What We Learned in the First 30 Games of the 2023-24 NBA Season | Tim Legler & JJ Redick

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We are always psyched to welcome in our good friend Tim Legler to talk all things NBA. It's been roughly 30 games and we can start drawing some real analysis from this season. So what have we learned and what are we looking at for the rest of the season? Topics include: JJ on Derrick White playing like an NBA All Star, do the Philadelphia 76ers need to win an NBA championship to validate Joel Embiid's amazing play? Also, does you need to have an elite defense to win an NBA championship and more on the offensive explosion this year, Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers coming down to earth after the IST, how James Harden is adjusting to playing with Kawhi Leonard, Paul George and the Los Angeles Clippers, should the Oklahoma City Thunder make a trade? And finally, why Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown and the Boston Celtics are the best team in basketball right now. Rundown below!
00:00 - Start of show
01:18 - JJ on his "Derrick White is an All-Star" viral tweet
16:05 - Legler joins the show!
16:42 - Joel Embiid
33:55 - The NBA offensive explosion
53:27 - The Pacers coming down to earth
59:42 - James Harden, Kawhi Leonard and The Clippers
01:07:22 - Should OKC make a trade?
01:13:28 - The Boston Celtics are the best team in basketball
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@YetiCoolBrother 5 месяцев назад

Just wanna say I really enjoy JJ & RJ as the commentary during games, yall should be doing The Finals IMO

@pieman737 5 месяцев назад

Beats Mark Jackson and Doris by a mile

@1Jmil 5 месяцев назад

you know espn is gonna give the job to raspy Doc

@kevinpankanin6222 5 месяцев назад

Naw RJ doesn't do anything but mess up the flow of the discussion and joke and banter. Good for a media segment but not for a game

@haydensthoma 5 месяцев назад

💯

@Bpongs22 5 месяцев назад

Harlem, JJ, and RJ is as good as it gets. Nothing will ever be better

@Sillyfishy1313 5 месяцев назад

The combination of breakdown between analytics, eye test opinions and basketball experience is just 👌🏿

@vaughanb6299 5 месяцев назад

JJ as a celtics fan I just want to thank you for the love you give D white. When the team traded Smart I knew White was going to shine.

@emdeezy7529 5 месяцев назад

He’s the reason they were willing to trade smart he outplayed him on both sides of the ball last year

@sitonmuhdeckasshole 5 месяцев назад

Derrick White's way better than Jaylen Brown, change my mind.

@skylergreathouse2319 5 месяцев назад

He ball(d)in for real

@holidayarmadillo8653 5 месяцев назад

@@emdeezy7529ur not lying 👌🏽

@emdeezy7529 5 месяцев назад

@@sitonmuhdeckasshole no need to change your mind, you have your opinion, but I’ll take the all nba guy, love Derrick white but his ceiling isn’t as high as JB, he’s in a perfect role currently so he’s flourishing

@MeaningfulPossessions 5 месяцев назад

I love when JJ Redick x Tim Legler collab.

@JiggsHD 5 месяцев назад

As far as embiid goes not only do we need to gove props to the roster put together but nick nurse is a massive game changer. Deserves more credit.

@sitonmuhdeckasshole 5 месяцев назад

I thought it was crazy the Bucks and Suns didn't go after him, massive mistake. They'd probably be title favorites if they did. It was weird he wasn't recognized as the best coach available by far. Celtics should have too frankly.

@JiggsHD 5 месяцев назад

@sitonmuhdeckasshole bucks did but he turned the job down because one of his guys was offered it. Or at least that's what I read

@davidwood8477 5 месяцев назад

I think Pat Bev deserves some 💐 too

@RandomNumber6598 5 месяцев назад

Tim is absolutely right. Look at the shots that guys are making, completely contested many times. Defensive philosophy might have change, but guys are just so good at shooting now.

@Marlowe10100 5 месяцев назад

I don't see that. I see people standing and shooting wide open.

@trey_baker 5 месяцев назад

@@Marlowe10100 I think the NBA offense has gotten so much better but I also think the league discourages players from playing defense. Defenders are heavily penalised for being physical or even making slight contact. Refs favor offensive players

@RandomNumber6598 5 месяцев назад

@@Marlowe10100 that’s because the spacing has gotten so absurd with the extra shooting threat on the court and the emphasis on the 3

@Augrills 5 месяцев назад

@@RandomNumber6598 also a lot of players are mixed now so you get athleticism and shooting ability in one player

@matthewburke5044 4 месяца назад

@@Marlowe10100you have to watch the games unless you are just bias to the 90s and before. All the big could stay where they were comfortable. Dam near all those "enforcers" back then wouldn't be in the league today. You have to be able to shoot to get alot of minutes today. All those dam bigs besides a few wouldn't be on this defensive level if they played today. The players are by far more skilled especially shooting. Reggie Miller was the second best guard for a few years. He wouldn't even be a top 10 guard today.

@louiematarazzo 5 месяцев назад

Love these 2 together. Fascinating breakdowns of the league and have been a fan of legs analysis for years

@manuel007dragon 5 месяцев назад

I think that a lot of people simply haven’t watched any Celtics games because White has been the best player on the team on multiple and consecutive games (and yes, WAY better than Tatum and Brown). Maybe some people are on their feelings because a role player has been better than some teams star players.

@mykaelmarshall8204 5 месяцев назад

I’d put my money on a Celtics Denver finals.

@vukaleksic3550 5 месяцев назад

who do you sit out of the all star game? lillard, maxey, brunson, trae or haliburton? white’s been great but he’s not more deserving than any of these five guys, unfortunately

@mikeomalley2460 5 месяцев назад

You’re right and it’s for two things: 1: the Jays are viewed as the “big two” of the team, who’ve been here the longest and done the most over this new era. 2: Derrick isn’t as flashy of a player, and you need flashy to draw the eyes. Whether that be logo 3s, dominance in the paint, or slick handles. Derrick is balling without being flashy, so people outside the Boston fan base underestimate him.

@nocturne311 5 месяцев назад

@@vukaleksic3550 Trae.

@kaitsu1952 5 месяцев назад

@@vukaleksic3550over trae easily if the hawks are still under 50% by late january and if Boston and Derrick keep this form up. That's just how it goes with team success

@jonathanjean4280 5 месяцев назад

Love how these guys include basketball in NBA conversation. Too many TV personalities can’t do this

@phillydrilz 5 месяцев назад

tf? what person on earth doesn’t “include basketball” when talking about the NBA🤣🤣

@albericponcedeleon2696 5 месяцев назад

@@phillydrilzpresumably he means "talk about X's and O's and what actually happens on the court" as opposed to the constant "narrative and agenda pushing" that happens on TV. I enjoy both but major media outlets have been terrible at balancing the two sides of discussion.

@phillydrilz 5 месяцев назад

@@albericponcedeleon2696 you’re probably right, he just ain’t word it good. & Correct, most people on tv don’t go in depth at all. They just talk about the basics like pts/rbs/asts and wins or losses.

@connormclaren5134 5 месяцев назад

These two together just works

@johnathancena5067 5 месяцев назад

As a Boston fan Derrick white has became my favorite player after last year and even more so this year GET THAT MAN AN ALL STAR SPOT!

@dvdv8197 5 месяцев назад

Agreed, but also 'has become'*. 😊

@dmitryowens 5 месяцев назад

Players who only average 17 ppg don't deserve to make the All-Star team. White is a good role player but not a top tier player.

@coachmarv7631 5 месяцев назад

In 2013 I did my dissertation on the introduction of the zone defense to the nba and whether it has negated the need for a dominant low post scorer in order to win. Some added findings were fascinating; - theres a correlation to the zone introduction and teams adding more "shot creators". - early offense has become far more potent because anyone who is catching the D Board is pushing it, often because the added 3pt attempts means longer rebounds and so bigs push the ball to guards up the floor, meaning early-offense has more wings/guards making choices to score: higher efficiency - the pinch/high post is far more potent on catches than the low block under these rules. Its better spacing and teams get the ball reversal and swing swing far easier. - low post scoring was just as important as ever, but it came/comes on drives and less from "dominant big post players". I.e low post scoring is just as needed, but stretch bigs, earlier offense and higher P&R action mean the points are spread between the five "positions". Long story short I determined that essentially the NBA is you win because you executed what you were good at better than the oppoenent executed what they were good at (no matter the play style), and defense is pivitol in key spells throughout a game. LOVE the pod and their discussions ❤🏀

@djdoc06 5 месяцев назад

I assume by “introduction of the zone”, you mean the “zone rule” changes where everybody used to have to guard somebody and you couldn’t double off the ball… Because most defenses are still variations of man defense, right?

@coachmarv7631 5 месяцев назад

@djdoc06 yeah, essentially post 2002 when matchup zones were permitted. Full "zones" are tough to implement because the defensive 3 seconds is still so strongly imposed, but teams run more zone now than ever, even if only for stretches of 4 or 5 possessions at a time. Still fascinating all around 😊

@romeobodeodo 5 месяцев назад

JJ and Legler are the two best commentators, and the best to listen to talking hoops. Immensely enjoyable.

@mctaguer 5 месяцев назад

As for Embiid, look, I despise the guy, think he's soft AF come playoff time... and the dude is COMPLETELY worthy of MVP right now (and his team is doing great). More deserving than he was last season. He's playing at an ultra-elite level and the best he's ever played. That's just the truth. It is what it is.

@Jerm0116 5 месяцев назад

Celtics really have no excuse not to win the title this year. This team is loaded with talent heads above any other team in the league.

@JuanCenar 5 месяцев назад

No excuse for the past 3 years either

@dvdv8197 5 месяцев назад

They'll choke again, imho. 😅🙈

@gerardrazulcarim4922 5 месяцев назад

@@JuanCenar injuries? broken wrist in Finals 2022, sprained ankle in ECF G7 2023.

@thomasdanielson7383 5 месяцев назад

Timberwolves

@dirkcallaway 5 месяцев назад

Nuggets

@jp_ysoseri0us154 5 месяцев назад

You and legs are IT! Love your chemistry and your bball knowledge compliment each other well. Big fan

@Thurokiir1 5 месяцев назад

Keep standing up for rational and reasonable discourse in the NBA JJ! You've made becoming a fan of the NBA a truly exceptional experience. Thank you.

@eddielee4428 5 месяцев назад

Kudos to 76ers management in getting Nick Nurse, moving Harden, gave them new life to be the best version of the 76ers.

@simonvardy249 5 месяцев назад

Big fan of the show mate. From another basketball nut, i really enjoy when you guys analysis and break down each team and great players. I also love, when you, Legs and RJ get together, great chemistry with each other. How about, mid season breakdown with You, Legs and RJ. Big fan from Oz 🇦🇺. Love ya work mate, keep it up

@peytoncole3 5 месяцев назад

You guys made great points Joel is great and yeah he has been injured a lot in the playoffs but when he does play he’ll sometimes look for those calls that are only called in the regular season he’s done that so much it’s just part of his play style once he stops that there’s nothing stopping him

@vlada 5 месяцев назад

He did it in a recent loss. Could have gone up to score winning basket from 2-3 ft with little time left, decided to flop instead. The ref didn't call it, game over. It's engrained in him to flop....

@snoopraptor 5 месяцев назад

I think this is maybe what a lot of people who aren't Philly fans don't understand. I'm not denying he's a great player, but he's SO frustrating to watch. I liken it to prime James Harden, some of the best offensive seasons of all time, but boy does it suck to watch someone shoot, flop, shoot free throws over and over and over. Now Embiid also is a great defender, but he's also 7 feet and like 280, you do not need to hit the floor 15 times a game!! And it shows in the playoffs, where the calls get tighter, and he becomes far less effective.

@andy0519 5 месяцев назад

Joel Embiid finally has a coach that knows basketball, that is the main reason

@jgates9786 5 месяцев назад

I didn't know there were top 15, championship head coaches that didn't know basketball, but you learn something new every day

@andy0519 5 месяцев назад

@@jgates9786 You really are making a case for Doc Rivers? Who has made his career solely on riding Pierce,Garnett,Allen and Rondo's backs for years?

@andy0519 5 месяцев назад

@@jgates9786 you put my dog as head coach of that team and they win a championship

@jgates9786 5 месяцев назад

@@andy0519 I'm not making a case. He was literally named a top 15 head coach of all time. He's also done a lot more than just win a championship. I guess he just rode the Celtics core that was perpetually injured come playoff time to top 10 all time in wins as a coach, huh?

@stevenmoore3381 5 месяцев назад

Love these episodes

@laney423 5 месяцев назад

12:45 not even tryna be a biased celtics fan but jj is right. not 1 person has talked about how good dwhite was in that atlanta series

@champoopapi 5 месяцев назад

love the legler episodes 🔥

@Sinklebarn 5 месяцев назад

Love these two together

@Trevor_Schindler 5 месяцев назад

Aye JJ. Love your stuff man. Keepnup the great work. Between you and Gils Arena my nights are full listening to yall.

@kingX777 5 месяцев назад

Gil’s podcast is fun to watch but his takes are trash 80% of the time.

@tristentruitt-xe7mk 5 месяцев назад

Jj is right it’s tougher to be an all star now more than ever it would be nice to see some of these players showcase their talents on their own team or different situation. My opinion I think it’s time to expand the league again and it’s long overdue

@penkima4923 5 месяцев назад

There are rules put in place to prevent load-management. And even with the load-management used today, several players are having huge problems staying healthy. There's an IST-tournament and a play-in tournament now. The 82-game season is too long. We should compact the league, not expand. Maybe that would also lift the defense up from the gutter it's in right now. Flashier game isn't as much needed. The league's popularity is really good already.

@AB-qp2tm 5 месяцев назад

The one thing I will say about Derrick White and counting stats regarding ASG selections, White is putting up 16.5 ppg in 2023, in 2005 terms that 16.5 ppg is more like 11ppg back then (considering the amount that are averaging 25+ and "point inflation" in our current era).

@xaviershelviejohnson5771 5 месяцев назад

Facts

@Yeahdoh 5 месяцев назад

Thank you brother, this is the best basketball talk out there

@jayraider521614 5 месяцев назад

Derrick White really should be an All Star. When you watch games it's really obvious

@Shortballa11 5 месяцев назад

He's rlly good but the question will always be, who doesnt make it then? Dame, Haliburton, Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese maxey? All those guys are the 1st or 2nd best player on their team. So tell me who doesnt make it?

@IamnotfromUSA 5 месяцев назад

They could have 5 all stars on that team

@JP-jd8wr 5 месяцев назад

Not to some of these casuals

@dmitryowens 5 месяцев назад

Having role players who average less than 20 ppg and/or 10 rpg or apg defeats the purpose of having an All-Star game - may as well change the name to the All Role Player game if we start doing that.

@danwindsor770 5 месяцев назад

How True. I worry less about Defense this year. Knicks were # 1 Defense on Dec 5th when they played the Bucks. They gave up 146. Then the Rockets were #2 on Dec 18 and the Bucks, ( having a bad day) hung 128.

@derekbaker3265 5 месяцев назад

Best basketball podcast ever! Congrats on 1M subscribers

@DaveThree 5 месяцев назад

Congrats on hitting 1M sub!

@handle7454 5 месяцев назад

Love this duo so much man

@nelsonmandela3150 5 месяцев назад

Jj you're the best broadcaster out there but please give my Wolves some love!I feel you barely talked about the best in the West since the beggining of the season!

@matthieusaade3616 5 месяцев назад

21:45 in non media term, Embiid can move you and commit offensive fouls but the second you breathe in him it's freethrows. Give Embiid the same calls as Embiid and he's not averaging 30

@davidcarter6491 5 месяцев назад

Yay Derrick White should be an all star!

@adamjonsson 5 месяцев назад

Love that your standing up for Derrick White, he does not receive nearly enough love in the NBA world.

@Jonteponte71 5 месяцев назад

He's like the NBA hipster choice for all star. Like being early on Jokic. Before the MVP's. It's probably not going to happen this year. But if he is great in the playoffs again (and Celtics win) it might happen next year. Similar to Murray in Denver.

@Witness1230 5 месяцев назад

Wish we get Tim weekly 😊

@mollari1560 5 месяцев назад

Embiid has missed 5 games up to this point. Every single one of them coincidently was a road game against an above .500 opponent. i hope this is just a coincidence and not a pattern.

@penkima4923 5 месяцев назад

At some point, he was avoiding playing versus Jokic. There was another strange incident involving a fake injury as well, but I can't recall the details.

@MrGroove0221 5 месяцев назад

Legs and JJ.... MUST SEE TV!!!!

@AntiGrav1ty88 5 месяцев назад

Embiid doesn't need to win a chip this year but he needs at least a couple of signature playoff performances. He hasn't even had a single truly great playoff series.

@SOGSPORTSYT 5 месяцев назад

huh

@grindpumpkin 5 месяцев назад

😢😢😢😢

@Danny24 5 месяцев назад

Love ya guys

@skii7602 5 месяцев назад

Been waiting on this jj

@rwhite28 5 месяцев назад

JJ & Legz - best duo in basketball

@tombombadil9546 5 месяцев назад

Best content on the channel - this & the RJ show

@zoodk33rt 5 месяцев назад

Name another bench player from last year other than Derrick White to win player of the week? He did this last year and everybody just ignored it!

@penkima4923 5 месяцев назад

Bobby Portis. He came off the bench for one game, the week he won the award. Derrick White started every game, the week he won the award.

@ratcomedy 5 месяцев назад

Player of the week!?!? No way

@treyfitz-gerald6921 5 месяцев назад

Need more nuggets talk from JJ / Legs / OM3

@djdoc06 5 месяцев назад

Pre-analytic shot selection was like picking batting lineups without access to batting averages or other stats: “oh he looks big and strong, let HIM bat cleanup. Plus the fact that the players and coaches had such a flawed perception of the value of the 3 point shot, means that they undervalued the shot, and never exploited the way it creates spacing. And modern spacing with the 3 turns any ball handler into Magic Johnson, because you’re always surrounded by multiple targets that can put the ball in at a .500 or better efg.

@brandoncheese1 4 месяца назад

I love Tim basketball brain and JJ is hilarious.. if I could subscribe again I would.

@jc6950 5 месяцев назад

JJ, You & Legler are basketball nerd heaven. Sign that man to a max deal for three four two

@MaksimmmTheGreat 5 месяцев назад

One of JJ's best attributes as a podcast host and a commentator of the game is that he experienced, first hand, the brilliance and significance of some of the best players in the league and league's history. Understanding and experiencing the positives that come with playing alongside superstars like Embiid gives casuals like us a true understanding of their singularity.

@MaksimmmTheGreat 5 месяцев назад

&Legler of course.

@SGASZN 5 месяцев назад

NBA players doing podcasts 🔥

@laurendelosreyes9615 5 месяцев назад

as an embiid hater I have to admit he is the best player so far this season. having a great coach and a more cohesive team helped him become even better. he deserves the mvp if the season ended today. playoffs are a different story though. i think they will do better in the playoffs because of nick nurse, we'll have to wait and see. the guy averages 30+pts in the regular season and 23pts in the playoffs and shoots 20% from 3 in the playoffs. he cant flop in the playoffs because refs dont call it doesnt help either. and derick white has been the best player on the celtics for several games. he's a "role" player who outshines their stars in a lot of games.

@Walrus286 5 месяцев назад

He’s gonna have to get thru the Celtics in the playoffs and that’s a tall task for anybody

@B1ackchi 5 месяцев назад

Tim said it best. That idea of needing to be a lock down team on defense is out the window. Scoring is much easier in today’s game. We are now use to seeing scores in high 130s and 140s likes it’s a normal thing now. In the playoffs, it comes down to being able to make the shots when they count now.

@costasmanoleas3527 5 месяцев назад

JJ, how about Jrew case? Guarding the best opposite team’s player including Giannis and Embid?

@sydneydance 5 месяцев назад

Giannis had the most legendary championship run in my mind because he damn near had his leg broken off with that hyperextended knee and made a miraculous recovery to come back in the finals 🦵💪 Legler forgot about that, Giannis did not have an injury free run, yet still came back and dropped a 50 piece in the championship game.

@cvgodd1432 5 месяцев назад

Stop it lol the NBA had a ton of injuries when he won it… it’s equivalent to that bubble ring Lakers got!

@keegansmith6571 5 месяцев назад

That sign off was hilarious😭 “alright man”

@BrianThomasII 5 месяцев назад

Elite conversation.

@HolidaySznn 5 месяцев назад

Nice

@94mikless 5 месяцев назад

Tim Legler giving lessons to JJ about what being an all star means: I love it. White is the 4th option on the team: opponents are not gameplanning against him.

@ThaChildishOne 5 месяцев назад

42:34 one of them is pj Tucker

@dvusr31 5 месяцев назад

You don't need to explain anything to anyone dude! Your opinions are always well considered, well informed and genuine.

@benaiah1960 5 месяцев назад

I would like to give Brad Stevens a plug: his deft handling of personnel has been crafty ... Signing Jaylen Brown to that massive extension created no rancor amongst the players; having a pro's pro like Al Holford ( think about this: the last player in the NBA from the last back-to-back NCAA champs!) come off the bench and sacrifice for the good of the team; playing through the front office /coaching scandal - even though some escaped accountability; and last - Kristaps Porzingas letting go of the bad treatment in Dallas, balling out in Washington, and going to an environment where he can be an over-the-hump game-changer is exciting to see

@jbanner09 5 месяцев назад

As much as I hated you at Duke. Damn I love the show. Love you just being you. Keep it up. Shout out to Tommy as well.

@mickydem5920 5 месяцев назад

Way to make a reasoned argument with solid evidence behind you. D White should be in the running. Way to go JJ

@samhi229 5 месяцев назад

Love these episodes. Way better than dunker spot and the 24 hour views speak to it. Would love to see the full episodes before the clips!

@dvdv8197 5 месяцев назад

Dunker Spot is quite decent in its own kind. It's just different, so you can prefer one over the other, but no need to throw shade at Dunker Spot. 😊

@lucysapphire 5 месяцев назад

Derrick White is one of the best guards in basketball. People that don’t agree have never seen him play. He’s always doing the right thing. His basketball IQ on and off ball is through the roof.

@TheMrMasterChief12 5 месяцев назад

Most people acknowledge that, he just isn't an all star

@bluecheckmiya 5 месяцев назад

He’s a great role player bruh. Ur right he is always making the right plays on both sides of the ball… he’s not a top 10 guard in the NBA tho bruh

@emdeezy7529 5 месяцев назад

He’s definitely top 10 in the league at guard, you guys love putting guys that get cooked over real game changing guards, d white is a top 3 guard defensively just as good as smart and holiday but with better length and is the best shot blocking guard in the League, he also had no offensive weakness to his game can score on all 3 levels with elite decision making ability which is his best skill

@TheMrMasterChief12 5 месяцев назад

@@emdeezy7529 Top 10 what??😂😂 You can't mean top 10 guard in the whole league can't be what you're talking about

@coreyczech 5 месяцев назад

Steph, Luka, Harden, Shai, Anthony Edwards, D Fox, T Young, J Murray, Haliburton, Maxey, Lillard, Brunson, Irving, Booker These guards are EASILY ahead of White... This doesn't even count players like Dejounte Murray, Fred Van Fleet, Lavine, CJ McCollum, Afernee Simmons and even teammate Jrue Holiday - All who are arguably better than White.... Derrick White is great, but this league is loaded with great guards

@bufordt2348 5 месяцев назад

Love the show. Just gotta get another table JJ. Cant take my eyes off the Smartwater sliding around. Or is that intentional? If so, genius.

@d3uce3306 5 месяцев назад

JJ and Legler talking basketball, that’s a no brainer. They make me like the current nba!

@emersonpinto1802 5 месяцев назад

Congrats ESPN having JJ.

@DDG00 5 месяцев назад

Legs is a great analyst

@olwethusilo7155 5 месяцев назад

Thoroughly enjoyed this y’all. Q: How are the Celtics the best team in the league? Surely it has to be Denver?

@olwethusilo7155 5 месяцев назад

Legs describing the minimum requirement for a team at 36:10 sounds like what GSW need

@onyroo 5 месяцев назад

Feels like so much has happened since this was recorded on the 19th

@gregyothers7965 5 месяцев назад

I love jj Reddick. For real. Please dont change for anyone. Or to make any troll happy.. please.

@CurryMan1226 5 месяцев назад

The hawks also had 4 all stars Teague, Korver, Milsap and Horford

@mactallica9293 5 месяцев назад

Gotta be the worst 4 all start team of all time lol. No one over 18 ppg

@benjaminvardaman1406 5 месяцев назад

Your best co host

@GilesPinto 5 месяцев назад

Derrick White is the new Joe Dumars? Thanks for keeping it real, JJ.

@djimonmoore7682 5 месяцев назад

If Ty Lue can put on another show coaching + everything else these guys mentioned 1:03:47 they’re my favorites to win it all.

@gudrg 5 месяцев назад

too complex episode but really good insights and conversation

@chrisacosta9433 5 месяцев назад

Wanted okc to go after Lauri a year ago. He’s the perfect fit.

@gregoryj547 5 месяцев назад

Legs is the best 👏

@ChidOki 5 месяцев назад

People outside of Utah just see the Jazz as like full rebuild mode and they were willing to trade anyone. That is almost true, except those who follow the franchise closely know that we are a little further along in our rebuild than most people perceive and that Markkanen is probably the one untouchable veteran in a trade. Also, in the 2 weeks since this video was posted (maybe 2.5-3 weeks since they filmed), Jazz have figured something out and have had one of the best records in the league during that time frame. With a pretty strong schedule too.

@trey_baker 5 месяцев назад

I totally agree with Tim Leger when he said “you don’t need to be a great defensive team to win nba championship, you only need a great offensse and adequate defense “ Clippers are the perfect team he’s describing. Clippers can dial up defensively when they need to and shut your water down in crucial moments of the game with Kawhi and Paul George. If Clippers figure out offensively, they’ll be scary

@DrW2023 5 месяцев назад

No the issue with the clippers is their damn injury luck and the mental block during the bubble. The clippers go as far as a healthy group of players. Unfortunately Leonard can never seem to stay healthy when it matters the most.

@trey_baker 5 месяцев назад

@@DrW2023 The health question applies to almost every player . Embiid has had previous injury issues Same with AD Same with KD Same with Jamal Murray Same with Devin Booker Same with Bradley Beal. I don’t like when people single out the Clippers. We can’t definitively say Kawhi is gonna be injured unless you’re praying for him to get injured.

@indashadow1 5 месяцев назад

Its cool and your right DW deserves Consideration But unless Bos gets 4 spots in the Allstar Game he will just not get in and its time to Accept that there are just not enough Spots but i Agree it needs to be 15 players and the All Star game needs to be the only game of the year that should have 15 min Quarters.....JT and JB Get in and IF they get a 3rd spot Its going to Porzingis just based on Depth at position in the East.....Unfortunate But It is what it Is.

@WidgetWagyu47292 5 месяцев назад

To your point about Derrick White playing his best ball. I think he’s the X factor just like Wiggins was for that warriors team who won the chip. Maybe white drops off next year but as of rn he’s playing his absolute best ball of his career even better then when he was the main option on the spurs.

@user-vq8lk8ul4l 5 месяцев назад

Derrick White is my favorite player on the Celtics. I bleed green and the Jay's are great but I don't always love the way those two play. I've never questioned the way White plays.

@lucysapphire 5 месяцев назад

Yep! Huge Celtics fan here and the J’s are awesome but Derrick is the constant on the court. ☘️

@Justaguynobodyimportant 5 месяцев назад

Would he have the same numbers if he was the 1st or 2nd option?

@user-vq8lk8ul4l 5 месяцев назад

@@Justaguynobodyimportant probably not

@Uncleemsaw 5 месяцев назад

Definitely my favorite basketball podcast. Been watching for some time but somehow, still have no clue what “the old man and the three things” means… I also heard JJ say, “ the old man and the three” and “ the old man and the three things” as if they were two separate entities. Hopefully someone can provide some context here

@Generic_Commentator 5 месяцев назад

I think the "Old Man and the Three", other than just being the primary podcast name, refers to the longer episodes that usually have an NBA player guest, or in this case Legler. The "Three Things" episodes are briefer, more focused episodes reacting to 3 things from the week's action.

@theoriginalsnop6561 5 месяцев назад

Talk about Houston more!!

@zacharymiller172 5 месяцев назад

You were for sure talking about PER stay in that beginning section when talking about Jokic😂

@leakoutjay143 5 месяцев назад

Kyle Korver and Jeff Teague were all stars in the same season. Derrick White as an all star is legit.

@Cyruseh 5 месяцев назад

As a Celtics fan white and jrue have made me borderline forget we lost smart Whites jump had made are team scary to terrifying

@johnnyapplesauce2998 5 месяцев назад

JJ I need you to dunk on the Pistons

@CharleyNxus 5 месяцев назад

in regards to the talent pool of the Clippers, I credit the chemist Tyronn Lue

@Steeezzzzz 5 месяцев назад

Celtics are going to have 3 allstars this szn minimum? They should. KP is on his 2nd year of being back at that level. I think White should get a wildcard nod. I think the same for the Wolves if they also keep up this pace