No that's an idiot talking too much. The same with all of these videos, which makes sense that they cannot keep work if this is how they act. Too openly aggressive. Passively holding your ground and being stubborn is more effective.
@@evi1kitty642”stubborn” is being used loosely here because the point and overall theme of many of these cartoon skits is that managers think they can pull off crazy shit and believe they can get away with gaslighting and labelling you as stubborn or insubordinate for their own sick / selfish agendas …
Yup...or the company needs to provide a work phone. Threatening with disciplinary actions when you charge your phone at work (stealing company owned electricity) but want you to use your private profile hine for business duties (uninsured, uncompensated) and then in mandatory WFH you don't even receive compensation for the company invading you home space and using your electricity for free....and with an authenticator app on your phone (allow the company all access and management of your devices) they can literally track you everywhere. We should use our phone for 2fa and it went over SMS (was ok with that) , but we weren't allowed to have a phone at our workstation, then they wanted us to go on break (limited time) to go to the lockers to look at the code...that escalated a bit and we could just track system issues. Then they had WFH rolling out with even more authentication, so that you had to go two times an hour, that office workers just kept their phone at the station...there were some complaints from security, only management was allowed, and as the office workers stated "so WFH can have the phone at their side, but the office workers loose 10 min of effective working time to go to their lockers" and it was kinde possible. Had one security guy telling me "we could seize your phone and search it for CST data" and I just responded "then we will have the police in the office as you're not the police and you don't have the right to do anything with the phone"...he just went off. Told my manager if IT forces us to use an authenticator I request a business phone and that all my stored phone numbers for the SMS verification get deleted...since they could just look through my private stuff on my phone without noticing
@@teslatrooper85Seeing as some managers are really of the opinion that "they've put in the hours and efforts back when they were underlings, now they got promoted, that gives them the freedom to delegate the max amount of work", I'm not sure that a promotion is ALWAYS more work and stress.
@@LSeverusPertinaxlmao I never do this shit for my managers and still do fine promotion wise. Why? Because I'm actually good at my job. If you need to asslick to get a promotion you must be a shit worker
@@germantutoring Do they bother or they do TRY to bother their employees? As far as I've been told there are a lot of labor laws around employee's privacy and rights to be off work in Germany. Bothering employees after work is supposed to be illegal.
Fine, you are now on salary, no overtime, and expected to be available 24/7. If you will notice, in the job description, it did say “and other duties as determined by the manager.” This is one of those duties. Capitalism, baby. We own you. Put up with it or be homeless, your call, peon.
@@naomihatfield3015 You can't be expected to be available 24/7 on a salary without any bous for that. "Other duties as assigned" yes, but only during standard working hours.
They tried that where I worked; the union did NOTHING but we told them that we wouldn’t do it so don’t agree to it. But we were a unified group. The union knew enough not to push it.
Same here. I think we've all been there, done that to some extent. Unless you're on the brink of financial Armageddon, there's no good reason to put up with that crap. And maybe not even then. But they always dangle the implied possibility of a "promotion" at some ill-defined future time. I actually had a manager tell me once that "the way you get ahead around here is to go to meetings and work a lot of overtime." IOW - suck ass.
@@WildBikerBill I was salaried at that job , so no OT pay. But, I agree, if you're hourly, work all the OT you can. When I did the contract thing and was paid time and a half over 40, you best believe that I worked every hour of OT that was made available.
Absolutely. Told my Manager that I don't want work related information on my personal phone. I asked what would happen if my phone was lost or stolen and all that company info became available to unathorized folks. 🤔
I still don't get my older coworkers that work from home AFTER office hours. I told our boss, that there is not a chance for me to work after I leave the office. Or when I'm or vacation. Or on sick leave. There are emergensies, but I always get paid for every working minute. Otherwise, my boss knows exactly what is waiting for him. And it's my resignation. And You know what? He respects that. So be bold and set the bounderies!
Everyone has to figure out what works for them. Give and take. I work after hours a little and have emails on my devices, but my employer pays for uni which other employees don’t get.
If they are ambitious people they are more concerned about figuring out ways to make themselves more valuable and necessary to the business in order to get raises and promotions.
The employee is absolutely correct! I’ve fallen for the responding 24/7/365 and it not only stressed me out but affected my family time. You have to be able to separate home and work unless the business is your own- even then, you have to learn time management.
100% agree! I say the same at my work place, I'm not paid to be "on call". Also when applying for the job I didn't agree that you would have access to me at all times. Work is work, home is home 😉
My boss gets mad when I don’t answer when he calls me after hours/ on my days off. I’ve explained to him multiple times that I am NOT on call nor do I have a company paid cell phone therefore I am not obligated to answer his calls.
I just had the new Acting Supervisor be astounded to learn that none of the team choose to do any of our work on our personal cell phones. We were "Nope. Never have, never will. Whatever is going on can wait until one of us are on duty/in the office, using our work laptop."
It’s called paid administrative time. Basically provide your employees with PAT so that any time spent doing company work is being compensated for. If you don’t want to do this because it will cause your employees to work overtime then you can’t complain since you don’t want to pay them. When I use to work for a company that would try to talk to me after hours. I would ask them to tell me what time it is. I would then tell them that I’m recording this because I expect to be paid for my time. I stopped getting after hours calls.
I had a job that I loved I went above and beyond for them even put my life in danger a few times. I did one wrong thing and they fired me. I feel this employee. I will never go that hard again.
I refused to have my work email “portal” access. Worked at that company for 22 years and I don’t believe I ever missed a day that they didn’t contact me for something. Usually it was another employee doing the “dirty work” on calling me.
So I guess I should have said when I got hired that I work 8-5 for this company and 5:01-6:00AM for my family because they’re my other job and if I can’t be there for my other job during this job then this job isn’t going to be there for my family job
Don’t you just love Veronica!?? 🤣 I’m already there somewhat, but I’m going to channel more Veronica into my being, as there’s always room. I’m lucky though because my Boss is also a Veronica, so we rumble along just fine 😃
I know this routine. Had a boss give me a Blackberry (yeah this was years back) so he could "reach me" after hours. He would always email me late at night asking me to do something before the morning for a client. It got bad, and I told him if it is after 8pm wherever I'm at (I traveled) that I will not respond. AND that weekends I will not respond as I needed time with my wife and child. He had a fit (he didn't have any kids) and told me that I needed to be available 24/7. I said fine as long as you increase my pay 25% (minimum) to compensate me for that time and time away from my family. Again had a fit, but backed off. I left a few months later, and stated that the 24/7 on call stuff was ruining my personal life and that I can always find another job with balance to it.
Had a similar discussion with my current boss. Had to explain to him what a root certificate is, why Cisco and Microsoft don't need them on my devices, and that IT can stop licking windows long enough to find a system that is secure without being invasive.
That's not being stubborn lol. where I work, this is NOT allowed. It's considered working and that means they have to pay you for that. We don't even have access to our work email on personal devices.
I was a salaried manager for over a decade. I worked for free way too much over the years. One of my biggest regrets in life. Never payed off, never helped me get a raise promotion and it didn’t even matter on my resume. To this very day, it has not helped me in any way whatsoever.
As a truck driver in the UK, it’s illegal to use a mobile phone whilst you’re driving. So the company made all sign letter to the effect that we wouldn’t be using them whilst doing so. A few days later the transport office tried to contact me. And I declined to take the call, so when I got back to the depot. They asked me why I hadn’t taken to call. I told them that as the company had made us sign that letter. I no longer took any calls from them
Nope. We call millennials lazy because they coopted parenting to iPads, dress inappropriately for work, and think that work hours are when they arrive not when the business opens. Oh, did I rock the boat?
I've been retired for a few years, but I spent the vast majority of my life working in an office and find this series highly entertaining. Luckily I live in a country that has legal restrictions on what an employer can ask of its employees so no one ever asked me to work without pay or equivalent time-off. Then again, at the time of my retirement I had eraned 8 weeks vacation every year, Paternity leave where required, and 1 year Maternity leave to allow for the bonding of mother & child. Here one works to live. Americans live to work.
It doesn’t really make sense that you need to check your emails constantly after hours for work let alone work issues that require you to DO WORK AT HOME!
Your contract states your work times. You'll work during your work times but are not available for work outside of your work times, and they legally have to accept that. Some shady places will bother, nag, coerce you into doing what they want, but if they have you working outside of work hours then I hope you can find a better place to work very soon. If its possible to address this at work that may be an option, any reasonable employer should be able to see how ridiculous that demand is when it's pointed out. But many are not reasonable :/
All of these little ploys by the company, via managers, amount to wage theft. It's why CEOs get huge bonuses and salary packages and employees have to work 2-3 jobs to put food on the table.
@shaunhunterit342 I found one channel which had just the video of Veronica with the air horn, so I don't think it was actually her. The longer video was even better, I won't spoil the ending.
If you have work related content on your phone or computer, if there is an investigation or legal action, they can confiscate your phone and computer and you will HAVE to unlock it for the cops/lawyers, and they are not required to return it in a timely manner.
Hundred percent right, so long as Veronica never ever uses or even looks at her personal cell phone at work, never makes or receives a personal call on the work phone, never uses the office computer for any sort of personal email or other communication. Never browses the Internet for anything other than business whilst at work. If all of those are true then Veronica is hundred percent right.
YES!!!! I told my former boss that, if she wanted me to use a cell phone for work, especially outside of work hours, she could provide one for that purpose and pay me every time I got a notification. She said that I should always be reachable by email. I said, I am (available), in the office, between the hours of 8 and 5, Monday through Friday, except when I'm out sick or on vacation. Note: I'm still working; she is no longer one of our employees!
"Yeah, Janet.... as far as I'm concerned, this place only exists during the period when I'm clocked in. See, 'employment' is selling a portion of my life to this company, and I'll be damned if I'm going to give you a single minute more than you pay for. If you have trouble comprehending that, it is YOUR PROBLEM, not mine."
We have a law where I live that says employers cannot bother you outside work hours (unless it’s in your contract). Fortunately, my workplace is a 9-5 kind of place, and they don’t bother us outside work.
It’s like if you’re working in manufacturing and a machine craps out after normal hours you can pay extra for a call out or wait until the next morning. No mechanic is getting out to your factory just because ‘it’s appreciated’
I have to have my work email on my personal phone just because it’s the only way my employer will notify faculty that they are going to have an unscheduled closing of the building (for example snow storms/ hurricanes/ or other weather related hazards ). However I don’t ever reply to emails after hours.
Worked for two companies with the email apps...opted out on both companies..not on my personal phone and I don't work 24/7, I am not paid to work 24/7 I have a private life...nothing I do is an emergency...it can handled the next business day..or someone else who no life can handle it...and DONT EVEN THINK OF BOTHERING ME WHEN I AM ON VACATION...I don't bother you..I handle it so that You can enjoy your time off..I expect the same!
I worked the counter of a convenience store and the owner got upset that I and another employee would use the stores land line to call him or any other business related things. We are close to a state line so a lot of those calls were to a diff area code and cost money. We simply told the owner to supply cell phones? In my case I don't own a cell phone and never will and the other employee did not want the stores whatever business on her cell phone. I dont work there any more and she is still making long distance calls.
