When Kidnapping A Baby Was Her Last Resort | Chicago Med 

I traumatized my dad when I was 3, disappering in the mall, he had a friend in the security there so they lockdown the place. Actually look like I run of to the toys section, but when I noticed dad was not behind me I just sit there waiting for him, still because of that dad don't leave me separated from him if we are shopping together and I'm in my 20s now... 😅

@@Rea_no_Kuni Same my mum and aunt was getting their hair done I was playing up so they said if I behave we’ll go to Poundland and get toys I must have been 2 years old I walked to pound land filled a basket with toys then just sat there and waited they went mentally looking for me 😂 Had a harness after that hell I half remember having it on but god did people have some words to say to my mum and dad when me and my brother had those harnesss on

Oh for sure. I was kidnapped by my bio dad at 12 for a month, whenever my daughter (3) is out of my sight I barely contain my panic. When she was about one she was behind a curtain and I couldn’t find her and the only things keeping me from a panic attack was knowing our three dogs never would have let anyone into the house without freaking out and she could not possibly open the baby gate or the deck door and certainly never would have closed it behind herself. The next time my mother in law said she was going to take her downstairs to play but I didn’t hear her over the sounds of supper. When I couldn’t find her that time I held it together long enough to race downstairs and see if my mother in law had taken her. I don’t think I let go of her for five minutes after that. The park can be a nightmare. Since there’s so much stuff she can run behind and places she can play where she’s not in sight from where I am. I try not to hover but it’s hard to tamp down the fear that she’ll be grabbed.

@@abysswalker2594 lol u saying poundland ik u from uk

@@naomiakande5731 i bet she is. Im pretty sure only we have a pound land

I also thought of Criminal Minds.

The hospital lock down really give the vive of Criminal Mind episode 7 Second where a little girl was missing inside a mall and it go on lock down due to two kids already murder inside the mall

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@@syabilaazri7834 oh yeah i remember that one, was it the one where it ended up being the aunt and uncle??

@@elysenahar223 yup...i can already tell that her own family member hide her when the gang find her doll and find out that her uncle give her a gold necklace because 1: a happy and nice children always groom their doll base of them but the fact the doll look like a mess tell that she feel like a ugly doll 2: that necklace is way to expensif to give to a child who not even your daughter. Most parents or relative just give some less of it even it was a gift

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I knew what he meant because if you look at his facial expression, it's more like he's puzzled, if the baby had passed away you would see more sadness, consternation and possibly anger!

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@@jordanabeaulieu2530 of course you could understand, but everything happened quick so I bet you wouldn’t get that so quick! (: but great explanation

@pandapigs ME to

Ya same😁

I thought the same, the only thing that threw me off was the surname

Unfortunately their relationship has fractured permanently and Reese has left the show.

Didn’t we all? 😂

Way did lied to her

Yeah, except she didn't have to. They found the baby in time, and it was clear dr. charles had a plan of attack to get the child back WITHOUT making the womans treatment harder, then Reese speaks up and starts making promises and ethically problematic statements, and he can't stop her because THAT would endanger the child. Not showing a unified front would destroy any chance of trust from the Subject. He did the best he could to curb her, but she blindly persisted and continued to make promises. The reality is, this could have been done right if the Subordinate had kept her emotions out of it, or at the very least recognized that she was not the most emotionally qualified in that moment to speak and let dr charles de-escalate. Instead, her approach resulted in the same outcome, the baby was saved, but at the cost of this womans ability to trust doctors. Now treating her is going to be next to impossible, and dr. Reese may well be the difference between that woman recovering in a year or two... and NEVER recovering. That its brushed off at the end as no big deal is a horrible dis-service to the woman, who turned out to be exactly what dr charles predicted, a traumatized woman who was under a tremendous amount of stress and in need of help and care. Agree or disagree, I hope you have a great day! Peace.

@Meat Box Plays if everything was white and black, justice would be easily achievable

@Meat Box Plays the patient is not exactly in the correct mental state to judge what's right or wrong. This is why the legal system provides a lesser sentence for those claiming psychological incapacity.

@Meat Box Plays yes it is but every person has a right to be treated as one!

Yeah but imagine she’d have left the hospital with the baby, which would’ve been substantially worse,

Yep the law is the law. Totally agree👍

And she is a medical profession her statement cant be used she was not a cop doing barter

The law isn't wrong. It's bullshit

@Bobo The Monkey how? The baby isn't hers. She was sick and desperate but she endangered the baby's life.

I agreed about lying but not about law is law. What she did is she had to weigh the baby's and kidnapper's health as doctor, definitely she chose the baby. She was "negotiating" to get the kidnapee. But Reese really isnt for psychiatry, she sounds so stiff and unempathetic

This comment would be fine if it wasn’t for the emoji

Controversial opinion but I don’t think they’re related

@@rainandhail67 that doesn't mean he can't be a father figure

Wait yeah i remember that

i thought that was the episode! i knew i recognised her from somewhere and my mind went to that episode, but i never confirmed it for myself.

No way it's the same woman!!

How the hell did I not know remember that?!

She the same lady that had a child too early

it was because at the time reese found out her dad was psychopathic so she had a bit of a bias

Who knows? Unlikely doesn't mean not happening.

How are you doing today!?

Well done Dr. Reese👍🤗

She shouldn't have lied, it's clear the lady was not in the right mind, she is filled with grief. She needs help not arrested.

@@amburrelizabeth1572 kidnapping a baby?? Seriously??

@@warh1story563 yes I am serious, her baby died, you've got to give her some sympathy, she's going crazy with grief and quite obviously not in the right mind. She never meant hurt the baby, she was just hurting inside. Arresting her will do nothing, Make sure she's given the help she needs, that's what should have happened. If this were real I'd give the poor woman a hug and tell her things were going to be all right. I really think it wouldn't hurt you to show a bit of sympathy and understanding.

it creates a distrust of authority. Psychiatrists are also not meant to manipulate. It's unethical. She's going to be much less likely to respond to treatment from a psychiatrist if one has lied to her and, should a situation occur where she needs to be coaxed by authorities again, she will be much harder to convince. Dr Charles could probably have gotten her to give it up but Sarah was too impatient.

@@MsJubjubbird to0 impatient? bruh the baby was dying, time was of the essance. I know the mother was grieving but kidnapping another couples SICK baby, that just to far. i do agrree with psychiatrists are not meant to manipulate, but in this case i feel it was very nessasary. there has to be some kind of lying in those situations, I mean police do it all the time. in this moment Reese's priority was getting the baby back. sarah wouldnt know what that women wouldve or couldve done, The women couldve taken her own life and or the babies. Not allowing the baby to get treatment was also hurting him. every second that baby was in that womens arms it was closer to dying. I understand going through grief, but thinking that she shouldnt have been lied to bc thats unethical, i mean i think stealing a dying baby is a little more unethical dont u think?

@@emmawalker2277 the baby wasn't dying there and then. It was a sick baby but it was conscious and breathing. It certainly could have made it another few minutes while Charles negotiated with her. It is malpractice to lie to patients a doctor has to be above reproach. It also is going to make the situation way worse in terms of addressing the woman's behaviour. If Sarah wasn't disciplined for it she would think it's OK to lie to every patient to get what she wants

@@MsJubjubbird The women was not her patient, therego she had no obligation to tell the truth. In those cirmcumstances u dont have much time to think, they dont know what this women would do. Sarah obviously wouldnt do it again as the end of the clip it was her feeling guilty. she probably thought in the moment thats what she had to do to get the baby back. Yes in the grand scheme of things I do agree that wasnt the best choice but can you really blame someone in that moment for lying to someone who isnt really ur patient so that you can get the baby back? and The baby was sick and the more time the baby was spending in that womens arms they were getting sicker.

@@emmawalker2277 she is about to be committed as a patient and Sarah is a doctor on duty. Doctors have to be ethical with everyone, not just the people in their direct care. I do blame her because she knows it's poor conduct and has done a huge amount of damage. Psychiatrists and any doctors cannot expect their patients to act appropriately if they do not themselves

I knew I saw her before.

i think it’s underdeveloped and instead of moring it’s mourning x

@@mialoubou yes sorry I have dyslexia

@@x_rinaruy_x3464 it’s absolutely fine! just pointing it out

was the the one who had the real small baby in the incubator?

So funny 😑

@@kajusjacky575 u think I'm kidding?

Extremely funny😂😂😂😂

​@@laspeedyboi3388there are old stories that feature mothers being framed for eating their own babies

me too '^'

it’s on prime video

just get Sky

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@@rhapsodyes4609 not all the seasons

Did the baby live?

Ya exactly. I thought the same thing👍

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I can see why she did it because a baby's life was at stake, but by breaking the woman's trust like that she's going to make psychiatric care very difficult.

I don't agree, she said she'll protect not stop the police from arresting her. she thought protect from being arrested but you kidnapped a baby there was no way they weren't going to. Reese can still protect her by going to court and testifying that she wasn't in her right mind and shouldn't go to jail.

See the parking spot for motorbike and cycle paths? There are specifically for certain two-wheeler, but you can see cars or lorries park on the designated parking spot, and people jogging on these paths. I'd agree with Dr. Charles... although you've promised, no one keeps them and would still trample over the rapport you've build, like a raging bulldozer. Do you still want to guilt over what someone else did?

So what did you expect her to do? Leave the infant in the arms of an unbalanced woman?

@@jordanabeaulieu2530 She could've found another way tbh but i'm not going to judge her for choosing to do that. The baby's life was the priority.

a case of kidnap is still a case of kidnap regardless of what happens to the hostage. Moreover, the baby had pneumonia, delaying treatment would mean endangering the baby's life, although she wasn't "physically harming" the baby. She still has to face some sort of repercussions though.

It is the same woman. Maybe they separated after losing their son?

Couples don’t usually spend every single moment of every day together, and she was capable enough of hiding her intentions to convincingly pretend to be a nurse. She could just have told him she was going to work or somewhere else and he would have no idea this was happening. There’s no particular indication from this clip that they separated, although that’s quite possible given her mental state.

His giving her false hope forced her to kidnap someone else's baby?! Do you hear what you're saying?

Her priority was saving the baby, she had no obligation to be truthful to the woman.

That woman was already traumatized and needed serious psychiatric help. She had to be taken into custody or she would be a risk to herself and other babies. Reese did help her. But the priority was keeping her away from children and protecting the baby.

@Mikej212 Exactly ... Taking a baby, despite her own subconscious telling her it is wrong, shows the level of desperation she is in ... ... yet, by staying in the hospital, she also wanted her to be found. Added on top that the complex mental support she needs is likely outside her medical insurance, and you have the perfect mental storm: a woman in desperate need; psychiatry and psychology, whose hands are tied behind their back, due to limitations placed by medical insurance companies; and medical insurance companies & brokers, whom effectively practice medicine with out a license, by effectively telling a doctor, or even surgeon, what procedure/s they _can't_ perform due to that not being covered, to say nothing about being able to deny important drug/prescription treatment ... I swear it is the price gouging by medical insurance companies that result in insane costs, due to what ever methods used to squeeze as much out of hospitals, and administration driving up prices, so that the hospital remains financially viable ...

That's her problem Dr.Reese did the right thing.

the safety of the baby mattered more

The various codes have different meanings between different hospitals - the ones in the Australia are: Black - Internal/Personal threat Brown - External emergency (Natural Disaster etc) Blue - Medical Emergency Red - Fire Yellow - Internal Emergency Purple - Bomb Threat Orange - Evacuation Grey - Aggressive person, not armed

Good riddance.

That's awful.

I can't stop looking at her hair😍

Bruh kid alert

That's what I'm saying let her be with Dr charles

Edge lord

Fr it’s meant to be entertaining not realistic

It's always the case on long running series, the main characters are more seasoned actors, the extras are usually far less experienced.

Adoption and fostering isn't as simple as people make it out to be. It is a very long process and is expensive.

Then you would disagree with Reese who admitted that she did wrong.

@diegohidafl I didn't say lying was the right thing to do lol. But in this case it might be the safest for the kid.

You wouldn't be feeling that way if she'd managed to elude them much longer, harming the baby in the process.