Same. She didn't even apologize for what she did. She just said "I guess you were lied to too." I was like "That doesn't make up for how you acted before amber!!!" And Mark just accepts it
@@xmant8842 I was also thinking about horrid she is to bring that in. As if there is any bloody similarity between being lied to protect her for five months as opposed to his dad lying to him his entire life and getting traumatically beaten to near death. What a slag.
@@seanrutherford728 don't forget how omni-man killed countless people in front of him and plowed his body through hundreds of train passangers to prove a point. I mean, that's not even remotely relatable to her situation.
This girl just watched her boyfriend save her and everyone else from a murderous cyborg. Then when he came back as his regular self, instead of being grateful to him for saving her life as well as everyone else's, she PRETENDED to think he ran away and got mad at him for it.
And yet so many people are calling us crazy for thinking amber was wrong for that. She has every right to break up with Mark if she wants. But it's how she did it that was trash.
The scene where they showed everyone watching online omni-man beating the hell out of invincible, she was shocked because she can’t believe mark was getting his ass whooped instead of apologising to her
The fact she acted like he was a coward running away but knew he was there saving lives is what pisses me off. The writing on that scene is just stupid as hell.
I understand why she’s pissed off at the start, who wouldn’t? Mark appeared to be a careless dick who didn’t care for her, a liar, but when she revealed she knew all along that fucked everything up, if she knew why did she scream at him at the University? If she knew why didn’t she talk to him? If she just said she wasn’t ready to be with him knowing he is a superhero or some shit then ok, but why put all the blame on him? That little twist could have been managed a lot better.
@@alexp.7068 Id have much preferred that. Her character was actually fine back when I thought she didnt know. Now that its revealed she knew for quite a while, I cant stand her character. It completely changed the whole tone for me.
Why do screenwriters always create female character who are all about nagging the protagonist, foiling him and giving him a hard time for absolutely no reason? Are they trying to make the viewers irritated on purpose? All TV shows have the same trope.
Fair. Side note: not a chance that asteroid was gonna destroy a continent. Seeing the size of it makes me think it would’ve been mostly burned up on entry. Could’ve potentially messed up a small town for sure.
@@ianconness11 The size of Texas... It was CLEARLY stated the asteroid was the size of FUCKING TEXAS STATE it would´ve blowned a small country AT LEAST the f* uck you talking a bout?! And even if it was not, WICH IT IS the case, saving a small town from getting busted is FAR more important than making soup, and she KNEW that and knew that he was super hero all along as she said it herself, case closed.
" Think Amber, think! If I revealed my secret identity to you, you could have been hurt, or interrogated for information! I had no idea you already knew, and that has led us here! But what will you have if I can't save you because you want me to put you over others? " " The soup kitchen. I'd still have the soup kitchen. "
2 things I don’t understand in life 1: ...Life 2: Why you’re not watching my videos rn even though I spend hours editing them (my fault for the self promo but...)
Spoiler from episode 7: I loved when she sees omni man cut immortal in half she's all scared and huddled up. This the shit mark deal with and she still complain
Amber KNEW he was Invincible when they were at the college, KNEW he saved their lives and his Best friend Will, and still gave him a hard ass time for no reason and was down to clown with a random dude she JUST met because she was pretending to be mad that Mark abandoned them 🤦♂️ Amber’s a clown.
And she gaslit him into that party while Will's boyfriend was kidnapped and cyborged. Like literally knew his identity and said Fuck Will and Will's relationship
Plot twist. She didn't know and just said that to appear smarter. If you look at how she behaved through the season she loves being in control and to show off, i wouldn't be surprised that's her whole reason for helping in the soup kitchen. So once Mark came out she realized how stupid she was to not figure it out so she just said she knew, i mean it's a world with superheroes so it's not that weird or shocking of an idea.
"You're never there for me!" "I've been saving lives, including yours that one time you gave me shit for running off!" "I knew that!" "Then wtf is the problem?!"
The *only* reason they didn't get together originally was because Amber swooped in when she thought Mark & Eve might become something. And before that, she had an interest in that bully dude, but didn't wanna give him the time of day because she didn't like whatever his original approach was(which we don't see, btw). I almost didn't catch it at first, but it kinda clicked and I rewatched the scene to be sure. Before we see them arguing, he had approached her because one of *her friends told him she had a thing for him* and she does not deny it, but doesn't like *how* he's going about it. We have no idea what all was said *before* then.
It all would've been tolerable if they didnt have the scene or her getting mad at the uni like he abandoned them. It was almost vindictive when she came back after he got the shit beaten out of him by his dad and tried to comfort him after all the stress she put him through for saving lives. God DAMN.
They tried to change Amber to avoid the "How dumb is Lois Lane?" situation which never figure out Clark Kent is Superman, but failing badly to do it properly. However, in the comic which 500 years later timeline, I am glad Mark is with Eve since Amber would be long dead and Mark would be alone for thousands of years into the future and the "Think Mark Think" would be more dramatic and more regretful.
I think the main problem was that the writers didn’t portray her as in the wrong or a toxic girlfriend when she revealed she knew. They were just trying to subvert expectations and still portray it as Mark’s fault.
I actually thought after the beating and heartbreak of his fathers when she came back around he’d grow a pair and tell her to fuck off. So next season it could start his and Eve relationship. But looks like we got another season of her toxic manipulation to watch
ngl... i hope eve gets with invincible sometime... they have better chemistry imo. and then rex and amber can keep each other's company. they both toxic mfs
@@mysteryjunkie9808 Tbh, Mark aint ready for Eve yet, maybe after this second season they dive into it for the 3rd season, but he aint ready for her yet, they both care for eachother but Mark needs to better himself as a boyfriend before he goes on and does what he does with Eve
@@akcsamiru she's a lot better in the comic. She understood why he was always late and was actually excited to be dating a superhero. They still break up, but they end on good terms unlike here.
@@JoeFanik ya. I read a bit of the comics and she seems much more reasonable. But since we are in 2021 they had to change race and she had to be one of the main characters RIGHT AWAY
@@TheRolling123 Sort of, but that was a good guy as well. He used mark to stop Metal head, when the rock guy (Titan) become the new boss there, he did as promised and changed that place for good.
Amber: "you lied to me" Mark: "I'm mean technically you lied to me by not telling me you knew I was Invincible while yelling at me for abandoning you which you knew I didn't do because I just saved YOUR life 5 seconds ago. I am the hero that saved you and you yelled at me for leaving as Mark so I could come save your life"
Yeah but Amber did the exact same shit. Mark never asked if she knew he was invincible. She just kept the illusion she didn’t know and omitted the truth.
@@GyroZeppeli90 Actually I hated her more because of the fact that she remained angry at Mark even after he told her about his identity. Plus I don't care how hot any bitch can be, I ain't tellin' them I'm a masked superhero after three weeks of dating.
@@WillsWorld29 i mean she is "Chichi i have to go with my son and train, an unknown threat is nearing earth and its far stronger than mine" Chichi: "i don't care! Gohan needs to go to school!"
Facts on Ambers thought process: 1. Know your BF is a superhero saving lives for weeks 2. Know that if he ever chooses innocent lives over being with you, you're going to dump him 3. Know that even though you already know he's lying to you, wait for him to save innocent lives and lie to you again, then you're going to dump him 4. Stare at your watch and wait for steps 2-3 to happen because your bf is the hero humanity deserves 5. In the meantime go to a party and flirt with some dude and make you BF so distracted that Williams "BF" gets turned into a fucking cyborg 6. After your BF bravely reveals his secret identity to you, you don't give a shit because of step 1 7. After your BF has the his entire reality crumble around him, and his father, the man your BF idolizes more than anyone, beats him within an inch of his life, you're going to compare him lying to you about his secret identity, to his father lying to him about being a race conquering murderer. None of this is hyperbole. This is legit how Amber handled every situation. I agree that Mark should not have strung her along, but the dude gets his 1st GF the same time he gets godly superpowers? give the man a break.
Yeah, the right thing for her to do would be to admit to him that she knows he’s Invincible, then if he denied it still, she’d have every reason to not trust him and even dump him, but with how she handled the situation, she’s guilty of the exact same shit she’s mad at him for.
It’d be hilarious if there was an alternate comic where him and the Cinder Block guy didn’t save millions of lives in Invincible because Amber wanted Mark to feed shitty food to homeless people.
@@thesniperhendogxxx2271 no it's still dumb...she straight up tryna manipulate dude into telling her his personal business before. he's ready key word he.
Amber: "you ran away and didn't help us when we got attacked at the college" Also Amber: "yeah I knew you were Invincible when he suddenly appeared to save us from getting attacked at the college"
Fr. I've recently just finished season 1 of the show and by the end of episode 7 I had those exact same thoughts. To be honest before, I was actually sympathetic with Amber and her relationship issues with Mark. But that all instantly nosedived during the reveal. Poor Mark. 🥺 Good thing he moved on to Eve.👍
@@Double_0_7_Strings I mean, he's got a choice between a girl that wants him to think of her first before the literally dying world or a hot redhead who actually tries to connect with him and can fight beside him as an equal.
This scene with Amber almost made me agree with Omniman in his last episode speech about how humans just ain't shit when it comes to grand scheme of things.
I fully agree humans don't matter in the grand scheme of things, earth is just a random celestial body in our solar system, our solar system is just one of many in the milky way galaxy, our galaxy is just part of the local group, which is only a small part of the Virgo supercluster, which is only part of the Laniakea supercluster which is only a tiny part of the observable universe, and then at the low end the entire universe is at least twice as big as what we can see and if the theory of cosmic inflation is accurate then that puts it as much as 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times larger than the observable universe, even excluding the unknown, just the observable part is so unbelievably massive that its extremely arrogant and ignorant to think you or even our entire race matters in the grand scheme of things, we could have neighbors in the clostest solar system and unless they choose to actively observe us we wouldn't even be able to affect them, much less things in the rest if the universe
Realistically we haven't been told enough about viltrumites to actually know whether he's 'right' or not. We know some dark history, sure, but they seemingly all just agreed as a species 'aight, lets turn darwin into a deity and get this shit on' as it wasn't described as a conquest or revolution or genocide but rather all out combat between all viltrumites. Also, it evidently worked as they *_are_* the strongest things in the galaxy. We know they don't *_seem_* to enslave planets, are okay with even interspecies offspring like Mark so long as its between 'close enough' species, etc. It's possible that it is a Captain America Civil War situation where, sure, Tony is "right", but Cap is standing against it on hardline idealism, even if he knows the practical consequences will be way worse, i.e. "Its better to be an outlaw trying to do good against the law than a hero trying to do good in spite of the law". So even if Tony is technically correct it's the best option pragmatically speaking, Cap refuses it on idealist grounds. Similarly Mark could take the stance that humanity has a right to develop on it's own, even if Viltrumite tech would technically save way more lives. On the other hand, despite us having zero concrete evidence or examples of how they rule everyone in-universe talks about them like they're absolutely tyrannical dictators. To be fair, some of them do *_act_* like murderous assholes, but even they do seem to generally value life and not just kill for the sake of it, and these are explicitly generals and military leaders. Its kinda weird just how little we actually know about them tbh.
I honestly wished Mark would’ve said this to Amber. Her arguments were so vain, stupid, inconsiderate and just downright entitled. Superheroes are not required to reveal their identities, even to those closest to them. It’s a very personal secret.
No one is entitled to know another one's secret. Of course there are things that you should not hide from your partner, personal secrets are personal secrets.
it’s not just personal but it’s for his protection, his friends protection, and his families protection. and they’ve been together for a few months, that’s a lot of trust to ask.
Very true. She was so mad that he didn't tell her right away. Like why? You bearly met him and expects to know? I hope in the future series, they break up and mark has the last to say how inconsiderate she was.
its more about protecting those you love... as soon as a villain learns you have a S.O.... its game over. They will leverage them against you. Superman... all powerful, until lex threatens Lois Lane. Secret Identities must be maintained to protect.
@@jaymasterflash9396 They do... in the Comic Book, Amber is a side character of very little importance, and is quickly forgotten about and replaced. After Season 1 she should never be in the show again, if they stay true to the books. Atom Eve is Marks True love.
@@abdoulayek634 It’s called Invincible, it’s on Amazon Prime Video. It’s really fucking good. It’s basically a teenage superhero coming-of-age story, but with great characters, great plot, and most importantly, excessive amounts of gore and violence.
Amber: I needed you to be there for me. Mark: I’ve been trying, but the safety of the planet matters more. I nearly lost my friend to a Frankenstein zombie gang, stopped a crazy geezer from causing an earthquake, and had a hole blown in my gut by outer space Tony the Tiger
Honestly, all of Amber's actions could be redeemed from a writing standpoint if the other characters at least realized Amber is messed up instead of just being like, "yep, you're a bad boyfriend, Mark."
Bro the fact that they weren't officially broken up and she went to flirt with a random guy at that party... She only stopped when he said he had a girlfriend
I'm actually surprised she even did forgive him. And of course, it's not like we ever get a scene where she at least quietly says to *herself* , "Maybe I was wrong to put him through this."
Amber: “You didn’t tell me you was a superhero” Also Amber: “I knew you was a superhero for weeks now” This the same chick that blackmailed a bully to give mark her number, broke up with mark when he got his chest bashed in and was in the hospital, then went out to go hookup with a random dude from a party just to stop herself when he said he had a girlfriend, then compared him to his father who sent him to the hospital, then when he went to see her she didn’t show she was concerned when he had bruises all on his face. What made the scene worse is how the show makes it out to where Mark was wrong and Amber was in the right.
I don't think they did. I never had the feeling that she was right. Maybe Mark had this feeling and felt guilty about it, but it's very clear that she's a narcissist individual and she has no consideration for him. She's a bad person, and I think it was well written. Her actions speak louder, and her bad actions were clearly showed, so I'm sure the intention was to show her as bad without making it super obvious, like a real narcissic would be perceived.
@@lordadamz6036 i agree, i feel like what happens is that mark cant see the big picture and he end up feeling like its all his fault instead of understanding hes in a horrible relationship, something very fitting to his age and stuff, amber is his first gf and all
@@lordadamz6036 that's not fair to call her a bad person. I'm all aboard the hate Amber train but we can't call her a bad person. She's far more nuanced than that, as are most people. She has plenty of actions that show she's also a compassionate person that sticks up for and helps other people and is not _just_ a narcissistic bitch.
@@that.ll_do_pig Every person has nuance, even bad ones, that doesn't change anything. Amber is a bad person for being an abusive partner and self-centered narcissist.
As dumb as this scene was, it's kinda realistic that you could be out there helping people, fighting crime, saving the planet from aliens and your girl would still find reasons to be upset.
Mark - Saves dozens of people - Nearly killed by aliens - Saved his best friend from a psycho who turns humans into cyborgs - Nearly killed by Battle Beast, who is one of the strongest characters in the series - Gets beaten to near death by his own dad who tried to take over the world Amber: You don’t care about me!
He was a bad boyfriend in some ways. He was often late to important events and constantly told her that he would be better even though he had no real way of insuring that. It would've been reasonable if Amber didn't wanna date him because she wanted a boyfriend that was present, not often in danger, etc. All the things that make dating a superhero kinda terrible. In this scene though that doesn't really seem to be her issue. It's about Mark 'lying' about his identity and she makes it sound like her issue is that he kept being a superhero rather than that he lead her on about what he could give to the relationship. The things she chooses to be upset about are baffling.
@@WolframiteWraith maybe so but he was off saving the fucking WORLD from aliens, protecting astronauts and she is mad that he couldn’t give people soup.
He was a terrible boyfriend. Just because it wasn't entirely his fault for being late doesn't change that. He obviously couldn't afford to be in a relationship with a normal girl, and he should have ended it. Instead he lied and strung her along even though it was never gonna work out. So yeah, he treated her like shit. But Amber knowing he was Invincible just means she was ALSO being a terrible girlfriend. And she wasn't saving lives so yeah, making her know his secret identity turns her into a total asshat.
I feel like amber could have seen the footage of battlebeast beating the absolute shit outta mark and she would have just been like “well, maybe if you were where you were supposed to be, this wouldn’t have happened”
She's a fucking tweak bro, like honestly he should've dated a girl who also had powers because atleast that girl would understand. And the worst part is, she was the one who blackmailed the one dude into giving him her number and she's mad over him being a good person.
"I know you're mad I didn't help you, but that's because I'm Invincible" "I know, but I'm mad you lied" "I lied because I've only known you for a couple months, I didn't even tell my best friend" "Leave 😠" I get that they're teenagers but c''mon that's wild lol
Worst part is, even when she "Forgave" him, she still gave him a passive aggressive shot at him about keeping his secret identity and family safe. Seriously, she's such a garbage character for that bullshit...
Reminds me of the She-Ra reboot where the narcissistic, gaslighting, emotionally abusive girl with anger management issues gets together with the person she's betrayed countless times, with no real redemption to speak of, and people applaud that relationship too
@@boitumelonoge9615 I think what he means is since LGBTQ+ relationships are so popular in media, that everyone doesn't see it as a toxic relationship because it's gay. The explained kind of sucks but it's like if you want two characters to date so bad, when they do, you'll excuse everything they do to each other, healthy or not. That's the best way I can put it.
Hey anyone remember that part where she went to the party and looked like she was going to make a move on the frat guy until he mentioned he had a girlfriend?
Not like that stopped her before. Remember when she went after Mark only because it sounded like he was dating Eve? She nipped that at the fucking bud, she only goes after guys that are already into other people
Either they're contrarians or fake woke feminazis. It's clear she's very toxic, if they can't see that, they have very weird ideas of what a relationship should be
Ok I’m gonna start an argument(please w one person, I cannot respond to 40 people). Mark was very clearly busy. He was juggling his home life, school, a part time job, and RISKING HIS LIFE CRIME FIGHTING. So why the hell did he want a relationship too? He clearly can’t balance it all since his grades are already low, so why did he agree to get with Amber. ESPECIALLY after he missed every single important date to her(he begged to be given another chance)? IMO he should have sat her down and said “Amber, I really do like you but I’m to busy to be in a relationship right now” and made up an excuse that he needed to get his grades up for college or focus on getting a full time job.
You can't expect someone to reveal such a big personal secret so early in the relationship. Amber was being too unreasonable. Also it doesn't make any sense for her to call Mark a coward after knowing he literally just saved his friends life. Mark shouldn't have gone back with her.
But him lying, and lying, and lying and lying again is okay... both are wrong. Him for using revealing his identity as a get out of jail free card and her for want him to come clean as opposed to make the convo in the first place.
@@nonameneeded2943 Well at least now when Mark is late or bails on her she can't be mad at him because she willingly went back to him...even though when he finally told her she didn't care so what exactly changed for her to want to go back in the first place?
@@graceli1903 her complains hold validity regardless of knowledge she had since they revolve around how mark treated and saw her in the relationship and not about his availability
@@lifeline.6144 No, she _is_ that bad. She's holding Mark emotionally hostage. I mean, she literally knew he was Invincible and still chastised him for "leaving" her to die at the hands of that cyborg.
You can tell the writers themselves knew how bad they fucked up, because their way to address this is to just downplay her so much that she basically has no bearing on the story beyond "girlfriend." Because, yeah, you DON'T walk this back. You can't. So their solution seems to just be keep her as a background character who doesn't get a say in anything until they naturally have them break up.
@@ratchetexperience8379 i was just saying that amber stood up for him in beginning of the show when mark gets picked by the bully and i don't think she would be a bully to him since there just friends. But i agree that she was a terrible person cirtizing him alot leanding him on i get it but i didn't really like her at all either matter of fact im glad there just friends they were terrible love interests
God I hated that. I get they were trying to subvert the idea of the love interest being just completely clueless but they just ended up making her a complete bitch. Like "No, I'm a strong woman, I don't care what you have to say you're wrong because you didn't immediately trust me with your deepest personal secret."
Like, 6 months, thats maybe take you to my house lvs of trust, but not tell you my most personal secret lvs of trust, his secret identity is literally the only thing between battle beast and mark in a normal day.
@@YoYo-uh3xj it wasn’t THAT bad, look I hate woke trash messing up shows and movies but invincible did it where it’s not really in your face but more showing you from across the street.
fr she is literally abusive using him when hes traumatized walking back into his life like you didn't just dump him. like dude got you a rock from mars, like fuckin mars and shes like "you didn't feed some dirty bums"
@@outerheaven2k7 I make skits just like Griffy. Ik I might not be at his level but I bet 100% it’ll make you laugh. If it doesn’t then I can respect that and u free to come back to this comment to tell me
its kinda like if there is a sniper with his crosshair on your girls head and he tells you, you have to lie to her otherwise he shoots. you explain this to her and she goes "doesnt matter, you lied"
To add insult to injury, the show continues to paint mark as the bad guy in this scenario. will and eve both reinforced what we heard from amber’s dumbsss lol
Do you think the writers were expecting the narcissistic "feminist" crowd would watch their show or something? Or were they intentionally trying to race bait and cause arguments, like it's one thing to race swap but then it's another thing entirely when the character you race swapped has a totally different personality and acts like a total jackass almost like the writers are trying to paint black people as bad or something
Remember when she got mad at Mark for "leaving" when he turned into invincible to save his bud? She knew and she got pissy at him for "leaving" even knowing that he didn't leave. BRUH
Yea after she revealed she knew for awhile, I thought back to that scene, and that ruined her character for me. I could understand slightly being upset that he didn't tell her that he was invincible but the fact she got mad at him for leaving to go save his friend while knowing he was invincible ruined it for me
@@catiasantos9470 yup, invincible durability, immortality, super strength and speed, the power of flight + the power to create anything, basically make their kids deities.
Season 1 Amber: "I don't care that you almost died, my EVENING is in danger!" Season 2, episode 7 Amber: "Now that I'm in danger, maybe this is a problem."
@@A.R.DaVision They were starting to work around the conflicting schedules thing. Then Amber realized what danger was, and it wasn't missing out on a date at the soup kitchen. Worse yet, she doesn't think "Oh, this must be how Mark felt every time he was hospitalized." It's only how it affects *her.*
@crazyinsane500 but doesn't matter she'd be in constant danger. omni-man went as he did because he was the strongest being on earth. Mark is not close to omni man. Anissa and levy have found him without his identity exposed but some friend or loved one.
@@astrovic_882 Invincible. It's on Amazon Prime video. ( Meaning it's only available for Amazon Prime members). It's funny because I added it to my watch list a few days ago.
And then the rest of the characters in the show kept dogging on Mark calling him a terrible boyfriend like Amber was a perfect ray of sunshine who could do no wrong.
@@michaeliv284 No. Rex lost both girls, and destroyed a friendship. This girl pursued Mark. She's no friend, they have no bond. There is nothing about her that justifies his unreasonable attachment to her. Mark is doing it to himself.
"Amber, I'm Invincible." "Oh my, Mark. I had no clue. I wish you could have told me sooner. Thank you so much for putting the state of the planet above our relationship. I understand your important duties with the other superheroes you work with now. If I had known about this sooner I wouldn't have trust issues, Mark. Thanks for letting me know." The good ending
Hell you can keep some of the drama in. "You're Invincible? that explains a lot but I don't think I can handle that kind of relationship, let's break up (and be friends) or (start over)
I wonder what that could mean?? Like a put a hole in your roof, hold you in front a train, I mean granted it's all terrible but I'm just curious how terrible.
The worst part is Amber was a really cool character up until the point. I actually really felt sorry for her and really wanted Mark to hurry up and reveal his identity to her and this is what we got
Agreed, I thought she was great and understood what she was going through and that the situation they were in was neither of their faults, it just happened to be the case. But then she dropped that bombshell and everything became her fault.
Disagree. Amber was a super disagreeable person from the start. Her character is basically switching between judging and scowling. She seems like she's going to make herself and everyone around her miserable. What part of that is girlfriend material? What part of that is even remotely attractive?
