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Alastair and Rory recount their respective encounters with media mogul Rupert Murdoch

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@kenharris5390
@kenharris5390 Год назад
In 1949, Albert Einstein warned that the time would come “when the very rich so controlled the means of communication that it would be almost impossible for ordinary people to make informed decisions and so democracy would then be broken”.
@Tomara710
@Tomara710 11 месяцев назад
Einstein was a smart man.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
Did he even say that? Surprisingly easy for the people to be duped. It might call into question all elections. Democracy maybe is not so good.
@rhiannonhill
@rhiannonhill 2 месяца назад
@@Tomara710 But he didn't say half the stuff that people attribute to him. He was a scientist. He never commented on politics. Fact check it.
@rhiannonhill
@rhiannonhill 2 месяца назад
@@johnnotrealname8168 You think that, try living in Russia for a while.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 2 месяца назад
@@rhiannonhill I would rather not but they do seem to have that high-income economy thing going on.
@bobstephens5599
@bobstephens5599 Год назад
Their Australian accents are quietly very good.
@jstelzner
@jstelzner Год назад
A future prime minister of Great Britain had to travel thousands of miles to Bow before a press Baron and in your time in power you didn't think maybe we should Curve this guy's power!
@easycoding8255
@easycoding8255 Год назад
Back in those days when social media wasn't what it is now, people were avid newspaper readers. If you started a war with a corporation responsible for millions of readers' daily paper, you'd find yourself very unpopular. Taking them on would backfire immensly. I don't think there's a way they would have gotten away with it back then.
@SardonicALLY
@SardonicALLY Год назад
You're not wrong, but also I don't think they were there just to see Murdock, there was some Aussie relations stuff happening too.
@sbwords
@sbwords Год назад
@@easycoding8255 so you admit they had to do a deal with Murdoch to get elected. It stinks, and it still stinks.
@JamJam0189
@JamJam0189 Год назад
Same still happens now as The Sun but even the left-leaning Guardian did not back Corbyn's Labour, so to win about 40% of the vote in 2017 was the all the more remarkable. @@easycoding8255
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
How exactly do you curb a newspaper's power? That seems oddly dictatorial.
@adamcummings20
@adamcummings20 11 месяцев назад
Ive recently watched the show Succession and didnt know anything about Murdoch, so these stories are fascinating.
@elspethgibson7625
@elspethgibson7625 Год назад
Didn't Labour drop its policy on press ownership after that meeting in Australia
@michaelmccomb2594
@michaelmccomb2594 Год назад
Press ownership?
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
How the @~?£ would they justify that one?
@simony2801
@simony2801 3 месяца назад
@@johnnotrealname8168 murdochs support obviously.
@chittzz3397
@chittzz3397 11 месяцев назад
Alistair cambell the chief medical officer of spin, managed to spin rupert murdoch 😂😂😂 8:30
@paulrush4274
@paulrush4274 Год назад
All very cosy.
@pragmatika5397
@pragmatika5397 Месяц назад
Government s job is to limit the power of monopolies especially media monopolies. Not kow tow to them.
@michaelashworth4172
@michaelashworth4172 3 месяца назад
"Tony gave the (hesitation)....sort of. ....speech". This is the moment when everything changed. When Comms (Alistair Campbell's domain) started to reign supreme. It's been downhill ever since - catastrophically so.
@PurpleAlogia
@PurpleAlogia Год назад
Why is it important who Elizabeth is married to and not the sons?
@gardenroom65
@gardenroom65 Год назад
Misogyny of course. Typical Auzzie.
@JamJam0189
@JamJam0189 Год назад
Same still happens now, as The Sun but even the left-leaning Guardian did not back Corbyn's Labour, so to win about 40% of the vote in 2017 was the all the more remarkable, the media have been softer on Starmer as the party moves to the centre.
@Anna-ry4nz
@Anna-ry4nz 11 месяцев назад
The Guardian did what they ALL should do - Report the facts without attempting to steer the public’s decision towards the paper’s favourite guy.. He does the same with his Australian papers - Part of why a historically bad decision was made yesterday Murdoch has changed this little blue planet - not for the better
@JamalBrown-k1x
@JamalBrown-k1x 9 месяцев назад
The Guardian really isn't that left wing. I started reading it a few years ago.
@peteralflat281
@peteralflat281 Год назад
Major was a totally busted flush in '97 Labour would have won with or without Murdoch. Maybe it helped increase Labour's majority, but definitely not the overall outcome.
@michaelashworth4172
@michaelashworth4172 3 месяца назад
Sadly missing the point about what changed in 1997.
@sama2086
@sama2086 3 месяца назад
idk man the papers were much bigger deal in 1997
@76Rubes
@76Rubes Год назад
Another interesting story is the relationship between Blair and Murdoch's ex wife...
@jimmymac4778
@jimmymac4778 9 месяцев назад
@76Rubes not much came out about that except Murdoch divorced her 😂😂😂
@JoshuaRoss2
@JoshuaRoss2 2 месяца назад
*then wife
@dantaylor757
@dantaylor757 Год назад
Two of the most self-righteous, egregious men in British politics.
@gardenroom65
@gardenroom65 Год назад
Blair and Wendy Deng? That’s key. Top secret.
@jimmymac4778
@jimmymac4778 9 месяцев назад
@gardenroom64 enuf said 😂😂😂
@pragmatika5397
@pragmatika5397 Месяц назад
Alastair you are starstruck. You shouldn't have even entertained meeting Murdoch. Ever.
@TheSackblabbath
@TheSackblabbath Год назад
... I hate that these things stop just as they’re getting good...
@pollytickle8346
@pollytickle8346 Год назад
I think voters actually voted in. Right wingers did their usual Properganda, Thatcher this & that. But even after all this time, I have never forgotten what a evil piece of work she was & how life in the UK was awful it was for us common people. Suella is like her twin but without the tutored voice, which was grating. Even writing this post has given me cold shivers. 😱😬
@gardenroom65
@gardenroom65 Год назад
Rubbish. House prices went up, the economy was good.
@GrahamRead101
@GrahamRead101 11 месяцев назад
She did alot that needed to be done; for one thing the unions were out of control - and too much in control
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
The economy took a hit but it needed to happen. Inflation was out of control and increased interest rates were needed to cool the economy. Ironically not listening caused a later recession.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
@@gardenroom65It was iffy. Although it is painful and definitely horrific for those on the doll but cooling down inflation was the right thing to do. However other than messing up a certain Wednesday, Sir John Major did a brilliant job on the economy.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
@@GrahamRead101The left still cannot understand that forcing unions, having to force them, to democratise was vital and that they can be a vested interest which destroys not only the fabric of society but also democracy.
@gatpiozo
@gatpiozo Год назад
And this is the democracy they tell the world about. What a joke
@Govanmauler
@Govanmauler Год назад
Is Campbell lying or delusional on a Hulk Hogan level?
@rockydopeydoge6730
@rockydopeydoge6730 3 месяца назад
May be WMD level
@superwelshman
@superwelshman 11 месяцев назад
Do they both have accent coaches? How come everyone can do an Aussie accent all of a sudden
@rhiannonhill
@rhiannonhill 2 месяца назад
I was a journalist and covered the antics of Murdoch for some years as I actually wrote about my own industry, I also met Maxwell several times and was a personal friend of his own press officer who of course leaked to us like mad, because Maxwell was so awful, much to his puzzlement and consternation... I once showed him some incriminating material which showed something naughty he was going to do ON TV and he screwed it up in a ball and threw it in my face hahahahaha...ON TV, in front of cameras. Just didn't care......these people! They don't care about politics only insofar as interfering, or attempting to interfere in politics serves their business interests. I'm sure Campbell is right about 1997, and we all thought that at the time. Stop worrying about his 'influence'. He doesn't own any TV media in the UK any more, and the Sun is now a comic on a permanently downward circulation trajectory, including online. We should be very worried about the Daily Mail, which has been incredibly successful online, worldwide now. That needs looking at. Murdoch is a distraction. The Mail's owner and his vile puppet Paul Dacre are a far, far bigger threat to democracy. I don't agree with the all the TRIP couple's ideologies but they know stuff, and certainly Stewart tells the truth. Which is why he didn't win the Tory leadership campaign of course.
@kjambrose
@kjambrose 3 месяца назад
2:32 Keating famously known for keeping the Brits happy
@WxAxNxDxExRxExR
@WxAxNxDxExRxExR 11 месяцев назад
The war criminal openly admitting which master they were serving -- priceless! "Democracy", blah, blah, blah.
@thecrankster
@thecrankster Год назад
Get him on Leading fellas
@sausagembape677
@sausagembape677 Год назад
Campbell thinks that Murdoch had nothing to do with them winning the election 🤣🤣🤣
@lutherblissett9070
@lutherblissett9070 Год назад
He's probably right
@sbwords
@sbwords Год назад
Campbell admitting that Labour was in Murdoch’s pocket and boasting about it. He’s confirming what we’ve all suspected - Labour is no different from the Tories.
@camtheo7555
@camtheo7555 Год назад
Complete misinterpretation
@sbwords
@sbwords Год назад
@@camtheo7555 Really. Why would Blair fly half way around the world other than to pay homage? You are naive.
@anthonymcnamee6297
@anthonymcnamee6297 Год назад
Without a doubt
@Fort976
@Fort976 Год назад
He said nothing of the sort
@andrewstorm8240
@andrewstorm8240 Год назад
Both talking about an invisible man in terms of the publics knowledge of him
@musik102
@musik102 11 месяцев назад
Interesting stuff, and it makes you realise that things are rarely, cut and dried, black and white.
@jamin1051
@jamin1051 3 месяца назад
The lack of self awareness displayed by Campbell here is incredible
@GarethPW
@GarethPW Год назад
Nothing but complete disdain for British democracy in this clip.
@BiggusDiggusable
@BiggusDiggusable 11 месяцев назад
Don't be silly
@pragmatika5397
@pragmatika5397 Месяц назад
Campbell was obviously in utter thrall to Murdoch. So wrong.
@TNT79714G
@TNT79714G Год назад
Murdoch backed you in 97 because he knew Blair was in his pocket. Blair is the Godfather to one of his kids. Everyone Murdoch has backed since he took over The Sun has become PM, literally every one of them. To pretend he backs the winning horse rather than crowning them is naive to say the least.
@enemywithin1295
@enemywithin1295 Год назад
Labour would have won in ‘97 regardless of The Sun. It’s Murdoch et al who likes to over egg his ego by making him out to be this king maker type figure. They’re a populist newspaper - hence why in 2008 following the financial crash they were writing stories about bankers bonuses and fat cats. Murdoch’s main concern is selling newspapers and making lots of money - they follow the public opinion at the time.
@benpurvis4677
@benpurvis4677 Год назад
Blair would have won without Murdoch. Starmer will now win without Murdoch
@alice1374
@alice1374 Год назад
@@benpurvis4677 Yep. Although Starmer's probably even more one of Murdoch's own who will be in govt if he doesn't mess it up considering he's still u-turning on stuff i.e. equalities. Further right on equalities than Braverman and that's a disgrace.
@TNT79714G
@TNT79714G Год назад
@@benpurvis4677 There is no evidence that Blair would have been the exception to the rule. Murdoch has just retired but Starmer writes articles for The Sun and is very friendly with the right-wing press. So he is already courting their blessing.
@aidanjohnkelly
@aidanjohnkelly Год назад
@@benpurvis4677 Starmer has already courted Murdoch
@razabadass
@razabadass 3 месяца назад
Thanms
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 Год назад
Complicit in establishing the uk's perpetual generic politics era.
@mallafets
@mallafets 11 месяцев назад
Blair was not the brightest, they call him Bambi in the US as he was so open eyed at anyone famous in front of him. He even thought Brazilians spoke Spanish for goodness sake.
@indivestor
@indivestor 11 месяцев назад
Yeah and mean someone that became PM of the UK was not the brightest....Tony Blair could wipe the floor intellect wise with anyone here making any comments!
@mallafets
@mallafets 11 месяцев назад
@@indivestor you think Thatcher, Boris, Truss were clever people? They were not. If you ever met Blair privately you would be surprised, he is not the brightest.
@Tridhos
@Tridhos 10 месяцев назад
Murdoch recognized the inevitable and swung his support behind Labour there was never any need for Blair to bend the knee but unfortunately the latest Labour leader also felt that he had to do the same.
@camoTiara
@camoTiara 11 месяцев назад
Of course he listened, he's a narcissist, and a narcissist will try to control you. Guess what ?....
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 Год назад
Wax, grease, certain people's egos.
@deconstructedluxury1964
@deconstructedluxury1964 Год назад
Hmm Alistair, your mask slipped. Surely you should be blaming your mental health rather than nostalgically musing on your past.....
@Brokout
@Brokout Год назад
Rory, tell everyone about your time as chair of the secretive anti democratic group, Le Cercle. Their agenda from 1979 stated: "Undercover financial transactions for political aims" "International campaigns aiming to discredit hostile personalities or events" "Creation of a (private) intelligence service specialising in a selective point of view" Under your leadership did you help further these causes at the same time that you were also an MP?
@Thomas_basiv
@Thomas_basiv Год назад
He told everyone all about it the other day on Novara
@Brokout
@Brokout Год назад
@@Thomas_basiv Just listened and he gave a complete non-answer, Ash should have pushed and asked what they have accomplished and if it’s not secretive, name some names.
@Thomas_basiv
@Thomas_basiv Год назад
@@Brokout He wasn’t there in 1979, he’d be naming names of people that feign self-importance by attending pseudo-espionage networking events. You can probably find out who was involved with a little digging, how did u find out Rory was involved
@Brokout
@Brokout Год назад
@@Thomas_basiv He must have known the history of that group and was fine to join knowing it. If his ‘people meet up to talk about China and Russia’ answer satisfies your curiosity then that’s cool but I think joining an unaccountable secret group that ties directly to your role in government is worrying and should be further explored.
@trytwicelikemice3190
@trytwicelikemice3190 Год назад
​@Brokout he said it's not what you're making it out to be. That's not a non-answer, it's an answer you don't like.
@paulmarshall4793
@paulmarshall4793 Год назад
This is disgusting. Campbell is vile and they should be publicly shamed
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie Год назад
This is how it all works and always has around the world. We should appreciate that this guy is talking about it openly.
@paulmarshall4793
@paulmarshall4793 Год назад
@@ferociousfrankie well not really he's been rehabilitated in the public eye. Send all Murdoch collaborators to the Barclays island for now and in perpetuity
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie Год назад
@@paulmarshall4793 I was referring to the state of politics in general.
@paulmarshall4793
@paulmarshall4793 Год назад
@@ferociousfrankie oh hairy muff 👍 saw some red at the end of the vid 😂
@ince55ant
@ince55ant Год назад
you spelled hanged wrong
@olivergilpin
@olivergilpin 11 месяцев назад
Where’s the rest of this clip / episode??
@alexkat8297
@alexkat8297 11 месяцев назад
Thank God we got rid of unelected European bureaucrats to be ruled by unelected Australian moguls.
@JonnyMcJonFace
@JonnyMcJonFace Год назад
I wonder who Murdoch supports or crowns for the next general election 🧐
@aktarhussain4437
@aktarhussain4437 11 месяцев назад
To show what type of snake Blair is, murdoch supported Blair to the hilt, Blair then had an “alleged” affair with Murdochs wife
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
Why are you alleging alleged?
@aktarhussain4437
@aktarhussain4437 10 месяцев назад
@@johnnotrealname8168because it’s “alleged” 😉
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
@@aktarhussain4437Alleging an allegation is quite more than mere allegation.
@anthonymcnamee6297
@anthonymcnamee6297 Год назад
True
@TheChosen2030
@TheChosen2030 Год назад
2 evils
@jons355
@jons355 11 месяцев назад
Starmer will probably be the first elected PM in 50 years that doesn’t have the support of the Murdoch press. It will be interesting to see what kind of climate that subsequently creates in our political ecosystem
@simonfrost7094
@simonfrost7094 11 месяцев назад
All that means (IMHO) is that the Murdoch press is no longer relevant or has the same power anyone thought it had. We live in a pluralistic media landscape now, thanks to social media and all the different news channels online, like TLDR or news Podcasts like the News Agents, which didn't exist even ten years ago.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
If he is elected of course.
@corincowley1351
@corincowley1351 5 месяцев назад
Does Murdoch seriously oppose Starmer? I haven't seen much evidence of it.
@jons355
@jons355 5 месяцев назад
@@corincowley1351 I think it may be more a case of the Conservatives being SO unpopular, some of his outlets have no choice but to back Starmer, rather than feeling remotely supportive of him. I think The Times will back Labour, but it’s hard to see The Sun doing the same now, they’re too far down the Tory rabbit hole
@timcomley5948
@timcomley5948 Год назад
Much prefer balls Osborne pod
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 Год назад
Was Paul Keating a good Prime Minister? Lowest satisfaction rating. Since Newspoll began in 1985, the lowest satisfaction rating of any prime minister is by far Paul Keating's at 17% in August 1993, with a 6% difference between Keating and the nearest low rating of Julia Gillard at 23% in September 2011.
@LennyColton
@LennyColton Год назад
He was good enough to win the election in 1993, though not in 1996.
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 Год назад
@@LennyColton Many an unsatisfactory character have been known to win the odd election. (It doesn't make them good!)
@williamdoughty3742
@williamdoughty3742 Год назад
Winning elections doesn’t make you a good pm
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 10 месяцев назад
I did not realise that lady was so unpopular. WoW! Since Sir Anthony Charles Lynton Blair got cosy with John Winston Howard for Iraq.
@getinthevantim
@getinthevantim 8 месяцев назад
Keating was a bloody brilliant Prime Minister. and Gillard's government was the most productive in legislative terms for many years. Newspoll's 'results' aren't worth a cracker because they just massage the data to express whatever opinion Rupert tells them to.
@pollytickle8346
@pollytickle8346 Год назад
I agree with Campbell.
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