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What Was Life Like in Silent Hill 2 Before Its Downfall? 

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It's time to delve into a topic that is surprisingly wholesome for SilentHill 2 - what life was like before the town fell to the Overworld and the fog from Toluca Lake. Zoe Delahunty-Light explores what life was like in the town of Silent Hill according to the lore in Silent Hill 2, which has been substantially beefed out by Bloober Team in the SilentHill 2 Remake. What kind of people lived in Woodside Apartments? What would Silent Hill have been like for ordinary inhabitants? what did Silent Hill look like before? Watch and find out...
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@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 18 часов назад
The amount of detail in the game is ridiculous. SH feels like a real place that I can visit. Every room in the apartments, hospital, prison etc. all feel varied and lived in.
@dr.chungusphd108
@dr.chungusphd108 16 часов назад
Ya im blown away with what Bloober Team has done here, I was positive it was going to be terrible. Now they need to get the performance taken care of.
@widease
@widease 14 часов назад
Agreed
@eurogamer
@eurogamer 10 часов назад
Completely agree 🥹 Zoe
@GramdalfFGC
@GramdalfFGC 18 часов назад
If I'm right isn't Silent Hill just a normal town? Like it has people living it, James takes his wife there. There are 3 versions of the town The real town - Just a normal Town, people live here, people holiday here. The fog town - this is like the first layer of the other world. it's the town but abandoned. there is a thick fog everywhere, potentially monster as well, depending on who you are. The nightmare - the deepest part of silent hill. when everything gets really bad. This is just my interpretation but throughout Silent Hill 2, James is never in the real town, he's always at least in the dream fog version. I think the idea of it being a normal town makes it creepier, imagine you are a normal person living in your woodside apartment and right now someone is in your apartment fighting some unspeakable horror in a dimension you can't even perceive at all.
@KittyKatt_Luna80s
@KittyKatt_Luna80s 17 часов назад
Laura sees it as a normal town. 😊 She's the only one out of the five (live) protagonists who hasn't done anything wrong. James killed Mary. Maria is a monster in disguise, but Mary (who she emulated) was implied to have become abùsive towards James as her illness got worse. Angela killed her father and brother (but they were both r@pists). Eddie killed his bully's dog (implied to be related to Mira in the Dog Ending, hence she growled at his picture). The worst that Laura did was step on James' hand, going "Ha Ha".
@dchmpayne
@dchmpayne 16 часов назад
Yes you are right Silent Hill exists as a normal town with ppl living there. It always has. After the events of Silent Hill 1, with the doors to the other worlds open, it began to experience a high level of missing persons cases, but otherwise the town was still functional. It's was never abandoned. It was the movie that claimed it as a ghost town. In both silent Hill 3 and 4 you get hints that it's not the quaint little town it used to be, but it's also not an abandoned ghost town either.
@ChrisAlbertH47
@ChrisAlbertH47 14 часов назад
Depending on which source you use as reference, it experienced a catastrophic economic crash as a result of the failing coal mines. Some said there was a fire that eventually shut down the mines for good, cutting off the town from one of its major sources of revenue. There was tourism, but the after the incident it supposedly never truly recovered. So even in the "real world" as opposed to the dark world, Silent Hill was a dying town. Sure, they might've been people still living there, but the dilapidation of the town wasn't just the reflection of the visitor's psyche. The problem is in knowing exactly when, in relation to James' experiences, this crash happened. We don't really know how long ago James and Mary went there. Could've been 3 years or maybe even longer.
@revanninja
@revanninja 14 часов назад
Yes there is 2 Silent Hills. The Real world is just a normal town where people live and so on with no supernatural monsters. The Second Silent Hill is the one where the games take place and it is the doorstep into the other realm. The Nightmare is actually still the second Silent Hill but the point of where it sits on that doorstep has changed. In the "Normal" silent hill its sitting on the side closest to our world and the "Nightmare" Silent Hill is sitting closer to the other side. And while each Silent Hill game shows different monsters and locations they are all the same Silent Hill. Silent Hill shapes itself around the person inside of it James Angela and Eddie all see very different forms of Silent Hill with only Laura being unaffected because Laura is innocent she hasnt committed a Sin unlike everyone else. You have to Sin or be connected to someone called in to enter Silent Hill. That is why James and Cybill for example get yanked in despite not having done anything they were in Cybill's case wrong place and time while James's daughter was connected to the Cult so when she got yanked he got pulled in with her.
@CristianePereira-r4x
@CristianePereira-r4x 11 часов назад
​@@revanninja James' daughter?
@dchmpayne
@dchmpayne 16 часов назад
Silent Hill exists as a normal town with ppl living there. It always has. After the events of Silent Hill 1, with the doors to the other worlds open after Alyssa's passing, it began to experience a high level of missing persons cases. People both in the Town and driving through it would and could get pulled into the "purgatory Fog world" due to trama and guilt, the foundations for its creation, but otherwise the town was still functional. It's was never truly abandoned. It was the movie that claimed it as a ghost town. In both silent Hill 3 and 4 you get hints that it's not the quaint little town it used to be, but it's also not an abandoned ghost town either. The Fog world is a representation of Silent hill created by the memories of both Alyessa before she was burned, and the individual that is trapped. Its why it looks stuck in a specific time. If you look at the clocks in SH2 remake they are all stuck at 9:10
@Subject98
@Subject98 12 часов назад
This game took me 27 hours to finish because I kept slowing down to study the environments. Insane how they expanded on all the locations in the game and yet the vast majority of it provides new things to see. One of my personal favorite rooms in the game is at Wood Side Apartments, the back office where the puzzle box is. The somber music that swells when you examine the box combined with the lighting and dust covered furniture, that's one of the spots where the atmosphere transcends even the original Silent Hill 2 for me.
@eurogamer
@eurogamer 10 часов назад
Completely agree, there is SO much detail I didn't even touch on here. Thanks for watching! Zoe
@burtwonk
@burtwonk 7 часов назад
@@Subject98 same. I’m like a tourist these days, especially with remakes. My RE4 and FF7 rebirth play times were absurdly long…
@tauriusmagnamus3281
@tauriusmagnamus3281 17 часов назад
MORE SILENT HILL LORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@eurogamer
@eurogamer 10 часов назад
NOTED TY FOR WATCHING!!! Zoe
@jeffcarrier9808
@jeffcarrier9808 16 часов назад
Now how often do we see games with these kinds of pieces done about them? Some channels are into double digit videos about this game in the past week. As a SH fan from the very beginning this has been a dream come true.
@jarlwhiterun7478
@jarlwhiterun7478 14 часов назад
An*
@jeffcarrier9808
@jeffcarrier9808 11 часов назад
@@jarlwhiterun7478 SH = "Silent Hill"
@burtwonk
@burtwonk 9 часов назад
I think Silent Hill 2 takes place in the 80s, not the 90s. There is a receipt in the pharmacy near the beginning that says 1982. Even if it was out of date, the types of cars, record players, and television sets are more consistent with what was available then. The computers look like the kind that were common in the 90s, but would more similar to the Apple II. I haven’t finished the game yet though so I may be missing more details about the timing.
@jazzlaugh6578
@jazzlaugh6578 8 часов назад
This is incorrect, there was no downfall. Silent Hill is still a functioning town divided into different dimensions. The regular town that's completely normal and pedestrian, people live there, life as normal. The fog town, which is a different dimension certain people find themselves in. And the Otherworld, which is the full-blown crazy nightmare dimension. Based purely on the lore of the original 4, Silent Hill never had a downfall and the town is still perfectly fine. MASSIVE SPOILER WARNING FOR SILENT HILL 2! STOP READING IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE STORY!! James kills Mary directly before the events of Silent Hill 2, most likely the same day the game begins. Her body is in the back seat of his car. Before the town distorted his memory, James planned on driving his car into the lake with Mary and having a water burial for the both of them. This is confirmed in the In Water ending, and not conflicted by any of the other endings or events in canon. Mary was only permitted a short stay at home to say goodbye because she was beyond recovery. The hospital she was staying at was Brookhaven, as stated in her true letter, the one she reads at the end which is unaltered by the town. The town can't possibly be abandoned, Mary was in Brookhaven and being taken care of by doctors literal days before the events of Silent Hill 2. Learn your lore, stop spreading misinformation Edit to correct myself: Mary was not a patient at Brookhaven, my bad. This has been declared false by Masahiro Ito. That being said, there exists evidence the town never had a "downfall" and still functions.
@beagle626
@beagle626 7 часов назад
mary wasn’t a patient at brookhaven or in silent hill at all. The game talks about her wanting james to take her back to silent hill a bunch haha. not to mention brookhaven is a mental hospital. nowhere in her letter does she mention staying at brookhaven hospital.
@jazzlaugh6578
@jazzlaugh6578 7 часов назад
@@beagle626 Incorrect, read the actual letter again. "In my restless dreams, I see that town. Silent Hill. You promised you'd take me there again some day, but you never did. Well, I'm alone there now... in our 'special place'... waiting for you... waiting for you to come see me. But you never do. And so I wait, wrapped in my cocoon of pain and loneliness." And the letter continues. That's in the true letter, the real one Mary told the nurses to give James after her death. Later in the letter she mentions the doctors allowing her to go home for a short stay because she won't recover, so she's still in a hospital. It wouldn't make any sense for Mary to be in Alchemilla, since Old Silent Hill is quite far away, as indicated by the signs above the road at the beginning of the game. So that leaves Brookhaven. And Brookhaven was not exclusively a mental hospital. Her saying she wanted James to take her back there is her talking about how she wanted to go back there for a romantic getaway like before. Get your lore right.
@beagle626
@beagle626 7 часов назад
@@jazzlaugh6578 she’s daydreaming in her hospital bed. unless you are saying her hospital bed is her “special place” she’s not literally in silent hill when she says that. james goes to see her plenty of times in the hospital where she is staying. silent hill is a place they would vacation, it wouldn’t make sense for her to being staying at a hospital there anyway. she was probably at a hospital is South Ashfield where James is from and where Harry lives in SH4
@jazzlaugh6578
@jazzlaugh6578 7 часов назад
@@beagle626 so she's waiting for him to come visit her in her daydream? Is that what you're saying? She calls it their "special place" because in the words of James: "this whole town was our special place." It makes just as much sense that she'd be in a hospital there as anywhere else.
@beagle626
@beagle626 7 часов назад
@@jazzlaugh6578 yes literally that’s what she is saying. she literally starts the letter with “in my restless dreams i see that town”. why would she be in a hospital at the resort town she visits on occasion and apparently hasn’t been to in a while as opposed to where she lives. i know it’s somewhat metaphorical what’s she’s doing but she’s dreaming about her being in silent hill and james coming to see her. not james visiting her in the hospital, which as is shown elsewhere in the game and even later in the letter is something james has done often across the three years she’s been ill.
@christianliteratus
@christianliteratus 4 часа назад
I love videos like this about the details in a certain game. Please make more Eurogamer
@UnchartedMonkey1
@UnchartedMonkey1 13 часов назад
This game and everything about it is just creepy. We thought Bloober would drop the ball and ruin a legacy. Silent Hill 2 with all its flaws from 2001 was and still is revered as one of the best games ever made. We have first timers with the remake and veteran's of the old game picking the remake apart piece by piece. I believe the remake is good enough to stand on it's own, but the original will always be better. I guess it's due to me having the original and playing it when it released. I have played SH2 on PS2 and PC, as well as the remake on PS5. I really like the remake and am still creeped out. It's unsettling, unnerving, and actual scary. We've get a normal guy in a very messed up world trying to survive and come to grips with his own life. We're not the Doomslayer with loads of guns, or the John Wick style Leon S Kennedy. A normal dude with no combat experience fighting monsters with a handful of bullets and boards and pipes. Well, a board and a pipe rather. Sure we get a shotgun and a rifle later, but, the ammo is so scarce it's better used on the biggest of baddies. Point is. This game is fantastic and well worth the visit to Silent Hill in 2024. Well done Bloober. Now if we could just get that performance and stuttering ironed out. I'm hoping later updates help it. I play on Performance mode on my PS5. The sudden jarring of what seems to be a real time loading sequence in a game with little to no loading screens sometimes ruins the immersion for me, then something jumps out of nowhere and gets me scared again. It's vicious give and take. Maybe Bloober crafted this or maybe it's hardware hiccups, either way. Good job at to a company who we all thought would drop the ball, it wasn't dropped but maybe slightly overcooked?. Here is hoping we get Silent Hill 1 and 3 remade next. It is surreal to imagine that with this presentation Bloober gave us. Silent Hill feels like a real place again.
@furynvm
@furynvm 11 часов назад
who is we
@catsadilla324
@catsadilla324 17 минут назад
Why would the colors red and white together be bad luck when they clearly evoke a sense of.... commitment.... honesty..... integrity.
@danibethea3425
@danibethea3425 12 часов назад
The whisper room of 209 in both games would connect well with this video too. Either the tenant is still haunting the room or we're hearing whispers of the power the town holds within it (or an admixture of both.) Since the games came out in 2001, many have been trying to deciper what the voice is saying and its inclusion once again I don't think is just mere homage/coincidence. With more of the town to explore, we've been able to see more of the cult's influence, truly disturbed people who lived in the town, and the darkness simmering underneath.
@SantoAtheos
@SantoAtheos 14 часов назад
Thank you Zoe for the deep lore!
@ancientandbored
@ancientandbored 12 часов назад
Entertaining but the habitants of the apartments were "handpicked illusions",a way the town was reminding James and Eddie what they have done... Specially the room with the football posters (Eddie's bully was a football player).... PLEASE don't start fake lore like the one when the movie was released! We still have people thinking the game was based in the real town Centralia!
@GhostyChives
@GhostyChives 3 часа назад
I always just considered what James was seeing was all in his head. The "monsters" he was killing were actual people, he just saw them as grotesque female monsters, always female. This is heavily hinted at in the OG with the news report about a woman being killed in an "alley way," the same alley way James has his first combat encounter, in the OG.
@deaconstj19
@deaconstj19 11 часов назад
Wait a second! Im new to Silent Hill lore. After finishing the game (incredible, btw) I looked up a couple of things and one of them was the town itself. Theres supposedly three layers or "realms" of the town, right? The normal, real world. The fog world. And the otherwold. I thought that the normal and real was, well, that. So, its abandoned then? And what the other games?
@eurogamer
@eurogamer 10 часов назад
Yes! So there's the real world, which is the world we all live in. The fog world is a twisted ish version of that world, moulded to suit whoever is in Silent Hill (everyone 'sees' something different - Eddie, Angela, and James all see different surroundings). The fog comes from Toluca Lake and is fascinating in itself. Then there's the Otherworld, which is when Silent Hill shifts into the hellish dangerous version where everything looks rusty (through James's eyes). The lore is FASCINATING; that's a super simple explanation! Zoe
@deaconstj19
@deaconstj19 9 часов назад
@@eurogamer Thank you :)
@arandomelle484
@arandomelle484 16 часов назад
Zoe, a streamer friend of mine, Sam, played a great demo yesterday for "Below, Rusted Gods" due out next year and we were saying it seems like there'd be some super interesting lore in it that you would love!
@eurogamer
@eurogamer 10 часов назад
Noted 👀 thanks Elle! Zoe
@widease
@widease 14 часов назад
I played it all night. Game is amazing. Honestly, it's a contender for game of the year and horror games never win. But being honest, it will probably be wokong
@ChrisAlbertH47
@ChrisAlbertH47 14 часов назад
The only thing the town was missing was Arcades, but it did mention a theme park outside of the town proper.
@Ellesdy1
@Ellesdy1 14 часов назад
I was just playing in the arcade area on Robocop thinking that they would be well placed in Silent Hill 2 with a creepier coat of paint...
@1x93cm
@1x93cm 8 часов назад
i really hope they remake SH1 and SH3 again.
@adolfbilic8622
@adolfbilic8622 14 часов назад
Masterpiece . One of the rare games that leaves you thinking and emotional after its over .
@mrroblinx
@mrroblinx 16 часов назад
What downfall? People still live there in the real world
@jarlwhiterun7478
@jarlwhiterun7478 14 часов назад
Nope, try again
@rickybarrett8214
@rickybarrett8214 14 часов назад
This has always confused me!
@fordv-e3c
@fordv-e3c 14 часов назад
I’m confused as well, do people live there? Why is a lil girl just in the town if it’s completely empty but wouldn’t we see people when James isn’t in the other world… idk
@luellai1966
@luellai1966 14 часов назад
y’all the town has layers of reality. Like an onion
@colingomez5934
@colingomez5934 13 часов назад
Silent hill is abandoned. People used to live there but don't anymore. Team silent has confirmed this.
@Archetype_M3T4L
@Archetype_M3T4L 14 часов назад
Wait P.T.V? PT might be a coincidence
@quinnzykir
@quinnzykir 3 часа назад
It just looks like London during a football game
@Markpaul9
@Markpaul9 2 часа назад
It's Centralia, approx 3000 people
@sheyshah2848
@sheyshah2848 15 часов назад
The thumbnail looks EXACTLY like MMA fighter Luke Rockhold.
@dcc0209
@dcc0209 7 часов назад
Bring back VR Corner!
@quinnzykir
@quinnzykir 3 часа назад
Reminds me of Winona Minnesota
@syphrus23
@syphrus23 9 часов назад
I was thinking during and after the events on SH1, towns people just vanished. Depending how far from the epicenter and within fogs range, half of South Vale inhabitants disappeared. Thinking of it as a curse, they closed shop and sealed off the town. It shows many locations of items left behind where they used to sit, collecting dust. Maybe the town sealed itself off instead of the inhabitants because who would leave "We com!", I mean, "Welcome!" at the gate. After Alessa's end, Silent Hill became a living entity and is very manipulative of its surroundings. Its why Laura can only see an abandoned town with fog, no otherworld and no monsters anywhere. Here's a question: How did Laura make it to the Hotel? Walking? Ghost Ferry? A Bus? Maybe that lost boat guy rowed her there.
@michaelbuddy
@michaelbuddy 13 часов назад
needs to be VR
@ubercomrade
@ubercomrade 2 часа назад
Zooey Deschanel you sound cool
@paulwoodford1984
@paulwoodford1984 15 часов назад
Incredibly generic remake
@mattybadass
@mattybadass 15 часов назад
Explain?
@adolfbilic8622
@adolfbilic8622 14 часов назад
The remake is an absolute masterpiece. You have an agenda .
@paulwoodford1984
@paulwoodford1984 14 часов назад
@@adolfbilic8622 no, a masterpiece would mean it was perfect and it’s far from perfect. poor art direction, generic boring gameplay we have seen countless times before. lots of rooms and shops can’t be entered into. On rails linear paths where there is nothing to see but blandness. hand holding the whole way.
@adolfbilic8622
@adolfbilic8622 14 часов назад
I would say it is the best horror game ever made. There is none other like it that has a creeping dread that gets under your skin . It is far from generic. If anything it is a unique blend of amazing music, visuals, setting, story and atmosphere . It is one of the only games in history that has such a deep story that will stay with many players long after the game has finished . No other game has the atmosphere this game has . It's a depressing journey but an amazing one at the same time . This is more than game, it is art and a journey into the dark parts of the soul but you obviously wouldn't understand that .
@Archetype_M3T4L
@Archetype_M3T4L 14 часов назад
I would say it’s good I played the original back then too.
@sirencall11
@sirencall11 9 часов назад
oh man I wish you would have used the no fog pc mod for this it would have been perfect
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