Woman Secretly Sterilized By Her Own Mother | Chicago Med | MD TV 

Not to mention tubal ligation can sometimes be undone. Its rare but possible. The mother is beyond at fault here.

Who are you saying no too 🤣🤣🤣 it's a tv show...

No different than taking a woman's reproduction rights. Oh wait that is what the Supreme Court is doing right now.

@@jaxo5679 and of course, discussing tv shows implies they're real, right? 🤣🤣🤣

She could have put her on birth control instead

this was and still is very common in the south!!!!. I

I question if the daughter was wild since she could just as easily put her on birth control

That's supposedly the same reason Rosemary Kennedy was lobotomized.....though her parents never had to face the music this side of the grave.

@@beverlyarcher3744 She couldn't, actually. In the southern US, it is considered morally wrong for females to use birth control. This is because the south still clings to sexist religious dogmas that tell young girls they deserver to be raped and impregnated for doing so little as wearing *SHORTS IN THE SUMMER.* They see the female body as a sex object, and refuse to see girls and women as people. If the mother had put her daughter on birth control, she would have faced major abuse from the religious. But sterilization is always acceptable, AS LONG AS it is done without consent. A female must never not want children, they must instead have no-children forced onto them if it is seen as the "right" thing to do.

@@beverlyarcher3744 Uh not back then no. Clearly from their ages she was a teen in a time when birth control was probably just coming to market and not easily available in backwoods towns.

I remember reading about that. I think the daughter won or close to it

Do you know the name of the woman by any chance?

@@hwoodster4179 Ann Cooper Hewitt

She could only get her inheritance if she had kids. You forgot that part. Lol. She lost her case because what her mother did at the time was in fact legal.

Its really fucked up that the show clearly is inspired by the this real life incident but tries to make the mother sympathetic.

Unfortunately, it’s not illegal in some places, more so back in those days, but it is IMMORAL. To think that if her mother had confessed years before she might have been able to reverse the operation or try IVF or something, but now she’s too old. It so sad. It’s even worse that these things have actually happened in real life.

Its still legal in 4 states and not done openly as in the past but still done today. Funny thing is only 2 if the state's that is legal is on the south

It wouldn't have been when that woman was 14. If she's in her 50's when this episode aired you're looking at, at least 40 years ago from today. At that time sterilization was being used to prevent 'undesirables' from having children. People with Autism, mental illness, mental/physical disabilities, low IQ, Down syndrome, and yes, even rebellious teens and minorities were sterilized without their consent or knowledge. Back then, eugenics was how society looked at things. Only the 'best' genetics should be allowed to breed. And it was all not only perfectly legal but supported by the American Government. Even now, immigrant women and Native American Women are being sterilized against their knowledge.

Actually not illegal. It is legal in 31 states.

Why,we do it to animals all the time! We need major population control! I’m all for spay and neuter for humans too!

That is completely different. The Women were given a choice. They made their decisions as Women ie Adults and knew what the consequences of their decision were. A fourteen year old Girl being unknowingly sterilised without consultation is Criminal. She had no choice, no say in the matter.

The women actually said the judge gave her 2 choices to be able to keep her, like she said they were from the mountains and the young gurl would get in trouble so for her to not be takin away and placed in foster care and also for her to not reproduce any others possibly trouble like herself they gave the mom the choices either we take her away or u allow her to be sterilized, they did that allot back then with poor folk or criminals or single mothers on welfare or to those they just deemed feeble minded

Exactly! The mother was forced to make this decision by an abusive judge.

Exactly!!! The Mother was tricked and bullied, so she gave in to his demand. The judge treated her daughter like a stray cat that needed to be spaded before being released from the pound.

@@stephanieyee9784 Not true, if you do not know the difference between lawful and legal you will be treated as property. The Mother did not know and was bullied in to medically mutilated her daughter as it was outside of her full consent in exchange for her release.

Same. She would die unforgiven. She'd be forgiven over my dead body.

I wouldn’t care. I don’t want any kids but it is messed up to do that against one’s will .

@@weebpotato2366 I agree. I wouldn't care about not being able to have kids, but the decision is mine to make. Doing a procedure on me without my consent is invasive and a huge breach of trust.

This is HORRIBLE! How selfish of the mother. That daughter trusted her.

@Jamie bryant I wouldn't go to her funeral either.

Literally this. The world is so fricking backwards. 🙄 A 14 year old can unwillingly have her tunes tied but a grown woman can't choose to remove her ovaries?

My little sister has a similar issue. A law was passed in my southern city about this. They refuse to do a tubal surgery unless the woman has more than 3 kids or is over 30. My 28-year-old sister has a uterus that looks upside-down in shape and tilted slightly. She has had one kid and he was premature because of it. She wants no more kids and doctors have warned her about having more. She is taking all precautions as she counts down the next 2 years. Go out of state if you have to. That's what my sister has been looking into.

And people want to argue that a child can choose their gender and have a sex change before 18..but you can’t even get your ovaries removed at 28 with a significant family history of ovarian cancer because “what if you wants kids some days?”

I guess it makes SOME sense. Assuming there's no evidence that you have any cancer yet? Isn't it typically policy for doctors to not remove perfectly healthy organs? I know it's scary, but unless you've shown signs of cancer, I can understand why doctors would hesitate to do that. The whole, 'What if you want kids?" just sounds like a poor attempt to placate you, honestly. The real reason is most likely the slippery slope. They can't make a habit of removing healthy organs from people just because patients want them removed. There's only so much time and resources that doctors have. They need to prioritize the people who need surgeries due to serious health conditions. If they make an exception for one person who wants to have surgery "just in case I get cancer", then they open the door to everyone being allowed to do the same. And suddenly, there's tons of people taking up doctors' time and resources who are not in any serious medical danger. Plus, there's also the fact that such a major surgery is quite risky. You could easily die during a surgery like that. A doctor might see that as an unnecessary risk when there's no evidence you are in an danger of cancer from your ovaries yet. (But again, all this is assuming there are no signs of cancer yet. I take it all back if it turns out there's good reason to believe your ovaries are already cancerous. In that case, seems utterly ridiculous for them to try to prevent the surgery.)

I know what you mean. My daughter is 22, and autistic, and has epilepsy. My daughter and I had a serious discussion about having children, and both of us knew that she could barely take care of herself, let alone a baby. When we approached her doctor about having her sterilized, her refused.So, for now, we just had an IUD put in her. She had to go through surgery to have it put in, and it was painful for her. This was 2 years ago. In 3 years, we will have to put her through another painful surgery to have it taken out, and a new one put in. It infuriates me, that she has to go through 2 painful surgeries when 1 man thinks he knows my daughter and her disabilities better than I do!!!

What kind of violence…?

@@hannabobo4187 it was just a reference to cersei's quote from game of thrones.

I think it might be shock. She would need time to process the emotions. She might feel anger in a few weeks.

It's a TV show

@@jessyvalentine7492 Oh okay.

I didn't know that tubal ligations could be reversed.

*IN SOME CASES It can't work for everyone, don't spread false information.

@@sarahrobertson634 in theory, in practice it often can't be. Just as in theory cutting the tubes can be reversed as well by stitching things back together but in practice it's not always going to work. Or in theory they can reattach a severed limb, but in practice it's iffy.

@@sarahrobertson634 . I think they said she has clips, so they could take the clips out

@@DirtyPrancing most tubal ligations use the clips, and are still irreversible in 90% of cases.

1980’s where?

@@MsHall0000 The United States....especially in the special needs population. The females in institutions were sterilized. Most were given hysterectomies, so 1: they would not get pregnant and 2: So staff wouldn't have to deal with their monthly cycles. Look into the history of medical procedures for birth control on women.

This is still true today in the U.S. prison system!!!

someone quoted a case where this happened in the 30s, where the mother said the daughter was too mentally ill, and that was still reason enough they would do it without patient consent. Also, it was done to poor women until the 80s,

@@MsHall0000 I know it happened to poor women in North Carolina for decades and they did the same thing in Puerto Rico..

I mean it sounds like it wasn't really up to the mother. Forced sterilization is a legal thing that happens, unfortunately. Lying about it, yes, that's evil. Especially because they used clips which are reversible in 90% of cases, so when she was older and more responsible, finished school and whatnot, she could have reversed it, but it looks like she's too old now

and another stupid femenist not paying attention to when she said the judge said be sterilized or go to jail

up until the early 2000's many states actually forced this as an option on young women. it was pretty much the justice system telling them to be sterilised

It was playing god or a major exercise in narcissism. In mythology, Narcississ was obsessed with his reflection and the control over that. Outside of just "all about me," Narcissists view other people as reflections of their self-worth, everything they do and accomplish is given to the narcissist, and people are not individuals with needs and wants independent from the narcissists. Here, the mother thoughtlessly sterilized her own daughter from what other people spoke about the girl, leaving the dynamic between them permanently mother and daughter, and the only expansion or alterations would be from the mother's initiative.

The woman with appendicitis is the patient. If anyone discovered the woman wasn't informed about here own medical conditions by her own doctors, they'd be vulnerable to a a massive lawsuit and possibly losing their licenses.

@@pullybungieharder Yes, I understand that the mother was basically asking the doctor to do something that would make her vulnerable to a massive lawsuit and possibly cause her to lose her license. My point is she asked politely.

It’s more than just legal liability, it’s basic moral decency. The mother was asking the doctors to become willing accomplices in the cover-up - to knowingly participate in the ongoing violation of another person’s rights. The daughter’s doctors have a duty to the daughter, as their patient. And she has a basic right to the truth about her own body. So ultimately, the mother’s preference to continue the deception is irrelevant.

The patient needed to know why her appendix bursted and why she needed an emergency appendectomy. She needs to know that the previous procedure she had was actually a tubal ligation and not an appendectomy. This is important info for the patient to know in case she has another complication and/or procedures in the future. Not knowing this info could lead to misdiagnosis, delay in care, and can cause harm/death to the patient. Most importantly, it is simply unethical to keep information about the patient's own body from the patient, especially if they're capable of making decisions. It goes beyond protecting our licenses and preventing a lawsuit. It is about being a patient advocate and putting their best interest first.

How they would explain it? "OOOOH, your apendicis bursted here, no one here know why, buuuuut, you had apendicis until now." And the other surgery? If not appendices, what was that?

It is. But reversal is frequently impossible.

in most cases you canning reverse tubal ligation

She’s too old to get it reversed :(

@@MsTinkerbelle87 OP is saying if someone told her earlier it could have been possible

You cant get it reserved!!!

Damn, that's heartbreaking.

What tribe?

more recent some asylum seekers in detention in Florida were " sterilized" against their knowledge. more aweful treatment of " brown" women of color.

That's monstrous and genocide.

And this will happen again. I fear for my daughters. If my husband and I do not raise them with politically correct philosophy and now that racism is actively being encouraged from the highest levels of government, this is a constant threat

Funny enough, now there’s HEAPS of “feeble minded” folks out there 🤡

Thank you finally someone who understands her predicament

It was a common option in several states in the past. Typically in cases after more than one child has been removed from custody with repeat failed rehab addiction parents

Yeah, like getting her an IUD or the one in the arm or the every three month shot or a birth control patch… there’s so many other choices

The story took place 30 + years ago. She was poor and the Judge threatened the mum that he would jail the girl . So she was kind of forced at that point. But she could have undone the procedure later in life if she had told her daughter the truth. So that's her fault.

Getting pregnant at such a young age isn’t the worst thing to happen I totally get no one wants their child to have a baby young buuut people act like it’s the ending of the world when it happens

So tying her tubes at 14 is somehow the better outcome?

@@miimonalisa but that wasn't the option. It was prison or this. And tubal ligations were ALSO performed in prisons btw.

@@leonamay8776 Yeah that’s just absolutely ridiculous

the judge said, jail time or give up kids, and yea have it secretly done because we know your daughter wants kids at 15 years old so she can lose them to CPS all because shes a juvenile criminal, or hear me out, the mother actually did this to protect her daughter from jail time, and was scared her daughter would hate her for saving her from a life of imprisonment, which from what was said, yea that would have happened,

it happened a lot actually

That does happen back in the day. Any women going into the Mental Health facility would almost be sterilized to prevent the 'madness' from spreading to the next generation.

Ahh the Missippi Appendectomy

Look up the American Eugenics lawsuit

@@kristingallo2158 Thank you. I will.

Same. I know everyone is bashing the mother, who made the wrong choice, but I also empathize with her too. The mother’s intentions do matter in this case, she did it to protect her daughter because she loves her. The mother was born into poverty and I’m assuming relatively uneducated. Then to be given an extreme ultimatum by an authority figure - a judge, im sure she was convinced it was the right choice. Her biggest mistake was not telling her daughter sooner, although im sure it was very hard to find the right time to tell her. Like if her daughter is crying how she hasn’t been able to get pregnant

I’m sure the mother had been struggling to figure out how to tell her daughter who she loves, without destroying their relationship irreparably And if she’s uneducated, she may not have known there could be other options for her daughter to have a child biologically, besides adoption So I can see how the mother would’ve had an extremely hard time deciding when or if to tell her daughter. Especially if it made no difference in her daughters ability to have a kid. It’s likely she’s spent her whole life with this pain and regret

She deserves to be poor lol

I'm so sorry. 😞 It is seriously so messed up how doctors don't give us any real choices over our bodies. There is SO much change we need to implement in America.

I'm sorry, written permission from your fiancé??? What in the world?? So sorry that you had to experience all of that!

@@FG56710 yeah. That’s not the only reason I ended my engagement, but it’s a solid reason I’ve never considered getting engaged or married. No matter how far we come, a woman marrying a man will always come second. Car salesmen will always address your husband first. People at weddings or bars or whatever will ask your husband’s permission to dance with you. Even if you make the most money, everyone will call him the “Head of the household”, etc. you’re owned by your dad until he walks you down and aisle to hands you to your new owner. Women don’t have their own last names. They have their father’s last name, or if they had a single mom, their grandfather’s last name. I think that experience really changed a lot of things for me, I won’t even live with someone now. I am the head of my household only bc I am the only one living in it. I hate how true that is.

@@Miss_Camel It's disgusting. Someday women will truly be equal.

@@Miss_Camel I'll take "shit that never happened" for 800, Alex

Corruption. They did say the judge was so powerful and influential he “almost ran the town”

No. It would never happen.

@@commondirtbagz7130 Well the USA has a long history of involuntary sterilizations.

@@commondirtbagz7130 this episode is based, like many other episodes, on actual events. Learn some history about involuntary sterilization.

@@AB-mx1de I know about it dude, but I don’t know why you keep using past cases that don’t have precedent anymore.

That's because she's a terrible mother and an even worse person. She's too sick to be saved from salvation, and needs to be eliminated in bloodshed.

She should have asked her daughter what she wanted to do. Might have said she'd rather be able to have kids.

There's no excuse for taking away a child's bodily autonomy or an adult's. Ignorance and poverty are not excuses for poor decisions. They are just the explanation.

A tubo ligation can be undone. she could have told her when the daughter wanted to have kids about the operation. It could have been reversed.

@@disgracedgrace7613 keep in mind what dr 100 said about the judge threatening her is also into play. This was the 1980s probably at the time when this happened and we both know that the justice system back then wasn’t that good. Not saying our modern justice system is perfect but compared to justice systems we had for centuries before today’s, ours is a improvement. And she said it herself that this judge practically had a lot of power over the county so what this judge did was use said power to force the mother to make two choices whether or not the daughter was aware. Mother isn’t perfect but not all of it was her fault. If she didn’t do this the daughter would have been in prison.

@@disgracedgrace7613 Yeah, I don't know why the stupid woman didn't hire a Yale lawyer to fight for her kid. That's what you'd do, isn't it, hire the most expensive lawyer from the top law school in the country. You know how to get yourself one of those, don't you?

I can't imagine someone deciding at FOURTEEN you will never be allowed kids. All 14 year olds are idiots, it doesn't mean they won't make a good parent at 28...38...48. Taking that much of a huge life decision away from someone should actually be considered torture 😰

You'd have no legal recourse if a judge ordered it.

@@purplebean8989 need to break this to you but there's still places where that's the case. It is very common in Michigan and even some parts of Ohio that if you lose custody of your children to Department of Children Services for whatever reason they will decide you can no longer keep any child you have after that. And they will threaten you with that to make you sign over that child. Michigan has been known to go across state lines to remove a newborn born to someone who lost a child to the system at 15 who's now 30 married completely different place they don't care we said you are never allowed to have a child again you aren't allowed to ever have a child again. There have been people who have fled to Canada to try to escape those rulings because they have completely turned their lives around and are now fit parents and want to start their lives over and Michigan authorities have gotten warrants to remove those children from their parents and have the parents thrown in jail for contempt of court. It still happens. It has happened to full grown adults much less children

Me to

What does it mean "choke hold" ? 😁

@@babi9784 it means your kinda addicted like every time I see a clip I HAVE to watch it

Same lmao

Like same - I never watched med series but these clips are interesting lol

No the county did that, if she went to jail I am pretty sure the Judge would have done it regardless. This was over 40 years ago and things were alot different than they are now, especially in backwater counties.

@@WizelBalan It doesn't matter It's still wrong no matter how you slice it. Period.

@@DragonGoddess18 you say it doesn't matter but what choice did the mother have? She was being threatened by the judge that she either lose her child or get her tubes tied. Remember she's a mother she didn't want to lose her child and she was probably too poor to leave the town so she really had no choice but to do that. Now her keeping it from her daughter I dont agree with but this lady did not want to lose her daughter even though she was struggling so don't say "no matter how you slice it still wrong" if you can't even consider her situation

@@watermelonbun7069we always have a choice…

She had no other option

​@@ashleytrout7452that's a lie

@@psychedelic.dreamer it was surgery or prison, take your pick

Prison. 13 years old I would’ve chosen to go to jail and still be able to have children later in life

@@threelittlegingers8290 a former prisoner who missed a proper education and holds no valuable skills to any employer. Not much of a life could be made out of that

Mine ruptured in my mid thirty's ( about 7 years ago), and all I did was throw up, make an inappropriate joke so someone had some past words to share if I didn't make it, and then lights out till it was over.

There can be relief when they rupture, too, though (my dad’s ruptured 3 days before they diagnosed it, because his abdominal pain had mostly gone away when it did, so they thought his fever and vomiting couldn’t be from appendicitis). Different people have different experiences. I’m sorry you went through that and I’m really glad you’re okay.

@ShAnTi adopting is one of the hardest things to do

@ShAnTi an option that’s very very hard to get approved for , at least in America. Fostering is a bit easier the get into.

@Micheal Murphy I am from Harlan County Kentucky but live in Indiana

Why do the crazy people get these procedures yet us who are CF can rarely get sterilized

@@velvetdarksoul8741 this is not a good thing. Medical rape is still rape.

So disgusting. Especially if they never told the adult child.

And yet I’m sure the same preventive measures weren’t given to the ‘promiscuous’ boys. Absolutely sick.

Sourthren doctors are a different breed. They will do this a 'Wild child' to stop teenage pregantcy, but will refuse a c-section becuse 'if god wanted a baby born that was, he would of put a zipper there.'

it happened to a lot of people without any consent from any parties, it still happens, but usually to people of color (it used to be basically routine to sterilize native women during other procedures, it's a tool of genocide)

Yeah I have a family with a bunch of OBGYN in it. Considering the time frame we’re talking, yes there absolutely would have been a number of southern docs who would have done so. Surgery has a really unfortunate history.

plenty of doctors would do it, especially in deeply religious communities. Just look at the hordes of doctors performing medically dubious, if not outright needless, procedures for religious or purely financial reasons. Things like circumcision (on both boys and girls) are nothing short of mutilation and are hardly ever needed (the ONLY need for it in men is in case of severe inflammation of the penis that can't be treated by medication, in effectively amputating the infected tissue for example).

Southern men. Need I say more?

Except no they wouldn't. You forget back when that old lady was young men ruled EVERYTHING if that judge decreed for her to get her daughter's tubes tied she either did it or the judge would have brought false charges against her and had her thrown in jail.

@@gothgirlgaming9050 yeah I didn't see the clip though it happened recently

Different times back then. Also she was an unmarried mother in the south which is frown upon and the mama is shamed for it. Single mothers now have more respect than they did back then.

How would they judge be headed to jail? Its still legal!!!!!

I cared for sisters whose father had them sterilized in the 80s.

Yay, eugenics

This was being done in 2017-18 to women who crossed the southern border.

@@elenachristian9860 if they crossed illegally, then good.

@@elenachristian9860 A woman getting sterilized after committing a crime doesn't instill as much sympathy from me over a woman getting sterilized for being born the wrong color.

@@miceltusav88 - racist troll!

@@InitialPC By the way, this stolen country took parts of Mexico too. So if anything, you have no clue if any of those refugees actually have forgotten roots in the same place you feel they are outlaws,criminals...for suffering from colonialism and imperialism.

So wrong. So sorry he did that to you. It is abuse.

I'm so sorry. It is unfortunately often irreversible. :(

Eugenics?

I'm so sorry

Abled bullshit, man. Sadly, what your dad did is still legal in 31 states, thanks to the Supreme Court decision of Buck v. Bell. It was decided in 1927 that forced sterilization of disabled people is constitutional, and no one has explicitly overturned it. Stack that with the repeal of Roe v. Wade, and disabled people are stripped twofold of reproductive autonomy in this country.

Judges and laws back in her day were much different. Also everything thing had cocaine and cancer in it, so bad choices are bound to be made by people of power.

May have something to do with that mama was unmarried and had a baby which was big time frowned upon in the area as well as most of the USA. Unwed mothers were the lowest of lows. Single mothers of this day get treated with more respect than single mothers of that time.

Yeah it does, corruption exists everywhere

A judge who "practically ran the county" was probably corrupt up to his eyeballs, even if he thought it was for good.

A poor single mother with barely an education would listen to someone in authority. That judge preyed upon that poor woman and fed into her fears and she, without the full story, agreed.

Would that count for the tranz kids 🤔 most of them won't have kids after they change then want to change back to the original sex.

those are newer not as common . so at the time they were put in it wasnt an option

@@ah5721 I don't know. I did a quick check, and at least according to Wikipedia, copper IUD's have been around and in-use since the 1960s, with the technology going back further, although use may have been more limited. Besides, these are examples. Birth control pills have also been around for a long time, and would have been another option. Given this takes place in the US, and judging by the possible respective age of the daughter, there would have been other options besides permanent sterilization at the time of when she was 14 years old. I can't speak for other parts of the world, however. I'd also be happy to do more digging or provide more quality resources to confirm anything, if needed.

While options may have been available in the timeline, the mom stated they were poor. Birth control flexibility has always been available to the rich. It's the poor that have never been able to access it.

@@ChaniBethyPooPoo She was poor and living in a rural community, as well as being pressured by a judge. Other options would have been difficult or not enough to appease that judge. Oh, and by the way, Nikki Berns, this still only the 21st century.

I think I heard birth control pills used to be only allowed for women who were married, and could carry a heavy level of taboo due to attitudes toward premarital sex being very negative. I feel like I can see how covering up a sterilization under the guise of a different medical procedure, which allows you to keep things quiet, would be seen as preferable to trying to argue getting access to a recurring prescription that will carry stigma with it Anyways that seems like a pretty good motivator to make sure options are available to allow these types of situations to be dealt with in a better, less damaging manner

Exaaactly.

She didn't glamorize the decision, hell she lived the life of a teen mother. She was pushed into a corner and picked a lesser evil so to speak. I don't agree with the decision or condone it but It is also unfair to not look at it holistically. Would you let your child be a teen mother with likely an absentee father for the kid and on top of that in and out of Jail?

@@triplemoyagames4195 I'm probably going to get a lot of pushback for this, but to me, sterilization is not the lesser of 2 evils. It's taking away someone's future. (Yes, I know adoption is always an option, but it can be costly and challenging to adopt. Plus, I don't care what anyone says...it's not the same as carrying and giving birth to your own biological child.) The mother did what was the most convenient for her and her daughter. At least, that is the way I look at it.

@@melissasammy6702 No trust me, I doubt I'd make the same decision, you're talking to someone who if possible would want upwards of 10 children, so it's obvious my fertility is one of my most important things to me. With that being said, I simply can see where the mother is come from. Life is hell as a teen mother, let alone a single teen mother at that. So I can understand why the Mom would do anything to prevent her child ending up the same way, if not, worse than her. The mother chose the option she thought was neccesary, plus we can only assume the pressure she felt from the judge and such. It's easier to judge with hindsight and when we aren't in that situation.

This was also around 30 to 40 years ago (not sure how old the daughter is) so times were different

@Adelphia She lived in the rural south likley in the 70's and knowing American healthcare, I doubt it was available. Like I said I don't condone her decision, going off the story, the mother was under duress. She didn't want her daughter to end uo like her. We don't know the full circumstances. Its always easier with hindsight

This show / clip seems off and never would happen in the real world

also the patient didn't consent to the appendectomy

That second position of yours is called eugenics.

What would you do if a judge said your child will be taken away from you, unless you get her tubes tied?

@@brontewcat I'd RAISE HELL if a judge tried that shit, because it would be - wait for it - EUGENICS. And even if I had no choice, I'd have told my daughter when she was a young adult, because that surgery is reversible.

@@wastingmytime7258 I think the second point is the real betrayal - not telling her daughter. If she told her daughter when she was 18, and that it was reversible then her actions were more easily forgivable because I get the impression she had little real choice BTW I the judge’s comment may be an example of eugenics, the mother’s action to prevent her daughter getting pregnant and living a life of poverty is not.

@@wastingmytime7258 Actually the best form of contraception is education. The better educated a woman the better her chances of making choices that do not lead to early pregnancies.

That's foul....

God has a plan for your life!

Nope still legal today. Last case of it is being fought now from 2006

@@heatheraddams5240 and more like ICE still doing it.

it had nothing to do with Elvis or JERRY LEE they both wanted wifes who could have kids . it had to do if people thought you were mental sick disable such as deaf ,needed glasses ,mute or poor or they just hated you are somebody in your family or even better you would needed government benfits or your education level or if you were not married .this was done in northern cities in to the late 80s

@@jeanpresley1220 They married 14 year old children, Sparky. Lewis married is eff'ing **cousin** for God's sakes. That's child abuse... period. No excuses, no justifications, no allowances, it's pedophilia. You know, they got billboards in Louisiana and Alabama that read, "She's not your date, she's your daughter!" and a telephone number for an incest hotline. Feel free to look that up. So tell me again how this isn't a problem in the South. As for girls being from the North and being sterilized, I'm fully aware of that. My mother and I live in the Pacific Northwest and it nearly happened to her.

Exactly, all these comments saying this is barbaric... Which it is but hope everyone here is also in favor then of not circumcising too. Which is also wrong on so many levels.

Stupid People and their stupid rights to have their children. Mandatory abortion should be for anyone with an income under 250 k a year.

This!

That's not true. Legally you can't use your body to hurt another person.

@@yumiloomerstorytime.4830 Give me an example. And remember I did say "Their own body." And this is not about the right to do something with your body that would hurt an innocent life inside of a body. That baby has a right too.

You commented something that was inaccurate. You said no one has the right to tell anyone what they should do with their own bodies. People use their bodies for violence every day.

Lol I can't afford an OBGYN, can you? Privilege really does change how we see the world.

Many women don’t even get insurance until they qualify for pregnancy Medicaid. I couldn’t get pregnant for five years. It took getting insurance from work I could hardly afford and 1500 out of pocket to get a deep diagnosis and treatment. Stop.

@@sharonh4944 In first world countries other than America most people can, yes.

ICE do it without orders.

@@sharonh4944 no ethical doctor who wants to Keep their medical license would do that.

@@hardtogetnamehere obviously there are a lot of unethical doctors around then!

@@hardtogetnamehere besides this is all based on true stories of women being forcibly sterilised by authorities, including by a judge's orders, as here. Saying it doesn't and didn't happen won't change history and the facts. It still happens today!

Well the USA has a long history of involuntary sterilizations.

Just give the Supreme Court more time .. it will happen

Forced sterilization def used to be a thing in the US

@@toriigolczewski1674 still is ....

@@miguelfigueroa5659 It's illegal now, but yeah, I'm sure people still get away with it :/