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Don't worry. There will be that once in a lifetime moment where a bassist will finally have a their own solo where the guitars will quiet and the drums will either follow your rhythm or be quiet as well.
It’s this way with any instrument! Band mate handed me a tambourine during a recording sesh yesterday and I spent the whole 30 minutes playing notes I didn’t even know existed. I was slapping the shit outta that tamb, bro!
as a bassist i have to say, yes our role is to groove, our role is to serve the song and all that stuff, but still it is a bass guitar, we are allowed to solo, we are allowed to come forward in the mix and stray some times from our role...it's ok people, we can have fun too
Exactly. In some songs there's a lot which can be played on bass but other band members being too strict about the rules and stuff they only dictate the bassist to just play "root notes" which isn't fair tbh
Soul music has a lot of interesting examples of bass players fulfilling their role perfectly while still shredding. It comes down to the musician's taste in the end
@@RaffaeleSansone yep, vulfpeck and their bassist joe dart is a good exemple of the wonderfull stuff that can happen when you give more space to the bassist to express himself.( But bass solo without funky or a groovy rythm turn out boring pretty quickly for me...^^)
I'd like to take a second to remind guitarists (and some bassists too) that bass is not just a support instrument. Bass is the foundation and the driving force of an entire song, and that means (shocking enough for shred guitarists) that if you want a song to have more energy to it, the bass has to have that same energy. So many bands end up making their bassist stick to playing the root at 8th notes or something and while that works and it will absolutely be fine in a song, it takes away from the harmonic capabilities and even more importantly the rhythmic expression that a bass player has. The more you let the bass modulate around a rhythmic idea the more interesting your songs going to be. Of course there are spaces when you need to take it back a bit and keep a low and chill groove, but in metal especially now days, bass needs to be the ocean that the rest of the band rides atop of like a boat, not a concrete slab that the rest of the band sits atop of like a house.
@@isaiahfoulidis3363 Support doesn't mean boring and unnoticeable. And bass doesn't have to always be a support instrument, it's perfectly capable of assuming the role of lead when the context calls for it. What the OP is saying is that bass is versatile, and shouldn't be forced into just one role in just one playing style, as it often is.
Agree. A good bass player can make or break a band and most people have no idea. It’s like the ground under your feet that you take for granted. It’s one of those things when listening to a band that makes you say “this band sucks/ is great, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.” A good bass player and tight drummer makes people want to dance Generally guitar players don’t make the best bass players because they lack musical theory knowledge or can’t groove. With that said there are guitars than can play bass great and bass players who can play guitar great as well.
Lovely bass line! I think bass doesn't get that much praise in certain genres and it's only relegated to a "support role". Give it its own spectrum and chance to breathe, people!
The problem is that a bass melody like this will almost always rush or drag. The bass holds the rest of the instruments in time together. So, if you start going off like this then whole rest of the band will be struggling to feel out the the beat. The reason it wasn't too atrocious here was because he was playing along to a prerecorded track.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no pro, but isn't that the reason why everyone practices and plays with a metronome? Shouldn't the drummer keep the tempo, generally speaking?
@@HasserWeissfang bass and drums work in conjunction with eachother. Bass ties together the rhythmic pulsation of the drums with chordal and melodic instruments. That's why it's unlikely you'd ever hear a guitar drum duet, they're just a bit too disparate. If you tightly practice a piece with a complex melodic bassline things can work. But, especially in a jam type situation it's just bad form.
@@st_orlie it depends on the music one makes and the imagination of the musicians. Those are conventional "rules" and I have given good use to high registers and chords on bass, especially in a trio situation where there is lots of space to fill.
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen someone write a comment along the lines of "they deserve an Oscar" and have it actually be about the acting that the person is doing. Tiktok kids have started using 'Oscar' as a placeholder for any kind of award and it spread like wildfire. "Great dancing, you deserve an Oscar!" "Great chocolate sculpting, you deserve an Oscar!" Kinda driving me insane.
I’m a guitarist and never played bass before so I really couldn’t relate. I only play guitar, but most people think I’ve never played guitar before either.
The issue with a lot of bass solos is that the song loses a very important element when the bass starts to play higher notes in a rhythm that doesn't support the main groove. The song loses low end and groove. And that's why bass solos aren't very common. They have their place, but you can't approach it similarly as a guitar solo.
Hahahaha. Seen this so much with singing teachers on yt. They have amazing technique, they know everything, but somehow their original songs are horrible. Horrible songs with great singing, LOL
@@thefirst9500 Yeah. It happens so much. I think there's a number of things at work. Being good at an instrument really just takes time and effort. You 'punch the clock' and put in the time and you'll "get guid". Writing great songs however, isn't just about putting in the time, though I'm certain that you will improve as a songwriter the more songs you write. Also, I've heard the idea that the more advanced you are, the smaller your audience will be, because your music is just beyond most people. SamuraiGuitarist once said something really funny about this, and the different levels of guitar. He said that when you reach the Master Level that "congratulations, you've reached a level, where the only people interested in your music are Music Teachers and a handfull of Jazz Students". I don't particularly ascribe to this idea though, as my two favourite bands of all time are Radiohead and King Crimson, which are two bands that these "Music Theory Experts" rave about, but maybe there's something in it still, I don't know. Jacob Collier to me, mostly sounds like dog-shit, but I don't deny the guy is a spectacular instrumentalist and music theory genius. And, while Rudy is an excellent guitarist to my ears, his songs are just really fucking boring, noodly and uninteresting. (I'm not the type to come on someone's page and say they're shit, but Rudy literally roasts other musicians, so he leaves himself open to harsh criticism).
@@childofthesun32 I guess it depends on the style. But yeah, if you become extremely good at anything, the number of people who could actually appreciate what you do becomes very small. That's why there is a lot of value in making something accessible. Simplicity isn't easy, and making something super cerebral doesn't mean that it's very good. Touching other people's hearts with what you do is the real talent. I don't really know youtube guitarists, but the couple of singing teachers I watched made very bland music. This is just something else that shows us that there is more to art than pure technique. Technique should always be in service of the soul of the music. RU-vid people are extremely savvy at their instrument, but it often feels like some kind of trained monkey. Inspiration, that it factor, comes from who we are as people just as much as the musical technique we refine. Technique will only carry you so far, but you have to challenge yourself to express something true.
@@EvilBlakey rhythm, groove and percussion. Guidance for the rest of the band to stay in time along with the drummer. They also provide depth and the harmony to the composition. In a band scenario ofcourse where you are playing pop structure simple songs. Not every band is like that, there are outliers but the exceptions are not the rule.
As a guitarist who has recently started playing around with bass, this is so true … I can’t help myself. I have to stop myself from overplaying on bass.
Yeah same here, I enjoy the whole thing he plays here. Almost makes me want a version of the video where the guitarist doesn’t intervene and we get to hear how far the bassist keeps going
Honestly ! the playing was so good that I never realised that the bassist went for a solo - it sounded like a proper consequence of the music. Kudos .Cheers Rudy!
Sometimes I actually prefer to take the bass and stick to its expected limitations so I can jam without having to fight. I lock in with the kick and put some stuff here and there to keep it interesting. I let the guitarists have their moment while I'm completely free to bring a sick groove
I’ve found that my bassist and i approach put instruments completely differently and it’s really interesting to watch them play guitar. The way we approach scales and intervals is different as are the ways we construct motifs.
As a bass player who converted from guitar to bass I strongly recommend you tape all your fingers together with duct tape. If you have any tape left over try some on your mouth.
So true Ive always played guitar. My nephew got a bass for Christmas. It was neat to try and hash out and play all the legendary bass lines Ive heard over the years. Respect the bass yall
This is very terrific. From the fingering with only index and ring in the solo, to the index finger only in the bassliney intro, to the octaves only bassline, to the only one finger in the right hand.. This is so so so so great hahahahahahaha
man this is so true lmao I'm a guitarist and had to play as a bassist for a band one time and I was soloing like crazy hahaha at least the crowd enjoyed and some of them came to compliment my playing in the end of the show, they were quite shocked when I said I was not actually a bassist
so true. ive seen this a million times. although i started on bass and switched to guitar… is there a stereotypical play style for bassists that switch to guitar? if so i’d be curious to see rudy’s take on it.
I'll buy my first bass soon. I've never liked the "slap" and "funky" sound of basses. But I do like their deep "dark" notes. So I'll finger pick my bass just like I use to do on my guitar. Thank you for demonstrating how it could sound. Wonderful playing =)
