When Gameshows Go Horribly Wrong (2017) 

She didn't so dodge a bullet... She dodged a freaking nuke.

It was a crap shoot, Alcala didn't kill every woman he took out.

Thank you for putting this together . Cheered me up.

True, but somebody who responds to a man wanting to represent himself as a banana... Poor taste in SO MANY WAYS.

@@georgielancaster1356 She knew he had a peel, lol.

It's more a wrong of the show staff for managing to find and greenlight the _one_ guy who kills people. She could have been the victim of a lackluster background check 🤦

She said something about him creeper her our so she didn't go

you guys have to understand the mind of a serial killer... which is extremely hard if not impossible sometimes. the sheer audacity that he went on TV knowing he's a serial killer... how can a game show in the 60s-70s do a "background check for serial killers?" seriously... the was back when the CIA was just starting its department of Behavioral Studies Unit. well shown in Mind Hunter (s)

@@daydreamers8254Mind Hunter is about the FBI not the CIA

They did fail to properly vet him. Fortunately, his "date" read his vibes.

that drag at the end! When you can see the foot is going the wrong way... gaaaaaah

@@Sunnysaleen Yea men just die in war, get limbs amputated, fight through much worse much more often..., but yes... power of women indeed.

She was called Judith the Baker for ages threw all the heats,and all her wins , it was only when she won the all-stars and broke her leg she was just called Judith the champion

yeah,cringe overload

No. Teatime isn't when we drink tea. It's when we eat dinner in the evening. Also known as supper. It's more often said in the Northern regions of England. However, drinking tea is having a cup of tea, having a cuppa. Afternoon tea is kind of drinking tea but eating biscuits, cake, or sandwiches at the same time. I'm still waiting to hear a different American word for Mother. Dearest, perhaps?

i thought hed overheard someone say "chicken" as an answer so went with turkey. either way its priceless!!

any tv show that is about dating is exploitative and horrible. they pick people who they know are gonna fai cus it makes a funny story. in the interviews as soon as the guy said he's alternative they where like "right we have a winner here lets get him to come on looking like a failed rockstar".

I thought he was cute. The tux was definitely not it and I think the platinum blonde hair ruined it lol. He seems so nice!

He seems cool imo. He was like a male Rapunzel that became a Rockstar. Idk what those women was thinking

Honestly it was kind of shocking, a pretty guy and I totally loved his vibes of the suit and his hair. Idk he pulled it off fr it's just kinda gross how these sort of ""dating"" shows worked.

theres 4. fawn as well

I'm not following you? If you mean fawn as in a baby deer, a fawn will freeze as a part of its camouflage technique. And freezing os one of the three forms I mentioned. I am open to hearing of another one, but I am not understanding your point?@@SA-rj4kc

There are 5 fear responses - Fight, Flight, Freeze, Flop, Friend 🙂

If it wasn't a joke, she'll definitely never make it in standup.

​@@topherwintersdamb, brutal 😂😂

@@topherwinters god this had me absolutely pissing myself

Just goes to show, always listen to your gut

Yea.. Ur right.. it kinda sucks he never got to go on a date with her :(

i think actually if she did go it would maybe have exposed him. theres little place to hide when youre on a date being watched by a chaperone. she would have been completly safe but would maybe have gotten something out of him that could have caught him sooner

@@ThePurpleCheesecakeZebra I think you undererstimate Alcala and psychopaths as a whole. They spend all their life building a persona that they play whenever they don't want to kill a person. That's why they appear rather charming to most people. Alcala would never be so careless and just slip up on a random girl he won at a gameshow.

So Drew Scarey is the Clive Anderson of the USA.

@@ticketyboo2456 When it comes to Whose Line, I guess so. A couple of the regular performers from the UK version, Colin Mochrie and Ryan Stiles, wound up being regulars when the show started in Los Angeles. Even with a different host in the most recent version, they're still continuing with the show, though it will be coming to an end fairly soon.

@@bluebear1985 Aisha Tyler really classed up the joint.

Wait... The Drew Carey Show's host was called Drew Carey? Damn...

@retroactyv It was actually a sitcom, but there could be the odd episode where he was considered to be the "host" I guess.😁

The main reason,in my view is the cost of video tapes($300 apiece).

Lol😂😂😂 exactly

Literally went first, got overtaken by others who started after her, and another person got a broken foot and still came in last? Yep. That's probably gonna hurt more than that broken foot.

Looks like they got stuck in the net. You know how in movies they'd throw a net over someone and they'd get stuck? I'm guessing it's somewhat realistic and you can get stuck in them.

On the plus side, nobody would remember her, but yeah, the personal memory would haunt me forever.

i think adrenaline and also the motivation to win probably got her through. it is kinda shocking the things people will put themselves through for money

I don't think there was any cash on the line for Krypton Factor. Pure bragging rights. It was some of the best telly every too. You got a trophy for winning and every contestant got a sweatshirt. @@ThePurpleCheesecakeZebra

I feel like she would have won if she hadn't broken her leg. Amazing indeed.

@@owie4070 I don't think she would have beaten Mike Brennan he was the fastest on the course that year. But she definitely would have come second.

After 40 years of seeing this clip again and again on various shows, I noticed for the first time that she also loses her hat.

@@catnewskawai9367 I didn't notice it then and didn't now until it was mentioned. Somehow the ivory carshredder under her nose distracted me

Almost didn't notice until I was mentioned! The ivory car-shredder under the nose distracted me LOL

I watched an episode in the late 70s or early 80s where a contestant got on stage and told Barker she wanted to take her clothes off. I guess he had her figured as trying to provoke a reaction, because he just said, "alright, go ahead." She did not, in fact, go ahead. 😂

As an American, I smiled when this clip was included in this show. However, I was rather astonished the "moment of truth" was aired here relatively unedited. That's what I like about Europeans; we're far too uptight about that stuff!

Shame she wasn’t as nice in person 😢

@@natashafrance717 I never met her.

The way she was laughing after she was exposed as well, showing she really didn't care about misleading the guy. We only saw the helicopter flight, but remember and try to imagine, they spent a whole day, night, and morning together, at least 24hours she kept up her manipulation.

and a huge Thatcherite

Cila and her production team led him on too. They would have discovered she was a journalist at some point and they chose to keep it quiet from him. They all wasted that guys time and embarrassed him on national TV.

They called one the hosts a dirty cow what are you on--

I know, it’s not like they were asking for a million dollars. I’m hardly well-off but if I was the host I’d feel like saying “Don’t worry I’ll sort that out for you” to every one of them. Presumably only one of them won and the rest just had to go back to whatever shit they were dealing with.

Lmao I just finished the clip they literally could have given all of the women what they wanted with all the stuff they piled on the winner.

Thanks to vaccines we don't have to worry about kids being disabled bcs of polio any longer..

It was excruciatingly awful. Set in the 1950's. Sure to have had widows, possibly with children, from WW2. Even WW1 widows, who have lived in poverty for decades, possibly wiped out by the Great Depression. To be truthful, the last person I would feel sad for, is someone who is married to a man who hunts for pleasure. She didn't have to marry a man who liked to kill animals.

It is heartbreaking that these poor women were desperate for so little. Shameful that people who knew them had not helped them! The woman needing a gurney... Just tears out your hesrt - and worse, so long ago, there is nothing that could be done, now, to fix it. I knew a very old women who lived on a rural property in Western Australia, that had a drunken husband who used to beat her up, who thankfully, died when she was still relatively young, but with children to look after - no social security - and to my horror, she said the neighbouring farmers - not all, I hope, and tradesmen, would come around wanting s ex - and pretending to offer to help and stealing stuff from her. Just heartbreaking. And makes me SO angry

I would be that one in which every girl would turn their light right after I came out! I could never put myself under the lights for everyone to effective say "Not this guy!"

The person that uploaded this didn't make it, this is a TV documentary episode that aired on Channel 5 in the UK.

imagine actually thinking this is made by a youtuber LOL

"it's shameful how they put those poor women on to tell everyone how sad their lives were and how desperate they were to win" Oh no, how dare the TV show try and help someone who's struggling! How awful! Let me guess, you're the type of person why tried to cancel Mr Beast?

@@Death-999 you missed the point ...

@@dawnieb.7394 Nah, you did...............

There was an incident that I'm surprised wasn't mentioned. Given what's my line aired live, it's surprising how rarely things went wrong. During a mystery guest segment with Melinda Mercouri, some random guy ran up on stage and interrupted proceedings, Host John Daly had to ask producer Gil Fates to get the "relieving unit" (as he called it) and called for the code to mute the microphones, Gil & announcer Johnny Olsen ran on and escorted the man off before turning him over to security. The man was trying to get in a free plug for his dating service. There was another "intruder" case where some guy ran on stage after Milton Berle's mystery guest segment, he shook Milton's hand giggled and said "I finally made it on mother's day" before taking off again. John looked confused, Milton joked that it was his agent. According to Gil Fates he was arrested outside the studio and spent the rest of his life in an insane asylum. As far as that mystery guest game went For the entire run the secret "emergency plan" if a guest didn't make it in or whatever was for John Daly himself to be the mystery guest. They never had to enact it. For fun on the final show John was the mystery guest. He revealed that he was the backup plan ever since the series began and although they never needed to do it they had several "close calls" including one guest who arrived 1 minute before they had to go on.

@@marcpower4167 I think the mystery guest who arrived one minute before their appearance was Judy Garland.

One of my teachers was on What's My Line around 1970 (give or take a year), when Wally Bruner was host. His "line" was his side job as a square dance caller. I'd love to see it again, but the Bruner episodes rarely get rerun.

on of my teachers was on the Krypton Factor. @@bobbuethe1477

@@bobbuethe1477 Do you know who would have been on the panel on that episode. It's likely Arlene Francis would have, considering she was a regular on both the CBS primetime and syndicated runs of the show.

It wasn't the correct answer!

@@pearlhartney9I they’re talking about the time American contestants said post it notes were sold before Walkmans and lost the money despite that being true, with the show saying post it notes didn’t count because they were originally sold under a different name, which had nothing to do with what the question was asking.

@@Sparx632 yeah that one

"U-pine!!" LOL Classic!

The best one was when her sister bombs, and her first answer was "Penis" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and Steve looked like he was going to die. He is my all time favorite host of Family Feud. So funny.

There are too many examples of hilarious Steve Harvey responses to stupid answers to include them here. They gave a good respresentative sample of Steve's awesome sense of humor. I'm glad they spent the time coming up with so many different game show fails.

theres infinite of them and its not really that rare of a blunder, this was a solid 15 minutes of blunder

That segment was shocking. Those poor women having to spill their guts as to how much they needed something like a hospital bed for their sick son was gut-wrenching. And them to subject them to people voting on them was shameful! Queen for a Day? How about "Poor unselfish souls wanting bare necessities". Omg. Makes you sad.

they needed to make money off it. people dont give you money to help people in meaningful ways people make money by exploiting the poor for our entertainment. pretty sure there was a Korean Netflix series about it what was it called? octopus challenge? anyway still to this day people like Mr Beast exploit poor people by pretending to help poor people. his whole channel is "lets all make money off of peoples misery" at the end of the day donating a whole shop to s food bank is actually more damaging than good, charities need consistency not one off masses of money. he also basically copies squid game just without the death. its no less exploitative

that's what you get in a country without social security.....just saying...

Hello? Everybody since the 70's wants their theory back.

she would have had to agree to a second date outside of the premise of the show for that. the first date is done with chaperones because if anything did happen there would be a lawsuit

@@ThePurpleCheesecakeZebra right but still glad she said no

Agreed. He was cute and looked fun.

@@morticiaheisenberg9679 He's not my type but I think he's more appealing than most they've had on the show! I hope that didn't knock his confidence, they were clearly just too basic for him 🤷

Hes a total catch!! Those girls were all just basic bitches

I never understood why they feel the need to have some annoying talking head describing what we've just seen.

UTG

@@veritas4364why you watching this then lol

@@robynlee4264 I think a narrator voice is more than enough. The only talking heads we need are those of the people related to the incident, not some rent-a-comedian or some Z-list celebrity who didn't even know about it until the production team showed them the clip.

Je left his huge estate to animal and military charities

Wow completely forgot he passed 😳

What about the episode where the guy slips up and falls on a toilet brush in supermarket sweep

RIP to a nazi supporter lmfao

Such a lovely guy, gone too soon 😢

@@80sKittyIf he lived until 2021 he would've joined his mate Donald Trump in trying to overthrow the government in a fascist plot lmfao. Gone too soon is usually reserved for people who actually bring good into this world instead of helping to install fascist regimes.

The thing is in the US its 40% tax, no matter what it is (Might be even higher now). So alot of people can't afford the items so they either sell it, or take a cash incentive instead.

It only went off the air about 3 year ago.

​@@Hellwyckseriously?! There was nothing wrong with that guy. But i can not imagine the line of tiktok mutants that would be on there now. Yikes.

The embarrassment I'd suffer if every woman shut their light off when I came out would be total devastation.

@@morticiaheisenberg9679 tiktok tends to show you people who fit your own demographic so you must be a mutant yourself

That blond hair didn’t suit him

And you seen several tv shows from all around the world? Or are just compering to your local tv & murican tv?

@@ingridakerblom7577 I’ve seen the most popular ones. My local first which is middle eastern. Also watch numerous American and Canadian shows. Also watch Aussie and news land shows. Basically any tv shows which language they speak is English or Arabic because others I don’t know. I’ve seen some Brazilian and Argentine shows with subtitles. As well as South African. So yea I seen a lot. British are the most ballsy and outrageous shows which is what I like. Also the comedy shows in British tv are the best also. In my opinion of course because people have different taste when it comes to comedy and entertainment in general.

It happened in one of our German TV shows, where people can take bets. A young guy suffered from two fractured cervical vertebrae and is in the wheelchair since then.

Elvi

fungus/fungae elvis/ elvae....😂

To be fair the boyfriend was just as nuts for going along with it lol. I'd be all, listen to the fucking question, obviously it's not that!

That's a typical case of idea fixation, she heard "won an award" and she thought of an Oscar, so the movie title came to her mind as the answer... I've seen that happen a lot with board games with my family: an idea gets stuck and they can"t process the right answer.

@@shamsqasr6173 Yeah. Has to do with the way we parse text or instructions too. I saw a TikTok of a mom trying to hand a pan to her son, and she kept saying "the bottoms hot" so he repeatedly went to lift it from the bottom, rather than the side handles that weren't hot. If she'd have said use the handles, that's most likely what he would have done, but she made the bottom the focus and as he wasn't really paying attention, that's what he went for. Similarly with telling kids not to do something, they hear and process the something, rather than the not. So it's better to say "do something else", rather than "don't do that something", then there's no room for misinterpretation. I think some quiz shows word things in a certain way in order to promote focus or fixation on the initial part of the question, and hide the key part in the last few words. Regular quizzers get used to specifically paying attention to the wording and phrasing. Plus nerves and anxiety can empty your brain in seconds lol. I feel sorry for her, but the point of having two people is to act as a counterbalance in cases where one person's mind goes to the wrong place, and the boyfriend was just a lump of wood. Zero input. So I kinda blame him more, he doesn't even need to know anything about Justin Timberlake to help out, and prevent the catastrophe. But he just doesn't bother at all. That's the craziest bit to me. Trust and believe in your partner for sure, but verify with common sense!

Yeah, even as a guy, I was thinking what girl in their right mind would not choose paul as a boyfriend! Something definitely doesn't add up here.

the epitome of "I'm not angry at you, I'm just very disappointed", except by your absolute favourite Nan, in front of the entire nation.

@@manilkasheran2934 A) She was a journalist, that was the whole problem B) She already had a fiance

I tend to think the show's organisers, ie; those who should've taken responsibility to check people out, may have "played" everyone for the sake of sensationalism/controversy.

@@747fa Cosmopolitan is a magazine for snobs obsessed with wealth and vanity

You also think of the women begging for medical devices for their sick kids as fun..

I can imagine it now, "Like zoinks Scoob!!! How many questions can you answer???"

Agreed, was such a shame for her. Watched as if I was there answering in her place so could empathise. Them tweets about her were so harsh, the poor lassie was only 19 and she obviously felt embarrassed enough after it, without the need for twitter to pile on😢 In the end she contributed on the final round and I'm glad she took some money home.

​@@gram.I totally agree. I think the nerves of being in front of a camera and studio got to her. Then I think the chat with Bradley got her in her head and in all honesty for someone her age, her questions were tough!

Yeah, I think people far too easily forget that being on TV, on a show that will air to millions of people, in front of a studio audience, competing for cash prizes worth thousands, adds so many extra layers of pressure that you just don't find at the £50 Thursday night pub quiz down the King's Head.

Totally agree, this happened to me in a job interview.

the worst part is you usually get interviewed by researchers who ask you all the personal questions like "what do you do" and will say "oh you speak french can you say these phrases" because they want to make sure that A you can indeed answer these questions and B you dont say something unairable in response or something too personal.then they tell the host to ask these questions

Yeah, the talking heads are always fking annoying. Cut out all the Z-lister comedians and people who aren't even part of the shows they're talking about and this is ~1 hour long.

Hunger Games was exactly my thought

it depends on the gameshow, some of them theyre genuinly clever people being asked difficult questions under pressure (millionaire and masterminds literally base their shows format off interogation techniques and techniques intentioanlly used to raise the heart beat) some are personalities on a show to entertain the family after dinner with easy questions that make everyone say "i could do that". while also producing funny mom ents where someone messes up. ive never seena 2 hour show where comedians, presenters and other personalities talk about game show wins

I smoked my leg off 💀

i love how she looks more youthful in 2017 than she did in the 80s lol , hair styles were terrible back then

I always wondered if it was something like that, because the 3rd question it is such a good answer, it would be #1 if it was the US instead of UK. So the odds of him saying a totally random thing that turns out to be right later was always so odd.

I heard what happened was the sound proof booth malfunctioned, he heard his partner say chicken so the answer turkey was stuck in his head. I would think if a production member said that, that's cheating and the uk equivalent of the FCC would shut them down.

​@@marcpower4167yeah I also have read the same thing as you. I think the OP maybe trying to make the story bigger than it was.

It still doesn't make sense. He gets asked the questions so it's still obvious which one was the chicken/ turkey one .

"According to UK Game Shows and the documentary "Our Survey Said", the story goes that Bob Johnson overheard "chicken" as the answer to the third question, and he got it into his head that if "chicken" had worked, then surely "turkey" must be one of the answers as well! Give him his due, though: "turkey" and "chicken" actually were two good answers to the same question. The only problem was that he failed to spot which question it was, or more to the point, wasn't". (REF: The Brief Story Of The Most Famous Answers In 'Family Feud' History | Digg)

its all reality tv. it all exploits people who either want fame or money who often come from disadvantaged backgrounds.

Oh wow, thanks for the information

Thanks for sharing the insight. Best wishes to you

this show would be just right for PIERS MORGAN as being well a journalist amongst other WORST things 🤣🤣😂😂

It is heartbreaking that those who knew these women did not fix those tragically easy to fix problems. As ever, I do wonder if the woman winning got the big applause because young and blonde and pretty. Frankly, if you choose to marry a man who likes to kill animals for pleasure, you lose my empathy. The 1950's. You must have been awash with widows with children from WW2.

@@buffalosowljah373 Yeah, he's a host of a few shows at the moment? Apart from being a renowned accomplished journalist, what other 'worst things' is he? As in, what else are you accusing him of without giving any reason?

Too soon? He was nearly 70 !

Only 62

@@evanslater4551 suppose thats not that old

I always had the hots for him x

And the UK version was actually quite good! Nick Jackson,the original UK host, did voiceovers for other gameshows, Catchphrase being the one people would most remember him doing

@@markc8956 I've come across a couple of those episodes on RU-vid. Nick seemed to do a good job with hosting. I noticed that a lot of the puzzles used in it came from the US version that aired in the late 80s.

It's Mr. Microchips, not Mr. Fish and Chips. But I can see how you could have been mislead. I mean, an American watching might have thought he was a packet of crisps.

If you had a well rounded education or did well in quizzes, you would know its a rather gentle, sadly sweet, old fashioned book and film, about a public school teacher that teaches for his whole adult life, at a boys school. I knew nothing of the show - and although as I watched, I inferred it was a s exual joke, from the tittering, I did not associate it with se x. Just a boring idea for a show.

thats what i assumed but ive also watched the parody of it dave gorman plays where hes a potato

I remember calling him sweetcorn man as a kid

His estate went to animal and military charities

Thank you! I was wondering just that!

Did you bother watching the rest of the clip... 1 woman had snapped her Tibia... and finished an assault course.. Adrenaline is crazy

Couple of years ago I came off my board at the bottom of a hill at about 35mph, broke six ribs and broke my right arm in a couple of places. Jumped up after sliding twenty feet, picked up my shopping and my board with my broken arm, and walked home, about 15 minutes away. I pulled a muscle in my leg and that was a niggling pain on the way home, but that was as much as I really felt at the time. Even if you don't break ribs, compression of the rib cage never feels good, but it didn't feel any worse than a normal smackdown on concrete. About 4 hours later the ribs really began to hurt, and I still couldn't use my right hand properly. I didn't have any grip strength, and it was still painful, so I figured I'd cracked something somewhere. The ribs were bad by the next morning so I went to the hospital. I'd landed with my clenched fist between my ribs and the tarmac, so my ribs had suffered a lot more deflection than they normally would, consequently causing a lot of damage. And a few days later it ended up being a flail section, a depressed piece of ribcage pushed into the lung, but before I could get back to hospital I sneezed and it reset it thankfully. Though the pain of that was not masked by adrenaline, and is definitely in my top ten for moments involving pain. Must have clipped a nerve when the section went back into place because it felt like someone had grabbed my nipple with hot pliers for a second lol. But yeah anyway, you can get up and function fine for a short time if it's not a break that causes immediate structural failure. But when the adrenaline wears off it'll probably hurt a lot more than if you'd immediately rested it or sought medical attention. I've broken my wrists so many times I don't usually bother going to the hospital for that, same if I've just got a minor fracture, but it does take a little longer to heal like that. For me it's just practicality, I walk with a cane, so I can't have a cast on and still use a cane, so I just try and reduce the weight it has to bear and live with it. I'm in my late forties now and I don't heal as fast as I used to. Adrenaline covers a massive amount of pain and trauma though, for a while at least. But in the end you have to pay the piper.

Then in the next clip he said he had broken his foot, not his 'leg in three places'

@@atg_ddr106 Not just adrenaline, but a lot of the time we don't realise just how badly we've actually injured ourselves until someone else takes a look at it.

Nick was a crap host. He had killed Catchphrase by the time Mark Curry took over from him.

I think when watching the show people don't always realise that the production company does profile their competitors so the farther away you go to the million you are more likely to get questions in fields you are not familiar with. So if you feel that the questions are easy and you could have won a million when watching the show those are not the questions that would probably be presented if you were on the show. The game show is quite tailored for every contestent.

That is not the case with the original UK version for sure. They have a set of questions that is set in advance. Two complete potential sets were loaded into a computer and then one of these two sets is sent to the host's screen (chosen at random) without the host knowing which are the correct answers, even the show runners can't know which questions will be asked of which contestant. This, I think, was a special security measure never before used on a UK quiz show, and it was because the prize was the largest ever prize so they were trying to be particularly careful to avoid any possibility of foul play. This extra level of scrutiny was in part how they caught the cheater Major Ingram and his accomplices. With a million quid on the line it would be a temptation for cheating and collusion. @@user-pz8sf8rb8i

Maybe the Mandela Effect should be renamed the Roy Walker Effect. Because, yes, I'm also sure I heard of his death on the news.

Unwritten means nobody told you them. It's just inferred by general understanding. Unwritten rules are in no way communicated and thus people do not always pick up on them.

​@@Thatguyujustmet "Unwritten" means, as you say, they're commonly understood (but doesn't mean "nobody told you them"). The key part I was addressing is that he said "the contestants are given [the rules]", which didn't happen in my case (even for the 'standard' rules, which I suspect _are_ actually written down).

@@thetoddlanders1992 "unwritten rules" colloquially means a rule you are expected to follow despite never hearing it. the unwritten rule of walking past someone with a camera is to wait for them to take the photo. no one ever says that outlud but we all follow it. its literally a way of saying common sense. you would be told not to swear as thats said to every guest on every tv show. i assume you went on countdown post 1992 as your username would suggest you where probably born then. you woud have to be 18 to go on and by 2010 the rules on what is considered rude would have changed and theyd be able to digitally edit letters if it spelled something really rude. by that point they also had plans for the spin off which was massively intended for an adult audience. theyd also probably decided that no children would actually be sat down paying any attention to a letters and numbers game. a rule that was true at the time wouldnt nesacarily be true now,

I went on in 2007. No rules, unwritten or otherwise, were given - whether about the game or about what to say/not say on camera.@@ThePurpleCheesecakeZebra

And of course Slut isn't a rude word, it is a slur, but isn't pornographic or profane?!

'YES'