What You Don't Know About the Mughal Empire 

The time he said #Jesus_Christ Everything became automatically crystal clear and his intentions and cherry picking history 😂

His first point is true, that they lost because India was 50 small kingdoms who didn't unite together against the common enemy. Both the Muslims and British used pre existing wars and rivalries to gain power. But saying that India was weakened because of a horse sacrifice is a deceiptful and demeaning way to frame it.

*Dear Bharatiye, Don’t fall for this* What Vishal is doing is simple: Remove leftist/Islamic narrative and replace it by Christian narrative. Both are not Indian narrative.

I wish jp had a better panelist to speak about indian history.

Dr Peterson... I have been listening to your talks and reading your works since 2018... I love you and respect you for your authenticity, power of articulation, intellectual rigour, openness to new ideas, depth of knowledge, and wisdom that appeals all age groups... I just have one appeal to you... please explore India, it's culture, it's history, it's knowledge and spiritual heritage, it's challenges and opportunities from primary sources... your guest in this podcast is providing inaccurate, incomplete and coloured picture of this most ancient civilisation... in all humility I request you to not rest your understanding of India with this podcast... You may like to invite Swami Sarvapriyananda from the Vedant Society in New York for a in depth conversation... it will be intellectually stimulating and will offer you more comprehensive and inclusive understanding of what India stands for... Please Sir...

Hi Jordan. I am from India. I watch a lot of your videos and I love it. Please don’t go by this man’s version of Indian history. I don’t want you to have a “wrong” view of our beautiful country. Yes, in some pockets, we had some outrageous practices that undermined human dignity, but it went through reforms and now except one or two unfortunate instances there is nothing as of how this gentleman is describing. Request you to listen to other historians as well. And I would like to thank you for making all the amazing videos that you do. More power to you, Jordon ❤

Jordan please do a dive dive on the hindu religious texts without any biased opinions, that coming from u as in a similar way in which u do the Bible series would be amazing

Colonizers after they leave India be like:

I dont think the travencore example is appropriate because it is being generalized that this practice was done throughout India which is not the case. The desire to grab the power within the family still persists without ashwameda yagna in today's age as well, so pointing that yagna was the reason for Muslim takeover is not correct, it was simply the desire of the man and traitors which led to the Muslim rule and eventually British rule. Understanding a religion with bad examples will always point you only in the negative side, for you to understand the whole of religion both positive and negative should be known but in India most the things said about hinduism is by a bad example because of the ulterior motives.

If you are not bias Jordan Peterson then also invite Abhijit Chavda on your podcast to get the real picture of India. But if you only want to know what you like then you can invite more Christian priests like this.

Hello Mr Jordan..Love your work very much. I believe you should definitely have a podcast wit Abhijit Chavda..He is the best in real unbias undistorted history of India.. He is a theoretical physicist..Hope u see my comment. Thanks and Keep well

I don't think the Bible itself had any impact on Indians. But the Indian Penal Code (IPC), which is really the British Penal Code, had tremendous impact on how people realized their own rights and realizing their own value. And if the law system that the British gave India was influenced by the Bible in terms of valuing the individual human being then there was a tremendous impact for sure. I don't think the idea that 'you should not help people who are suffering, because they're meant to suffer' is found anywhere in the Vedic scriptures though. In fact it's the first time I'm hearing that. The original caste system is based on the kind of work you do and the later caste system which is based on birth simply considered some people as superior to others on the basis of family caste! There was no idea of not helping the poor, in fact the kings of Travancore constantly was giving land and other gifts to the poor. Although I'm not sure if the lowest group of castes were included in this program. But the main thing to realize here is that the Hindus are not people who are aware of the Vedic scriptures, only the priests knew. Indians had some practices without knowing the meaning. I t was Adi Shanakaracharya who revived Hinduism and gave it order. Even then, even now it is not taught to Indians like the Bible or Quran was taught to Christians and Muslims. So people had no solid understanding of the Vedas or the Puranas, which contains its essence. I think Hinduism is one of the religions which consider all livings things as the essence of God and that all of them has value. Bhagvat Gita has verses like you can't find complete satisfaction in your life as long as there is dissatisfaction and pain in the world etc.. It's just that no one knows but more importantly no one taught this religiously.

Hindu caste structure has been bred and propagated by the upper-class Indian sections-- priestly class and trading class. It is not as much a religious system as much it is social structure propagated in the name of religion to scare people into subversion because the average person doesn't know religious scripts, so he believes what he's told. In most Hindu traditions, Gods are not judgemental (not to say that there is no idea of judgement and punishment in HiInduism) in nature, the idea of judgement has gotten grip because of modern fusion of Abrahamic religious systems(mostly).

The moment he said jesus Christ is making me preist (not pope), I got his point.

Please invite Rajiv Malhotra or Meenakshi Jain in your podcast. You will be blown away with little truths about ancient India.

Anyone looking for a novel that could add some light on the situation should check Burmese days by Orwell. Two of the main characters argue over the virtue and benefits, or lack of benefits involved with Brittish colonisation. The Indian doctor is very pro England while one of the English sent to run the place is aware of the pitfalls.

Ancient Indians are the only people who successfully resisted the mughals. Every other country spain 15 years Tunisia 10 years. Egypt 20 years, Syria 15 years. Iran 30 years. They were defeated and converted. From the iranian border to India border they took 500 years to reach. 500 years to reach 1100 miles only. Don't preach falsehoods jordan!

Yes, God Shiva listened to prayers of his devotees and sent his part to Maharashtra as Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaja to dismantle the m*ghal rule and rule of avindhyas and his son's soldier Bajirao who is greatest commander in the world did exactly that. And later SadashivraoBhau shattered that Mughal throne. JP you m***n don't listen to that rice bag.

Why do I feel like most of this History is pseudo history.

Dehli Sultanate for 300 years ruled only in the North. and Central India. The South and the West were still under local Hindu Kings. Also, it must be remembered all kings whether Hindus or Muslims ruled with the help of local chieftains. No Sultan or Emperor had a huge army that could control the vast area of India. without the local rulers, an Emperor or Sultan could not rule. Even the British coopted the Marathas, the Nizam, and the Nawabs to rule over India. Most of the Muslims in India have become Muslims during the Muslim Rule. Approximately 30% of the Indian population found Islam, also a monotheistic Abrahamic religion as a more equal way of life. The British ruled for about 200 years and they probably did not find much acceptance for Christianity if only 1 percent of Indians converted to Christianity. The British had built missionary schools in almost all major cities in India.

Please invite Abhijit Chavda, Jeffrey Armstrong and/or other Hindus. Muslim invaders were brutal but they did not bleed India into poverty. European colonizers had so much blood on their hands starting a few years before the start of the Goa Inquisition. Until now with the same proselytizing spirit, they continue to demonize other religions, especially Sanatan Dharma. The historian/philospher Will Durant even said that Britain's plunder of India's wealth that resulted in millions of deaths was the greatest crime in history.

What was right is in people's mind, generation to generation,and that is not for everyone. What was wrong is written and shown.Wrong can't help to improve any community.

“The Vipassana system of meditation is so simple yet profoundly effective that it leaves all forms of western psychotherapy in the kindergarten...... Buddha was a psychologist.” - Simon Garratt (Psychologist) India has some AMAZING psychological / spiritual practices that JP could do well to research via practice (and not just academic learning).

Interesting conversation and I'm trying to keep an open mind. I like a point made by Yogananda nearly a century ago when he was comparing the East and West. He suggested that in the East, people have a much deeper understanding of spirituality and this has led to much better mental health. Westerners visiting India often comment on how happy and content even some of the most impoverished people seem to be. He also acknowledged that the East lacked progress on the material and technological front, as opposed to the West of the early 20th century. This was consequential, mass starvation and suffering, almost no upward mobility in an over-populated subcontinent. He also pointed out that despite so much progress, political freedom and abundance, so many people in the West were suffering from anxiety and neurosis. Desperate for meaning, for a solution. This is what inspired him to come to the West to teach about yoga in an era of little understanding of it. Yogananda also believed that the East and West could have positive influences on one another. Providing balance. That seems to be happening a century later. I think that hatha yoga and meditation for example, is commonplace today in the US and it's had a very positive influence. People make fun of the New Age movement today but much of it brought Eastern thought to the West. Some of it was shallow but some of it was quite good. Alan Watts for example, he changed my thinking a great deal over 30 years ago. In the East, we're seeing rapid growing economies and the rise of a middle class due to globalism, Western capitalism and a system of democracy, at least in India. I don't see much value in arguing that one religion is superior to another and I don't believe it's true. I used to believe that Hinduism and Buddhism were superior to the Abrahamic religions but people like Jordan Peterson have helped to change my mind. I see value in most religions and pagan traditions. The history of the brutal caste system in India may be ignored too often but this is no different than 'white washing' history in the West, and that was quite real not that long ago. I grew up with a romanticized version of history in the 60s and 70s. The sins of the West, so much of it linked to Christianity, doesn't even need explaining. This doesn't invalidate Christianity but the caste system and other methods of oppression doesn't invalidate the ancient teachings of the East. Maybe Gandhi's approach to social revolution, passive resistance, really was based in ancient, Hindu philosophy and it helped to prevent the tragedies that happened in Mao's China, the killing fields of Cambodia or the blood baths following the French and Russian revolutions. Gandhi had a big influence on MLK who made a pilgrimage of sorts to India, to honor Gandhi. Shelby Steele has argued that the Civil Rights Movement in the US destroyed white supremacy worldwide. All over the world, systems of racial superiority are condemned and we've seen real change in countless places even if much more progress needs to happen. Thank you India! Violence brings about more violence, the laws of karma. History validates that truth. I think the difference between Christian 'sin' and Eastern 'karma' is a fascinating debate but I don't see one belief system as superior necessarily. Both belief systems attempt to address what are probably universal truths, they both address cause and effect, good vs evil. Yogananda seemed to believe that the most consequential difference between Eastern and Western religious traditions was a belief in reincarnation, not karma necessarily. People in the West are more driven by a belief in 'one life to live', this has had positive and negative consequences. An almost frantic obsession with progress but maybe this has been at the expense of mental health and social stability. In the East, a belief in countless lifetimes to live may bring about more patience, acceptance of the status quo, meditation and other yoga disciplines that can take a lifetime to master. It may have also led to stagnation, relative to the industrial progress that was centered in the West a century ago. I'm a big fan of Peterson but he does seem to believe that Christianity is the basis for all social progress in the world, it seems to be an argument for religious superiority. I believe it's far more complicated. Christianity isn't going to save the world but the separation of church and state in a society can be a major step forward.

Please get Professor Vikram Sampath to offer an alternative viewpoint

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yes jordan sir you're right , but theres aslo alot of things to consider like Indian history is so complex that understanding it is challenging it's not black and white but rather shades of gray. The same caste system began with the concept of 'equal opportunity for all' and 'meritocracy' but gradually transformed into a rigid birth-based system. This same rigid caste system oppressed not only the lower castes but also oppressed groups like the Rajputs (Warrior Caste), who were forced to participate in wars. Therefore, it is incorrect to claim that only the lower castes were oppressed by the caste system in reality, all castes, including the Rajputs and higher castes, faced oppression.

This is stupid at best Mughal empire was limited to small corner of north india when british arrived Most of the india was under maratha empire Thats why india had two anglo-maratha war And no anglo-mughal wars in east india times

They probably assumed that the translation of the bible could have bring (and it did) heresies, fragmentation and confusion. The bible is not an every one can read book, it takes a lot of knowledge and wisdom to get the message, things that most of people doesn't have. They were guarding the bible for a good reason, but yeah they might have exaggerate.

It's still amazing how the Indian Sanatam got still preserved even after so many invasions and foreign ruling and conversions, particularly in Northern India ... Moghal Empire ruled for 800 years ....worst of it was zazia, religious taxes for non Muslims...hence the forced conversions of downtrodden,and the onset of Muslim faith in India ... Britishers plundered all it's wealth and did conversions too .... It depends how history gets interpreted ... by a liberal leftist or it's counterpart...both ways history gets distorted .... So Indian society still is sensitive to issue of religious conversions and resists it strongly by forceful assertions, but society is openly tolerant to personal freewill choice of worship ...no one gets executed if hindu boy wants to be a Christian or follow other religious practices ...that is okk... However, some of Christian MISSIONARIES are dubious.,not transparent in rendering services to people,..they have vested interests ....mother Teresa was much criticized for money laundering and not Letting treatment of poor people when common people intervened to help her too ....it was much debated even as she was alive ...and later was declared a saint by the Vatican .... Khuswant Singh ,did a great job ,in interpreting Sikh History...in his two volume ,," The History of Sikhs ",covering a Sikh History timeline from 1469 to 1964...it's consise and well researched ,at least the author did not wear colored glasses and is much balanced, factual ,consize and much researched...and is much recognised by Sikh scholars world wide ... His famous quotes are....Sikhism is a branch of Sanatam ...and that Japuji Sahib ,the morning prayer, is based on Upnishads...

The only civilization who resisted to convert to Islam Was Bharat. The Sanatani of all different sects and Jatis fought to not fail.

Hey JP why not look on the school of traditions(Hinduism, Buddhism ,Jainism,..)it has brought into being ; scriptures this land has produced back then share mostly the same core philosophy, history of ideological evolution which is undoubtedly phenomenal, this is the single land in the whole world considered as a subcontinent coz the diversity u'll see in a continent is same for this country too.

Please - for an alternative, accurate view into Indian history, please read the works of Rajiv Malhotra, starting with “Being Different” and really researching the references in his books. This will clarify India from ancient times to the present day in ways that you will not see elsewhere, completely referenced by scholarly peer-reviewed works.

Breast tax was imposed by Brits. There was no system of blouses in India. Entire body including breasts were covered with a 4-6 meter cloth called Saaree, which Brits felt uncomfortable with. So they imposed tax. Breasts were not sexual before their arrival. Its was accepted with confidence. Brits sexualised Breasts. JP, why do you have this man on ur Podcast man?

The misleading video is pure propaganda. We truly admire the original Jordan Peterson, who genuinely seeks the real truth instead of spreading lies. The caste system originates from the Western side, while we used to have a varna system that did not include untouchables or hierarchies. Call j sai Deepak if you guts to play equally jorden you lossing my respect.

When God came to India? Look how Upnishad described God Before other religions were about to born.

Dr. Peterson, I am an Indian and I would very much appreciate it if you could invite someone like Dr. SUDHANSHU Trivedi to your program, and then we can see two real scholars discuss real India. Please avoid calling up these scamsters.

Which of Vishal Mangalawadi's books is Dr. Peterson referring to at 01:15 ? All of them? "The Book That Made Your World: How the Bible Created the Soul of Western Civilization"?

Dr Peterson Google: Vikram Sampath for actual Indian History.

Dear Dr. Jordan Peterson, it is my humble request to you to kindly invite true Hindu speakers to learn about the reality of Bharat (India) and even about all the invasions, civilisations and the cultures. I respect and have been following your channel for a few years now, however this is mildly disappointing that the source of information you picked seems to be far from the ones who truly know about our nation. I'm sure all the people from Bharat would love to see you speak and discuss about our country with a bunch of other people. As much as I appreciate your knowledge and even follow your lectures, I request you to kindly take into consideration further interviews with people who possess a wealth of knowledge such as archeologists, spiritual people and in the streams of culture and history. If I may provide feedback, this interview doesn't present an unbiased perspective of Bharat, and to title the video as "What you don't know about the Mughal Empire" doesn't seem apt when the facts are colored and only one side of the story has been told. I request you to kindly hear all sides of the story before presenting videos with such titles, espeically because as citizens of Bharat, we know that the Mughal Empire doesn't hold our history nor is barely a good yardstick to understanding our culture, religion or people. It would be a truly amazing series of podcasts on similar topics if you invited other people who truly knew their knowledge.

Dr. Jordan Peterson Sir...I am Hindu and an Indian....me and my whole family admire you so much becaz you genuinely a inspiring person...no mattr what, respect n admiration will always be there....but we request you to kindly explore more about India from Hindu's point of view...Did we wanted any invader to come in for any reason? can start with that question....I respect your wisdom so nothing more to say...But i surely wish you to visit India, explore Hindu side of story, Hindu literatire and philosophy and decide if we were wrong or invaders were right....

Excellent rendition. Thank you!

Its a misconception that muslims from arab came to India through invasion. Lots of arabs were doing trade with India way before islam even came to medina. India has the oldest mosque in Kerala made by arab merchant. And kerala hindu king have even met prophet muhamad when he asked these arabs when they started converted to islam. Who is your prophet and he went eith them to met prophet. Thats the reason therevis a hindu-arabic numerals. But people start with mughals and forget that arab traders were there already trading with us with spices.

But slavery is permissible in bible🤔🤔🤔, don't spread misinformation .

Dr. Peterson, the interpretation of the indian history you are getting from this person is very 'imaginative '! Please be vary of taking it as the recorded version.

I live in India my friends are Hindus. I didn't understood why some friend not helping poor. Well understood.

Dr Peterson...I have been and .I'm one of your admirer for some time now. I love your psychological predisposition in analyzing different social phenomenon and individuating some of the roots problem in our modern time. I also appreciate your tilt for Christian faith. However you should investigate more accurately regarding India's History and spiritual culture as it is VAST. This guest may know some aspect of it but he is not interested or capable to present the whole truth (perhaps because he doesn't know it). One great modern sadhu ( saint) and spiritual intellectual of India, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, used to say to those spiritual seeker ": go higher and higher in your spiritual search, and when you get to the source of all you will not be disappojnted as not seeker has ever been."

🇮🇳From India We appreciate your work Hero

What was the consequent of the Mughal empire Vishal: they built Taj mahal Bruh this guy is straight up has an agenda 😂😂😂

Excellent interview. Vishal has an encyclopedic knowledge of Indian history

JP has to learn more about India and it’s culture .

He is right that the Abrahamic religions found favor among the oppressed in India because they promised equal divine status to all individuals regardless of their birth. However, among Hindus, there were many reformers and saints who emerged from time to time, who were born to the so-called lower castes, who reformed Hindu thinking mightily. The Vedic 'religion', which might be considered the origin of Hinduism, contained ideas of caste-based superiority, etc. but the Hinduism of today is completely different from what it was then. I am not denying the oppression of the 'lower caste' people of India. Horrible things did happen to them. But Hindu thought cannot be restricted to terms like 'karma' and 'caste' without understanding the far wider and deeper philosophy in which they were embedded. It's like reducing a nation like America to 'slavery' and 'materialism' without understanding the thought that went behind creating that nation. For a significant part of its modern history, a large portion of the Indian subcontinent was ruled by Mughals, who were Muslims. But Islamic thought in India is also extremely diverse. Not all Muslims are cut out of the same rock. There is a whole spectrum of Islamic thought in India just as it is in the rest of the world. Also, just as Islam came to be practiced in India due to the political influence of Muslim rulers, Catholicism also came to be practiced in India due to the political influence of Catholics, mainly the Portuguese. I don't deny that Christianity offered the promise of equality to all its adherents, but one cannot ignore the political and economic motivation behind converting to Christianity under the British rule. In fact, Christianity and the English language are so tied together in India that many people believe that Jesus Christ was an Englishman. (I would not be surprised even if some Christians also believe this). Many who converted to Christianity changed their names and surnames to English names and started talking in English at home. It is surprising that they would do this if the sole intent of conversion was the spiritual or social upliftment of the people. Since Roman Catholicism holds Latin to be a divine language, the converts should have started speaking in Latin. But they don't. I believe in the equality of all religions and that they offer different perspectives on the universal truth or God. Certainly Christianity in India has had a major influence on the prevailing conservative Hindu and Islamic thought, and it certainly offers its believers the necessary spiritual communion with the Divine. Otherwise, it wouldn't have survived so long. But the thing is that so long as we are on the topic of India, its religious and philosophical underpinnings are far older than Christianity. Buddhism had a far longer prevalence in India than Islam. It was under Buddhist rulers like Ashoka that Buddha's ideas spread out to the whole of the subcontinent, then to the Far East, and also to Greece. Why is Buddhism being neglected here? And the Vedic religion was old when Buddha had started preaching his message. The roots of Hinduism go back many millennia and the core ideas still survive, and are being practiced by millions around the world now. So, it is worth taking the time on understanding this ancient country and its ancient roots. It was not merely a tyranny. The example of the Kerala women is shameful, no doubt about it. But that's like saying that the castration of choir-boys by the Catholic Church was prescribed by the Bible. Where in the Bible does it ask Christians to go and kill the Native Americans? Or conduct the Spanish Inquisition? Do we not have modern examples of priests abusing young children as well? Does that mean Christianity is flawed? Rather, it is the people who are flawed. Apologies for the long rant :D but I felt that the speaker was not fully justified in his statements and if the spirit of truth is what we are seeking through these conversations, we have to take in the full context.

Christ bought the whole field of saints and sinners alike. Even the the vilest sinner retains the value of worth of Christ's life. So then. Now. Now all, all men and women may freely choose to recognize God and accept the free redemption. Evil still tries to bury and corrupt these truths today. Stay free. Free your neighbor with truth.

It’s pretty well known that Abraham spent many years in India learning from the sadhus before returning to Israel to form his own family and civilization.

William Pettigrew was a British Christian missionary who went to India in 1890, eventually brought western education in Manipur and introducing Jesus Christ to the Tangkhul Naga tribe, inhabiting Ukhrul district and he became the main catalyst for the surge in current christian population in Manipur. Wikipedia Born: 5 January 1869, Edinburgh, United Kingdom Died: 19 January 1943, United Kingdom

It would be interesting to discuss how the Hindu civilisation survives hundreds of years of invasions

Great talk Jordan! A big fan of your work in psychology and an admirer of your literary work. I am pretty sure that you chose the respected guest based on their work which intrigued you. I would say that this particular guest’s perspective or I should say research in Indian history is the most unbiased version (though a little left leaning) but true. I myself study the history of Hinduism and have understand how unfair and disgraceful certain traditions, rituals and systems were for certain classes and castes. This is evident even today and that is a hard hitting reality which we can’t deny. If it was not for the overseas invasions and different overseas influences, India would have never unified into a modern geographical entity we see today. Most comments I read here come from an extreme right leaning perspective inspired by the propaganda being spread and taught by the mainstream media in the forms of news and podcasts which are backed by the current government which evidently has a radical Hindu ideology. Most of these folks lack critical thinking and a proper understanding of History and humanity psychology and there perspective is based on a Hindu imperialist narrative which says that Hinduism sits at the top of every other religion and that ancient Indians were intellectually and physically above every one else which is sad.

00:05 Free societies are desirable and predicated on the rule of law 02:30 India was fragmented and ruled by the Muslim empire. 05:20 Horse sacrifice ritual weakened India and allowed Muslim, French, and British rulers. 08:17 India's history is marked by a long period of slavery and exploitative rulers. 10:49 The caste system weakened India's defense and dignity 13:24 Inequality is not a self-evident truth. 15:55 The translation of the Bible into vernacular languages was a dangerous and resisted act. 18:21 The British introduced the Bible to India through the missionary movement 20:38 The book discusses the obligation of Christians to disciple all nations. 22:58 Each individual has a sacred nature Crafted by Merlin AI.00:05 Free societies are desirable and predicated on the rule of law 02:30 India was fragmented and ruled by the Muslim empire. 05:20 Horse sacrifice ritual weakened India and allowed Muslim, French, and British rulers. 08:17 India's history is marked by a long period of slavery and exploitative rulers. 10:49 The caste system weakened India's defense and dignity 13:24 Inequality is not a self-evident truth. 15:55 The translation of the Bible into vernacular languages was a dangerous and resisted act. 18:21 The British introduced the Bible to India through the missionary movement 20:38 The book discusses the obligation of Christians to disciple all nations. 22:58 Each individual has a sacred nature Crafted by Merlin AI.00:05 Free societies are desirable and predicated on the rule of law 02:30 India was fragmented and ruled by the Muslim empire. 05:20 Horse sacrifice ritual weakened India and allowed Muslim, French, and British rulers. 08:17 India's history is marked by a long period of slavery and exploitative rulers. 10:49 The caste system weakened India's defense and dignity 13:24 Inequality is not a self-evident truth. 15:55 The translation of the Bible into vernacular languages was a dangerous and resisted act. 18:21 The British introduced the Bible to India through the missionary movement 20:38 The book discusses the obligation of Christians to disciple all nations. 22:58 Each individual has a sacred nature Crafted by Merlin AI.00:05 Free societies are desirable and predicated on the rule of law 02:30 India was fragmented and ruled by the Muslim empire. 05:20 Horse sacrifice ritual weakened India and allowed Muslim, French, and British rulers. 08:17 India's history is marked by a long period of slavery and exploitative rulers. 10:49 The caste system weakened India's defense and dignity 13:24 Inequality is not a self-evident truth. 15:55 The translation of the Bible into vernacular languages was a dangerous and resisted act. 18:21 The British introduced the Bible to India through the missionary movement 20:38 The book discusses the obligation of Christians to disciple all nations. 22:58 Each individual has a sacred nature Crafted by Merlin AI.

I find that this discussion doesn’t really touch much related to the Mughal empire other than beating the drum for Christian evangelicals. . The view offered by the panelist is extremely narrow and plain more in tune with the narrative he wants to set with a motivated agenda for this hugely vast and diverse nation and doesn’t do justice to it’s rich and complex culture, and layered history. . This is exactly what the British wanted Indians to perceive themselves as to create a disconnect from the richness of their own culture!

Talking about the "Rule of Law" truth be told, that USED to be my favorite law. Which states NO ONE IS ABOVE the law. To me it was the pentacle of law the BEST law. But the government and the law enforcement officials abolish that law and walk up and down that law do to their power and influence that I just realized there is no such things as laws depending on who you are. So in other words I want to say F all laws!

Thank you for your clear and consice postings

@DrJordanBPetersonClips - Sir, this man from north has no understanding of customs in southern India. Back in the days both men and women only wore a single cloth on their waist. If you see the statues in southern temples, they all are bare breasted. Even the statues of goddesses were bare breasted. Breasts were a natural thing and were not an organ to cover. In south removing the towel on the shoulder was a way of showing respect to the other party. There was no sexual or slavery angle to it. To westerners and north Indians, this seems barbaric. Please see The Dutch representative William Van Nieuhoff describes the Rani (Queen Umayamma who ruled Travancore ruled from 1677 - 1718) as: “ ... I was introduced into her majesty's presence. She had a guard of above 700 Nair soldiers about her, all clad after the Malabar fashion; the Queens attire being no more than a piece of callicoe wrapt around her middle, the upper part of her body appearing for the most part naked, with a piece of callicoe hanging carelessly round her shoulders. Her ears, which were very long, her neck and arms were adorned with precious stones, gold rings and bracelets and her head covered with a piece of white callicoe. She was past her middle age, of a brown complexion, with black hair tied in a knot behind, but of majestick mein, she being a princess who shew'd a great deal of good conduct in the management of her affairs

What's the name of the book he wrote?

The british empire abandoned slavery because it COULD abandon slavery. It had all the wealth to realize that it did not need slavery anymore and that overturning slaves could improve its moral image among other rulers/colonies - thats a hypothesis i heard somewhere…what do you think?

St. Thomas landed in the Indian state of Kerala around 60AD. Travancore is in Kerala.

Hello Peter, Learn things about Hindustan, if you really want to, from a historian who can give you the right message about Hindustan, good things, bad things, right and wrong, past and present. Don’t go making an opinion about anything just by listening to someone who is preoccupied or biased or who can tell you about only the bad things and that too in a bad taste. There are always two sides of a coin. Thanks 🙏

People need to remember the good things in history.

12:28 - why did you (Jordan) cut him off here??? What a pitty! One of the most interesting points in the interview...

Wow.....reminds me of the Brits talking to the Americans about how apartheid wasn't so bad to have these 2 Christian guys discuss how they saved the last non-evangelised ancient religion of size land - India. Historically inaccurate as well - the Mughal empire was fractured and didn't control much of India by the time the British came the Marathas and Rajputs were growing rapidly to the decline of the Mughals.

It's interesting to see how many divided people keep saying, "for real history, please check with xyz......" There's not even a history people can rely on.

Like most social phenomena oppressive structures also I believe helps or rather forces spread of the structure arround the world.

Here is the thing, caste system was based on karma (work) (deed) (career) and not birth. Yes it got changed and that's because sons of a let's say soldier also became interested in War and stuff and became soldier and so on happened with all caste. Here are some more facts, we were having so much wealth that India's share of world economy accounted for 23% of wealth of the world economy when British arrived at the Indian shores, by the time Britishers left It was Below 4%. Why? Because India was governed for benefit of Britain, in Britain's rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India. In fact, Britain’s Industrial revolution was actually premised upon the deindustrialization of India. The handloom weavers for example, famed around the world, whose products were exported around the world. Britain came right in, there were actually these weavers making fine muslin, lightest woven it was said. Britain came right in and smashed their thumbs, broker their looms, imposed tariffs and duties on their cloth and products and started of course taking raw materials from India and shipping back manufactured cloth, flooding the world markets with what became the products of dark and satanic milks of Victorian. India was Britain’s biggest cash cow. The wealthy Britain Victorian families that made money out of the slave economy, one fifth of the elites of the wealthy class in Britain in 19th century owed their money to transporting 3 million Africans across the waters. In fact in 1833 when slavery was abolished, what happened was that a compensation of 20 million pounds were paid not as reparations to those who had lose their lives or who had suffered or being oppressed by slavery, but to those who had lost their property. Staying with India, between 15 and 29 million Indians died of Starvation in British induced famines. Most famous example of course, was great Bengal famine during the second world war when four million people died because Winston Churchill deliberately as a matter of written policy proceeded divert essential supplies from civilians in Bengal to sturdy tummies and Europeans as reserves stockpile. He said, anyway starvation of underfoot, underfed Bengalis mattered much less than that of sturdy Greek (This is Churchill’s actual quote). Violence and racism were the reality of colonial experience. We were denied democracy, so we had to snatch it, seize it from you. Some Idiots talk about, “ Oh they built railways”. They built railways because they want to move their troops and the goods out of the country. What were the local administrators called? The Collectors. They were just tax collectors. In many provinces, the taxes on the agricultural produce were 100%. 100% tax on everything you grow. When the British left this country, average life expectancy in India was 28 years and illiteracy was 93%. We faced very brutal invasions. They really had discussion and full try to burn out the Hindu way of life. Still, it didn’t die. What kept our culture alive through thousand years of brutal invasion. People who invaded was for economic interest or spreading their religion. Thing is our culture or civilization is so complex or profound, they couldn’t figure it out. They thought we have a religion, where is the religious head, they killed hundreds of pandits (scholars or priest) but it still didn’t die because there was never a leadership for this. It was never an organized approach. It’s every individual seeking their own thing and everybody accepting that. Father is worshipping the tree, sister is worshipping the rock, I am okay with that. I am not a tree or rock worshipper, but I got no problem. I am sky worshipper. Somebody don’t worship anything; we are okay with him also. So, they never figured this because they always believed that you must belong to some entity. Here we didn’t belong to any entity. So, there was no leadership. As many people you can kill, still it’s on, in human’s hearts what is, you can’t kill. It didn’t need leadership. It didn’t need a book, it didn’t need an ideology, it didn’t need a god (that’s the most important thing). BHARAT IS AN ORGANIZED CHAOS. WE AND OUR CULTURE ARE TOO CHAOTICALLY ORGANIZED TO BE UNDERSTOOD AND DESTROYED. Reference: Videos of Sadhguru and Shashi Tharoor

Bro needs to come down here and meet yogis for the real history knowledge.

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. I suggest other Indian historians be interviewed to get a more accurate view of Indian history.

Please Dr. J Peterson, if you wanna know about India as a civilisation, please call Dr. Vikram Sampath or Rajeev Malhotra. These are the people whom you should look out for. We Hindus have always been cornered this way for years when it came to give our perspectives. We dont have much of our voice, and when you finally see a man from our skin he is either a leftist or woke. The things they say are either way too twisted or seen from a very wrong perspective. So i pray to god that you see my comment and think over it. Thank you JP.

This is really eye-opening. So powerful!!!🔥 Thanks for an interesting angle to India history Jordan and Vishal. Love from India....

Jordan is so eager to assert that the British with Bible in their hands brought enlightenment to India 😂

There was Maurya Empire before Mughal Empire who dominated the world in many sectors.

Hot damn, I didn't know that that was how it was in Catholicism, I thought that Christianity had already democratized the sovereignty to the individual but only of a king's and not a priesthood. Now I understand the Protestant culture of enforcing almost priestly behaviors where in Catholicism following the teachings strictly was exclusive for priests and not for the common Laity

I love how everything worked out. First Printing press with gutenberg Then back to the Bible with Erasmus when Bibles were available. Then reformation to become more independent to use those Bibles and interpret them. Then new translation were made in all european languages. The missionnaires to all the nations when colonisation began to spread the word. Christians nations were blessed and became extremely powerful. Now we are like ancient Israël. For from God an strong ennemies all around.

Britain also gained from the enslavement of Ireland, and a scion of the pro-British landlords, Edward Gibbon, wrote his great work "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" in the late 18th century, arguing that Christianity was inimical to a well-ordered Empire. This fits in with Mr. Mangalwadi's point about the banning of Christian missionaries from India by the British authorities. Of course, one of the first great multinational corporations, the British East Indies Co, in parallel with the Dutch East Indies Co, were opposed to human freedom.

Hinduism, in its initial raw form was some of the greatest heights scaled by humanity in terms of philosophy, and remnants of those days still exist in the form of texts like Ashtavakra Gita. Unfortunately with time, it got corrupted with dirty minds polluting it from within and outside while claiming to be defendants of a religion that never was (it was supposed to be a way of life!). India is a very interesting case study wherein you get to see humanity in its extremities throughout the spectrum of possibilities.

Taç Mahal'in öznesi, Ercüment Banu Begüm'dür. Uzun cümleler kurmaya gerek yoktur bazen, tarihi bir şaheseri anlatmak için. Sadece özneyi bilmek yeterlidir.

You have the most intriguing videos would never think off. Thank you for my education and broader view of the world.

Brilliant discussion with so many gold nuggets 12:52 summed up perfectly how 'karma philosophy' was misused to justify poor people deserved to stay downtrodden 14:40 divine truths are self evident in a culture saturated by divine truth 15:40 people know very well that if the actual words were widely distributed, there would be a revolution bottom up

I disagree with this analysis of Muslims as foreign to India and exploitative to natives. This historical dishonesty is only made possible due to the disaster that was partition. Muslims started the idea of langar via the mosque and also equality of people without caste. There are Sufi shrines all through India who drew women and slave converts. Tipu sultan was born of slave lineage and was a Muslim king such was Indian Muslim social mobility.

This is not a broad view of how India was in history ,the Muslims didn’t come here with a good intentions to settle. A person like Jordan Peterson needs better details on how history of India really was like Some people JP should consider inviting over to panel J SAI DEEPAK ANAND RANGANATHAN

I find this discussion extremely ill informed ..... Caste system was basically class system of modern world... For thousand of years, people born in one caste could change its caste as per one's capability.... This system served India well for atleast 9000 years well as India remained the most prosperous part of the world throughout its history.... Around 6th century, it got degenerated & some part of India witnessed extreme birth based casteism.... But fight against birth based casteism was done by hindus by using the orignal scripture of Hinduism.... Today,two consecutive president of India belonged to so called "untouchable"... Prime Minister of India belongs to so called " Backward caste"..... Also when British came to India, India's share of world GDP was 23℅, when they left, it was below 2℅ , bec they looted India so much that even word "loot" Was taken fom hindi language...

Invite j Sai Deepak to know more about India

Please read book, "Challenging Destiny" Jordan. Tells if time under Moghuls.

Discussion on Hinduism as a religion can't be done without Vedanta, as it is the essence of the Vedas. To understand it, please refer to the works of Swami Vivekananda. In his book "Karma Yoga," he beautifully describes the laws of karma. Your understanding is not correct. But I strongly believe that you can understand Hinduism even if it is very complex. Also, rather than looking at the literal meanings of the scriptures, it is always better to listen to the interpretation of it by Saints and Sages who were realized beings. Normal people are not suited to understand the scriptures. It is very hard to tell how New York looks just by looking at a map if you have never visited New York. Similarly, it is very difficult to understand scriptures without realization or assistance from your guru, who is supposed to be a realized being. In Hinduism, the concept of a guru is very important, as the guru is a realized being and handholds you in your spiritual journey.

Thanks for an interesting angle to India history. To a large extent, it seems to agree with a political science textbook, Francis Fukuyama, "The Origins of Political Order: From Prehuman Times to the French Revolution,"Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2011. BTW, Francis Fukuyama is agnostic.

Man, Jordan is having the awesome guest line up!! Love Vishal!!

Peterson, you are an intelligent man. Please dont let this man to fool you. Please invite Sanjay Dixit from Jaipur dialogue to get better understanding of this issue. 1. British took over India from Marathas, and not Mughals. 2. No evidence at all that Jai Chand invited Gori. 3. Not every Hindu temples had wealth, they were destryoed because they were kafir's place of worship 4. No nevidence that lower cast women have to suffrr as. he is saying 5. He explained the horse tradition, but not explain how it destroyed India. 6. Muslims start invading India in mid 7th century but they did not succeed untill end of 12th century. 7. Indians were never slaves of anypne and kept fighting to over through foreign invadors and finally succeeded to first remove Mughals and then British. 8. Recent estimates by economist show that British looted £45 trillions from India.

Dear Dr Peterson... .kindly go through the Upnishads... the gist of vedas ....it deals with more spritualusm, the soul , the purpose of life ...and is not ritualistic like vedas ... There are 108 different Upanishads ...out of which 12 or 13 are the principal ones .... Generally principals are widely read ... That gives answers to what is life ,death ,purpose of life ...what is enlightenment,..etc ... Every seeker finally from Bhagwat Gita ends up with Upnishads ...they are the end of reading to a seeker , but for a scholar a ever pondering idea and concepts ... It is relatable to subtle deep biblical interpretations ....especially to Gospel of Thomas ...the gnostic gospels ...

#FreeNorthEast #freeSadhinAxom. My mootherland Axom was never under Mughal.

Khyber Pass wasn't closed because it was an important part of the silk route. Closing it meant complete shut down of trade for many northern Kingdoms, not just Delhi. Overall, very selective history of India has been portrayed in this video. No offence to the gentleman.

Reformation age protestants: We want to read the bible. Counter reformation Catholics: How dare you!.

Please also discuss about sikh empire 😊

so interesting that he cites ashwini based sacrifices as the genesis of india's enslavement to foreign powers. ashwini is an aspect of the hindu zodiac's equivalent of aries, making it roughly a face of a war god, or a lesser malefic deity. definitely not a thing you should put in charge of domestic policy. it's an incredibly powerful force, like fire, but tends to be quite divisive. seems like that king was setting the stage for his own destruction. i abohr any western fallacious appeals to providence or historicism, whether catholic or protestant. one whiff of the 30 years war (known in america as the protestant reformation) should be enough to dissillusion anyone of the notion that catholicism was a religion of peace during the enlightenment. conversely, protestantism is directly responsible for the woke mind virus as far as i can tell. just because something was, does not mean it must be so, or that it is in its perfected form.