 floor tiles and 12x24 wall tiles. Thanks again and God Bless
@ssl3546
@ssl3546 Год назад
Multi-Max Lite basically god-tier, it's amazing. (Only caveat - I don't think lite thinset can be used for heated floor installs.) MML is so sticky that it's actually a pain to clean the mixer paddles - normal thinset can just be spun in a bucket of water to clean but MML needs to be cleaned with a sponge.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
Multimax is very good. We use it mostly for sheet membrane waterproofing. For setting tile it is good too, but it can be a little messy because it is so sticky. Just make sure to keep your tools clean. Tri-Lite is a little easier to keep clean while working.
@jackdunagan331
@jackdunagan331 Год назад
Does pot life time begin when the thinset is first mixed or after the slake mix?
@anonymousone4998
@anonymousone4998 Год назад
Which thunder to lay membranes or water proofing?
@paulunger1798
@paulunger1798 Год назад
Thanks for the video! Would anything change if securing kerdi board to a concrete wall? Still use modified?
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
Yes sir!
@Jubileejones
@Jubileejones Год назад
Is Sturdi Flex a good thinset for shower? 12 x 24 tile and foam shower pan.
@kevingawelko6454
@kevingawelko6454 Год назад
Good evening, Do you have any recommendations on some budget friendly software for someone who is starting up their business again.
@matthewholmes8638
@matthewholmes8638 3 месяца назад
Can you use Tri lite under the pre sloped kerdi pan? Also can you use the multimax lite for the kerdi pan? Also what is the difference in tri lite and multimax?
@michaeltaylor3745
@michaeltaylor3745 4 месяца назад
You didn’t mention 1/4” x 1/2” trowel. That’s my go to trowel.
@muskateer10
@muskateer10 Год назад
I am having extreme trouble finding a thinset that will work with my kerdi membrane to ceramic tile. All the recommendations just do not seem to be available in ND. Any suggestions on a more common thinset to use? AllSet not available; Laticrete Hydro Ban - not available, etc. We have Homedepot, Menards ,and Lowe's in the area. None of them have the recommended.
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265 2 месяца назад
Hello, I have a camp that I want to make a hearth for. The bottom is 5' by 5' and the back will be 5' by 6'. Do they have a pre-mixed motor that I can use? I am a paraplegic and my camp does not have running water so I am trying to find the easiest way for me. I plan on using 12" by 12" slate tile. This is all for a wood stove to sit on and have back wall protection. Are there any calking gun alternatives? All and any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
@frankiemartinez1755
@frankiemartinez1755 5 месяцев назад
Hey when do you or how do we enter these classes!? We would be happy to be there. 😅
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate Год назад
I use versabond for everything
@raymondjackson6069
@raymondjackson6069 Год назад
Hello, I have a situation with an older house and I intend on redoing the tub surround. I have all the old tile down and intend on using Hardie Board as a backer. THe problem I have ran into is parts of the tub edge is so far from the stud, that the Hardie Board does not sit on it, and would actually slip behind it by about 1/8 to 1/4 inch. This would be the back wall. Then on the wet wall, the studs are actually against the tub edge, and when you put the Hardie board on it, it sits out proud the thickness of the Hardie Board. I know this can't be rare, but how do you handle this. Thanks and thanks for the video. I found it very instructive.
@davidbrown3602
@davidbrown3602 Год назад
Fur out the walls and use a waterproof board
@raymondjackson6069
@raymondjackson6069 Год назад
@@davidbrown3602 OK, fur it out for the gap, but what about the overhang. Then there is the tile that goes to the tup. Is it ok for it to hang in space with that gap between it and the tup wall, and grout at the bottom? Thanks again, pal!
@paulkorolchuk5628
@paulkorolchuk5628 Год назад
Can I use laticrete or mapei modified over Schluter ditra
@21gonza21
@21gonza21 11 месяцев назад
Can LHT thinset be used on drywall that has no redguard?
@randolphmangosing9209
@randolphmangosing9209 24 дня назад
What size of trowel is could use for 4x16 subway wall tiles?
@reyortiz5197
@reyortiz5197 Год назад
what home depot brand thinset should I use for 12x24 porcelain tile for shower wall?. Prolite Premium large format?
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
Yes
@jeffdupre6255
@jeffdupre6255 4 месяца назад
what size of trowel for a 6x 24 plank wall application. also was wondering best thinset to put on kerdi membrane heated floor in shower.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 месяца назад
Probably 3/8” with a backbutter. Maybe 1/2x1/2” depends on how flat the tiles are.
@mcclurep77
@mcclurep77 2 месяца назад
What brand of thinset do you use ?
@skdrcr
@skdrcr 4 месяца назад
Do you back butter large tile if it's for the walls? And are you still using a half inch when you back butter?
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 месяца назад
Usually just a skim on the back of the tile.
@fordford21007
@fordford21007 9 месяцев назад
what is the best modified thinset for installing the RSS shower pan?
@ronpilchowski9898
@ronpilchowski9898 5 месяцев назад
What size notch for 6"×25" porcelain on Kerdi board shower wall?
@dianeunderwood3836
@dianeunderwood3836 Год назад
Have no idea what my contractor used on my tile floor over Ditra membrane because my tiles crack even when a very light object drops on it like a knife. Four drops, four cracks. Perhaps the type of the thinset was incorrect.
@peaceranger7215
@peaceranger7215 Год назад
Kerdi and glass tile ?
@Illsky9
@Illsky9 Месяц назад
Hey man, why don't you move to Florida so I can attend you classes, ha. 😛
@dustinjurceka9550
@dustinjurceka9550 Год назад
Dude! How do I sign up for a class?! How far are you from the Atlanta, GA area?
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 2 месяца назад
Is Schlueter thin secret good for LHT tiles. ?
@Dennis-kj9qx
@Dennis-kj9qx 7 месяцев назад
Do the 12x24 tiles using the 1/2x1/2 trowel need to be back buttered ? ...ANYONE ?
@danielshallal6441
@danielshallal6441 Год назад
Where are you located? To take course.
@bobbys2160
@bobbys2160 Год назад
Do I need a membrane on the walls if I use hydroban on hardibacker walls. I will use a membrane on the shower floor sealed with hydroban
@jbrady5979
@jbrady5979 8 месяцев назад
So you’d recommend LHT on top of Ditra membrane for an 18x18 granite tile?
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 6 месяцев назад
I’d just use laticrete s own decoupling membrane better cheaper and as it’s clear can confirm it’s evenly stuck without lifting for inspection
@spotonndiyvids6065
@spotonndiyvids6065 Год назад
Hi Isaac what you do think of Custom Building Products VersaBond 50 lb. White Fortified Thinset Mortar it’s a homedepot product but the price of $13 is insane cheap but reviews are great I would like your professional opinion thanks.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
I've used Versabond off and on for 20 years! We use the Versabond LFT for 12x24's.
@ExtremeRecluse
@ExtremeRecluse Год назад
I am using modified versabond. It has been 48 hours and it is still wet
@MrStonedgolem
@MrStonedgolem Год назад
Hey where are you located? Really like your videos and been cranking out Tiffany work in Rockland county NY and Bergen county NJ for 10+years. Network?
@ericgonzalez9843
@ericgonzalez9843 Год назад
Where are u located
@Trahloc
@Trahloc Год назад
FYI truwerk is going to a 403 error, google kicks back truewerk.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach Год назад
Oops I misspelled it. www.truewerk.com. Code TILECOACH15. Thanks!!
@paradoxdea
@paradoxdea Год назад
There's a boatload of science & technology that's packed into modified thinset mortar. It dries as hard as cement, so if you're laying tile, please work fast, or it will set up hard.
@davidribeca1745
@davidribeca1745 Год назад
I believe new york subway tunnel have 4 1/4 x4 1/4 tile installed on the walls in a running bond pattern. No sure hoe the 3x6 tile evolved.
@frankcatrini4816
@frankcatrini4816 Год назад
when your speeding thru the tunnel, vision is slighty warped, so a 4-1/4 can look like a 3x6, lol.
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