What would make JKD the best Self Defense art with Icy Mike  

I say a lot of things.

What I really like and respect is that Icy Mike keeps saying that it’s ok to practice martial arts just because someone enjoys it or likes it, there’s nothing wrong with that. Huge respect to anyone who agrees with him

I believe if Bruce Lee was alive to see what JKD he would be a little sad. His art has not evolved since his death. I believe if it did evolve, it would be very similar to modern day MMA with a Bruce Lee twist. Though his philosophy has been and will remain timeless.

I think part of the contrast between martial arts really does come down to fighters rather than styles, and not just in the obvious sense where gifted athletes or naturally combative people have advantages in fighting over other people, and will tend to excel regardless of what style they study. That sense is kind of a cop-out, because you can pick a martial arts style to study, but you can't pick what natural advantages to have. But, when it comes down to it, whether you pick a specific martial art and decide whether or not to stick with it *also* depends a lot on your natural assets. If you're long and lanky and don't have a lot of explosive power, and you want to learn wrestling, maybe you try to join a team in high school, and you get sidelined because you're just not very good at it, so you quit and do something else. If you want to learn boxing, but you're short, stout, and slow, you can join a gym and they probably won't tell you to stop training, because your money is as good as anyone else's, but you're probably more likely to get discouraged if you keep losing in sparring to all your gym-mates. And of course, whether you pick a fantastical style with a lot of woo, or something with a lot of pressure testing and hard sparring against other practitioners, depends a lot on your own personality and what kind of training environment appeals to you. Wrestlers on average have a major self-defense advantage over karateka in that, if you're the sort of person who'd stick six months with a serious wrestling program, it's pretty likely that you were already more athletic, competitive and determined than the average student who sticks around half a year at your average commercial karate school.

As someone who did JKD and transitioned to Dutch Kickboxing and muay thai, I find JKD pops up here and there. Split entries and such take my kickboxing brethren by surprise.

A specific comment about framing. I train in a Chinese style that teaches framing. I was doing my shoot (which is only mediocre) and my fellow students were trying to frame and failing. When the head of the style came in, we asked him about it. He watched. And said: You aren't getting your center below his. You just slide over. He had me try. I am not fast but I get really low. And he matched me. Also stopped me in my tracks. He was as low as I was. And also framed line a forearm strike that smashed into me from sternum to collarbone. The primary factors being matching my depth, which I didn't see in the video. A slight off angle. And striking with the forearm. It's not better or worse than a sprawl. It's just when to use it.

Mike had a really great comment about Ninjutsu and its effectiveness in that video. One of the most important things about 'self-defense' is situational awareness and getting the hell out of dodge when things look like they're going to get hairy. If you spend all your time training sensitivity and situational awareness, like Ninjutsu claims to, then you'll be better at avoiding problems than someone who's looking to test their martial art on some bad guy. Mr. Miyagi said it best: Best defense, no be there.

This is a great video. And thank you, this reflects much of my own journey in my teens and twenties. When I was in high school in the 80s I started with Tae Kwon Do as my base. I got in a fight and I backfisted and groin kicked a wrestler, and he took me down with a double leg takedown, just like Icy Mike described. So I asked one of my wrestling buddies about how to defend against a double leg takedown and he taught me to sprawl. I took Judo to have some bit of ground game. Then I got in another fight and with someone with really quick hands, so I learned some Wing Chun and boxing to give myself some trapping and short range capability. I joined the Navy when I was 19, and got in some altercations with weapons, so I worked out with more guys to try to plug the holes. While I was stationed on a ship I studied Aikido for two years with a guy who was also a high school wrestler. Then studied JKD with one of Paul Vunak's students, and he was incorporating BJJ (this was mid 90s, just as MMA was starting to get popular) to add the ground game to JKD. Vunak was really into headbutts, knees, and elbows, so I learned to flow from trapping to muay thai style clinch work. So basically I took the path that Icy Mike described. So, that's my TED Talk to say, that this really resonated with me. Thank you!

One criterion they used when making the list that Mike forgot to mention and is super important is that it would be the average dojo for an average student and not the best dojo or an exceptional student.

Yep, that video Mike did with Rokas was great. And this was a great follow up as well. Can't state enough how much I love the two of you together, such great banter alongside banger content 👌🏼

By the time I got to minute 4 I was thinking "much of what Mike is talking about appears (I think) in Bruce Lee's Fighting Method... so a competent Jeet Kune Do instructor would've been updating those defences as necessary, don't you think?

I would say another couple of criteria that need to be taught to be self defense are: -escape from under someones mount while being attacked -getting up from the ground safely while being attacked

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"You learn martial arts, you cobble them together into your own self defense thing." There. You just described the essence of what Bruce (probably) intended JKD to be. There's a reason why he kept adding things to the system until his death.

This is spot on!!!!

This is why I got into wrestling, and then got into JKD... I know how to counter a grapple... Plus, if you ever run at me, bad idea, because if I see you coming, I'm going to have the advantage, simply because I'll use your own inertia against you. My reaction time is fast. So, here is a warning to anyone who thinks they can attack me... You might wanna think twice, or u'll end up hurting or worse, accidentally, on purpose. I don't wanna hurt anyone, but will if needed. And accidents happen. I've accidentally broke my own cousin's nose in a play fight.

I totally agree especially with today's way of fighting

Love the content and crossover man keep it up!

Love open minded and honest martial arts discussions Same goes for self defense.

Self defense, preservation of tradition, combat sport, are all different applications of martial arts, "outputs" if you will. Your choice of output affects the way you train, how you plan your strategies and how you apply your skills. So I agree with you both that all the arts that was mentioned have something lacking in terms of self defense, but like you mentioned, everyone (well almost) would not admit their style is incomplete

Was waiting to see everyone else's opinion but turns out i'm first.

What would make JKD the best Self Defense art? Wrestling. Even Bruce Lee when he was in America realized pretty much all Americans needed was Wrestling + Boxing. That was his conclusion of being over here. A very obvious one too.

One of the categories I add in is Duelling. So many upper level techniques aren't general self defense but defeating a peer opponent. As a note about framing... The primary issue is the body mass drop, just like the sprawl. If you have time to sprawl, you have time to do a good frame. Which is getting weight and center equal or lower to than the wrestler. And drive it in with a good forearm strike. They both work. Pick your money and take your chances. Late Pick up, I tend to go for an inner thigh sacrifice throw and then into ground work. Another late pickup option is driving their forehead into the ground. Which hurts a lot more than on mats. It's also prefaced by being comfortable with grappling. The big thing I saw missing was the lack of angling off before eye jab dick kick. No getting off the X. Plus assumption that it works. Dick kicks take a few seconds to work. There are a lot of options, depending on skill set. I agree with Icy Mike. Make sure the art has ways to deal with the most common, dangerous stuff. Many solutions. Just have one that is pressure tested and works. I got a huge chuckle out of: Hey, we have self defense on our buildings. I got a Krav Maga certificate just for marketing purposes. Not that KM is bad. Just that anyone who has been around a while can do it. Great and fun video. I just found out you are only 6 hours away. That's in easy seminar range. Love to meet and train sometime in the future!

Sage is the one whom knows the dangers of Buffalo Wild Wings! 🤣 Great Vid! Also, if you do get taken down, hug their head to your torso, free your arm, and rain dropping (vertical) elbows into the top of their head, or their spine... it's hard to pass the guard when you're actively losing teeth and/or IQ points. By engaging the core, one can generate great power with a vertical elbow, even on ones back. I always teach that the ground is where you go to die. if you're outnumbered or your foe is armed, once you're on the ground your likelihood of survival plummets sharply.

I disagree with the sprawl from wrestling (and I wrestled a long time) when it comes to striking, that sprawl is designed to work against the very specific deep stance of wrestling. If there is striking involved (where you're very upright) trying to pull of the sprawl is about not going to work it's just to slow to see it then pull it off. But are other things like throwing your hip forward into the shot that will stop a shot cold that still works while standing. Double Leg Defense by Kyle Dake has some ideas that would work better when striking.

So are you guys and Seth located all really close to each other? It would be a blast to come down and train!

I choose to like this. I choose to comment. I choose to Subscribe. I choose to call Mike an asshole every time he's right.

MMA fighters tend to stop after an eye poke or groin strike. So perhaps, if those techniques works on pros, it will also work on a kid who wrestles in high school for a year.

I train specifically to protect my buffalo wings

Mike also said "Kali sticks are awful self defence weapons because they are too light". * Spamface moment

Hi Ed, Great collaboration with IcyMike! it would be interesting to see your thoughts on Bruce's Self Defence volume in his Bruce Lee's Fighting Methods series because Bruce does have some responses there that I don't think most JKD guys cover.

So fun!

Bruce Lee is quoted many times as saying that the first art he wanted his son Brandon to learn is Judo, which deals with the inevitable grappling situations. However JKD DOES have the sprawl. How do I know?? Have you read the multiple volumes of his book Bruce Lee's Fighting Methods by M. Uyehara? In it you see Bruce Lee actually demonstrating a defense against a tackle with a wrestling sprawl. So Bruce already practiced the sprawl. Now, why are modern day JKD practitioners not doing it? That's on them, that's not on Bruce because Bruce already included it way back in the 1960s.

Good stuff.

Wrestling is the most-practiced martial art in the USA, simply by the numbers. To me, the #1 thing you have to be prepared to deal with as far as self-defense goes is if a big, aggressive human male shoots a double on you.

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buffalo wild wings lol

I thinks that these two are very talented Martial artists. I'd love to see these guys spar because I can see myself learning a lot from these two gentlemen👍💯🙏

6:38 Yes it does. We have QUAN SAO? ✅We have HARM JAANG ✅

But your statement about the timeline is very accurate. Traditional martial arts is entirely more time consuming, but it also has much higher potential than the modern approaches to training. But undedicated people should avoid arts like that as they won't receive much results

At the end of the day, I think there are really two kinds of martial arts, strikers and grapplers. I'm not saying that there aren't nuance but you only have two arms and two legs. Because of that fightings styles aren't really that "different", since there's only so much range of motions that you limbs can make

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Hey Ed! Not sure if you have beef with Carruthers lineage of JKD, but one of his students started to extend 'closest tech, nearest target' concept against a double leg. Video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2MJh-8u8fK0.html (In case you don't allow links search title 'BRUCE LEE'S NO FIGHTING STYLE BUT HOW? - Jeet Kune Do') What curriculum version do you mean when 'JKD doesn't do any of those things'? Sometime in the 60's or another iteration edited by Inosanto or Balicki? Politeness edit: Thank you for the collab with Mike (You'll also notice my comment on that linked video which still pending an answer on the robustness of his ground recovery curriculum.)

This is always interesting, because I did varsity wrestling in high school for 3 years, but I never felt like I could fight.

The answer is the same across all martial arts, to focus more on the internal or "soft" power of martial arts. If you do not have use of that you can never be truly great

I am curious, doesn't Jeet Kun Do also cover fighting with and against sticks and knives and improvised weapons? Addendum: Would combining Jeet Kun Do with Combat Sambo cover all 6 raised points?

fucking amazing video!

My personal issue with jkd, and this is also true for many other styles that are not that competition based: the quality differs to much. You can be in a great school and be a legit fighter, or you can be a glorified larper. That is why even though good jkd is great, for a complete novice without extra information about the clubs I would rather send them towards muay thai, savate, judo, boxing, bjj, wrestling, etc. because the quality of the training is just so much more consistent. Then chances of him/her ending up at a bad school is much smaller due to competiton being an inherent factor to the training and weeding out the larpers.

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Well a lot of it relies on interception , so you already need to train that ability first . The ability to intercept is a preemptive strike requiring the skill to read … but does that work against feints in boxing and do you have the speed because if not you can get knocked out

Id say addressing punches to the face is the bare minimum Id want if I was learning for self defence. I live in England where people don't wrestle, if someone shoots a double leg on me it means that they are a trained fighter and I'm in trouble, whereas, in the US you just need to have been to school and you might know how to wrestle. As far as i'm concerned, if someone has a weapon and is simply out to kill you then you're going to die.

I like the theoretical side of jkd in that one should build your own thing. I don't agree with the idea of "jkd" as a style, if that makes sense.

Bruce's master had a habit of saying things and not explaining what they mean, it was up to you to figure out what he meant by it and all of those old "make you think" sayings have physical applications to martial arts

4:32 You’ve never been in a street fight. Wow. Impressive. That’s good. I think anyways. 💥㊙️💯

7:27, jkd teaches us to pop our hips back and to spread like butter.

I thought if jkd as ranked with mma. The same.

If you want to REALLY train line Bruce Lee as for what he taught HIMSELF, you will also take judo. No or wasn't part of his "official curriculum" but it was something he did. He reached a colored belt of some sort, not sure which color as it was a black and white photo.

If your front groin kick gets caught like that, you really should work more on the execution of it. Also, if it fails, you attack next targets on the same principals of simplicity, directness and efficiency. Its all laid out in JKD, main targets, progressive weapon charts, principals. You really dont need other martial arts to complement JKD, or adding more. Daily decrease instead of daily increase,

So you teach Jeet kune do, which was always supposed to be a mixture of techniques from different martial arts, and was supposed to keep growing to become better. Now you have figured out the shortcomings of it, and train in BJJ to overcome them... So just incorporate those techniques into JKD? Doing this, you would make 'JKD' better by adding in the sprawl, and when other JKD instructors (the good ones) see you doing this, they will do it too. Overall, it would still be called JKD, with the techniques you learn in BJJ

The other issue with using jkd, is that people sell and practice it as a "style" which totally defeats the purpose of what Bruce was trying to communicate. Bruce just didn't get to physically elaborate on those finer details. He daveled in most. Of those styles in some way. And that's what he tried to display in his films. There a little bit of each those 6 elements you talked about. He just unfortunately passed away before he could develop it better. Jkd isn't a style, it's a collaboration of many styles to make someone a well adapted fighter/defender. Not to mention aggression. Mma and krav maga are essentially what jkd was trying to do. But again, people still think jkd is it's own style, which it isn't. Someone's jkd may be different from another's. As Bruce once said, "take what is useful, discard what isn't, add what is your own."

What is the JKD expert's credential? He seems to have a krav maga background, not necessarily a JKD background.

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Liked the content but thought odd that in this "self-defense" video you're both wearing sparring gloves.

Seems fair.

it's shocking to me, that almost 51 years after Bruce's passing, and people still don't understand Jeet Kune do....

Missing context at the 2:10 mark. It’s far easier to find a good wrestling or boxing gym than a JKD school. Why? Well because the people that teach JKD aren’t teaching students to do it like Bruce did. Except for one guy in Glasgow, Scotland named Tommy Carruthers. He addresses all potential attacks and defense with hands, feet, knees, elbows, or grabs/takedowns. 99% of JKD schools are bad wing chun, bad kickboxing or a combination of both. And very few train hard enough to make anything work. Which separates the skill even further.

Can icy mike stop Mike tyson?

JKD was evolved by one guy, who died before he could adapt it more. And though Bruce Lee was a legend, he was still just a guy like the rest of us. He wasn't Chuck Norris! 😜

Jeet Kune Do is Top on the List because you can study all arts. The End.

I would of gave it a D

There are many fight videos available. Can you post a link to the videos where somewhere got hit with either a good eye jab or groin kick and kept fighting? I have seen videos where a single eye jab instantly ends the fight. And in JKD your close-up weapons include elbows and knees so if someone dove down to grab your kegs, should they somehow survive both an eye jab and a groin kick, you should knee them to the face as they drop down and I am pretty sure that could not only knock them out it could kill them.

You guys are awesome both of you. It is frustrating to know that the version of JKD dougs getting isn’t exactly top rate. I don’t understand you saying what you said about JKD not being good for self defense? Huh? Have you seen what we can do? 🐉I think you may be spending to much time play fighting n sparring. MMA has referees and rounds. Weight classes and rules. Jeez. I wish I could hip you guys to the reality of it. It’s effective and vicious. ☮️✅💥㊙️💯🐉

This is such a limited point of view.. on JKD , kinda crazy to say JKD isnt a self defense art. Its roots are MMA , wrestling being part of , BJJ later adopted after. Kali adopted after.. boxing, wing chun , fencing at its roots in addition to other arts. Hence what maybe the problem is the way JKD is taught or portrayed. Its a street fighting art , but its also in movies. Its also used in MMA , its been adopted by the US military! Come on.. its USE CASES are wide. One can argue that most may not practice it in this manner for self defense but as an Art. That doesn't change however its origins and functional approach to fighting or self defense. The criteria or ranges should include MASS ATTACK , and Scenario training not mentioned in this vid. I get the video but.. yea nah respectfully disagree.

WTF? Two adults having a sane discussion with each other? What’s wrong with you? You’re ruining the internet.

It goes without saying S: Ameri-do-te, everything else is bullshit :-). You guys should do a Collab with master ken :-)

So if a jkd guy fights a woman is he half as effective? No balls to kick.

God i hope i can see how many dislike. I miss the old days loool

I don't think wrestling is not good at any point . Ok ok for a sport but for a defense I'm not sure if I would agree . Just like MMA practitioner's if someone had a knife that wasn't exposed and you bring them down you might be where you don't want to be . And I disagree with Icy Mike . Get a good eye poke no one is wrestling no one and I will prove that theory with anyone who wants to disagree with me on that issue . Here the real issues on self defense can you ( people ) commit to really hurt someone to the point that it might be life altering ? Just like carrying a gun can you really pull that trigger and at what point does a person deemed to pull such a weapon ? When you get bitch slapped or if something on you got injured to a point where the fight is out of you ? The thing about this video made me think on this subject 🤔 . So I thought of a few points here , find out which is the predominant hand hurt it then injure a knee or ankle . Because my opinion if you don't pull that gun right out of the gate your at a loss for that option go ahead try to wrestle then if you neede that gun have fun trying to grab it while wrestling someone you just might get injured even more doing so . And throw a eye poke prior before getting a wrestling take down . I say b.s. ! Eye pokes stops MMA fighting style in it tracks everytime . Like yeah ok I poked your eye then I'm just gonna stand there and let you go for a wrestling move on me lol lol that's not realistic . Go for a eye injury once someone knows they hurt ya here comes the beat down . I think a gun is useless if you don't pull it right out before the combat begins . The gun should always be your 1st option always if not why carry it then ? It's like having unprotected sex then say wait let me put on a condem it might be a little to late for the condem . Please do a video on this matter and no not with sex and a condem . But a attack then trying to pull a gun when your getting your ass handed to ya . Try it with a paint ball gun or a water pistol with color dye water in it . Cause once you go pass kicking range into trapping or punching range that gun is no longer a option......

I think that bit where you said JKD is not self defense it's just fun - is mighty disrespectful, bro. Just because muyi thai, boxing, wrestling and especially bjj(-.-) advertise themselves better, doesn't mean that a JKD practitioner can't kick their ass. I've learned PLENTY of things in a JKD school which helped me easily win a streetfight against a karate blackbelt with a DECADE PLUS less time spend on the art. Too bad the school closed and an MMA one was open instead, but nevertheless, JKD was eye opening for me in that half a year I was there it became part of my instincts. So much so that when the aforementioned asswipe wanted a brawl he had his ass handed to him. And I admit - I suck at fighting. :) Anyhow, I would love to see you elaborate on that sentence, since JKD is just a beautiful battle system.

Its honestly crazy how bs this video is lol. The man advocating JKD has said wrong information for pretty much everything about JKD. JKD is about having no limitations. Taking what is useful and disregarding what isn't for a street fight. This includes Thai strikes, western boxing, Chinese boxing, judo, and bjj. For anyone saying that JKD has bad ground fighting, you need to rethink this. Rickson Gracie was one of the best ground fighters of all time and was around 450 wins with less then 10 losses. His main moves he specialized in was the rear naked choke, arm bar, and leg lock. All of that is incorporated in JKD. Hard2Hurt may have some good guidance and wisdom when it comes to street fighting experience, but he doesn't know shit about JKD and what a real JKD specialist can do. Talk to the real practitioners like Paul Vunak and Dan inosanto. Do not listen to Metrolina Martial Arts when he talks about JKD. Please don't fill your mind with this garbage.

Bruce Lee was totally overated. Most people don't see that because they can't separate him from his movies. And just follow hero worship because of what they see on screen. In his "fighting method" books which contained his master formula for street defence supposedly; there was NOTHING about the ground. No ground defence at all. Bruce was good and did a lot to bring martial arts to the publics attention, but in my opinion, he was not the amazing fighter people think he was. Heck, if he knew all about the ground and its importance he would have added it in his book and I don't think you would have had his two top students i.e. Dan Inosanto and Chuck running to train and learn from the Gracies in the art of Gracie Jiu Jitsu. I just think the Gracie family are so dignified and show a lot of humility and respect to Bruce when the argument of "How good was Bruce" argument comes up. They could rip it to shreds if they wanted.

I’m sure it’s been said, but Bruce Lee did put in his books that you should study all of those things that Icy Mike mentions. Even wrestling is in there. I believe JKD was just to stack on top of the rest.

Bruce regretted using a name for his ever-evolving approach to fighting, but I think JKD can be best summed up by one of his own quotes -- "Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." Had Bruce lived, he undoubtedly would have continued to evolve his art, and I imagine he would have a style that looks a lot like today's MMA (I also think he would have been a huge fan of MMA and a regular guest commentator for the UFC). As far as I'm concerned, the person who has evolved JKD in a way that Bruce probably would have after coming into contact with BJJ is Paul Vunak, one of Dan Inosanto's OG students. I know that Vunak has become a controversial figure (he seems to piss off a lot of his students and somewhat shamelessly promote the contract he had for teaching combatives to SEAL Team 6, which probably pissed off the Navy), but he's retained a good bit of Bruce's techniques and concepts (namely the eye jab and straight blast) and integrated them into a modern MMA paradigm with a heavy amount of FMA to address weapons. The Dog Brothers, who were students of both Inosanto and Vunak, have done much to evolve JKD as well, but I think Vunak's JKD is more in line with Bruce's way of moving and conceptualizing self-defense. And notice that I wrote "Vunak's JKD" -- the beauty of JKD is that you take what Bruce gave us and make it your own with an eternal commitment to open-minded physical, philosophical, and spiritual evolution. Thanks for continuing to represent JKD honorably! Bruce's approach to the martial arts will always be useful to all of us!

Food For Thought: Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.

I'm nearly 60. I started boxing at 8 and I've trained in many styles including kung-fu, karate, trad jujitsu, bjj and, muay thai... and the best all round comprehensive and all inclusive training I ever did was with Bob Breens JKD academy in London uk. JKD is the original MMA.. it's a synthesis of what works and is brilliant for self defense.

I'm gonna beat the shit out of a dead horse here. The best self defense leads to the least amount of people getting hurt. So not fighting at all is the highest goal. People give "traditional" martial arts a hard time, but honestly? Most of them go for that highest goal. Aikido, Hapkido, Shotokan, etc. all teach to be kind, respectful and peaceful. If shit does hit the fan, they'll be in trouble, but they are way less likely to even get into a bad situation.

kali (stick and knife ), thai boxing , weston boxing , bjj ..covers it all for the street

Great video boys, the subject matter reminded me of my eldest brother. When I was a kid he was a doorman (a bouncer as we say in the UK). He studied karate for many years, he also boxed, kick boxing, even some judo. He was always looking to add new things to what became 'his way' of fighting, which was always field tested regularly on a Friday or Saturday night at the club, when a alcohol fuelled customer decides to have a go at him.

Paul Vunak added BJJ and Kali in 80s , most of his instructors are BJJ BB or Brown belts , Also most are skilled Kali instructors as well .

I studied JKT for a year and what I remember most about it was it was a blend of different martial arts for dealing with different situations: for mid/short range/clinch striking it drew a lot from Muay Thai, ground work was a blend if wrestling and jiu jitsu, and I peaked just starting to learn knife fighting which drew from arnis. The primary philosophy of JKT I was taught was, inflict as much pain with as little effort as possible to 1) discourage your opponent from continuing the fight and 2) giving yourself the opportunity to escape. So thats probably a long winded way if saying I agree whole heartedly with the message of this video that practical self defense comes from lots of different techniques and arts to be able to deal with different practical situations you would encounter in a street fight.

“I’m gonna be Frank, even though I’m Ed.” Beat me by one second.

A single/double leg take down is great. But this just doesn’t quantify a “if you do this then this happens” in the moment. Move out of damn way, there’s tons of ways to kick a crotch rather than trying to bulldoze someone bigger faster stronger than you. It’s definitely a possibility- but ruling out this is going to be the reaction to even a skilled fighter every time should not be the end of the conversation. It’s unfortunate you usually see JKD people on the net throw the first hit out like it’s a feint. In order for a lot of stuff to actually work outside of basic striking, you need to make them respect your hitting in the first place. This is a fundamental of broken rhythm and fettering Smoke and mirror JKD is 100% bullshit. Hit the guy, and THEN if he reacts kick him right up the middle. Oddly, that same jab and elevation change works for a takedown, too! You see it all the time in sport. That’s the “useful” part that is missing on all these JKD videos. Certain things in certain arts work. It’s not make up whatever you want because you closed your eyes and hail Mary’d a dude to the shadow realm one time. Every art has a truth. Kicking in general is a glass cannon outside of sport. You’re giving up a lot of stability for high risk high reward. If you’re far enough away to be in kicking range you’re probably far enough to hit the gas on that cardio and dip out. I know it’s old video but there’s a lot to dissect here that I hope you revisit. “Drink water.”-Bruce Lee /rant

JKD wouldnt be what is it today if Bruce was alive. Reality is, where was MMA in the 1960s? Jeet Kune Do was MMA. In the 60s to the 90s it was totally forbidden to mix styles or even talk about it. If you tried something different in your DOJO that was a different style, you would be forced to unlearn your ideology by getting the crap kicked out of you. The focus of JKD was to evolve and be a hybrid of martial arts mixing. The evolution of JKD took a fall once he died. JKD didn't know how to express itself and it lost its voice. If only we had a time machine and people could go to a martial arts class in the 60s.

Another good one! Although look into TRUE ninjutsu. Not the American and modern Japanese television version lol.

.....NO STYLE IS THE BEST STYLE, it aready is the best style and MMA proved it. Jkd is not a specific fighting style and this is what I tried to tell Mike years ago. But since it was just one person in the comments, he was a little prick in response

I'm going with you said Facebooks intentially... and yes I laughed. be well.

MMA is not the best... And no where near pinnacle of fighting... If they think that way then there limited is a freakin sport

Buffalo Wild Wings! LOL That was awesome! :) Actually ate there tonight :) But yeah...I can see that LOL Yeah, the issue when many try to do comparisons between different arts is most have only seen the surface or limited amounts of an art and they judge solely on that, which while not usually accurate, is understandable. Bottom line...no Art is complete, although I do believe JKD is very effective in the street but yes, does have some shortcomings. In my opinion, and that of Navy Seal Pat Trey (I'm sure Guru Balicki has mentioned this to you) Kali comes the closest and Silat is up there as well. That's why I like the near perfect Trifecta that Guro Inosanto teaches of blending the 3 :)

Any style is a concept. JKD is a concept of simplicity, directness and efficiency, economy of motion. -Thomas marx