lol youtube hasnt finished uploading the hd version. anyways this took 3-4 days so i hope yall like it :D ALSO check the corrections bit in this comment sources and music below music: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mGw73KCwDTU.html - kevin macleod: dirt rhodes ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lhcZnlMNB9A.html - the whole other: ether oar ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aPW-zWY45lg.html - george and johnathan: whale ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6oywYJFFmt8.html - emily a. sprague: a slow dream credit to other ppl: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yiKLTUpSsco.html - NoobyX Tensegrity (couldnt find the channel again??) sources: all my own research corrections: 1. 0:49 it should say "multiplied by 2^(this -128)" (me) 2. the skybox starts flashing black at around 34 billion as @libanumbers7881 said, not 1 trillion 3. just found out the explosion sound isnt an easter egg its literally a thing in the model i used and didnt notice. bruh. everything else happens tho GAMES I USED since like 10000 people have asked lol: floating point test - www.roblox.com/games/9816382752/floating-point-test drive forever - www.roblox.com/games/8550695644/drive-forever robloxs fastest vehicle (no, not the good one) - www.roblox.com/games/8287259163/robloxs-fastest-vehicle
@@tristantheoofer2here's an another glitch well I seen this infamous glitch called NaN well for an reason the character is gonna glitch and it's possible well NaN stands for Not a Number. If there's invisible brick that does that there's no way well the mph or the character or the car is gonna reach the highest to the highest it's gonna say nan or nan (ind) because you don't see the shadows they disappear and reappearing it maybe possibly to get this glitch if the game got hd say :fly me nan the rig and character animation well not move the text, shadows and the character disappear and the cameramovement is.not gonna move so test this out.
as it turns out, you can now reach the impossible! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XCFVntHLk84.html (not my vid but roblox made a not too good mistake with r6)
I'm gonna make a guess as to why the explosion sound plays when you cross Roblox's true barrier. I think this happens because that's the sound the game makes whenever it deletes a part, and it's deleting the parts that make up the player in order to prevent a crash due to a random bit just outside of player position getting flipped.
2,147,483,647 isn’t actually a randomly chosen number, it’s actually the 32 bit integer limit, and 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,455 is the 128 bit integer limit, in fact a lot of these numbers that break some stuff actually either are integer limits, or halved or doubled integer limits
right but roblox used float32 instead of 64, so you can go to the 1024 bit integer on float64 but on float32 youre stuck at 128 due to floating point limitations. the real question tho is: why does it default to the 32 bit integer limit? is it because it uses that many bits for the number itself or what?
@Rpoti47 yep but it does do that. i actually discovered it on accident while fucking with roblox on my school pc and thought it was a ram issue bc those fuckers have 4gb of ram lmao. tested it on my phone after and it still happened
the glitches caused by stupid amounts of floating point precision loss have always been fascinating to me, i wonder if it's even possible for a game to be immune to this (maybe by using an integer or a long for coordinates? though that would add a hard limit before the world wraps around which also isn't good)
@@tristantheoofer2 if you just use integers (which lack decimal places at all and aren't subjected to issues that floats have) then there's no way to have floating point errors like this, but then the drawback is that the size of the area has to be very small i believe there are some games which do precisely that, but they're few and far between
@@someoneidk3358 while this would work, it would immediately stop working if you wanted to make it multiplayer, and physics calculations would also likely end up being weird
I used to play “walk on walls” games and sometimes I’d purposefully jump into the void and fall past the barriers. but now I know what causes this and how much further I could go. thanks.
Precision bugs aren’t caused by overflows and it’s just how floating point numbers are designed. We need them to represent really big and really small numbers, but when trying to allocate that with 32 bits we have to make some sacrifices (since we obviously cant represent every single number). Theres alot of precision on numbers closer to 0, but the further and further away we go, each step becomes larger and larger to accommodate for bigger numbers since if you are at something like 1.7x10^23, you most likely dont care about the extra decimal precision. I recommend watching jan misali’s video on the IEEE 784 standard if you want to learn more about how floats are constructed.
After reaching an exponent of 2, the precision will get halfened. Even at the range of 0 to 1. The 32-bit floating point format can represent 16777216 thanks to the exponent part of the number, but it won't be able to represent 16777217 because that requires the mantissa to be 24 bits which is impossible in the 32-bit format. It can work in the 64-bit format though!(referred to as "double" in some stuff) The maximum safe number for the 64-bit format is also way bigger than the 32-bit one(which is 16777216)
the explosion / crashing sound when you hit the absolute limit explains why i heard it. I was so confused because i was messing around with the physics of my player, then just died randomly and heard the sound effect. pretty neat
@@tristantheoofer2 ;speed 99999999999999999999999999999999999999 or however many fucking 9's you want, then angle yourself perfectly and hit a TINY bump in the ground, smaller than the size of an asshair my screen was flashing so much that it might have even been past 1 quadrillion studs ngl
@xdkristofsaltacc holy shit yeah that would DEFINITELY do it. actually if only went forward for 1 second at that speed then you wouldve gone that many studs, so 10 duodecillion which is damn near the limit
@@tristantheoofer2 I've reached a bit over a quadrillion studs by doing what @xdkristofsaltacc described, I know that's how far I was because I used a coordinate map.
I found out about this a few years ago. Also Wolfenstein 3D (in DOS) has a similar effect to Minecraft's farlands when you leave the game's play area (whatever it's called), you should check out that too, there's barely anything about it online. But i'm not sure how far you can go since the game is ancient. Also congrats on beating cancer!
Minecraft before 1.17 had the farmlands if you went over 12 million blocks from spawn and the farmlands reach out to 1 billion blocks similar to the world border that Is at 30 million blocks nowadays.
not sure if it was just a mistake, but they don't overflow its that as it gets bigger they can show less numbers. so when your at 0,0 it can be within 1/2^127 units, but as you go further out that main chunk of 23 bits isn't enough to make it smooth anymore so a tiny change in it could move you from 1/2^127 units, to a full unit or more. also congrats on beating cancer :> edit: I need to get into the habit of watching the video before trying to correct the intro 💀
um, acsktually, it's because floating point to integer conversion is really scuffed - it's why computers think 1+1=2.000000000000000000003. Basically, there's pretty much no exact integer values as the precision decreases in a strange way the further away from 0 you get, that's why it's called floating point (the decimal point is 'floating'). This also happens in geometry dash, where the numbers get so large that the next floating point number is more than one away.
@@tristantheoofer2this is actually pretty funny. But yeah, it happens in gd. And it's kinda the same. You reach a point where the BG starts flashing, the icon gets distorted, and you cannot move.
i once did a glitch to go to the null zone and got addicted to trying it in every game possible, i just watched as i became flat, then turned to a bunch of squares, then triangles, then became one single triangle, back to a square, and then just left reality and disappeared (edit) also i think it depends on hardware or the game, cuz i never had my camera refuse to work nor the skybox ever become black in the many many times i've gone to the null zone
if your camera never have or the skybox didnt turn black you didnt go to 2147483647 atleast. you probs went fucking ridiculously far, like 131 million, but not far enough for any real issues to occur :P
I've reached extremely far once and accidentally discovered the floating point. I originally called it the null zone (back then i was 7 I didn't know much but I have experienced all of these different variations of the floating point and once when I was like 11 I got to the furthest point where my screen was flashing black and white and then just turned to darkness and that was it. I was so freaked out back then)
I ended up figuring out this existed by a game called Noob Train, where I would edit my speed, then go up a ramp and glitch out of the barrier, where my character would of course glitch, and young me when I found that was so impressed by it. Edit: recently replayed the game, got to the point where my screen is flashing black.
i managed to get to 67 million stud stage of glitching (level 7 in your video) in the game build a boat for treasure somehow! it was really fun discovering this floating point zone myself, simply putting hundreds of rocket thrusters together and launching myself into oblivion
@@tristantheoofer2A very quick way to get to the floating point zone in build a boat is eat red candy (halloween exclusive item) then equip an ultra jetpack (robux item) then eat a blue candy (halloween exclusive item) and finally eat a pink candy (halloween exclusive item) then hold jump A method for people without robux is probably use the magnet glitch or alot of thrusters
thanks dude! i tend to release vids every couple months basically when i feel so they might not be that frequent, but when they do come i hope youll watch more of them :D
You should make a game in the null zone and have it show how every aspect of roblox changes So like movement pvp item use and other stuff like ai Edit: Probably only in the playable parts but having teleport pads or just cool seamless portals would be cool. Just make sie you can’t enter the back of portals. They made that mistake in a game called ability wars and that big Apple is so powerful.
@@tristantheoofer2 ok. I just edited my comment some more and I just saw yours because it updated my page when i edited my comment but these technical videos are really cool. Maybe you can need work the player stats or just play with velocity or damage and negative health. I just checked 2^31-1 is 2147483647 which also has something really important to do with some math i think. I think I forgot what I wanted to write next.
@44hd59 it absolutely does. actually its why the farlands began at all, bc perlin noise overflowed over it. the fartherlands are the same thing but since theres LESS iterations (atleast i think) its why they start way further out
one time i tried to create a cannon in a roblox game that has a googol studs per second speed to launch me. the cannon usually made the camera partially unmovable. sometimes it made my screen entire black, sometimes it left with the roblox skybox. but i recently saw a rare occurence after launching from the cannon where the screen only had 2 black vertical bars on the side of the screen, while keeping the visible screen at the center. kinda like a 4:3 screen. i only saw that twice at that time, so if you seen that glitch before pls let me know
There’s a game called Roblox’s fastest vehicle I believe, and it’s a great showcase of this effect, as it sends you out past any barriers super fast, allowing you to fall infinitely and showcase this effect quite well.
ive actually seen similar stuff in building games on roblox like flyout, since you can break the game to go over 700k studs a second, i never even knew there was a barrier since normally youd slowly distort from a point you werent able to tell!
I wonder if floating point error can be used as a retro effect in Roblox. It reminds me of old pre-2000 games where computer hardware was still very limited so some games were very jittery and had their polygons and triangles always snap to some rounded position.
thanks :D and yeah i dont understand what the deal is with no originality :P makes youtube feel kinda stale sometimes lol. btw the next video im making is gonna be on literally the entirety if roblox obby history since i used to be in the community and know quite a lot abt it, tho if it isnt itll be the 2nd next video
@@tristantheoofer2 just dont get an addiction from high numbers been there done that and i personally dont recommend reddit for a lot of reasons i seen few small channels grow fast and they retained their identity and personality which is the most important part of a channel with a soul so dont lose that improvement and followers will come on their own as long as you keep moving
@Nogardtist yeah its pretty hard honestly :P atleast for now since theyre kinda exploding and i 1000% expect em to drop to something thats abt 5% of what im getting now within a week or so lol
I reached around 9999999999999999999999 studs per second by using a overclocked convenior belt on a building game that i forgot the name. Its name was su, around "build your dream house".
I did not know there were any barriers, since i went past them at such i did not even lose momentun. Once you reach a certain speed and stop touching ground in roblox, you become a unstopable force that will reach the ned of this reality no matter what.
@@Seven_Red_Suns. fr. depending on your speed the walking barrier changes. at 16 speed its 2197152, at 32 its 4194304 and it doubles every precision loss point
I remember playing build a boat and I made a rocket that had 8 stages lol and I think it took me less then 6 seconds before everything started to glitch out. I’m glad this is actually getting attention
One time, I flung myself so high that the skybox turned completely black, my health turned negative AND I had to restart the instance TWICE, JUST for it to continue being normal (remember that this was in Roblox Studio)
this has happened to me in nico's nextbots before, if you use the developer gun and you right click while looking down after jumping you literally get sent flying up into the sky, when that happened to me, the first person body was all glitchy and then my character died.
wait you actually think so? thanks man! i actually made another vid like this 6 months ago also and it blew up too lmao. maybe bc nobody made explainers on the topic before? idk. also i saw you commented on the i beat cancer video so thanks :D a new vid on how deep minecrafts void is (the REAL answer, everyones got it wrong) is dropping in like 2-3 days btw, so be on the lookout for that :P
It’s impressive how computers can handle these large numbers. Floats aren’t a new technology either, as it was made on the mid 90’s with consoles such as Nintendo 64 and Sony PlayStation.
0:14 YOO TAHT HAS HAPPENED TO ME LOT OF TIMES... I was curious so I didn't reset yet I've been falling to the point that avatar was picelated and glitched it was crazy
I once got the skybox flickering glitch in one game and didn't understand why it happened (I knew about the floating point zone but not about the skybox glitch) and apparently I managed to get flung a trillion studs away from spawn. Nice
i learned later it was 34 billion after some other guy in the commented abt it lol. tested it and yeah. so you got atleast 34 BILLION studs. thats still really fucking impressive tho
THIS IS AMAZING! and i had reached like 1 trillion studs without teleporting or hacking or just having alot of speed i reached it by fling controlling in a game
'Well, this has an explanation of why it exists... But this happened with the avatar display window when customizing my avatar. It was absolutely bizarre effects that could go well with any horror game that uses the phobia of being deleted. Like, the face was divided in a repeating pattern of triangles that interlock and connect to one another, most of the arms, legs and back accessories extended into long strands with smaller strands branching off of it. The only visible part of my character during the time was the word "Glitch" which was on one of the accessories that go over my avatar's face. Everything that wasn't the glitch accessory glitched in and out of existence as I slowly spun it. That glitch then stopped as I refreshed the page... But I will not forget about the screenshot I took of it. Such maddening patterns, such eldritch design... Not even my digital art of mine is capable of replicating the same unfathomable shapes that this glitch created. Maybe glitches can also be a way of art as chaos is. ' - Chrome
An easy way to replicate this fast is play ragdoll simulator, teleport to the plane and turn gravity off, enter ragdoll mode and hold jump for a minute or 2, maybe a bit longer and the effect will show relatively quickly
nope thats not editing its legitimately what happened. im still trying to discern if thats legit what happens (health dropping to 0 is i think) or the rocket thing i was using to test it exploding
its called "drive forever" and im actually the one who made it lol. heres the link if you wanna play it at all :P www.roblox.com/games/8550695644/drive-forever
@scout7160 yep i know that and they actually exist in java too (at 2^53 instead of 2^24) but i didnt think they were worth mentioning in my other video :P oh and the infdev stone wall stuff too. honestly i may make a history if minecrafts farlands video after im done making the one thats going up around next week
@@jakfjfrgneibedrock did actually have the actual farlands until 1.17.20, when mojang just decided to fix it out of the random, but the stripe lands still exist, alongside the dot lands (corner stripe lands)
lol i was driving my car retail tycoon 2. accidentally drove into a tree by 110km/s, and then... kind of... flew away? idk. and i was going with like 300 thousand km/s diagonally up and forward and... let's just say that... i was glitching. VERY MUCH. and then i disappeared. now, i know why. XD
I know I'm late, but I know there's a glitch that features this on Work at a Pizza Place. However, it requires a car and for you to equip the gravity coil whilst driving said car. If you exit the car while still holding the gravity coil, you'll fly up. It'll be a while, but you can go past Roblox's floating point zone and be reduced to literally nothing.
ye someone else said smth like this and i had no idea how to do it. so ty! also i think the reason it does what it does is that the momentum from the car carries over, but since the actual gravity bit is set to almost 1 already BEFORE that (because thats how it works, i think it takes your height and multiplies it by some constant) it rolls over 1 which means you dont hit the ground and dont even go towards it lmao
Hey, what's the music at 4:15? It's pretty cool and I wanted to know what it is. Also great job explaining how the Floating Point system works! Really paints a better idea of what causes the imprecisions to begin with Edit: I noticed you link the music in your comment, thanks tor that! ^^
One time in build a boat I reached a trillion or more studs when the skybox was completely black using the infinite gold grinder with 2 players after 1 died, I was able to reach this point SOMEHOW, like complete pitch black or I couldn't notice the flash of the skybox.
3:10 reaching 1 million studs a while ago actually used to be its own barrier as passing it would cause you to fall into the floor. i actually did a series of streams 2 years ago to walk to that point for 18 hours in bloxel because of this.
Sometime I want to read a story about some video game world that uses these area limits and visual bugs and errors and all that jazz as a plot point. I already love that type of meta story, I just want to see THIS type of meta story someday.
hi. I dont know why but i also have an addiction into diving deep into numbers and that wierd shit. Ive watched all these types of videos and it makes me rethink my life choices. Im also working on a video on floating point so you gained a new sub! :)
i love how so many games have bugs super similar or exactly the same to this. one of the most effected games is minecraft (bedrock) where teleporting just 2 million blocks out from spawn will cause you to be unable to move in straight lines and all animals will fall through the blocks. any further and the whole world turns into a sort of checkerboard ocean with whole villages floating on top - abandoned of life as it all fell through the "floor" even mario has this bug
every game does actually lol. yes even mc java edition but at around 1 quadrillion for the same issues as at 2 million and the stripelands show up at 9 quadrillion or so with the farlands showing up at abt 35-36 quadrillion or smth like that
@@Elementening have you heard of the fringelands too? bc if you havent i actually have a vid on that also lol. and yeah the bedrock edition bugginess is pretty fun to mess with
@@tristantheoofer2 i have! i watched your void and farlands videos right after and im surprised at how well they're put together. very underrated, keep it up 👍
@Elementening thank you my dude :D btw my next video is likely gonna be over an HOUR long because itll be doing an absolutely massive deep dive into the history of roblox obbies and its community. like i mean absolutely everything from when the types of obby showed up to when glitches were discovered to when certain achievements happened. and if its not out by february there will be another video ready by then abt that one glitch that makes minecrafts end a bunch of donuts lol
I experienced this once when I was playing be crushed by a speeding wall, I got glinted and instead of dying my character looked all glitchy, it was pretty freaking cool.
first time this happened to me was when i was playing PLS DONATE and as i jumped on the bench, teleported to my booth, repeated it and then jumped off the world, it yeeted me to the height limit and my avatar was slowly turning into polygons, triangles and then just a small pixel
yeah bc im just used to doing it lol. and honestly i feel more ppl just SHOULD do that if applicable :P i feel like it makes it so its a more tight knit community and i just like doing it. tho its getting INCREDIBLY fucking hard to do it now bc i get like 40 comments an hour lmao
@tristantheoofer2 Honestly, i really agree with this. I feel that when people do reply to comments, they feel like they are part of the community rather than just another number in their views
aight here you go. btw i made every game showcased in the video (not even specifically for it) lol www.roblox.com/games/8287259163/robloxs-fastest-vehicle
7:16 that’s a bit limit. 2147483647 is the largest number bags can handle. -2147483648 is the smallest possible number in Java. I am definitely not an expert so if you know better you can just correct me and I will learn more knowledge. (Definitely a grammar mistake)
its the 32 bit integer, its 2^31-1, so roblox engine prob uses 32 bit integer, it also happens in more games something with 32 bit integer, usually a limit of a number, like the powder toy, the max u can set the temperature of a particle is the 32 bit integer, if u try 1 more it goes to negative
