When Longevity Starts to Look Suspicious 

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Anyone else remember when he went down with an ankle injury in Miami that was supposed to keep him out for at least a month or 2, then he came back in 2 weeks looking 20 pounds heavier all muscle? LOL

1. Had a growth removed from his jaw. 2. Name found on bio list wit r. Lewis etc. 3. Lost extreme weight when he went back to Cleveland then took time off to go to Miami and gained all his muscle back. 4. Gained 7lbs during a game.

He’s a vampire that drinks the blood of young talents. Why do you think he is playing better than a lot of the younger guys.

Lebron is an example of what we get with great genetics, work ethic, and peds.

I would dispute that LeBron is playing at an “elite level”. He hasn’t played all 82 games for years. By the end of the season he rests a lot and sometimes doesn’t even make it back on defense. LeBron is playing 60 games a season. 😂😂😂

Can you do a video on speculations that Zach Lavine is potentially using PDD (Performance depriving drugs)?

He has a chemist or Lazarus pit in his basement. There is no other explanation.

The problem with comparing LeBron to other NBA players at his age is that those players weren't putting the resources into their body that LeBron was

Chael Sonnen, MMA guy called him about that years ago. That hairline memes yeeeaars ago were already suspicious enough and his jaw tumor also.

Its physically impossible to sustain that kind of speed and explosiveness at LeBron's size and his age combined with insane amount of miles on his legs. The NBA doesn't test for those substances anymore, you haven't heard of any player being suspended in the past several years.

Earlier this year LeBron‘s wife was being investigated for PED distribution. The story came out and disappeared fast.

By load managememt, peds and allowing le flop to get away with offensive fouls but can't be touch by defenders.

The leagues wouldnt test him if they caught him with a syringe in his thigh. He could choke Rudy and get away with it.

Le Flop is a scar on the league.

Come on Kareem averaged 23ppg when he's 38. With modern training and medicine it's not exactly impossible that Lebron can do that. Also he hasn't played more than 60 games in quite a few years and coasts on defense

You ignore Kareem at age 38 , (same as LeBron now,) won his second Finals MVP in 1985 when he became the oldest to win the award at 38 years and 54 days old. After that, Kareem went on to win the NBA championship at age 40 in 1987 and again at age 41 in 1988 Lebron won his last finals mvp at age 36 and none since. Looks like Lebron has his work cut out for him to be as relevant as Kareem in his late 30's and 40's.

I do agree it can be suspicious at times lebrons physical capabilities at age 38 it’s not unheard of, Eliud Kipchoge became the first human ever to run a sub 2 hour marathon at age 35, while it wasn’t an official marathon attempt it’s still ridiculously impressive and broke the marathon world record in 2022 at age 37

You think the league is morally above covering up Lebron's potential PED use? They literally just covered up Giddey's child molestation and allow him to keep playing while hes being criminally investigated like nothing is happening😂

Bron don't play 34mins a game dude just be standing around not playing defense waiting for an easy lay up

To be fair if you only use videos of Lebron's defense during this season to what he was doing during his stint with Miami people would be asking "how did he get so old so fast!?"

Remember when everyone thought Lance Armstrong was some freak of nature, and then his PED use was uncovered? Same thing is going to happen to Lebron.

During his stint in Mia he was also suspected since back then. Chael Sonnen said he knows his drug guy, LeBron neither denied it nor went after him for those claims. I've seen him during halftime drop a pill he takes but that could be anything not necessarily bad.

hyperbaric oxygen is really effective. he probably uses frequencies too. plus what ped can make you play basketball good? what ped can make you halt aging effect?

Wilt chamberlain was a world class volleyball player at 50 and still getting offers to play in an nba roster

He's obviously using PED and we shouldn't have any problems with it since almost everyone in the nba are using it. It's a fair game. Even Derrick Rose admitted that steriods was a problem in the nba back in early 2010s but he was forced to take back his words.

I think its mixture of him being an super elite athlete, the league being the softest and least physical its ever been , him never really playing much in the post , him playing little t no defense over the last 6 or 7 years , not playing in college ... and PED's

I also find it odd that this isn't talked about too much. Money gives him more scope than others in this regard. I'm a cycling fan, and when I hear the "1.5 million dollars per year on his body" line trotted out, it makes me think of cyclists talking about "marginal gains" etc. to explain away their superior performances. I mean, how much can a good diets, workout regimens or even cryotherapy chambers really do to fight against Father Time? My best guess is that Lebron uses products that are borderline, and thus NOT illegal. Not a bodybuilder's trenbologna sandwich, but rather low level testosterone and salbutamol on some kind of therapeutic use exemption, or maybe more experimental things like bovine colostrum (very speculative I'll admit!). Money can help you to bend the rules, if not break them.

5:58 Where are the studies linked in the description? Are these articles empirical, peer reviewed, moreover, what year were they published?

We only have the entire history of sports to compare! In the history of sport as we know them. The only times a person has gotten bigger! Faster and Stronger over the age of 35! Enhancements were involved...and ladies and gentlemen we call that cheating! Barry Bond and Roger Clemons are not in their HOF for bigger, faster and stronger late in life!

Good piece! It's so amazing how most ex basketball players his age suffer from hip, knee, and foot problems from all of the jumping and cutting but LeBron walks normally after 20 yrs of playing high-level ball from Oct-June. This dude is on something. Blood transfusions, masked PEDs something. At this pace, he'll be still playing in the NBA when his draft class of 2003 becomes grandparents and great-grandparents.

Chael Sonnen seems to know whats going on

i think the problem with players that pushed 40s is that their work ethic isn't the same they kno they're close to the end so instead of going harder they slow down but bron doing the complete opposite

I guess you gotta do one of these every year now.

lebron had been in the league my entire life. two year before i was born in fact. i’m an adult😂

Comparing him to Roger Clemens doesn't exactly clear him of PED use.

Bro said refs riggin games is a conspiracy from 2000s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

There is no doubt in the majority of NBA fans knows this man is on something seeing how long he's been playing. Lebron's been taking an executive break on the court since 2013. When's the last time he's played a full 82 game season? He's purposely doing what he's doing to preserve his body. Whereas Mike, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson truly gave everything until their bodies gave out. Those are true NBA goats, not LeFraud the NBA float!

People act like you turn 35 and your body turns to glass. What the issue really is is that traditionally guys just started resting on their laurels and would skip workouts because they'd paid their dues. Now, the guys who are really dedicated, like James and Curry, keep up with all the conditioning that most guys don't. It's going to be difficult to keep top-end speed into your late 30s but most of the game doesn't depend on that. You can keep the vast majority of your endurance and skill until well into your 40s if you work at it.

Here i am thinking bron ped era was the miami years. But now its this. Man the longevity and resilience is incredible

Well Lebron has always kept himself in really good shape even though I'm not a big fan of his I give him credit for doing well at his age but yeah this is starting to get suspicious

It’s about damn time we have this conversation…

MJ was still elite at 40 plus after 4 years of retirement these are the goats of the sport

In any sport if you were averaging same at 40 as you were in your prime you would be under investigation. Imagine Usain Bolt running 9.6 in the 100 at 40 that would be instant investigation.

“I dont believe lebron is using PEDs, im just asking questions” then spends an entire video strongly suggesting lebron is juicing lol this is like watching some tucker carlson shit

Have you watched a modern NBA game? Because if you have, it's obvious why he's been around for so long. Here are the bullet points: - physical play is literally banned. It's easier on the body - all the long distance chucking means you're basically running from one three point line to the other on most plays, cutting down the total distance covered (unless you're Steph Curry) - there's so much stoppage in play nowadays, not just from mandatory tv timeouts, but also for all the referee discussions and asides that seem to happen every 3 minutes. Overall, if you watch an NBA game on league pass with no commentary, you'll see how much downtime there actually is, and it's AOT

LeHaters be desperate.

Jordan retired from the wizards at 40... and Jordan is the oldest player ever to score 50 in a game... we'll see what LeBron does at that age

Elite traveller. Elite carrier. Elite shooter from 3feet. Elite charger without being called for it. Elite at shoving his forearm into his defenders throat without being called on it. Elite at getting phantom foul calls. Elite flopper. Elite ref whinger. Gets free runs to the basket as the defence is not willing to get a tech foul for breathing on him. Yeah hes elite alright. And hes known to be associated with a doping company. Elite. Youre kidding right? Btw. Don bradman was elite well into his 40s. And probably could have continued until 50 he was that much better.

LeBron has been a freak specimen since he was in highschool so It don't Surprise me how he is now . We haven't seen this .

The older players put a lot more stress on their bodies, having to play both ends of the floor at a high level. Okay to compsre players from different eras, but then you must also compare the game. Dont discount the constant hits and bumps the jordans and birds of the era took in the paint.

Proper load management 😂

My black friend use to say, "Black don't crack unless you smoke em."

1:06 the King responded to you 😁🤭

Stockton is longevity, Lebron is load management

"Starts?" Yall absolutely fooling yourselves off you think LeBron isn't taking the most advanced, lab rat, experimental sh*t that's out there. $1M on his body has to go somewhere, cmon now.

Someone should study this, because it is not just happening to LeBron or in the NBA (e.g. Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, etc.). Other examples are Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, Tom Brady, Roger Federer, and Rafael Nadal.

Not a big LeBron fan but if there are any set of drugs that can help you stay healthy, energized and injury free, that drug is called "extreme self discipline".

Compared to old man LeBron Jordan was playing 1-on-5 in Washington. Imagine if old man Jordan was playing for a decent team. Phil Jacksom wanted him to join him on the Lakers making a big 3 of Shaq, Kobe and Jordan.

Today's league make it easier for a player like Lebron once he's still in great shape. His stats looks the same when he was in his absolute peak prime and this is clearly because how the league has changed since around the mid 10's. Still was he's doing is impressive, especially because this year he's looking like the better version of himself since the 2020 bubble. Now how suspicious is impossibile to say but throughout his career there has been other moments where he looked off and then after some break he came back like a totally different player, also the speed on which his body react and recover after injuries is incredibile too. For sure he's a freak of nature and invested a lot on his shape but clearly some suspicious come to mind.

It's the new hair plugs!

Someone had to post this 😅😂

I am the opposite of you in my reasoning, the fact that he has played sooooo long is what kills him, he still is not as decorated as Mike who played significantly fewer seasons at this point My criteria is very extensive for the NBA GOAT, and much more stringent than most, that criteria is as follows, *Required to be in GOAT conversation:(15 boxes to check) •10+ Playoff Appearances •4+ Conference Finals Appearances •3+ NBA Finals Appearances •2+ Championships •2+ Finals MVP •1+ Regular Season MVP •10+ All NBA Teams(1st,2nd,3rd) •Make an All-Rookie Team(1st,2nd) •12+ All Star Appearances •10+ Additional Awards on top of all that •Have to be the star player(1A at worst) •Have to hold an NBA record •Top 25 All Time in Playoff Win Shares •First ballot HOF(or future) •Check 60%+ of total boxes(50, 35 to go) Those 15 alone cut you down to 10 players ever that can check all of those boxes, 2 more that can check every box but Finals MVP and All-Rookie Team... because they didn't exist yet or early enough, but hit everything else, you should be able to guess who those 2 are lol, they are the only 2 who can say that, those 12 players set themselves apart from the rest, next category is stuff that most of those 12 check, but not all of them on anything, some are increased requirements from stuff already in there to knit pick between them, *Commonalities:(15 boxes) •Win ROY(9/12) •Make an All Defensive Team(10/12) •Win an All Star Game MVP(10/12) •Make more than 5 All NBA 1st Teams(10/12) •Win back to back NBA MVP(9/12) •Back to back Championships(9/12) •3+ Championships(9/12) •Have a .500+ Record in the Finals(10/12) •Average a Career Double-Double(8/12) •Be Top 25 in Total Win Shares(11/12) •Be Top 25 in Points(9/12) •Be Top 25 in PPG(8/12) •Be Top 25 in Playoff Points(11/12) •Be Top 25 in PER(10/12) •Be Top 25 in Box Plus/Minus(8/12) Last category is stuff no more than half of those 12 players have, and in all but 3 cases, it is 45% or less, to really knit pick, we get full blown on the increased requirements, heavier focus on defense, last of the list, *Rarities:(20 boxes) •Top 25 in RPG(6/12) •Top 25 in APG(2/12) •Top 25 in SPG(2/10) •Top 25 in BPG(5/12) •Top 25 in MPG(5/12) •Top 25 in Playoff PPG(5/12) •Top 25 in Defensive Box Plus/Minus(3/10) •50-40-90 Season(2/12) •Threepeat NBA MVP(3/12) •5+ NBA MVP(3/12) •Threepeat Championships(4/12) •5+ Championships(6/12) •Win DPOY(2/10) •Win multiple scoring titles(5/12) •Win a rebounds title(4/12) •Win an assists title(3/12) •Win a steals or blocks title(4/10) •Make more than 5 All Defensive 1st Teams(3/11) •Win multiple All Star Game MVP(6/12) •Win a Slam Dunk or 3 Point contest(3/12) 😅 if you're still reading congrats, and thanks lol, here are the 12 players that meet all requirements available to them and where they rank in terms of percentage of possible boxes checked ✅️ in ascending order: 12)Hakeem Olajuwon(30/50; 60%) T-10)Kevin Durant(31/50; 62%) T-10)Larry Bird(31/50; 62%) T-8)Kobe Bryant(32/50; 64%) T-8)Magic Johnson(32/50; 64%) T-6)LeBron James(33/50; 66%) T-6)Tim Duncan(33/50; 66%) T-4)Shaquille O'Neal(35/50; 70%) T-4)Bill Russell(28/40; 70%) 3)Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(36/50; 72%) 2)Wilt Chamberlain(30/41; 73%) 1)Michael Jordan(42/50; 84%) As expected... MJ is the GOAT, not expected, the gap between him and number 2... is the biggest gap on the list, he is on a level all his own, and it gets more obvious the longer you look 🤷‍♂️💯

the only time i heard about testing in PED when Danny Green got an alley op dunk or a miss shot dunk.

stem cells, hgh, epo, and peptides. My guy's on all of them with the compounded knowledge. yes it doesnt take away from his athleticism and talent, but it sure as hell lets him retain it

It hurts his legacy when u compare him to all time greats, but idk if it hurts him in the context of this era since I’m pretty sure everyone or most elite players are taking PED’s. It would make sense for the league to allow it because it allows the game to b more entertaining and for high level talent to stay out on the floor. They’re not fighting each other they’re putting a ball through a hoop. But I think he gave himeself away when he talked about how his doctor said his foot healed faster than anyone he had ever seen. EPO, peptides, and HGH will do that

How many years has it been since he played a full season?

It's amazing what good genetics and peds can achieve

He still drives the ball at a high rate and he can shoot the threes good and that's just him but where he excels is he don't get tired and that what makes him unstoppable. By him not getting tired causes concerns about him using PEDS.

Were there NBA players or any athletes out there who spends so much money on their body to be in shape, like millions of dollars? Given training is perfect, LBJ always say that his mindset is the main ingredient and driver on his performance at his age.

He not on PEDs he on that VOODOO ☠️😂

Hell, without even speculating on PED usage, Lebron James longevity can be attributed to his not playing hard on both sides of the court, the league continually getting softer and easier, and the officiating becoming highly suspect. I have another question. How can someone who is supposed to be in such great shape be constantly acting like he’s dying when he gets “fouled”?

Nba Players aren’t tested when they are ‘injured’

He uses HGH for his whole career and EPO for the last 3 seasons. They're both undetectable even with advanced USADA testing if the professional administering it knows how to do it. You'd need a smoking gun like a confession to prove it.

The man has invested more money in his body, than 20 people put together would earn in a lifetime.

Where is the video of the bricks, airballs, and turnovers?

10 years ago i predicted bron would have a long ass career projecting his performance and style and comparing it to other long NBA careers. Lot of people said he would not get that points record but i argued he would a long time ago. I am no huge bron fan but i can see what is clear

His off-season stack is well known he goes overseas to Germany and gets the highest quality HGH

If we’re going to talk about Jordan taking significant time off can we please acknowledge Lebron has played only 2/3rds of a season (on avg) ever since he turned 33? And that he has missed more games since he’s been on the Lakers than Kareem missed in his entire 20yr career? I’m not saying that what Lebron is doing isn’t impressive, but I’m growing extremely tired of people acting like it’s unprecedented. MJ’s body actually was breaking down on the Wizards but when he wasn’t trying to play through cracked ribs and partially torn ligaments in his knee I.e. from game 12-game47 of the ‘01-‘02 season he was he was putting up similar numbers but without all the turnovers, missed free throws, and cherry picked baskets from lazy defense/hustle. All I am saying is we’re still only 1/4th into a long season, let’s at least wait till we’re in the last 1/4th of the season b4 we all start giving Lebron hand jobs for something that “we’ve never seen before,” especially since we’ve seen it before

Even PEDs don’t explain it. If you believe Lebrons on PEDs ( and almost 100% is) you’d be extremely naive to not believe more than likely every single other professional athlete is as well. What he’s doing is beyond just PEDs, he’s gifted unlike possibly any other athlete we have ever seen.

People act like "miles on the body" is some kind of a problem, but it's not. The real problem is stopping your training regimen and having to rebuild those muscles when you're older. Lebron maintains his body throughout the off-season so he doesn't have to push his body to get back into the game like Jordan had to through retirement or Kobe had to due to achilles injury. Lebron's been able to avoid any serious injuries through luck/strength/skill, which also means he can maintain his body at a high level all year long. His natural size and athleticism are also major factors in that he doesn't have to push his body as hard as Jordan and Kobe in order to keep performing. Jordan was putting up pretty big numbers at 39-40, it's just that he couldn't keep his knee healthy. That kind of break down will eventually happen to Lebron, as well, but maintaining his conditioning all year helps to prevent the kind of knee damage Jordan experienced from starting in the first place.

Bellerophon17 post is spot on.

First of all, he came out of high school so he's 3-4 years younger than those other cats (except Kobe, but Kobe's achilles tear was what finished him). Second, are you watching him play? The guy can't shoot to save his life and his points are lay-ups and bail-out foul calls. Third, he's not active on the floor. He'll sit out beyond the 3 on offense and just stand there and similarly is just watching stuff happen on defense. His rebounds are all defensive and they fall in his laps while his teammates do the boxing out or create the space. I'll give him his assists though they usually come off broken plays where he still finds the open dude. Fourth, the guy looks tired CONSTANTLY despite not being super active. I don't mean to rag on the guy, but A) him being top-10 today doesn't pass the eye test -- it's media pushing it and surface stats telling half the story, and B) he's not half as active as Kobe or Jordan or Carter or Duncan at that age. Do I think maybe once or twice he used a 'therapy' that wasn't strictly legal? Probably, but not since before the bubble era. That bubble chip really cemented in his mind that he doesn't have to go out and push the envelope like that, ie that his legacy is secured and padding stats and staying uninjured will leave no doubt to being GOAT... in his mind.

Lebron is an alien Cyborg confirmed.

Di you know how far sports medicine has advanced since the 2000? And the game itself has changed so drastically that it's more plausible to last this long vs 1990-2010. Kevin Durant suffered what would be a career ending injury (Ditto Paul George). Curry's type of ankles derailed Grant Hill's prime because the treatment available to Steph wasn't available to Grant. The only anomaly I can think of from those earlier eras was Terrell Owens in football. The amount of training and the advances in training/medical science in 40 years, as well as the amount of advancement should be taken into account, along with luck (LeBron seems to have that).

He hasn’t suffered major injuries. His game is way slower and smarter now vs when he was young. An injury could change everything though

Easy Lebron is a alien.

well ... some dudes think if they cant dunk and cant make athletic moves .. that they are done. bron just develops what is essential to play basketball and making it work.

Even though there's plenty of talent in the NBA, there's none that has the capacity to carry the entire league like LeBron or MJ before him, and Kareem before him. So they have to keep him going. That's my theory anyways. They did the same thing to Mohammed Ali. Knew about the condition, made him fight anyway to keep boxing afloat.

I thought it’s all about load management. Isn’t that why everyone is doing it ? Since it appears to work great for LeBron.

He also rarely ever gets injured too

LeBron and Brady are just smarter than the other athletes

Easy to explain: He's been on PEDs since before his prime. He's always had a great atlethicism, however, it's not normal, also, there are physical red flags indicating the use of PEDs throughout his career.

Its also worth noting that several other players are still playing at a starters or star level at much later ages and years in their careers than they dd in walkers eras ... when the ages on 28 - 32 used to be generally considered a players prime .... but now CP3 is like a year younger than Bron .. KD is 35 ... all the Clips best players are in their mid 30's .. whereas the only player fro earlier eras who I can recall still playing at an All star level mid 30's and beyond were Mj, Kareem , and Karl malone .... but a diffenrce is they tried to play ever game unless really injured ... and didn't load manage or takes games off .... ad had way more "back to backs " etc

Shoot up like a horse. The Barry Bonds era in baseball is still incredible feats to behold and if everybody does it, then it just levels the playing field once more . Which pretty much was the case back then anyway. The world is going to shit dude. I just want to see greatness as long as possible. Don't take this away from us too calling it out. Steph Curry is our guy same thing, but it's inspiring. They still have to go out and execute to dominate.

Kareem also played 4 Years in college.But they were still winning championship s

Im not necessarily a Lebron fan. But i absolutely admire and respect what he's done for the game of Basketball. There is no denying his greatness. Whether youre a fan or not. BUT i think its a fair question to ask about how he's maintaining this level of performance... But i hesitate because i dont want to slight his efforts thus far... But bro, this man is still playing like he ain't at the end. Its hard for me the believe. But any man in every sport has Declined by this time... Not saying its impossible but i think its fair to take note and assess...

That's why LeBron James is not human

Bro you forgetting the goat tom brady Played until he was 45

People act like 38 is too damn old. With the advancements in science and technology over the years, players will last longer and recover better now compared to years prior. Even "career-ending injuries" of the 80s and 90s have seen dramatic recoveries and players coming back to their previous form. Insinuating that someone is cheating without proof is such a low blow. Appreciate greatness!