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When Humans Discovered Time with Ben Bacon and Dr. Tony Freeth 

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For over 150 years, researchers have been perplexed by the purpose and meaning behind the mysterious non-figurative signs found in over 400 caves, including renowned locations like Lascaux, Chauvet, and Altamira. However, utilizing a comprehensive database of images spanning the European Upper Palaeolithic, our guests present a groundbreaking theory on how three commonly occurring signs were actually units of communication.
In this captivating discussion, we speak to Dr. Tony Freeth and Ben Bacon as they explain hrough extensive analysis, we propose that when these signs appear in close proximity to animal depictions, they serve as numerical representations of months. In fact, they form integral components of a local phenological and meteorological calendar.
Dr Tony Freeth is a founding member of the Antikythera Mechanism Research Project and an Honorary Senior Research Associate at University College, London. He holds degrees in Mathematics from Cambridge University (UK) and Bristol University (UK). His work on the Antikythera Mechanism has been published in Nature (Freeth et al, Nature 2006 and Freeth et al, Nature 2008) as well as other prominent journals.
Ben Bacon, an amateur archaeologist and furniture conservator in London, meticulously examined ancient markings on cave paintings dating back 20,000 years, finding compelling evidence that they could be associated with a language. Teaming up with two professors from Durham University and one from University College London, they embarked on a collaborative effort to decipher the significance of these enigmatic symbols.
An Upper Palaeolithic Proto-writing System and Phenological Calendar
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@kevinsayes
@kevinsayes Год назад
I have become more and more interested lately with ancient humanity; perfect video!! Not sure how to express it, but I find these ancient humans and cave paintings, etc, very spooky in a way. Something about them being human yet living in such a different world, and us having really no true grasp on world events prior to ~7000 years ago. Thanks JMG!
@siamakkhodadoust6393
@siamakkhodadoust6393 Год назад
You are right, although we may be talking about a very small proportion of those prehistoric humans and probably we won't be able generalise the idea for all the human species. I guess the same hypotheses still apply.
@jackesioto
@jackesioto Год назад
Slowly but surely, we are learning what prehistoric people were like and have unearthed some surprises along the way. For example, we have found possible evidence of a civilization in Turkey that predated ancient Sumeria. This possible civilization dates as far back as 11,000 BCE!
@abstractacus1598
@abstractacus1598 Год назад
When I studied archaeology I went to southern France and visited a number of caves. Of course the animal depictions were incredible but I was struck by just how many abstract designs there were. Some of these 'symbols' were repeated in other caves, which I interpreted as showing there must have been at least a regional alignment with such images. I wrote up a report at the time 2005 and wanted to study cave art, especially the abstractions, but unfortunately I had more pressing things to concentrate on and so never continued, though I still try to keep up with the subject. My guess at the time was that some of these designs were signifiers of tribal or other identity but there was something deeper going on I felt too.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 Год назад
I have often been to les Eyzies de Tayac and visited most of the local sites and randonées. Immersion.
@abstractacus1598
@abstractacus1598 Год назад
@@christopherellis2663 I envy you, it's one of my best memories, sadly never to be repeated unfortunately.
@galaxia4709
@galaxia4709 Год назад
They _are_ symbols
@FUBBA
@FUBBA Год назад
Nice birthday present to me, JMG :)
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Год назад
Happy birthday!
@arthurdowney2846
@arthurdowney2846 Год назад
Could the need to keep track of human menstrual cycles have contributed to the development of an early lunar calendar system? I imagine women might have used the moon as a reference for tracking their cycles, the duration of pregnancies, and the age of their infants.
@andrewerickson6690
@andrewerickson6690 Год назад
Interesting question
@BriarLeaf00
@BriarLeaf00 Год назад
That's a genuinely interesting question. Wonder who would be best equipped to answer. Cultural anthropologist?
@JROD082384
@JROD082384 Год назад
Seems highly implausible, but anything’s possible, I suppose.
@gekkobear1650
@gekkobear1650 Год назад
Probably looking at the moon instead of their phone every night was enough bro.
@doncarlodivargas5497
@doncarlodivargas5497 Год назад
Why should people living some 40.000 years ago keep track of how many months old their children was? I guess about 50% of the children died also, must have been a difficult task, anyhow, here where I live, some 1.000 years ago, people only counted the winters they had survived
@tuomasronnberg5244
@tuomasronnberg5244 Год назад
This was a great episode, thank you for making it! It was incredibly refreshing for once to listen to people who are interested in the science honestly, and aren't trying to shill you something.
@paulmadden5986
@paulmadden5986 Год назад
EVENT HORIZON Created by John Michael Godier, Ross Campbell and Eryn Knight...the epitome, nothing else comes close. Thank you. ❤
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Год назад
We're so happy to have you with us in our little corner of the internet.
@GetIntoItDuhh
@GetIntoItDuhh Год назад
@@EventHorizonShow just wanna say im glad that at least this episode isn't sponsored by masterworks (its a scam, bro)
@l.siqueira8742
@l.siqueira8742 Год назад
I remember reading in a Karen Armstrong's book that cave paintings like these were not just for a practical use, but probably for a symbolical one for two reasons. First, they represented fauna that wasn't common near the places they were made. Also, these figures were painted in places that were pretty unacessible, what allows us to ponder that to paint was something very important, maybe sacred to our ancestors. If they were painting just for "practical purposes", why not represent things that were more common to they and in places of more easy circulation? They putted a lot of effort in it. Thanks John. I love this subject! Can you imagine finding cave paintings in another planet?
@brick6347
@brick6347 Год назад
I'm lucky enough to have visited a few of the caves in France that are closed to the public (I studied archaeology); it was the aurochs that moved me. I used to live in Grodzisk Mazowieckie, just a few kilometres from Jaktorów where the last Auroch died in 1627. To see herds of them beautifully painted, then a sad mossy old stone marking their demise is pretty moving. You read about mass extinctions in books, but that really brought it home. Mammoths, woolly rhinos etc. are fairly abstract, I _know_ my ancestors must've seen them and hunted them, but it's foggy. It's like saying one of my ancestors was an ape in Africa a million years. I know this is true, but it's intangible. Be to know the exact date aurochs vanished and at the same time also be able to directly trace my lineage to before that... that is something else. There are people alive now whose grandparents were born in the 1700s, possibly just 4 or 5 generations removed.
@baarbacoa
@baarbacoa Год назад
Being able to enter one of these caves is a dream of mine. You must be excited that there are efforts to resurrect the Aurochs?
@brick6347
@brick6347 Год назад
​@@baarbacoa I am actually not that excited by resurrecting species. From what I've seen they've bred a cow that superficially resembles an auroch, but is still basically a cow. Granted cows were domesticated from aurochs, so they share most of the DNA... but is it an auroch? If I breed dogs to look like wolves, are they wolves? I'd much rather the money was spent protecting extant species and their habitats, for example the European bison which very nearly suffered the same fate (it was extinct in the wild by 1920s, but there were a few captive animals left and thankfully they've been reintroduced to much of Europe). It's sad that we can't undo the past, but we can't. But we can avoid making the same mistakes again.
@baarbacoa
@baarbacoa Год назад
@@brick6347 I think I read that scientists have samples of actual Aurochs genetic material. And they are actually crossbreeding varieties of cattle that carry relatively large amounts of Aurochs DNA. And ultimately they hope to breed cattle that are very close to Aurochs genetically. I suspect though that by the time that they succeed, they will have created actual Aurochs from the DNA they have.
@alanmacdonald88
@alanmacdonald88 Год назад
I also suspect that these inscriptions are learning devices for the children in the same way a school classroom displays the alphabet and numbers on the wall today. It would be of vital importance for parents to teach this as basic fundamental knowledge to their kids in a world where death was common and old age was rare.
@jamielondon6436
@jamielondon6436 Год назад
Technically, you're not descended from an ape, but rather you and the ape share a common (primate) ancestor. :-)
@jamielondon6436
@jamielondon6436 Год назад
John has many talents, but one area where he really excels (and that might be a team effort, of course) is just asking extremely insightful questions.
@jackesioto
@jackesioto Год назад
Some cave paintings may have been the first ''calendars''' on Earth! Knowing the seasons wasn't just vital for farming, it was also helpful when hunting. The earliest humans would have certainly had some inklings of time, they would have noticed the day-night cycle, that the weather changed drastically throughout the year, that the Moon's phases happen in a cycle, migration patterns of the animals they hunted, and certain other things.
@kefkamadman
@kefkamadman Год назад
What a fascinating conversation. So much so, I actually stopped what I was doing and gave this my full attention for the entire thing. Would love to hear another conversation with you and these guys, John. Very thought provoking this time!
@JohnMichaelGodier
@JohnMichaelGodier Год назад
There's a whole other episode with just Tony that will be out soon. And we'll invite them back as any new developments with this work come out.
@vermasean
@vermasean Год назад
Absolutely love these! Thanks Anna, JMG & the EH Team!
@baarbacoa
@baarbacoa Год назад
A few years back I met a guy who studied native American pictographs and petroglyphs. He believed they contained a lot of standard encoded messages, as well.
@CT-uv8os
@CT-uv8os Год назад
Speaking as a person with Native American ancestory- yes they do.
@OrgusDin
@OrgusDin Год назад
I like how the Y symbol being an image representing implied and easily understood symbolic/metaphorical meaning of pregnancy like that basically makes it a 40000 year old image meme.
@christianwilliams5016
@christianwilliams5016 Год назад
Great program. Much easier to listen with out background noise. Thanks so much.
@reviewreview6298
@reviewreview6298 Год назад
Thanks JMG, Event Horizon keeps getting better. This was a fascinating episode. I'd read reports about this research, but it's so great to hear directly from the researchers.
@zrebbesh
@zrebbesh Год назад
Re: handprints in caves, I looked at it and immediately thought of the hand signs my brothers and I used to use when hunting deer. Gotta be super quiet or they'll spook. And then thought, if you have hand signs, how do you communicate to people who aren't here yet? You put your hand up to the wall and you make a sign with paint, where the people who aren't here yet can see it. The vocabulary's limited to whatever you use hand signs for, but hunting favors development of a sign vocabulary because hunters have to be quiet. And hunting seems to be the exact thing they were focused on communicating to people who weren't there yet. It's my opinion that you are probably looking at the earliest beginnings of the idea of writing.
@andrewtovey7633
@andrewtovey7633 Год назад
A fascinating episode, and I love that you’re branching out into such a diversity of topics lately. One thought that comes to mind as an Australian though. To suggest that these examples of European rock art are ‘the beginning of recorded history’ is perhaps a somewhat Eurocentric perspective. They are roughly 15-20k years old. But what about Australian Aboriginal rock art? I suspect that no one has studied it in the way that Ben and his colleagues have, but perhaps there might be evidence of signs there too. The thing here is that despite evidence of Aboriginal culture in Arnhem Land going back over 50,000 years, our oldest rock art is 17,500, which is the same ballpark as the European art. However, there is a major difference between these two continents. Australia has been climatically stable for that entire past 50,000 and Aboriginal culture has been extremely steady state for that whole time. So if there was evidence of signs here then it’s reasonable to extrapolate them right back - which would significantly change that Eurocentric perspective. Whereas the European climate fluctuated significantly with the ice age and human culture there was very unstable and bottle necked a couple of times. So it’s much harder to extrapolate anything further back. Just food for thought anyway
@Zebred2001
@Zebred2001 Год назад
It seems to me that the next step is to do a thorough survey of anthropological data on hunter-gatherer groups that have survived down to our own day and studies. Surely somewhere they would have practices analogous to those proposed here.
@jackesioto
@jackesioto Год назад
Indeed, there could be subtle anatomical differences between members of today's sedentary, centralized societies and the hunter-gatherer tribal societies that remain.
@SoApost
@SoApost Год назад
If these guests are right that the paintings are a hunting calendar, then the analogue would be an existing hunting group on a country size hunting area with more than one staple large game they hunt and use a system of caves or rock faces as seasonal base camps for hunts. The known existing areas those living analogues could exist would be Tanzania/Kenya and Australia.
@Eckendenker
@Eckendenker Год назад
Native North Americans have a very obvious analogue. They weren't strict hunter gatherers for the last thousand of years but still offer a glimpse of what that would have looked like. They simply link moon phases to changes in their environment. The full moon where the river is frozen, the full moon where the frogs croak, the full moon where squash are ripe, the full moon where the beavers start hibernating... Almost makes you feel lucky, that earth has a moon, to make such a neat and handy calender for humanity.
@Zebred2001
@Zebred2001 Год назад
I guess I needed to be clearer. Is there any anthropological information of hunter-gatherer groups down to our own day that make marks like this specifically for the recording of months or animal kills etc.
@virginiahansen320
@virginiahansen320 Год назад
Totally misread this as "When humans discovered bacon time" Now I want bacon. And a new watch.
@terrysullivan1992
@terrysullivan1992 Год назад
Always leaves you with a greater understanding and yet a greater mystery. Always tasty food for thought.
@tombirol1693
@tombirol1693 Год назад
When the entire system of writing is understood, will that push the idea of "pre-history" back in time? I hope I'm not being too confident saying "when" rather than "if".
@txrwauy
@txrwauy Год назад
I really enjoyed this episode. It shows that humans have always sought a way to determine patterns and communicate that information to others. We are the inheritors of a tradition that started with making fire and stone tools to making AI, mapping the human genome, cracking the atom and exploring our solar system. I hope that further studies show us more about how our ancient ancestors understood and communicated about their world. Too me, putting a hand image on a wall says "I am here" just like the golden records on the Voyager probes or the plaques on the Pioneer 11 and 12.
@peterplotts1238
@peterplotts1238 Год назад
No, they're over 40,000 years old.
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 Год назад
41:50 Thirty-three thousand years encompasses more than an entire Milankovich cycle (26,000 years for the earth's axis to complete its cycle of progression).
@nickperson6745
@nickperson6745 Год назад
this show is one of my favorite things about the universe in which we liiiiiiiiiiive
@chadcrauswell2790
@chadcrauswell2790 Год назад
It might be worth exploring the idea that some of the lines dots and y's refer to a direction and distance from the cave as well as time of month/year and numbers in the herd or group.
@EpoxyAndButylTape
@EpoxyAndButylTape Год назад
By far my favorite episode of Event Horizon.
@madeovstarstuff
@madeovstarstuff Год назад
Always a pleasure putting my feet up and enjoying your discussions mate. Thanks for your and your guests' time in producing these beauties
@AngusRockford
@AngusRockford Год назад
Fantastic episode! Thanks to all of you!
@AdrianCollazo78
@AdrianCollazo78 9 месяцев назад
Impressive advance on the understanding of our nature. I can't wait to know what more they will show us. It is shocking the great modesty of Ben Bacon. We need more of these people on this world. Thanks for your work!
@lisasteel6817
@lisasteel6817 Год назад
That was the most fascinating episode I’ve ever watched, I’d love to learn more.
@VYBEKAT
@VYBEKAT Год назад
Wow... Awesome conversation.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Год назад
Thanks for listening
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 Год назад
Are there any that symbolize water sources? Its often the major landmark and information guide for us.
@Thegoldmine1
@Thegoldmine1 Год назад
I've already watched this five times it's beautiful
@seanmcmaster4856
@seanmcmaster4856 Год назад
We have the same hardware that they had. To think that they didn't have inklings of science and technology seems silly to me. Fantastic guests I hope their research and ideas catch on in academia.
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 Год назад
Its an assumption scientists shouldnt make. Especially considering how often we get all columbus about things.
@ravenmad9225
@ravenmad9225 Год назад
You seem to have misunderstood most of human history and science history.
@SoApost
@SoApost Год назад
200k-500k years of history for humans with modern sized brains is still lost to us. Who knows what secrets the submerged continental shelves hold that might one day shock us about our past feats.
@tuomasronnberg5244
@tuomasronnberg5244 Год назад
True! In many ways our ancestors were just as knowledgeable as us, it's just that they focused on more practical matters. They lived through a much harsher period of time with only a fraction of our resources, yet they managed to thrive and spread across the world. They were, in their world, the equivalent of space travelers.
@WaxPaper
@WaxPaper 10 месяцев назад
I wonder if the complexity of language plays a role in that. If the Sapir Whorf hypothesis is correct, that might mean that intellectual advancement hinged on linguistic maturity. I mean, some things will transcend that; people were probably curious and had sparks of insight 200,000 years ago. But I think if that hypothesis is right, the intellectual divide between us and the first anatomically-identical humans might be greater than we'd imagine. It might have been a very different existence, even existentially.
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 8 месяцев назад
After reading several comments, I know exactly how well the educational system is doing instructing.
@justinmeader
@justinmeader Год назад
Thanks for having Tom Waits on!
@DrumToTheBassWoop
@DrumToTheBassWoop 10 месяцев назад
I use to listen to Graham Hancock, but as I got older and learned more about ancient history, I tend to swing to people like these. History tends to be more mundane, but more exciting, than "muh lost ancient tech people"
@francisdaunt
@francisdaunt Год назад
Noticed that nobody mentioned marks on the animals could be counting how many animals an individual or tibe have killed in a season. It seems a natural human trait,the need to keep score.
@amraverageproduction5379
@amraverageproduction5379 Год назад
I wish we could go back in time, I love that screenshot you used of homo sapiens around a fire in a cave. Simple and perfect.
@Birdracer22
@Birdracer22 Год назад
Why are you romaticising? Lice, gut worms, heat, cold, periods of famine, the neiboring clan that comes to raid you, that cut on your foot that you manage to stop bleeding but still kills you three weeks later with infection, your sick baby that you can do nothing for, the day your fire went out. NO THANKS!
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 Год назад
24:00 Ooh! The one on the bottom right says, "I love mammoth burgers!"
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 Год назад
33:33 It's interesting to me that even when we're looking at human creations and writings from ten, twenty, or forty thousand years ago, the old adage of, "Follow the money!" seems to be applicable.
@chrisconnor8086
@chrisconnor8086 Год назад
The lunar calendar discussion is one of the more interesting things i have heard in months
@marcrubendall6279
@marcrubendall6279 Год назад
reminds me of Origins of Cinema podcast on WriteBrainTV
@tonybuckley6413
@tonybuckley6413 Год назад
sounds like a good one..I’ll be tuning in after work
@Empdizz
@Empdizz Год назад
Incredibly interesting topic, thanks for the video.
@keithtinkler4073
@keithtinkler4073 Год назад
You may mention it - but do the same patterns show up in the Far east, and then leading to the Americas??? Likewise for the Americas visited from the east - especially for South America? and Australia.
@jamesmacaluso2066
@jamesmacaluso2066 Год назад
Really hope I'm wrong but it is probably just a log of how many of these animals they killed.
@whatever930
@whatever930 Год назад
There have been many who have suggested the artwork is more than just art and in fact a calendar of some sort. Robert sepehr is one
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter Год назад
The handprints that distinguish the sex of the person could be an early dating site: Single male looking for female, and so forth.
@brianpanther1967
@brianpanther1967 Год назад
I was hoping for a when humans discovered bacon.
@shawnparadise6504
@shawnparadise6504 Год назад
This was super interesting thanks!
@Vorador666
@Vorador666 Год назад
Amazing episode, that really is an amazing theory and it opens a whole different perspective.
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 Год назад
25:00 Block C is a sketch of the now-extinct two-penised horse, right? 😀 In all seriousness, though, this group of drawings looks to me like maybe they were trying to record the manner, or at least the corporeal location, of how they killed the particular animals. It looks like they're showing a bunch of arrows in the leg of one of the animals, and some slashes on others. But I'm not a cave painting expert.
@TheIgnoramus
@TheIgnoramus Год назад
Makes sense writing came from a sense of time. A record is inherently the past, and can describe the future.
@itsfonk
@itsfonk Год назад
Well done closing J 🤙 Such a fascinating topic
@HomeofdaBONE
@HomeofdaBONE Год назад
fascinating
@acanuck1679
@acanuck1679 Год назад
Is it possible that the animals depicted in the image at 22:37 were identifiable individuals, rather than generalized depictions of particular species? Following on that question, is it possible that the symbols you spoke of (the "Y") could be a way of indicating that individual A had just given birth (or would soon do so)?
@BloodyBobJr
@BloodyBobJr Год назад
I can imagine Dr. Tony Freeth sitting in a padded leather chair with a smoking jacket on, swirling a glass of brandy. Has a very distinguished voice
@pnf197
@pnf197 Год назад
I wonder if the handprints are a way of showing the advanced technology of self-representation? It maybe, that the handprints are the next generation of property titling -- this is mine, and we don't pee here for you to smell us, we are invisible. Just a crazy thought. Also, these paintings are so incredibly beautiful, delicate, with precise lines like Japanese calligraphy. Surely the artists used other mediums to practice or create their art before painting the cherished walls of their cathedral-caves. If they painted on walls, why not on stones?
@zlac
@zlac Год назад
I read (skimmed) the title like: "When humans discovered bacon for the first time" and my brain almost broke!
@mosaicmind88
@mosaicmind88 Год назад
"When Humans Discovered Time, Bacon, and Teeth."
@gullyclark7344
@gullyclark7344 Год назад
The knowledge of forever time by Damon T Berry shield be referenced to get another view of these paintings , because they are connected to celestial and architectural structures on the earth .
@AndrewBlucher
@AndrewBlucher Год назад
Ben is very impressive. I haven't heard him speak before.
@stricknine6130
@stricknine6130 Год назад
Interesting video! Thanks!
@erikjrn4080
@erikjrn4080 Год назад
"...there's a chess program called AlphaZero that uses AI principles plays chess much better than human beings and very exciting chess it's not boring chess..." The "exciting, not boring" part is the biggest breakthrough, as it relates to chess; as it relates to computer science, there's plenty more, no doubt. Asked about playing against chess engines, then World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen replied that "it's like playing against an idiot that wins every time". He didn't specify, but, based on when the comment was made, he was probably talking about Stockfish. Going from "idiot that wins every time" to "quite clever player that wins every time" makes a difference to its utility within chess. It may also be a reflection of a greater commonality between AlphaZero and human cognition; the exciting thing may be that we recognize our own cognition in that of AlphaZero.
@Thegoldmine1
@Thegoldmine1 Год назад
I love your work , you are an inspiration literally
@Thegoldmine1
@Thegoldmine1 Год назад
I really enjoyed the satisfied so much reminded me of the one you did in the past I think it was the same guy . I absolutely love paleolithic art it's a beautiful thing Have you ever considered doing a film about the art they've done because some of the art they've done is the oldest representations left play man anywhere ob earth. Especially up in the North West Kimberley region.
@michaelbartlett6864
@michaelbartlett6864 Год назад
I very much doubt that the lunar calendar was of much use to the cave dwellers other than as a sign for predicting tides for fishing. A solar calendar would be of much greater value in predicting animal movements and migration events, and it would be much easier to construct.
@mcboomsauce7922
@mcboomsauce7922 Год назад
Thanks!
@ulfhedtyrsson
@ulfhedtyrsson Год назад
Excellent show
@tomk537
@tomk537 Год назад
Fascinating
@amangogna68
@amangogna68 Год назад
Great video !
@aceundead4750
@aceundead4750 Год назад
JMG, Eryn Knight, and Ross Campbell all have a particular set of skills. Skills that make them a nightmare for hyper intelligent opossums. Idk if you are one, but if you are they will find you, and then you will build an extra dimensional shed on John's dime in his backyard.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Год назад
I'm not sure we're the nightmare for Schpröcket, or Schpröcket's the nightmare for us. In any case, I think it's certain that the opossum is the one calling the shots, but it's still on John's dime while Eryn and Ross just laugh...
@christianwilliams5016
@christianwilliams5016 Год назад
I love your work. Your extremely knowledgeable.
@rfjohns1
@rfjohns1 9 дней назад
It would be very interesting if the speakers would actually attempt to interpret the symbols as opposed to just identifying them as probably being symbols.
@bhbluebird
@bhbluebird Год назад
This was very interesting.
@samwisegamgee4659
@samwisegamgee4659 Год назад
Wow! Damn good episode! Mindblowing!
@ianclarke3627
@ianclarke3627 Год назад
they are very artistic
@ydnallah1541
@ydnallah1541 Год назад
Cave walls are the first hard drives…very hard in fact
@marianneb.7112
@marianneb.7112 3 месяца назад
Very very cool.
@russellst.martin4255
@russellst.martin4255 Год назад
The handprints are clearly turkeys for a Thanksgiving class project
@elbajodepitu
@elbajodepitu Год назад
Thiis is mind blowing.
@jlee1014
@jlee1014 Год назад
I wonder what the researchers think of the cup stones, if they are also considered markers of time instead of maps.
@kellyjohns6612
@kellyjohns6612 Год назад
Is it possible that the handprints are prehistoric selfies? 🖐️=🤳
@gekkobear1650
@gekkobear1650 Год назад
Hey everyone on this channel I highly recommend this book The Entropy Law and the Economic Process by Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen. It's an awesome book for nerds who want to get into the nitty-gritty of how the 2nd law plays out practically in the real world. Enjoy!
@padraiggluck2980
@padraiggluck2980 Год назад
Cave paintings: the earliest internet.
@kurga9790
@kurga9790 Год назад
Sure they retweeted that bull on the cavern wall and you can see the date of the post on it...
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 Год назад
Plants provide physic, as well as things like baskets, traps, nets, and string. Eating them wouldn't have been a normal thing 🤍water in cupped hands
@jonaszukas3249
@jonaszukas3249 Год назад
When Humans Discovered Time with Bacon and Teeth
@TheDavidPoole
@TheDavidPoole Год назад
Hey, when you find the guy who can identify plants from drawings of "different" quality, tell him that the Voynich Manuscript called and wants to make an appointment...
@williambrandondavis6897
@williambrandondavis6897 Год назад
I can imagine some one trying to do the same thing with modern graffiti or kids fridge art. Where do you think someone would get with that? I think they are making more of these drawings than there really is. Most drawings are simply drawings.
@slysynthetic
@slysynthetic Год назад
Looking forward to the episode! John, I sent a message via Patreon (where I just subscribed). Do you prefer the RU-vid subscription or Patreon? Thanks for all the great content!
@BLITZKRIEG1
@BLITZKRIEG1 Год назад
why don't you upload to Google podcasts??
@StaticBlaster
@StaticBlaster Год назад
I want a BLT sandwich right now. I saw Bacon.
@TheCakeIsNotaVlog
@TheCakeIsNotaVlog Год назад
Damnit! So do I! Good news is, I have all the ingredients. I’ll make two and eat one in your honour
@StaticBlaster
@StaticBlaster Год назад
@@TheCakeIsNotaVlog Thank you sir. I actually went to buy a bacon burrito from a local burrito chain. I'll buy a BLT next time.
@TheCakeIsNotaVlog
@TheCakeIsNotaVlog Год назад
Win \o/
@Itsonlyaname81
@Itsonlyaname81 Год назад
France is bacon, knowledge is power.
@TheCakeIsNotaVlog
@TheCakeIsNotaVlog Год назад
Nothing is true, everything is bacon
@Dart19p
@Dart19p Год назад
inventory of the amount of food and how many births (sidways y) with total deaths (parallel lines) as a set of guidelines nessary for peace of mind. knowing more deaths follow sparce or lower amounts of animal kills to motivate hunting groups quota for the overall health of certian groups. ??;
@senecaflint6853
@senecaflint6853 Год назад
The lack of anthropomorphic images on cave walls also lends credence to the theory presented here. If the drawings and dots reflect messages about the natural world and its patterns, then there’s really no need to draw people
@gekkobear1650
@gekkobear1650 Год назад
*humans. They drew plenty of people
@senecaflint6853
@senecaflint6853 Год назад
@@gekkobear1650 weirdly, humans didn’t really make a habit of drawing other humans in the Paleolithic. There’s a few examples in cave paintings, but they almost universally lack the quality and quantity of far more numerous animal drawings.
@gekkobear1650
@gekkobear1650 Год назад
@@senecaflint6853 yes. I'm making a totally different point about how humans in the paleolithic understood the world. Humans and people aren't synonyms turns out.
@view1st
@view1st Год назад
​@@senecaflint6853 What is the oldest depiction of a human being (other than as a simple stick figure or similar)?
@michaelharvey75
@michaelharvey75 Год назад
Was the reason they painted inside caves was so that their drawings / messages would last? . Painting anywhere else and the drawing / message would be weathered. . Not good for passing on information. .
@NinjaWarrior702
@NinjaWarrior702 Год назад
If someone wanted to give back would you rather them join the RU-vid channel or contribute to Patreon?
@giantclam1822
@giantclam1822 Год назад
Art Bell level.
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 Год назад
Amazing that people 20,000 years ago were more talented, skilled and better artists than people today claiming to be making "art".
@paulmurphy8549
@paulmurphy8549 Год назад
They took more psychedelics and knew more wild herbs berries
@gazorpazorp9798
@gazorpazorp9798 Год назад
Thats your analysis and take away?
@CommonSenseCriticism
@CommonSenseCriticism Год назад
They had a lot less to do than we do today. All they had to do was kill dinner and not let it eat them in the process.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann Год назад
Human Intelligence hasn’t significantly changed for the hominid species over many hundreds of thousands of years. We often confuse intelligence with the accumulation of knowledge or implementation of technology. Artistic expression is the same.
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 Год назад
@@gazorpazorp9798 Just an observation and opinion. What's your analysis and take away?
@apollothirteen9236
@apollothirteen9236 7 месяцев назад
Chris , Do you want to go have lunch today? I found a good Chinese place. If so, how about 1pm?
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