Whats better BMW GS or GSA? 

I have a 2017 GSA and absolutely love it! Although, my transmission must have been transplanted from a John Deer tractor!

you forgot that the crashbars and fog lamps comes as standard on the GSA

I'm fortunate enough to own one of each, both 2016 LC's. The GSA is in regional north Queensland (suited for dirt road touring and plenty of sealed road riding) and the GS is in Sydney for more sealed road touring. Living in Australia fuel range is important. With fuel stops The GSA (around 580km's) refuelling is more like a Car whereas the GS (around 380km's) is more typical of a bike. Apart from that I still can't find a real favourite between the both. I agree, the GSA gearbox and engine is marginally smoother than the GS, but that aside I love both of them. The aluminium luggage on the GSA is better for long range touring whereas the GS Vario luggage is more like a 'suitcase' design and easier to remove if doing it daily. That said, I also have the soft bags for the GSA with all the connecting straps that worry really well. If you need extra luggage fitted for longer touring the GSA panniers with soft bags leave the GS Vario's behind. Like I said, I'm very fortunate to have one of either, so I'm lucky I don't need to make a choice. If I had to then I would have to put the GSA marginally ahead of the GS...oh, I also have spoked wheels on the GS as well......P.S. I do like the bulky look of the GSA.

GSA all day every day. Life is short. Just buy the bike.

I agree with you that the GS looks better, I love the GS wheels vs GSA spoke wheels. New GS (2017 & 2018) models are much smoother, I test rode the GS two days ago, decisions, decision. Great review 👍

1150 GS gearbox is smooth , no idea why people moan about the GS gearbox

Stop fighting it TMF, get down to your local BMW dealer and place your order! I love the bulky look of the GSA, like you suggested I'd get the Vario panniers fitted as they are far better suited to my needs.

I would choose the GSA if only for the larger fuel tank. If money was no object.

I like your video but i don't see how you can compare the 2 bikes when there is a 3 year model gap. BMW have made changes (improvements?) to the engine & gearbox during this time. I have ridden two BMW's with the 'GS' engine and two GSA engined bikes (all were new) and the 'GS' were much smoother & slick, whereas the GSA engines were not only different to each other, but were crude compared to the "GS" engines imo.

I bought my 2016 R1200 GS LC GSA mainly for the gas tank. At a true 100 kph I can easily get 600 km to the tank. I hate stopping for gas, the time really cuts into the big distance days. Its also why I have a R1150 GSA, R100 GS and R80 G/S PD.

Great video. In the US the differences between the two are, spoked wheels, pannier racks, suspension height, different flywheel, front tip over bars, sump guard, bigger tank, led fog lights, enduro pro riding mode, and. navigator 5 cradle standard. At least those were the differences between them in 2016 when I bought my adventure.

Very much a mucking around Missenden review, the adventure is for what it says, that scaffolding is for holding big tins full of gear most of which you won’t need, to hoof off on an adventure, big tank for limited fuel stops. The regular GS for what it is, a rufty tufty type to go to the shops on or perhaps the long weekend urban warrior from hotel to hotel. Just trundling around on A roads is not a good comparison. Get them both off road, put the GSA in Enduro mode both fully loaded and see how the GS does. Horses for courses, pop to the shops, the odd commute and Sunday trundle GS or up to your Doo dahs in muck and crud GSA. And that’s when you discover the GSA is tooo heavy.

TMF I have to go for the GSA. I think it looks much more substantial, plus with range, smother engine and gears I'd go GSA. As far as screens go, I don't think many OEM screens get it right. So nothing out the ordinary to swap out. However thats the great thing about bikes and models, there's something for everyone. Moral of the story....try and get what fits your needs. Great vid as always.

nothing about suspension... the most important difference 👎

The gearbox is improved on all 2017 models, both GS and GSA, it is now much less "agricultural".

Living in South Africa and being just 169 cm tall the GSA is simply too tall so I had to opt for the standard, beefed up by the the extra crash bars, spot lights, bought in 2007. Traveled close to 240 000 km all over southern Africa, obviously about 1/3 at least off tarred roads and absolutely happy. Only challenge is sandy patches under full load, that's why in Namibia GS stands for 'gien sand', meaning 'no sand'.

Had my GSA for 18 months now and absolutely love it. Being 6'3" and 18 Stone the bike is just right. Did a trip down to the Pyrenees last August and the large tank came into it's own against Tiger Explorers, whilst they were getting around the 180 mile mark and worrying I was happily carrying on without a care.

Nice video, as I am a P.O.R.G (Person Of Restricted Growth) as well, one thing I would like to know is when you go on your tours (like you did in my area, Cornwall) what do you take with you? Do you always carry tyre repair kits and tools everywhere etc. Maybe you can do a video on that? Happy New Year and keep the videos coming I enjoy watching them all :-) Cheers

Having just test driven both 1250 models, they are both superb. On the road, mechanically and performance wise I couldn't tell the difference. The new engine is noticeably better than 2017 models. The GSA has a taller screen which may matter to the taller person.The extra 20cm of suspension on GSA is more challenging for the shorter person or older person whose hips may be slightly knackered. I think I am going to choose the GS, it feels lighter, more agile and for my riding (roads)is a better fit. The GSA is superb but is over specced for my activities. In this last year I have ridden my 8 year old RT in Scandinavia and Morocco and I really like the RT. If I were touring 2 up the 1250 RT would be my choice but it has a lot of plastic to look after and worry about, a few scratches on a GS not problem.

Also the gsa comes out as standard with spoked wheels (and maybe extra lights) which I prefer and suspect if I bought would make the models similar cost.

Hey mate I'm 1.74 meters tall, do you think I can handle the GSA? Cheers Eduardo

If I were to go inter continental where lockable packs is important, I'd choose the GSA

The engine and bodywork protection that comes standard on the GSA is also worth several hundred dollars which helps swallow the extra cost. Personally I love the looks of the GSA VS GS. Like a Jeep vs a hummer.

Again a great video. I own a GSA now and owned the GS LC before, when I bought the GS the LC Adventure was not available. I drove non stop from Andorra back to Amsterdam last year and the GS is a great bike for long trips and mountain riding. For long trips I needed to tank every 300 km, which I found annoying but not really a problem. The GSA is more comfortable, engine and gear indeed smoother and handles almost as good as the GS, considering such a big bike (I don't do offroad although I admire people who can do that). At the the end, both are great bikes and ultimately, choice is based on the looks, which is personal and I find the GSA one of the best looking bikes. The RT (ahum) nice but a bitt dull looking, I wait another 15 years till I'm 60...maybe you should test the 1200R too, probably the best handling flattwin. Before the GS, I had the airccooled R. Keep the videos coming!

Thank you for the great review. My local BMW dealer said that in 2017 both the GS and GSA had the same (better) engine.

I upgraded from the GS LC to the GSA LC about 6 months ago and found the transition to be pretty seamless. You get used to the more bulky proportions quite quickly. I was even surprised i could pick up the GSA without too much difficulty after dropping it in the car park once. The higher seat height is also no issue if you can flat foot on the GSA. I also fee the GSA has stronger engine braking than the GS, not sure if that is due to the bigger flywheel. Apart from that, quite an uneventful transition. I prefer the GSA due to the larger presence , which makes it safer on the road.

Yet another informative video, thanks for posting. I'm sure many out there are debating whether they should go with GS or GSA, plus your review of the RT......both videos very interesting and helpful.....hard to go wrong with any of the three.

Absolutely love your reviews - some of the most enjoyable and informative on the net from a real world POV :-) As a returning motorcyclist, I found the RT, and GS/GSA reviews especially helpful. I don't think there is really a 'best' pick between them, so much as what best suits you. If you never intended to go off road, the RT is arguably the best at straight touring. For all round sports, commuting and touring, and the ability to go down that dirt or gravel track to a campsite, the GS. If you really want to tour large distances, and manage unexpected unmade roads, then the GSA would come into it's own I think with the extra fuel capacity, better wind/rain protection and the stronger/more versatile luggage options over the GS. I attended the launch of the GSA LC here in Australia, and am very happy to hear that at 5.8" you had no issues with managing it. I'm 5' 9 ½" and on the standard GS with standard seat on low position, I could only just touch the ground with my toes. I dared not try the GSA with the standard seat, for fear I would be unable to touch the floor with my feet - it seemed an enormous machine in the shop! So given the practicalities of very large distances in Australia and the GSA seeming an ideal choice, it's most reassuring to read that those of us under 6" can actually mange them. Please keep up the good work. :-) Very much looking forwards to your review of a K1600GT - arguably the best touring Bike in BMW's portfolio when really long distances at high speeds and fully loaded or two up come into it, coupled with the refinement of that inline six. It might give away a little nimbleness to the RT in the twists, but makes up for it everywhere else. Interestingly I know of several multiple bike BMW owners, and the K1600GT & R1200 GSA seems to be a favourite combination. Take care and ride safe as always... Kind regards..:-)

Great review, really enjoy your channel. You mention a different (heavier) flywheel in the GSA. Is that still the case with the 2018's? I've been trying to find reference to that to no avail. Cheers!

Another great TMF review. Thanks very much for all your great work. GSA for me, no question, but I am a tourer as well as a commuter so the tank-capacity alone is a deal-breaker for me against ALL competitors.

I also love the extra engine protection (Crash bars with the installed driving light) if one was to upgrade all the extra protection of the "Adventure" it would run about the same. I got into a wreck with a car last week and I know that the bars saved the engine(not to mention my leg probably would have taken a beating also) Thanks for your unbiased video!

You did not mention about rake angle of the GSA is different to the standard GS, making it more agile. I am riding the standard GSA 2016, those extras alone make up the price difference.

Clunky, agricultural gearbox is good for us germans, because we constantly wear military boots anyway!!!! 🇩🇪🇬🇧🤣🤣🤣🤣

Quid, pence, shillings, and pounds. What of it? Lord knows you can't take it with you. Get a GSA and don't look back.

TMF, well I think a bang on review mate. I too loved the GS and since owning the GSA I probably wouldn't go back. The smoothness of the engine and drive train is very noticeable particularly on long journeys. Earlier this year I took the GSA down to Gibraltar and back with little effort and extreme comfort. I love this machine it's a masterpiece. Lastly have a wonderful Christmas and thank you for all the fantastic videos this year, please keep them coming....not like me lol. Beans

Thanks for the time and effort you put into your videos. Much appreciated. I was wondering if you had plans to try out the Ducati Multistrade Enduro for comparison. I would be interested in your opinion.

GSA is beter all around then GS period !

Thanks for the review. I ordered a GSA.

Hello, TheMissendenFlyer, I am looking into both these bikes, how are they on long distance rides. Most of my friends do a 1200 mile ride over a few days throughout the year and were wondering if these bikes are comfortable enough to ride those distances.

The price and weight difference between the GS and GSA are almost moot if you plan to add aux lights, engine protection bars, hand guards and rear luggage racks. Once you add those accessories your GS will cost more than a GSA and the only difference in weight will be the extra 2 gallons of fuel. Also, you failed to mention 20cm's/1" more travel front and rear and the heavier springs and taller seat height of the GSA.

i thought there was a difference in the wheels 😂😂😂. Thanks man

Standard looks a bit understated / executive - I think if I am going to do it I'd go full fat bulbous.

Nice review TMF... i would add that although the 'scaffolding' may not be to everyones taste and, as you say, it can be removed, it does serve as a bit of a saviour if you do happen to drop it for some reason.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it

So now that you know the new GS models have the same flywheel and gearbox would you change your mind and stay with the new GS over the GSA?

I have tried a two year old gs, liked it, but for me I just love the sound and torque of that three cylinder engine on that triumph, it's down to price and the fact I have a friendly triumph dealer close by.

A couple of observations: The GSA comes with fog lights and spoked wheels fitted as standard both of which are a cost option on the GS. The seats are interchangeable with the GS but are not the same. The rider's seat is very different however I noticed you had a low seat fitted on the test bike. The flywheel is heavier and not bigger. The heavier flywheel was fitted to the 2014 model year GS onward. All in all, another excellent Vlog !

Sorry to add a thumbs down but unfortunately not up to your normal high standard! You have compared a 2013 GS with a 2017 GSA. The correct comparison would have been between the 2017 GSA and GS. Along with the 2017 RT they have a revised gearbox and other tweeks. Having ridden the 2017 GSA and RT they are without doubt smoother than my 2014 GS, but given the stick BMW have received for these issues it's not surprising they have (quietly) made improvements. I saw the over-written corrections but to be fair I suggest a re-scrub on this one. Just an additional point; after quite a short time the engines and flywheels of the two LC bikes became identical. You may have the light-weight flywheel.

Follow my logics and correct if wrong TMF... - Brand new GS weighs 244kg fully wet, GSA 263kg (BMW gives wet weight only on Irish website). - GSA comes with 30l tank and GS 20l. - 1l of road petrol weighs 0,74kg. - Simple maths says that fuel weigh accordingly 14,8kg GS and 22,2kg GSA. - This let us calculate dry weight for both bikes which is following 229,2kg GS and 240,8kg GSA. - This gives us only 11,6kg of a difference! Surely it's marginal when comes to handling and hand manouvering the bike is it? Did this calculation after talking to happy GSA owner who said that he only fully fills his bike on long highway runs or long hard surface journeys, while keep fuel somewhat lower normally everyday. Having this weight factor no more so scary more folks might go for GSA taking better crash and weather protection... Wonder what you think TMF and other guys to, open for constructive discussion. Test road GS, stayed away from GSA thinking 'she is heavy old cow' but now I'm booking GSA test ride also ;)

I had to make this very decision last weekend. 2014 GS or 2017 GSA. Coming off a R9T the first thing I noticed is that both bikes were more mechanical-sounding. Certainly from the heads area. And the gearbox in my 9T seemed smoother. But between the two bikes, with 15k and 25k on them respectively, the GSA was a clear winner. Thanks for the review. Worth adding that the GSA comes with pretty comprehensive crash bars too. Cheers.

The GS 1200 is an excellent running bike for 3 years, then the warranty expires and the GS begins to fall apart, at this point the GS becomes very very expensive to own!

Although the GSA is bigger i prefer to ride it over the GSand think both bikes ride themselves. Both bikes deserve the acolades they get.

You may have a video about this somewhere, but in 2019, nearly 2020, what's your opinion of the GSA v the 1250 GS HP's that you have ridden at Torro Adventure? I live down in Spain and for a weekend bike for day rides I am leaning towards the standard GS HP....

Nobody thinks of recording the voice separate? People please, it is better for the viewer, the sound of your voice is muffled, get it?

Just bought it! :-) ;-) waiting for the delivery. Thanks for the videos!

I love my 2019 GSA. Thanks for sharing .

A great review and some mysteries solved about the differences in these two iconic machines. Some recommendations from one whom has made a few mistakes in the early days of owning heavy weight Adventure/Tourers; start off with a low fuel load (it really helps to get you used to pulling up, when you have the most risk of a drop) and get some BarkBusters fitted. The brush guards on most new bikes are good cosmetically but they won't take the weight of a parking drop or any crash. BarkBusters are inexpensive and will save you a lot in replaced mirrors, brush guards, blinkers etc.) Regards, David

Hi Andy, am thinking of getting a 2018 R1200 GS, rather than the GSA. If when you did this review, the GS had the updated, smoother engine and gearbox, would that swing it back in favour of the standard GS? I like the idea of the lighter bike and vario panniers that can be fitted to the GS without needing the scaffolding on the GSA. Also prefer the narrower vario panniers, over the giant alu boxes for the GSA.

I own S1000RR. Sometimes I notice that I don't wanna go that fast. not sure if gs1200 or r9t Racer as second bike hmmm. I cruise my RR sometimes and it feels weird

I love the old boxers, oddly, a favourite was the 60/6 as the R100T was like a tractor, but still, simple, totally reliable

Sir one query please answer do u have done any valve check like ducati or does it not any require valve check in life forever??

Hi TMF, what are your opinions about the older, oil-cooled GSA models ('05-'13)? Because I'm tempted on a good deal in town right now ('11 GSA Triple Black, 24K miles, one owner). Although the lack of cruise control, dry clutch, maintenance costs, & oil seepage problems kinda scares me a bit. But the dealer offers a lifetime warranty on this bike though. Or should I consider a high-mile (75K miles), one-owner (private sale, my ex-moto instructor), 2015 Super Adventure-T? Thanks again TMF!

Good honest review as always, seasons greetings from Cornwall

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R is better than the GS and GSA...

Even on the looks I would purchase the GS!! The Adventure made me going to look into motorcycles years ago.. Just keep on saving money for my first bike!

The gearboxes are very much a hit or miss affair.. I rode a GS Rallye and the gearbox was very notchy and sticky on that one. I don't find that acceptable for a bike in the £18000 price bracket!

Burning question 2013 fjr 1300 or gs or gsa?

I just purchased the 2017 GS Adventure. What amazes me is how easy it is to put on miles. A friend said to me it "eats miles". The comfort and handling make distances seem much closer. I have 3000 miles on mine. Loving it.

In Britain a GS smashes it, in more remote parts of the world a GSA is very handy. I lived in the U.K. before buying a bike and riding it back home to Australia. (That was a Tenere 600ze) since then I've had 5 GS bikes and done a few laps of Oz (20 000k trips). In a country where it can be 600ks between servos (petrol stations) 30 litres is just enough... and then there is all the other good stuff to help you deal better with river crossings and thousands of k's of corrugations. If I lived back in the U.K., hell yeah, a GS, but out here and other adventurous parts of the world... a GSA kills it

Great video thank you. 2 questions of I may. 1) do both models have cruise control. 2) how would the gear box compare to clunkyness against my K1600. I hate the K series gear box! Thank you.

The problem I have with the GSA is the seat height. I wonder why they had to modify it if this is not an off-road bike.

Rode both ('23 850's) last week, the gs is an impressive machine. That being said, I couldn't find anything that the gs did better than the adventure. If weight from the added fuel is an issue, ride on 1/2 a tank...

I'm buying the 2013 GS with spoke wh'eels today on 40.000 kms instead of air cooled 2012 GSA triple black... I hope I will be happy. I am planning offroad routes this year mostly. Morocco and Dakar over Europe.. May be lighter bike will be suitable. Let's liev and see

Nice comparo. It would be good to compare the GS vs. GSA in the same model year. I recently sold my 2012 air/oil cooled GS and upgraded to a used 2016 GSA. The bikes are more similar than different than any others I could compare to. The engine and transmission are the biggest differences. The engine is more powerful, especially roll-on acceleration in any gear. I agree that the new transmission is a significant improvement as well. One comment about the larger fuel tank on the GSA. I don't have to fill it, but why wouldn't I? But, if I didn't like the extra weight of the fully laden tank, I could always stop at 4.5 gals, and make it equal to the GS. Also, I wanted to mention that the GSA comes standard with the extra crash protection, increased suspension travel front and rear, and a 720 watt alternator, vs. the 510 watt on the standard. I don't know this for sure, but I thought that the GSA had large fork stanchions as well. Lastly, I'm 5'9" and 150 lbs (175 cm and 68 kg). I fit both bikes well, running the standard seats, with standard suspension. The GSA feels to be about 1" taller, but the BMW website indicates 40 mm taller on the GSA at the seat.

You have to remember that although there's £1100 price difference the GSA TE also comes with Dick Lights (£340) and crash bars (say £200 -250) as standard. So the price difference isn't that great. I have a Triple Black waiting at the dealers for the start of next year.

What's better? is the perennial question that bounces hither and yon around the cavernous corridors of the cosmos. Do I date a short lass with big hooters, or a tall bird with no topography? Coke or Pepsi? Whiskey or bourbon? Single malt or blended? Stout ale or lager? Work or fish? I say the reason we ride is to avoid life's complications. It doesn't really matter if you bugger up your decision, as long as you just bloody make one.

Great video. Got some slack on the 2103 v 2017 comparison but might I just say I've learnt more about the GS here than any other source. There is obviously hours of editing goes into these 10 to 20 minute clips. I bought my 2013 GS1200 last week (with 9500 miles) and no surprises at all...thanks to your videos. Nice to hear BMW has improved the engine so when I can afford a 2017 GS ( in 2020!!), I'll know what to look forward to.

The standard can't be too bad as you still have yours , I've just bought a air cooled standard one liking it so far.

Hi TMF, a bit late viewing this one matey. Love your channel, but :-) all the things you dont like about the Adventure, i love, i love the the aggressive look, i like the scaffolding, and in the past ive always been the one that had to fuel up first, not now, i prefer the spokes, although a night mare to clean around. And, was so supprised when you said you would buy the Adventure over the standard. Its a year or so since you did this vlog, whats feeling on the two at the moment? Always look forward to your stuff, have a good weekend and look forward to more 'Stuff'. PS that screen on the Adveture you drove, looks bloody terrible.

Can you believe it, your review prompted me to change my beloved R1200R Sport for a 2000 mile R1200GSA TE in Ocean Blue (collected it today). I forgot how good the bike feels to ride and how much road presence it has. Also this was my first chance to try out my newly acquired Weiss heated gloves - worked a treat especially as we had a bit of light snow in South Herts. One very happy rider!

I remember these being introduced years ago. I didn't see the point of them. I still think most use them as a motorway tourer, so the RTs seem to make more sense to me, yet I quite fancy a GS :)

I do own a 2015 GSA, which is a great bike. As i ride it with very big cases at the back, i do like the bigger front of the adventure. The larger tank is also an advantage i wanted to have, as well as the spoke wheels (which are suitable for the normal GS as well). A problem that both cycles have (as well as many others: although their handlebars are quite wide, you still can't see anything in your rearview-mirrors (except your shoulders...). In summary, there is no better bike for two people to travel with luggage for two weeks (perhaps, other bikes are AS good, but none will be better)

was waiting for this comparisons. i m suprised you prefer the GS adventure. i testdrove both bikes and the 2016 standard GS didn t feel different compared to the adventure. i think the engine was as smooth as the adventures engine. anyway I baught the GSA because I love this big adventure look ith the crash bars, the alu panniers any the spoke wheels. my dealer told me: no one in Europe needs a GSA 😉 but if you want one, get one 😂👍 btw I also like landrover defender 😉 best British car ever 💪 great video cheers Tom

Actually the Adventure cost no only by 1,100 more, but almost 3,000 more once you add the top and side aluminum cases. The fact is, the majority of GS Adventure owners will never use the potential capability of this bike on very difficult off-road, but mostly for how comfortable it is on rides over 10 hours none-stop ;-)

Hi TMF, another great vid. My only thought is your comparing your 13 plate bike with a new one which you rightly point out has some engine mods. If I'm right the later machine has a heavier crank also. What would your thoughts be if both the new GS/GSA rode smoothly. Would be interested to know if you'd still choose the GSA. Cheers & all the best for 2017, Karl.

More than happy with my red (the quickest) 2016 GS TE. Heavier flywheel, smooth(ish) gearbox, full bars, spokkie wheels, Shift assist, keyless, everything bar the alarm. Use the change to put more petrol in the tank not cart it around.

What a refreshingly honest video! I don't know why your'e fighting it, just go and do the deal. lol I actually love the bulky aggresive looks compared to my 13 plate gs and as you say it takes minutes to get rid of the scaffolding, I only put mine back on when i'm off touring any distance, long weekends etc. just a kriega strapped to the back and a tank bag. What colour do you think you'll get?

Would have enjoyed seeing a comparison off road. I have a 2013 LC GS but have a mate in Canada who I persuaded to buy a GS and he went for the GSA. Love the look of his big girl and on a visit back home sat on it and thought it wasn't nearly as big as I thought it might be. Just curious on the characteristics of the two off road. That's why I bought mine....to go down those dirt roads and trails I couldn't go on a road bike :-)

TMF: At 5 ft. 8", do you find the 850 mm/33.5" seat height of the GS just right, or do you think a GS/GSA with lower seat height or lower suspension might be a better fit for you? Thank you, and I really enjoy your videos!

I have no problem whatsoever with the explorer weight i feel totally confident on it, funnily enough I had a kawasaki gtr 1400 before and although it was lower to the ground it caught me out many times on loose gravel and sloping camber junctions. admittedly it was heavier. I'm 6' and 14 stone.

Thanks for an excellent video! Just about to make a decision on my next bike. Initially had planned to check out both a Yamaha and a KTM. Have a 1200RT which has served me well, but want something more adventurous, that works well on gravel as well as tarmac, good or poor (of which we have lots). Having seen your video I am more convinced than before GSA is the way to go :)

Love the vids. Especially when I see that you just posted them. I was literally wondering your thoughts on the difference and boom, this vid popped up. As much as fuel and wind protection is important for me, I am just getting off a big Victory cross country tour and I want something small and agile. I have sat on both GSs and test road the adventure. The standard just feels more welcoming and more agile when I'm on it. Less imposing. Less mental thought.

I liked your report between the GS and the GS Adventure, I do own a GS. Now you are not commenting on the wheel which I was hoping you would do. You see you ride the GS in England where the streets are nice and smooth. I ride in Central America where we have a lot of bad roads and pad-holes. I had already the experience of bending my aluminum rims which I had to change. Which one you thing are better?

Hello! I just got a gs here in Brazil, amazing bike, im loving it, feels like i can spend an entire day on it, opposed to all bikes i had before. Just sometimes my head wobbles a bit at speed, giving me headaches. Do you think it can be the windscreen or helmet? Is it worth trying a new helmet or change to the adventure windscreen ( sold here as an optional ) or buy a windscreen elsewhere, like from Givi? Regards!

You should educate yourself a bit more before you bother to make a video. Besides the bigger tank, heavier duty panniers, extra tank protection, extra lighting extra wind protection enduro transmission better suspension spoke wheels they’re exactly the same.....for your type that are more interested in looks than function stick with the standard gs...

I have a question well two really, I have a 2007 r1200gs several months ago I experienced what I can only say resembled what we used to call a tank slap in the old days, I have to admit not experiencing something like this for many years I thought I was a goner!the only thing I put it down to was having the top box fitted and the wind coming over the top and causing the bike to sit down so to speak and making it go light on the front end,have you ever experienced this? Also, have you ever noticed on easy for the front end to wobble if you put that kind of input through the handlebars, I only noticed this when trying to figure out why my front end suddenly started to drift, have you any thoughts on this?

Main thing ive noticed of worth between my standard, and dads GSA. GSA has upgraded rear brake lever for off road standing riding. Bigger tank, Spoked wheels. I wouldnt pay attention about smoothness of engine, their identical and in your head!

Glad to hear that. I had a 2005 R1200GS and am now in the market for a new GSLC. It's good to hear, from a standard GS rider, that the GSA might be a slightly better choice. Thanks.

Nice review as always. I'm glad you chose the GSA marginally as I've just put a deposit down for one having watched your reviews lol. As I'm a short ar*e though, I had to go for the lowered suspension version with low seat and my 29 inch inside leg fits fine. I had a BMW RT1200 a couple of years ago and got on really well with that too, so will let you know how the GSA compares once I've had a few months in the the seat. Keep those videos coming, they're really helpful 👍 And Merry Xmas for when it arrives.

Another good review, as has already been pointed out all the engine & gearbox upgrades you experienced on the new GSA have been applied to the standard GS. I have ridden both recently & my impressions were that the GSA felt a little more like a tourer & the GS a little more 'fun' & nimble for everyday use although still a very capable touring bike. The steering geometry on the GSA is slightly different to the standard GS apparently for better off road use which in my opinion makes it a little more hard work on the road, although still very manageable. I opted after much thought for one of the last 2017 spec standard GS Triple Black models, should be great....