What Went WRONG Between Oliver Kylington & The Calgary Flames... | FN Barn Burner 

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It's seems that someone underestimated the rookie GM. Conny is quickly proving he isn't a pushover like the last GM. Good on ya conny

Pinder knocked this one out of the park.

This shows us a lot about his character and his priorities. I'm in the "good riddance" camp.

The sad part about this is that any player going through the same issues might not get the opportunity he did because teams would see how he took advantage of the situation and won’t want to get burned.

We gave him all the time and he still tried to stiff us so yeah cya dude pinder’s passion rant was needed it’s disrespectful

The rare flames media holding this guy accountable, I am sick of the he doesn’t owe them anything camp.

It feels like he's squandered a career . This will be a huge red flag for any team looking at him .

I feel like Pinder is the only flames media personality that had the stones to call this out and it desperately need to be done

Pinder and Rhett on POINT. Disgraceful show of character. I really wanted him resigned but now it's good riddance.

This is why I love you guys. You tell it like it is, and give a voice to what the fans are thinking. Keep it up!!

You can tell oliver is dead to retro 😅

This is beyond money. I don’t care what any virtue signaling person wanna say, the Flames stood by you in your lowest moment. SOME good will is due, the team is never gonna ask for it but you as a person should give it to them willingly. You would not have a career to return to had the team not supported you. It’s such a bad look for Kylington honestly and I’m disappointed in him. Look at how tight-lipped the organization was all throughout, none of us fans had any inkling on what happened. We still don’t know what happened. He could’ve really been suspended but he wasn’t, give something back as gratitude and don’t make the people who supported you ask for it.

Good job on this guys. Kylington and agent really dropped the ball on this thinking a raise was in order and/or longer term. Really bad optics on this end run. As you guys stated he should have taken a 1 year deal to prove he is a good defender. Conroy stated the door was pretty much closed, the Flames should close it period. A few spikes in it would also be good. Kylington will regret this ploy, but as a Flames fan, I say adios to this toxic back biting dude.

Also now he will get a 1 year 700,000

Honestly I don’t hold anything against him for not playing or even not resigning after the flames took care of him but whoever is telling him someone’s going to shell out multiple years above a minimum salary is completely delusional

Time to let him go . We want players that want to be here

There may be No one willing to give him even the league minimum, to potentially not keep it together enough to play a full season !

He does not care about the Flames, despite all the Flames did for him. I feel he is greedy. If you do not want to play in Calgary. Then leave! Goodbye Kylington!

I’m glad this is the discourse. I felt really insensitive when this was my first thought, but it’s the truth. Honestly I’d rather he go now, I don’t want him here if this is how he treats an organisation who bent over backwards to support him.

im pretty sure everyone seen what this guy "brings" to a team. he will be in a euro league if he wants to play

Honestly, I feel like Kylington is an ungrateful jerk. Mental health should be taken seriously, but the Flames certainly made a huge sacrifice to allow Kylington to take the time he wanted / needed. Maybe I am wrong, but I feel that Calgary was owed a thanks in the next negotiation.

He didn't want to be here, close the fucking door. It's that simple.

Regardless of the drama, he's an offensive D man who can barley hit 30 points. Even if he wanted to come back he's a replacement level player

Absolutely dead on accurate impressions!! See ya later Olly

My opinion is Kylington isn't as good a person as we think. His words were "I think the team knows where my loyalty is." He knew what he was doing and what his plan actually was. He pulled a Johnny fuck boy- he didn't want us to trade him. Was it a coincidence that he disappeared right after he signed his contract?

Rhett is the man. He wouldn't have pulled that shit.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He is suffering from post concussion syndrome. That’s why he was off for over a year and a half. He was never the same after getting slammed into the end boards and wobbled off the ice two years ago. That’s why during fitness testing he had to walk away.

He always has seemed to have an ego.

Same like Lindholm he got less money

Brett has the exact correct take on this. Dump this malcontent and bring up or in someone with integrity. They dont have to be a superstar. Just a good reliable defenceman. Let the goofball go somewhere else. Hecould end up in a bad irganization with a tough coach so the money means very little if that happens. He is totally expendable with no real downside. He hasnt proven anything except that he is a backstabber..

Great takes. If he was a guy that produced like 40+ points we may be talking about him differently but he simply isnt worth a long term contract or higher one. He took a year and a half off and certainly looked like it. Such a defensive liability and he was a great skater but could never do much with it anyways. Bean is a good low risk signing and if he doesn't pan out we finally have some good defense prospects like Poirier and Brzustewicz. Wish Kylington the best but he probably will be playing overseas next year. Wont miss the dramatics

Call it like it is!! You boys run a good show!!

Sad to lose him, he showed promise, even though he's an older player. I want to understand, but unless he lets us into his thought process, he just looks bad, for the moment at least. I have a lot of sympathy for taking time for mental health, and respect for privacy as well, but a situation like this definitely comes with the understanding that you're gonna give back, not just to the "business", but to the fans and the community as well, who also strongly supported the Flames' patience and payout. I wanted to cheer for Shillie, and now I feel like I can't.

Pinder nailed this!! Never thought I'd say those words but Flames handled this with absolute class and weather it's Kylingyon or his agent who knows either way Flames showed the organization they are with they way they handled this.. It's July 4th Great job American Conroy respecting Canada country and drafting Canadian players not one that will bitch about playing in Canada!! Hey Americans who get drafted in Canada and bitch cause it's cold the game you so call love is played on ICE deal with it!! Like Buffalo and Detroit are sexy you don't see Stevie Y or all the Canadians who played in Buffalo bail oh but your own American Eichel did.. NHL Is a business now and I appreciate Conroy understanding this Go Flames Go!!

Self-awareness doesn't seem to be Kylington or JP Barry's strong suits.

Hey guys love the flames mgmt support...totally agree...any chance his mental health stuff has creeped back in???

He is destroying his career. Oliver Kylington should take the offer that was on the table, if it is still there.

Personally I didn't feel he merited the leash they gave him. This definitely ends it. Gi get you 775 x 1

I think the 2 years the flames have supported his mental illness is a pure mirror to the decision he made on not re signing here. And the drum beat goes on for shilly can’t make a good choice in his life might be his problem. Maybe 2-3 years from now he’s not in the NHL then he just puts himself in the same position and make what ever mental illness he had even worse. Could be his own worse enemy.Not meaning to be harsh that’s how I’m seeing it thought.

Oliver has to prove he belongs in the NHL at this point and time. He's got very little time in the league for a player his age, and he's coming off of the player assistance program. I think most of the teams know what's going on. He only came back because the gravy train was about to end. Now he wants someone to pay him sit out another couple of seasons. He's a project. You only pick him up if you have massive amounts of cap and can bury the contract. Chances are he goes back into the program and who knows if or when that could happen. What if you're fighting for your life in a playoff series, and Oliver says I can't handle it and quits to go on the program. Now you're without a dman. You can't plan a team with someone like that. He's unreliable. You can't have a worker who doesn't show up on Monday ready to work, but Oh he showed up for a few months in the spring, and now he wants a raise on his next contract. The guy and his agent are delusional. A team will take a chance on him, but they're not going to be lined up to sign a player who can't be relied on to be ready to play.

C ya

If I'm Conroy and Kylington circles back begging for a contract I hang up immediately. Clearly doesn't want to be here even after the team supported him immensely. Time to move on

Don't sign that Guy ! There are a lot of Young players that will be Happy to play.

I agree with all of this 100% Kylington is no victim here they've gone above and beyond for him. Either he or his agent (or both) got greedy and thought they could exploit the Flames at their weakest moment. Let him sign elsewhere there's a good chance he could get sent down to the minors.

For Kylington to do this must mean he has a lot of self-confidence and a high opinion of himself, which is great. It's a sign of someone who is mentally very well. Probably more so than the average person. He went from having mental health issues to having an inflated sense of self-worth. Man, sign me up that therapist.

What is this discussion based on? Guesses? The truth is we don’t know the cause of the situation. Maybe it will turn out that Oliver is the class act here.

If he comes back I hope he can just play & have this behind him as poor planning from his team. If he doesn't, oh well, I hope it's not a scenario he gets booed coming back to Calgary. He's not a Vilan here, just a shitty situation handled poorly by a young man fighting some demons off the ice.

The issue is TERM. With his previous issues, no one will give him a tonne of term if he has any additional bouts of illness. He’d get $2.5 x 1 year anywhere, including Calgary. He likely held out for 3+ years.

The Flames could not suspend him. Why do people keep saying that?

I'll be booing Shill-ington from now on. Even if he stays on our team... At this point I HOPE he goes and the door hits him on the ass on the way out. I'm stick of players who are not invested in the franchise, especially after we were so loyal to him and payed him for almost 2 years of doing nothing. How money hungry can you be? He's definitely not as good as he thinks he is... sure he has potential, but he is not a rookie anymore and has never lived up to that potential. After his lack of stats and contributions to the team after all this time, he'd be lucky if any other team wants to put him on their NHL roster... he's probably going down to the AHL for a bit and will have to settle for an even lower contract then what we are offering him, once the door closes with us.

U guys are thinking what most of us are thinking

I wonder, if we traded his best friend to New Jersey, and he’s just not happy about it

The CBA and Step 1 of the Player's Assistance Program tells you everything you need to know: Step 1 IS CONFIDENTIAL. What you're doing with this complaint is trying to break the CBA. Not only does neither side owe you information, they're not allowed to give you any. What you're doing is adding stress to a situation that may lead the player into Step 2, the one that gets public with paid leave. If you can't read between the lines of what he's dealing with, be it simple mental health or addiction, then chill the fuck out and wait it out. Same thing happened to Nichushkin in Colorado over a year ago: no one was allowed to say anything, yet folks kept pushing and the player ran out of time in Step 1 and didn't get to heal properly and was catapulted into Step 2, going public with his problem, without pay.

Just looked at the players the agent is representing. Quite a few there. Im guessing , completely unsubstantiated by fact, that either Shill got bad advice from family or he's on meds that make him over confident and therefore not making a humble decision. This is only based on my intuition .

Time to cut losses

Why does this dude wear shades inside?

I bet Owner ship will not give him a long extension due to the fact they think he will pull the same crap get a long contract and sit at home so there should be a caveat that states if we give you a contract and if U stay home again you don,t get paid

Flames were forced into treating him well the last couple o years or they may have had another Akim whats his name situation.

A real buzz kylington

"I don't know what the issue was" and then Pinder pontificates for 12 minutes. Maybe wait until you find out what the issue was before throwing the player under the bus. But I'm also in the camp of letting him go and test the waters. Go Flames Go!

Flames interviewing and scouting staff really needs to start doing a better job with prospects. This situation honestly sucks what a selfish greedy prick. Even as an Oilers fan it’s getting sickening seeing players constantly chase money to play for the Flames and when it doesn’t happen it always results in a trade. Conroy is right a good dude as long as he can work on it and continue finding these kids that want to be Calgary Flames the future is bright, but I think it’s time to just kick all these cry babies to the curb

Maybe Conroy isn’t interested in signing him.

Flames suspend him He had a case at the human rights tribunal. Like it or not Kylington is legally disabled with a mental health diagnosis

Sign her therapist for 1st line center.

I thought he was going to do this crap he seems selfish

People, hockey, is a business , its entertainment business. Player agents have to look after their clients 😳 $$$$$

100% behind your views- those overprotecting his "move" as he earned this right? Have you actually analysed what the Organisation did for him vs his right to go to FA? So Ungrateful on his part.

Not a flames fan, but this development is still disappointing. It was such a feel-good story this year; his return was talked about all over the league. It's all tarnished now.

Normally I’m all for players testing free agency when they get there. Even if I don’t like it, you’ve earned that right. In this case I honestly feel he owes at least a 1 or 2 year deal to the organization AND the fans for how they’ve treated him. This is bushleague after all the support and money he got through his struggles.

It’s a bad look, for sure, but I still want to know what the offer was before I go passing judgement. The same contract would have been fair, 2 x $2.5. It would be kinda terrible on the Flames part if they low-balled him to make him look greedy or ungrateful. The truth always comes out in the wash.

I really am wondering if it's just something where he wants a full break, fresh start, new place, where there isn't the memories and thoughts of what he went through.

So… Chucky and Benny win the cup in Florida, Jonny and Monny together in Columbus. Where will our next first rounders/top players end up?!

Is he contemplating retirement?

I agree definitely shows he character , nice signing Bean, Great job Conny the flames did nothing but help this guy out.

Just move on from that player. There are plenty more who want his place. I would say this is a business for the strong both mentally and physically. I feel Calgary did what anyone can demand. Now let him go. Economically he is set for life. If he can’t get fit to play mental illness is not different than physical illness. If you can’t play you can’t that how it is. If you disrespect your team like that, it’s bye bye. And I like the guy. He played for my hometown team a long time ago.

Support a guy and give every chance and he pulls this crap? Buh bye bro. Good luck in the market.

Kylington's skating is subpar anyways. It's like a walmart version of PK Subban.

Agreed with the guys here. It was ungrateful and disrespectful. On the flip side of things, look at Connor Brown. He played poorly this year early on and collected a big paycheck last year and he comes back and signs a 1 million deal for next year to give back to the Oil some value next year when he could have gotten more money elsewhere.

Oliver obviously has mental health issues. Conny needs to sign this guy and then trade him immediately for whatever he can get.

Oliver is 27, regardless of what CGY did for him over the past few years, he will not get the career capital he needs to go long with a team for the 1 yr (maybe 2yr) extension offered by the Flames during this rebuild stage. His agent is looking for a team in the hunt for Stanley + best offer to best showcase his client for a long contract, and it will come. Oliver and agent will absolutely not play "thank you" years for CGY and CGY would agree. Your welcome.

Pinders 200% right:….

Pay the guy 5 yrs@ $4

Offering a short term deal is the issue. Offering a 4 yr. deal gives a sign of confidence from Flames. Go all in and offer him a "we want you" deal. Then if need be, ask for a trade later, at least Flames get a return after standing by Kylington. Hey Oliver-the Fans want you to sign, remember the standing ovation?

Great content but your point could have been made in 3 minutes. Why do you guys just keep repeating the same things?

5 million for 30 or so games what a joke

This is a bad look peetaining to mental health and a business being understanding. Kylington should have taken a prove it deal with the flames since they have a d core thats lacking. He could have potentially received top 4 minutes and played a full year to show hes dealt with his mental health stuff and can be a contributor, then he could have went to the market and other teams likely would have been more interested depending on how he played. This feels like someone that knows his days in the league are probably numbered. He was probably hoping a team might give him more term at $2m for 4 years, then if he is done, he's made his money and could go overseas after getting his bag. Well, I hope he has fun playing wherever he ends up for a fraction of the offer he had from the Flames🫡

Very disappointing. Stood by him while he was not very good. Then again when he had mental issues. Get out!

But what have you done for me lately… “Oliver” not good bud

It kinda reminds me of the guy that calls in to work because he has mental health, then wants a raise. For showing up 2 days a week. In the real world he would have been fired. Clearly not the right thing and I love Kylington. You turn your back when the team or “company” has support you through this. Kick rocks bro. We’re out here working our asses off and you’re getting millions sitting on your ass. Not right.

Why do I have this feeling that the mental illness was more of not liking D Sutter.

Realty check. He is just one of many people running away from Calgary......

If screws the flames- will you guys buy the jersey of the new team he is on? You do it with Tkachuk

He isn't showing up and skipping out for 6 months at a time and using mental health as a way to skip out on work and now trying to earn more when you haven't proved it

Do we not have the cap space to sign this guy for two years? Let’s go ffs!

Can you really blame him though? He probably doesn't want to have a miserable year on Calgary. I would go somewhere else and win

Good riddence.

I’d be in a mental hell state too if I had to live in Calgary.

This is part of mental health. He could be struggling again. Weird to speculate on this and have hard lines. He hasn't signed anywhere, and you think he's after money? 😂 Oliver Kylington is free do whatever he wants. Loyalty doesn't exist in this league. Just ask Stamkos and Marchessault.

Money is money, everyone wants the most.. Shyl have you earned it? A little barking and you get more. The question now is , is there someone out there that can contribute more for what Shil is asking.