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What will the Prologue to the Winds of Winter be about? 

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@DolfinDiablo
@DolfinDiablo 4 месяца назад
I'm glad I'm not elderly... My grandfather is about to turn 92 years old and has been waiting on this book for almost two decades.
@thomaslance5428
@thomaslance5428 4 месяца назад
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that.
@Manterok
@Manterok 4 месяца назад
I'm sorry bro. That's one reason I wish I could live forever. Someone will finish this series one day
@DolfinDiablo
@DolfinDiablo 4 месяца назад
@@thomaslance5428 there has been times I have made a life choice or decided not to do something because it carried a risk of me dying and I refuse to go before a dream of spring
@derekweiland1857
@derekweiland1857 4 месяца назад
​​@@Manterok Nope. GRRM has made it very clear in multiple interviews that he will never allow anyone to finish his novels should he die before they are completed. He has left stict instructions with wife, children and numerous lawyers to destroy what remains and to sue anyone who even attempts a fiction in the same world he created. He has always had a zero tolerance for this kind of stuff in any if his works.
@Laketwig
@Laketwig 4 месяца назад
@@Manterok hope not.
@CSNA_Gaming
@CSNA_Gaming 4 месяца назад
Damn. I remember when this channel has like 20k subscribers. 711k is crazy. Shoutout to Robert for all the hard work.
@ErinDionysusBee
@ErinDionysusBee 4 месяца назад
Bump, bump, bump this to top, everybody to the bumpy bump!
@Tophatjones358
@Tophatjones358 4 месяца назад
Right! I do too! Robert is a legend!
@robotempire
@robotempire 4 месяца назад
712k now
@emilywells2825
@emilywells2825 4 месяца назад
its 712 now
@AlexDRohmat
@AlexDRohmat 4 месяца назад
714!
@1308Ghosty
@1308Ghosty Месяц назад
At this point if the book doesn’t come out soon, the fandom will figure out everything on its own. This makes perfect sense !
@grayapple4837
@grayapple4837 4 месяца назад
Prester is a good choice for the POV, and you're right that GRRM probably built him up in Jaime's estimation for that reason. Personally though, I hope it's Lady Sybell Westerling (Spicer). Of all the characters on that wagon train, hers is the head I'd most like to see into. She could tell us a lot about Tywin's machinations on the Red Wedding, the politics of the Westerlands and Riverlands, and her own family history, including the magic of her grandmother, Maggy the Frog. Plus, having Nymeria kill someone who betrayed the Starks would be great poetic justice! Great video as always.
@E_T_31
@E_T_31 4 месяца назад
Great point, I totally forgot that she was Maggy the Frog's granddaughter... I take every bit of justice for Robb I can take :')
@Matthew10950
@Matthew10950 4 месяца назад
I like this a lot and can see some good potential. But Martin isn't clever enough. I have no hope he can pull it off. Give Sanderson the notes and let him finish it in my son's lifetime.
@aprilmae274
@aprilmae274 4 месяца назад
If we don't get to get inside her head, we will def still get some shit on her family background. There is no way around that in text. You will get some satisfation-but! There is some background in Fire and Blood and some in what Kevan says about her when talking about how he would let his son marry a Westerling...but never a Spicer. That Westerling was ill to marry her lol
@inthefade
@inthefade 4 месяца назад
Because she can give so much information is why GRRM won't use her. He would rather obfuscate things. That's why we like his writing.
@SkywalkerSamadhi
@SkywalkerSamadhi 4 месяца назад
Jeyne Westerling is the granddaughter of Maggy the Frog??
@TheStoneTargaryen
@TheStoneTargaryen 4 месяца назад
SO HAPPY YOU MENTIONED HIM SAYING THE POV MIGHT NOT DIE. I’ve been repeating it for years and all the big channels ignore it and - it just feels great to see it in a video.
@ObsydianShade
@ObsydianShade 4 месяца назад
I'm more worried about the author dying...
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 4 месяца назад
@@ObsydianShade My fear, exactly!!!!
@alexmars1511
@alexmars1511 4 месяца назад
Perhaps now in the prologue, someone will be born or reborn
@NukeMarine
@NukeMarine 4 месяца назад
Chett didn't die in his POV. He wet his pants but he didn't die till a later Samwell chapter. It's silly to say epilogue or prologue POV characters die given this blatant "exception". The "epilogue" to A Game of Thrones though might have ended with the death and resurrection of Dany. There's that mysterious shift in POV where we're told what other characters see finding Dany in the remains of the funeral pyre. A similar shift was noted in a Victarion chapter.
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 4 месяца назад
Catelyn died though.
@MCreedon34
@MCreedon34 Месяц назад
Thank you for not abandoning your channel after the disappointments of season 7&8 like what seemed like lot of game of thrones/a song of ice and fire channels on RU-vid did
@kenchin77777
@kenchin77777 4 месяца назад
If I ever get famous enough for a biography, I want Robert to narrate it lol. Most calming voice in the genre
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 4 месяца назад
I think that the wolf pack directly attacking 400 soldiers is a bit too much. My idea is that it's the Blackfish and Riverlands survivors who launch an attack, and as they win the Lannister forces scatter. That's where the wolves come in, hunting down the fleeing Lannisters.
@millibillionth
@millibillionth 4 месяца назад
Plus, George likes to create puzzles. Having multiple forces add to the confusion, helping him to obfuscate things.
@pieceofgosa
@pieceofgosa 4 месяца назад
Not sure if this is just a coincidence but: AGOT - beyond the wall ACOK - in the south ASOS - beyond the wall AFFC - in the south ADWD - beyond the wall Somewhere in the south seems a safe bet. I agree with the person who said Sybelle Spicer for the PoV. Stoneheart attacking Jeyne's transport seems an excellent shout.
@alexandermendez4653
@alexandermendez4653 2 месяца назад
And the two south of the wall were a maester and someone studying to be a maester. Kind of narrows it down
@ALtheuncommonicedragon8360
@ALtheuncommonicedragon8360 4 месяца назад
My guess is POV will be Sybelle Spicer. That in the prologue will have Jeyne westerling caravan being intercepted by lady stoneheart. Catelyn will capture Jeyne & execute Sybelle.
@rustiouk760
@rustiouk760 4 месяца назад
Excellent thinking, I suspect you may be correct
@kasey670
@kasey670 4 месяца назад
The timing is all wrong for that. They leave riverrun mid dance of dragons. In that time Jaime has travelled to raventree lifted the siege gone to penny tree run off with Brienne. Then have enough time for word to get back to kings landing when Cersei was still in jail. Then Cersei has her walk of punishment then kevan is killed by Varys. If the caravan was attacked we would have heard about it in the last book.
@allthatishere
@allthatishere 4 месяца назад
​@@kasey670 I haven't read the books, but didn't the dance of dragons happen well over a century before this series started?
@janekgaazka8683
@janekgaazka8683 4 месяца назад
@@allthatishere fifth book is called "A Dance with Dragons", that's what they probably meant
@pieceofgosa
@pieceofgosa 4 месяца назад
This is a fantastic shout. Fits perfectly.
@toms169
@toms169 4 месяца назад
04:48 Robert misspoke here. The Tullys were Lords Paramount of the Riverlands, not the Reach, as most of you will know.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 4 месяца назад
Thank you for running through each prologue character. Saved me googling it lol
@thomaslance5428
@thomaslance5428 4 месяца назад
I'm glad Martin doesn't feel chained to bad tv writers. It's like they didn't know what they were doing, at least towards the end, writing themselves into corners. Martin, on the other hand, has had this stuff stewing in his subconscious for YEARS.
@filipeventura7588
@filipeventura7588 4 месяца назад
at this point it's stewing for so many years i hope it did not fizzle away
@kredonystus7768
@kredonystus7768 4 месяца назад
Writing himself into corners for decades you mean.
@sannyassi73
@sannyassi73 4 месяца назад
Writing himself into corners for decades, you mean?
@Cyballistic
@Cyballistic 4 месяца назад
I think what happened is that Martin’s ending was not too far off from the ending in the show, which had terrible reception. So he had to toss out years of work and try to rewrite something else. Combine that with being sidetracked by dozens of different projects to build his wealth, and you have a recipe for disaster. This book will not come out before he dies.
@indoorplant2392
@indoorplant2392 4 месяца назад
@@sannyassi73why copy
@AirWindStorm
@AirWindStorm 4 месяца назад
This channel is the only thing that still keeps me in this fascinating but unfinished universe. Kudos to Robert!
@Calebe_Sagaz
@Calebe_Sagaz 4 месяца назад
Only years later when I read again ADWD I realized the prologue with Varamyr paralleled Jon Snow's ending, suggesting that his soul had entered the Ghost.
@LegitimateEU
@LegitimateEU 4 месяца назад
The Bible volume 2 hitting the shelves long before I get to read this prologue
@ggenie7489
@ggenie7489 4 месяца назад
The Bible 2, Electric Boogaloo.
@username.exenotfound2943
@username.exenotfound2943 4 месяца назад
the bible 2 the newer testament staring jod and gesus
@Levacque
@Levacque 4 месяца назад
You uhhhhhh... You know that the Bible already got a Volume 2, right? Old and New?
@DeCode343
@DeCode343 4 месяца назад
Part 3. Sadly there is already an old and new testament
@nigredoooalgown6245
@nigredoooalgown6245 4 месяца назад
You mean the Quran...
@mori1bund
@mori1bund 4 месяца назад
My guess is Jeyne's mother Lady Spicer will be the pov. It would be poetic justice if she's killed by a wolf. ^^
@Levacque
@Levacque 4 месяца назад
The one thing that makes me doubt it will be her POV is that she sort of already dumped out her whole purse for Jaime Lannister - she told him everything she did while conspiring against Robb, so what else is there to learn from her as opposed to being within an unknown entity? I like that the prologue POVs are nearly unheard-of characters because we get entirely fresh information.
@mori1bund
@mori1bund 4 месяца назад
@@Levacque good point!
@Radiotomb
@Radiotomb 4 месяца назад
Its about Maester Jon Vance. Preston Jacobs took care of writing it for us.
@thelateescapist8266
@thelateescapist8266 4 месяца назад
I would love it if the prologue is from the perspective of Jon in Ghost. Which would break the rule of prologue POV chacter death in that (A the character is technically already dead and (B will take part in the main action after the prologue. And as for Jayne appearing in that prologue, well it's already been established that the direwolves have a magical awareness of their siblings whereabouts and specific activities. Jon/Ghost has even had a fairly vivid vision of Rickon and Shaggy Dog on a different land mass (Skaggos). So it's perfectly probable that they could have a vision of Nymeria in the Riverlands or the Westerlands. And maybe now that Jon/Ghost are one flesh they will be able to have visions of the Starks who have been separated from their wolves, such as Arya and Sansa. Such a prologue could well forshadow all of the Starks gaining conscious control of their skinchanging abilities.😊 🐺
@ruanialuvizotto2521
@ruanialuvizotto2521 4 месяца назад
Great video, it's a shame that we will never know since this book will never see the light of day 😢
@evanmcdonald9134
@evanmcdonald9134 4 месяца назад
This isn’t exactly related to the winds prologue but I wanted to talk about my favorite chapter so far and thought this would be a good community to do it in. I just read the chapter where Brienne, Hyle Hunt, Podrick, and a septon are on their way from maidenpool. The way the septon speaks about the common man’s experience in war and how it breaks them moved me more than any of the other writing in the books. Obviously we see everything from the point of view of the rich and privileged, so anything from a common man’s point of view is interesting to a certain extent, but the emotion conveyed in this part was just incredible. At the end, they ask him which war he was in and he says he was a young boy. Hyle tells him “The war of the ninepenny kings?” “So they called it, though I never saw a King or earned a penny. It was war though. That it was”
@mythal0620
@mythal0620 4 месяца назад
Great analysis and assessment! I've actually kind of said goodbye to the books because I can no longer believe that the series will be completed - but you've given me a renewed approach today, as well as you obviously know the books. The only thing that bothers me are the film images, because the film version completely lost me after the second or third season and I just found it absurd by the end.
@gustavoferroni2693
@gustavoferroni2693 4 месяца назад
This is a very good breakdown of possibilities, thank you!! I think you are spot on. Nymeria will attack! My money is on Ser Forley Prester being the point of view. The big question is, will the pack kill Edmure and Jeyne or will he? Could they kill everyone, afterall doesnt matter how big the pack is, 400 soldiers is no joke, right? Or will the soldiers end up killing Nymeria - maybe this prompts Arya to abandon the faceless men and come back to Westeros? She would feel it, right? This could be a good way to solve several threads: wolf pack finished, Edmure and Jeyne dead, Lannisters lose hostages and many soldiers, succession in Riverlands and North gets more open for Sansa to claim it, Arya gets incentive to head back. If the prologue goes this way it would help move the story more quickly. Also, imagine the shock of so many important charcteres dying in the prologue!
@EmpyreanSasarai
@EmpyreanSasarai 4 месяца назад
It will definitely set the tone for the book of swathes of characters dying.
@scotthammond3230
@scotthammond3230 4 месяца назад
"Ah theyve guessed it, which means Ill have to change it, and it will take a few extra years for me to rework some plot lines to accomplish this.."
@averageyoutuber7252
@averageyoutuber7252 4 месяца назад
It's been 13 years since ADWD, at this point I've just about lost hope :(
@derekwarr8567
@derekwarr8567 4 месяца назад
and interest
@PalmelaHanderson
@PalmelaHanderson 4 месяца назад
I've long since bought into the idea that GRRM either doesn't know how to finish the series or simply doesn't really want to. It's not like he hasn't been writing - he's written lots of things since ADWD. 13 years since the last book isn't simply writer's block - he either doesn't know how to finish it or doesn't care to because he's bored with it.
@dolorousjohn5499
@dolorousjohn5499 4 месяца назад
@@PalmelaHanderson I think there's some spite mixed in because everywhere he goes he gets hassled about it too.
@viperswhip
@viperswhip 4 месяца назад
@@PalmelaHanderson I remember when HBO announced a host of new shows, and a fan asked him if he was going to be involved in one, and he, not reading the room at all, said, no I will be involved in all four!
@toms169
@toms169 4 месяца назад
A big chunk of Winds of Winter is written already. My best guess: it will come out eventually. We will never see A Dream of Spring.
@zacyule4674
@zacyule4674 4 месяца назад
In deep geek and quin the gm in the same day. God is good
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 4 месяца назад
Praise the Old Gods and the New!
@molleh3180
@molleh3180 4 месяца назад
We’re eating good today
@timopraxis
@timopraxis 4 месяца назад
All the time.
@corydora2894
@corydora2894 4 месяца назад
I'm not so sure Lady Stoneheart would be concerned with Jeyne's wellbeing. At Catelyn Stark she was kind enough, but we do know that she attempted to hang Brienne without allowing her to explain, and most of her merciful side is lost. It's fully possible that Lady Soneheart will be included, but will she try to rescue Catelyn Stark's daughter in law is a bit up in the air.
@AndrewK23777
@AndrewK23777 4 месяца назад
Great vid as always IDG. Interesting thoughts / theory IDG , i think this prologue scenario could work really well on many levels. I had been leaning more towards LSh but perhaps underestimated the size of the Lannister force protecting Jeyne's caravan , especially considering their preparedness with them on the alert for any attack. I was between LSh and possibly even the Blackfish maybe converging unknowingly at the same time with the same aim. That would make for an interesting Tully reunion of sorts. Didn't really think of the wolf-pack in this instance , had thought more about the pack helping take out the Freys more specifically but I do like it to intercept Jeyne en route to Casterly Rock. The use of the wolf-pack in the prologue would actually be a fitting introduction in terms of the pack taking action on a grander scale , with ideally more to come from them. And could be the start of the Stark comeback in a sense and a catalyst for them with Arya and beyond.
@GoodNyew
@GoodNyew 4 месяца назад
Nothing because it will never be written
@TG-rf2iu
@TG-rf2iu 4 месяца назад
Yeah I’m afraid you’re very right.
@redgreen2453
@redgreen2453 4 месяца назад
😭
@nicodemusedwards6931
@nicodemusedwards6931 4 месяца назад
I’m confident at least this part has been written
@TheStoneTargaryen
@TheStoneTargaryen 4 месяца назад
Booo
@Nanobot1989
@Nanobot1989 4 месяца назад
Oh the prologue is written. That I don’t doubt. It’ll just never be released
@richardtabor8686
@richardtabor8686 4 месяца назад
Very interested to hear IDG's educated guess. Ty so much for the continued amazing content.
@Mathemagical55
@Mathemagical55 4 месяца назад
The prologue will be George's obituary and a description of how the ghost-writers finished the book from his notes.
@freekedit7007
@freekedit7007 4 месяца назад
This is so disgustingly on point
@The-Mstr-Pook
@The-Mstr-Pook 4 месяца назад
Apparently he has stated his notes be destroyed on his death and no one to publish any Got works posthumously
@arvetis
@arvetis 4 месяца назад
@@The-Mstr-Pook It only takes a quick google to dispel this myth. He's talked in the past about relations finishing his books after he's gone, and all his papers that he supposedly wants destroyed are archived at the Special Collections at Texas A&M University
@San_Vito
@San_Vito 3 месяца назад
@@arvetis So... he isn't using his own notes to write right now?
@arvetis
@arvetis 3 месяца назад
@@San_Vito I have no idea how you got that out of what I said.
@spliffertonsheldrake6007
@spliffertonsheldrake6007 4 месяца назад
I think this is a really cool prediction, well thought out. Nice work!
@7thmizukage
@7thmizukage 4 месяца назад
Glory to The Riverlands! 🐟
@andrewverdone4957
@andrewverdone4957 3 месяца назад
Varameer Six Skins could be a prelude to Jon taking over the superpack
@alexandermendez4653
@alexandermendez4653 2 месяца назад
It was a prelude to Jon warging into Ghost upon his death
@SL56043
@SL56043 4 месяца назад
Mormont's Raven (Jacqen Hgar) is Hodor because it is in Ser Pounce's mouth inside Brynden Rivers' weirwood network.
@merlinho0t
@merlinho0t 4 месяца назад
RIP to all the fans who will die before the book will be finished, which is every single person reading this comment.
@crazychimp1324
@crazychimp1324 4 месяца назад
I had doubts about seeing GTA 6 and it got announced. I’d be 100% more elated to see just an announcement of a winds of winter
@tylergrey7985
@tylergrey7985 4 месяца назад
I won't be able to RIP
@oimss2021
@oimss2021 3 месяца назад
There are fans who have died since ADWD came out
@sbxi
@sbxi 3 месяца назад
this hits hard😢
@andrewscoppetta4944
@andrewscoppetta4944 3 месяца назад
💀💀💀 I’m dead As will be everybody, as you predict
@kevinbazarek
@kevinbazarek 4 месяца назад
great job as always, Robert. can't wait for the next one. thanks!
@sophiepap2462
@sophiepap2462 2 месяца назад
What I think is that your optimism about Winds of Winter being published is remarkable. I 've quit hoping.
@silver057
@silver057 4 месяца назад
@QuinnTheGM made a video were he theorized that the POV will be the Maester who assists Jeyne Westerling when she gives birth to Robb's heir. The heir would then be kidnapped/secured by the brotherhood without banners and Lady Stoneheart.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 4 месяца назад
That makes no sense - we already know she’s not pregnant.
@juneclark263
@juneclark263 3 месяца назад
❤❤❤shout out to the best narrator who brings a channel that I could listen to forever
@joe_fizz
@joe_fizz 4 месяца назад
Thank you again Robert
@cipher48
@cipher48 4 месяца назад
You forgot to mention there is a tendency for a certain type of character to be the POV of the prologue. The first one was beyond the wall, the second one a maester, the third one beyond the wall, the fourth one a maester (or close to it), and lastly, the fifth one was beyond the wall, again. It is likely the POV is a maester Another thing, about Jeyne's hips. Yes, GRRM said it was an author error her description, but I remember it being refered to be the one description made in AFFC, not in ASOS
@Levacque
@Levacque 4 месяца назад
The other thing about the hips is who was looking at Jeyne. Catelyn, being extremely preoccupied with motherhood and procreation (especially in ASOS, it's a major theme in her chapters), would be much more likely to pay close attention to her son's wife's body. Jaime, on the other hand, has absolutely no reason to find Jeyne's body interesting. All he sees is a thin young girl who isn't ready for any of this. Jaime see a fragile person in need of safety, so the thinness of her frame emphasizes that.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 месяца назад
The question is WHY Nymeria would make such an attack? If it were Arya's warging influence, then how would saving Jeyne and/or Edmure be relevant? While related to her, she doesn't know them as far as we've seen. How would she have the intelligence to even know about the transport? She wouldn't. She couldn't. That would mean someone else is behind the superpack and Arya's just been around for the ride. Arya's chapter mentions a tree watching, so it could be a , "When in doubt..." situation.
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 4 месяца назад
Are we blaming Bloodraven or Bran here?
@clatricia
@clatricia 4 месяца назад
For a practical purpose, it could be due to the size of the company itself. Prey becomes scarce with winter coming, so the wolves attack as much for survival as anything influenced by magic.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 месяца назад
@@thing_under_the_stairs I'm going with Bloodraven as I doubt Bran will have fully taken over the job by the first chapter.
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 4 месяца назад
@@carlrood4457 Leaving out the possibilities of all time-travelling Bran theories... for now. ;)
@rameo89
@rameo89 Месяц назад
Based on your well done video, I’m guessing the pov is a Lannister guard who gets attacked by an interested party that would like to save Jane. Great video!!
@eric2500
@eric2500 4 месяца назад
Shivers up my spine! Nice! I think our man in command is loyal but conflicted -Prester IS LOYAL but has been in the habit of being loyal to the West - _" Gawan's girl?"_ he does not want to harm the child of another ( formerly loyal, mostly loyal) lord of the Westerlands.
@smartmouth4444
@smartmouth4444 4 месяца назад
It will just be a troll face released after his death. He's not working on it and he doesn't intend to either.
@stephenconroy5908
@stephenconroy5908 4 месяца назад
I like this, that opening of Jeyne and/or Edmure being killed in an attack by wolves, which while defeating the enemy comes at the cost of a family member and/or key player, could also foreshadow Rickon Stark's death during the Battle of the Bastards. It could be his funeral in the last chapter, not necessarily the battle itself.
@R0CKDRIG0
@R0CKDRIG0 4 месяца назад
I don't think Edmure is going to die, if not then who's gonna rule the Riverlands at the end of the story? Plus he's shown to care about the common people more than the average lord and I don't think Martin would punished him that easily.
@wellactually1510
@wellactually1510 4 месяца назад
It's cute that you still think that we'll ever get to read the Winds of Winter
@NukeMarine
@NukeMarine 4 месяца назад
Chett didn't die in his POV. He wet his pants but he didn't die till a later Samwell chapter. It's silly to say epilogue or prologue POV characters die given this blatant "exception". The "epilogue" to A Game of Thrones though might have ended with the death and resurrection of Dany. There's that mysterious shift in POV where we're told what other characters see finding Dany in the remains of the funeral pyre. A similar shift was noted in a Victarion chapter.
@pumas2342
@pumas2342 4 месяца назад
it will be tyrek lannister revealing how he come to be Ser Robert Strong
@Levacque
@Levacque 4 месяца назад
Ok now, look. I get that Qyburn is a certified mad genius and all, but even he has limits. How could he possibly fit an entire horse inside of that suit of armour, oversized though it may be?
@Shelly-mz9yf
@Shelly-mz9yf Месяц назад
Thank you so much didn't realize this....after watching got and not reading books and so immersed in all
@rezman69ify
@rezman69ify 4 месяца назад
Another great video. Love listening to you talk about agot. Keep upnthe great work. Looking forward to the next one
@MeetThaNewDealer
@MeetThaNewDealer 4 месяца назад
Rhaegar returns 😮
@erikthomsen4768
@erikthomsen4768 4 месяца назад
I'll believe that when his son rises from the grave and dragons roam Valyria again.
@guyledouche7939
@guyledouche7939 4 месяца назад
Somehow Rhaegar returned.
@onyedikachukwumiracle
@onyedikachukwumiracle 4 месяца назад
What is dead may never die
@maxb8749
@maxb8749 4 месяца назад
I would love a Forley Prester POV because having a chapter from the POV of a old and expierenced knight is the perfect opportunity to get more random lore about the previous conflicts in Westeros like Robert's Rebellion.
@Levacque
@Levacque 4 месяца назад
Ooooooh, yeah! He would definitely have been a young man during the uprising of the Kingswood Brotherhood, maybe even a teenager during the war of the Ninepenny Kings!
@maxb8749
@maxb8749 4 месяца назад
@@Levacque exactly!
@carlbradley4872
@carlbradley4872 4 месяца назад
Marvelous! I don't even READ the books. Just a committed Show fan who loves the depth and expansive story discussion here!
@johnracine4589
@johnracine4589 4 месяца назад
You should read the books! They’re incredible!
@collins7426
@collins7426 4 месяца назад
George does not care about us or the books anymore it doesn’t take this long to write a book
@rexrivers2220
@rexrivers2220 4 месяца назад
I love the theory of Nymeria but I’m going to be hella sad as the stark second saying goes “The lone wolf dies, but the packs survives.” Who left of the stark wolf pack again • ghost (at the wall) • Nymeria ((riverlands)) • Summer (( beyond the wall)) • shaggy dog (( Skagos)) Is this correct?
@CSNA_Gaming
@CSNA_Gaming 4 месяца назад
I believe so.
@onyedikachukwumiracle
@onyedikachukwumiracle 4 месяца назад
We deserve the Winds of Winter, GRRM must finish the books
@username.exenotfound2943
@username.exenotfound2943 4 месяца назад
careful you will have his fanboys saying you dont deserve anything from him and shit when all george has to do is say he cant finish the books and people will just go on their merry way
@capnstewy55
@capnstewy55 3 месяца назад
I think you nailed it.
@PelosiStockPortfolio
@PelosiStockPortfolio 4 месяца назад
My cousin fought cancer for 3 years waiting for this book. It never came out and he died
@NR-rv8rz
@NR-rv8rz 4 месяца назад
I truly wish you would do Dune lore videos.
@bronhaller
@bronhaller 2 месяца назад
Prester choosing not to order Jeyne's shooting is quite possible. His reaction to Jaime bringing her up was surprise and shock at the idea of "sweet Jeyne" being dangerous, so it would fit if he does let her escape if the train were to be attacked
@stephaniespain9849
@stephaniespain9849 4 месяца назад
I love these videos. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
@nastropc
@nastropc 4 месяца назад
The publishers should definitely get Robert as a consultant to whomever they pick to finish writing the books after GRRM’s inevitable massive heart attack.
@short11000
@short11000 4 месяца назад
Yes, I do agree. That explanation was chilling. I was shaking in my slippers. OMG! 😯🤫
@lukealdridge4407
@lukealdridge4407 4 месяца назад
Robert Baratheon?
@bigbossvi429
@bigbossvi429 4 месяца назад
I think I read he has prepared for that not to happen. He taking it to the grave.
@rollinronin8125
@rollinronin8125 4 месяца назад
He will continue on through AI in the Metaverse.
@viperswhip
@viperswhip 4 месяца назад
GRRM has said he will not allow someone to finish it. But we can all just ask ChatGPT to write the next couple of books for us haha I can imagine a Reddit thread where people collate the best bits from everyone's attempt at getting the books done and we end up with something epic.
@iDuckman
@iDuckman 4 месяца назад
Damn, Geek, you make me want to return to the books. But I'm older now and I think I'll wait until WoW actually sees print.
@apstrike
@apstrike 4 месяца назад
The worst thing is we'll never know because GRRM's position is if he doesn't finish his work then no one will.
@stevencarver-fd8ii
@stevencarver-fd8ii 4 месяца назад
14:32 I do love the idea of the super pack getting involved.
@moose2_the_o756
@moose2_the_o756 Месяц назад
A common theme in the prologues that you didn't mention is that books 1, 3, and 5 include the Others. While books 2 and 4 included a maester (or maester in training). I wouldn't be surprised if the POV was a minor maester who dies somehow.
@thejoseonone
@thejoseonone 4 месяца назад
The prologue will be everyone died of old age because they were waiting for the story to be finished
@TacticalStrudel
@TacticalStrudel 4 месяца назад
There won’t be a winds of winter, George doesn’t give a shit about finishing
@whu-dunn17
@whu-dunn17 4 месяца назад
Thanks for your work! We will get this book one way or another, so let's hope for the best
@alexandermendez4653
@alexandermendez4653 2 месяца назад
It alternates between north of the wall and a maester or someone studying to be a maester. Maesters are good povs because of their proximity to important people. If Jeyne will be in the prologue, then it will be whatever Maester is closest to her.
@johnpotts8308
@johnpotts8308 4 месяца назад
While I doubt the Brotherhood would attack 400 men, a smaller force can successfully ambush a larger one if they attain surprise (and this is the Blackfish's country). Perhaps Nymeria's wolf pack attacks the Lannister camp throwing it into chaos and the Blackfish/Brotherhood uses the opportunity to rescue Edmure and/or Jeyne. The problem with that is it requires a degree of co-ordination between Nymeria and the Blackfish/Brotherhood, neither of which seems particularly likely (unless we go with the old stand by, "Bloodraven did it").
@momof5dragons46
@momof5dragons46 3 месяца назад
So glad we'll get some insight about the wolves. They are such huge part of the story and they deserve a conclusion. Particularly Nymeria
@LusiaEyre
@LusiaEyre 4 месяца назад
Actually, where does Jayne fit in the world right now? Her family are Lannister loyalists. She was married to Robb for a short time, is not pregnant, and as far as she's aware, all Starks are dead (at least presumed dead). Tullys are distant kin through marriage, out of power and luck. Her prolonged stay with her was necessitated by circumstances. If the pack frees her and Edmure, where she goes next? Does she tag along with Edmure and goes somewhere? The secretly living Starks don't know her, should she go North and barter a place with them as Robb's widow to live with them for the rest of her life? Does she aim for the Wall and Jon, Robb's much loved brother? She is only 15 or 16, she could live a long life still that would make this entire thing but a blip. Is surrendering to her mother the best for her, after all? She could be a marriage option for the next Lord of Winterfell, had Rickon been older than 6. But Catelyn went from Brandon to Ned, could being matched with Jon be Jayne's fate? Could she fake an heir or be convinced to fake an heir?
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 4 месяца назад
We’ll never know will we
@williammitchell6375
@williammitchell6375 4 месяца назад
It is NEVER coming out. EVER.😅
@hic_tus
@hic_tus 4 месяца назад
no chance🤣
@TrevorStandley
@TrevorStandley 3 месяца назад
It's one super-pac I can get behind.
@Smarterthanyew
@Smarterthanyew 4 месяца назад
What if he's actually been writing the last TWO books and he hits us with a massive surprise. It would explain the timescale. He could then release them a year apart and have everyone shook
@johnracine4589
@johnracine4589 4 месяца назад
From what he’s said about writing, going back, rewriting etc I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s working on the last book but occasionally has to go back to WoW and change things so the end makes sense. Writing both at the same time basically so he doesn’t back himself into a corner.
@Smarterthanyew
@Smarterthanyew 4 месяца назад
@@johnracine4589 let us hope, hey
@qdlaty23
@qdlaty23 3 месяца назад
Oh you sweet summer child, bless your heart
@maribusa
@maribusa 4 месяца назад
11:56 Arya’s Super PAC
@TheMe9595
@TheMe9595 3 месяца назад
I hadn't seen that quote about who would be in the prologue, but I thought it would be cool to have a prologue of some of the Nights Watch people John sends to Hardholm. Either as a survivor or getting there too late and seeing all the wights rise up.
@stevebousfield1002
@stevebousfield1002 Месяц назад
I remember a quote from the big man himself that we will see casterly rock. So I think the opening chapter will be set there and will include some sort of attack from the iron born. Giving us our widow and setting us up for more pirate shenanigans which WoW will surely include.
@stevebousfield1002
@stevebousfield1002 Месяц назад
Also dance and feast start at the same time.
@darkjezter1980
@darkjezter1980 4 месяца назад
Joke's on you. GRRM will never finish The Winds of Winter.
@RolandRees
@RolandRees 4 месяца назад
He, GRRM, has no intention of finishing the last two books! He has no financial incentive now.
@la_scrittice_vita
@la_scrittice_vita 4 месяца назад
Just a thought: the prologue POV character might not die because she is already dead.
@FULANODETAL
@FULANODETAL 4 месяца назад
what will be release first...star citizen or Winds of winter?
@dakotademery3649
@dakotademery3649 3 месяца назад
I always love your videos! Could you make a video explaining warging in depth?
@LovelyCentaur-or5qd
@LovelyCentaur-or5qd 4 месяца назад
I liked this. I was really into it, by the time I realised it wasn't GRRM himself talking about the prologue 😅
@WhoIsCalli
@WhoIsCalli 3 месяца назад
Will be a fun read for sure
@LoLotov
@LoLotov 4 месяца назад
Hadn't occurred to me before, but a Jeyne prologue where she's captured by and meets lady stoneheart, revealing the fates of pod and hyle hunt, would be fantastic whether she lives or dies.
@TerenceGrimstone
@TerenceGrimstone 4 месяца назад
I hope the Blackfish is the prologue. I loved Kevan being an epilogue character since he is a character that we have seen quite a lot of before his epilogue and I still remember how i felt way back when i saw him as the POV to the epilogue.
@moldyketchuphead
@moldyketchuphead 4 месяца назад
The Arya quote also hints at a tree watching the wolves. It's possible even that Bran uses some tree magic to aid the wolf pack in their attack on the Lanister force heading to Casterly Rock. I just don't recall exactly what sort of magic he might use or what sort of things he could know about that Lanister force.
@honeywine3166
@honeywine3166 4 месяца назад
The prologue POV cannot be a noble. Every prologue POV has been a commoner. So, I think the POV will be a Lannister soldier or one of Forley Prester's men
@northbeach32
@northbeach32 4 месяца назад
We gotta start being honest about winds never being released
@Lotschi
@Lotschi 4 месяца назад
What a masterpiece of a video, once again!
@Chrisytigers
@Chrisytigers 4 месяца назад
Its honestly just a race against his health, i some times think things like him wanting 2 be mre like Tolken put Winds in his will... sick of getting hopes up and impossible puting it in the back of ur mind coz spot on vids like this pop up every week. Pffffttt 🤞
@00Kuja00
@00Kuja00 4 месяца назад
What do you mean? Tolkien finished his work, the Lord of the Rings.
@burntorangehorn
@burntorangehorn 4 месяца назад
​@@00Kuja00 That was one book. He left many things unfinished, hence the existence of things like Unfinished Tales and the Silmarillion.
@00Kuja00
@00Kuja00 4 месяца назад
@@burntorangehorn I know. Some were not even meant to be published. My point is Tolkien finished his story, the rest is more his life's work that he started long before LotR even came into his mind.
@San_Vito
@San_Vito 3 месяца назад
@@00Kuja00 Tolkien had planned to publish a Silmarillion even before publishing LotR. It was basically as published (some details likely would've changed), but with the three main stories (Beren & Luthien, the story of Turin and then The Fall of Gondolin) taking several pages like The Hobbit. He never finished it. A lot of that stuff was meant to be published at some point.
@00Kuja00
@00Kuja00 3 месяца назад
@@San_Vito Reading some of his letters, and his son's reasoning in each new published work I got a different view. But ofc I could be wrong. My point is that LotR was finished, and the rest was more Tolkien's life work/legacy which in it's nature "would never be finished" so to speak.
@burntorangehorn
@burntorangehorn 4 месяца назад
The wolf pack attacks the convoy and kills almost everyone, but Nymeria sniffs Jane Stark and senses the Stark embryo, letting her live. But then Jane is stranded alone in the middle of nowhere and dies of exposure.
@nowaythishappened
@nowaythishappened 4 месяца назад
I think logic dictates that the Blackfish will be attacking the wagon train and continue to follow the last command of his king (protect the Queen).
@SamButler22
@SamButler22 4 месяца назад
I think having the wolf pack appear in any prominent way later in the story will require a reintroduction and the prologue would be a great place for that
@viperswhip
@viperswhip 4 месяца назад
Maybe I will come back to this video in 20 years to see if it was accurate. In any case, I can imagine the wolves killing every scout and outrider, allowing the Tullies to hit them by surprise at night.
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