When Marnie Was Gay 

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Gay Grandma

truuuuuu

Ok but fry was his own grandpa

Bi granny.

LOL

Same

Perfect of perfection.

this comment!

Little secret your grandma knows but your therapist doesn't.

@Bogo Bogo I think it pretty much started at 100 😆

PLS😭

😂😂😂😂😂CAN'T FUCKING READ WITHOUT LAUGHING!!!

I thought they would make Marnie dead, but that she died at a young age or something and was going through “life” as a ghost. I actually thought they might have made it gay ;-;

😭

@@isilikespeopleandthings no that was definitely romantic love, in all of marnie’s memories anna took the place of marnie’s husband, ya know the person marnie would be romantically in love with

it’s literally anna reliving her grandpa’s memories bruh and you can literally hear marnie calling anna by the name “kazuhiko” which is the grandpa’s name also studio ghibli are just following the source material lol they didn’t do none-

At least one of them got a gay awakening

OMG😭😭😭

NAURRR😭

🤣

Hahhahahhahahha y e s-

Please tell me this is a joke

Damn, Korrasami, Catdora and Lumity really changed the game.

honestly i think that in the specific case of ghibli, it's just fair. miyazaki frequently puts a boy and a girl in the same room, with a lot of tension, and then proceeds to never make them actually romantic. AND in from up poppy hill, they suspect they're siblings, and at one point, they even say it doesn't matter.

to be completely fair tho, in from up poppy hill, they are not actual siblings in the end

Not so intensly with the bonding (because its a straight relationship) but Star Wars did something similar.

No, it makes sense to me! It was worded beautifully. I saw the movie today for the first time, but I felt the same way

this is how i felt! i'm a gay man. it's almost like the scene in which anna almost shares her art, but then it's interrupted. but it feels almost more cynical because i know the reason it isn't explicitly gay in the movie is because we are not allowed to be explicitly gay in movies like this. and the premise of the movie trying to help people like me except not people like ME because i'm gay.

Seeing it as romance and ignoring the familial aspect, it was and still is one of my ideal romances. Like, i want that for myself!

@@akiraagreste359Or maybe the story was told exactly as they wanted to, and you and so many others are projecting your own identity onto characters- as literally everyone does- but no one but you is you, so nothing is going to be an exact match to how you identify? but don’t you think it’s just as wrong to impose your preferences upon even fictional characters about their identities (especially _children,_ who should not be being sexualized at all), just as it is wrong when heteronormative people impose their idea of sexuality upon those who don’t identify with it? gay people are not persecuted in america anymore- it is more common for gay people to be represented than heteronormative people nowadays, and there isn’t some agenda of suppression anymore- *quite* the opposite! trust that people are telling the stories they want to tell, and that it isn’t your right to dictate the sexualities of other people, even if you related to them more than you discovered there was actually basis for- which happens with real life relationships all the time; why do you think people break up? they assume/project aspects of their own desire upon people and don’t accept who they actually are. Also, familial love is not ‘less than’ and if sex is the only thing you’re actually looking for, _that isn’t love._ If someone truly loves you, whether that leads to physically intimacy or not, that love is reaching your heart and is something to desire either way. I don’t understand everyone here acting like the love of family is somehow less of a connection than the love of a romantic significant other; in fact this movie itself is the proof of that! Since obviously you fell for it! It’s just shown you your presuppositions were incorrect: that a familial relationship can transcend the measly forms and definitions you had imposed upon it.

​@@highfae no body was making it sexual, I think youre just seeing things

That film needs a video too lmao

oh my god yeah !!! didnt the two kids in that movie also say at one point that they didnt even care that they were related lol

@@me_ish she says she didn't care but have a literal breakdown relieving moment when her mother tells that he wasn't hers. talk about 'idc'

RIGHT??

YES

Thank you for your service.

Eyy same!

fiquei tiste =,(

Exacto. I was shouting about When Marnie was Here having girls in love @ my friend. Fiquei mesmo desapontada .

@@artybluegirl 😭😭😭

THAT MOVIE IS THE REASON WHY IM QUEER ISTG

Fr tf

Honestly it's been so long since I've watched that movie lil me just accepted it. I'll have to rewatch it now with a new perspective.

Sounds like the usual corporate "intervention" from higher ups

I knew there was a reason for that to be my fav Tinkerbell movie as a kid

it can be a gay movie if we just cut like the last 20 mins or sum

@@catastrophique yeah.

I stayed to watch the whole movie with a thought she was gay 😌

I thought the blue kid was a boy

same

Frrr bish

@jauxro, I love ur profile picture. LUMITY for life!

I think the video might have deserved an examination of japanese four act structure (Kishōtenketsu), because lots of ghibli stories follow that pattern and it's used for stories that aren't primarily driven by conflict per se - but more by evolving situations revealing character. It also seems like a useful framework for slice of life/cosy storytelling.

What u mean with "blew up my life"?

@@lkx5257 you're the kind of person who as a child pointed at fat people in grocery stores and yelled "why is that woman so big?"

@@gabriellegoodwin4422 damn In Retrospect kinda true lol

As we all should

As he should

Damn this made me feel old

@@infinityentity as you should

I am also extremely salty. Lmao I had claimed the movie and everything for my representation and then NO 😤

Your comments re Robinson's relationship with her mother are accurate, and that quote is actually taken from a newspaper article (The Guardian. Hannah Carter. 29th September 1969.) However, if you take the time to do some deep research you'll learn that Yonebayashi decided to stay as close to the source material, i.e. the book, as possible, hence the somewhat flowery language between Anna and Marnie. Furthermore, these declarations of love between the two girls is typical for the era in which the book was written and in no way does it imply lesbian tendencies in either character. I have personally interviewed Robinson's daughter, who made it clear that she disapproves of any imposition onto the source material of a 'queer' theme, as her mother never intended such an interpretation. Any such interpretation is shallow and simply exposes the interpreter's predisposed bias. There is absolutely no queer subtext in any of Robinson's notes and early draft I was privileged to be given access to. In short, Anna is not, nor has she ever been or will ever be gay. To claim otherwise is not only a disservice to the author and the original material, it is also insulting. One last point, which any fan of Ghibli's catalogue should know, is that Ghibli has never defined its characters by their sexuality. In fact Ghibli goes to great lengths to avoid such. Hence its works are wholesome and intended to encourage children to develop themselves through mental self-exploration and hard work.

​@landscapedetective4064 people are allowed to have their own interpretations. an author may state that their idea differs from audience interpretation, but to say that stating ones own perceived meaning is an insulting imposition is harsh. it may not have been intentionally queer and time may have changed the general perception of the language used, but it made me feel seen and i truly believe my perspective is just as valid as any other (just maybe not as aligned with authorial intentions haha).

@landscapedetective4064 Saying any queer interpretation is “disservice” and “insulting” sounds incredibly accusatory when many of the reviews in this very video show that “confused” is a far better fitting and compassionate description. You yourself said many of the declarations of love between the two girls in the movie were “typical of the era”, and since this book was not released in this era, people would naturally not be aware of that and just make the mistake of seeing it as romantic because it would be in this era. Many people are unaware that this work was based on a book where the character is based on the author’s mother, and without the knowledge you have, anyone could easily make the mistake of seeing the relationship as being romantic. I think you must either be very attached to this work and your frustration that people aren’t getting the message that you understand the work to actually be about is leading you to lash out, and while I understand your frustration, it’s a bit cruel to be so harsh in judging other people for their misinterpretations of a work, especially when you know you have more information than them. You must be aware that getting to interview the author and even seeing an early draft is a level of insight not even average fans of the book have gotten, and railing against people without taking that into account is a bit extreme. Your last bit about Ghibli movies not defining characters by their sexualities also seems to come with the misunderstanding that by reading this movie as gay, people are obsessed with defining characters by their sexualities. It’s not that fans who think this is gay are just obsessed with defining the characters through sexuality, it’s more like because we associate the flowery language with romance, and they use it a lot, it ends up coming off as very romantic for those not in the know about the era centric language. People’s insistence about how gay it is is directly proportional to how many romantic comments they think it has. Lastly, it’s a bit odd to bring up how Ghibli doesn’t define it’s characters by it’s sexualities and is as a result, wholesome, because it 1) implies sexualities and their portrayal are inherently unwholesome and 2) just isn’t true? Plenty of Ghibli movies feature characters’ attraction to each other serving to move the plot along. Just going off the top of my head there’s Whisper of the Heart, The Cat Returns, Ponyo, Howl’s Moving Castle, and Princess Mononoke. It also seems like a big simplification to say it’s works are intended to help children with mental self exploration and learning hard work. I wouldn’t say Ghibli is super edgy, but you’re describing it’s catalogue almost like it’s Disney when a lot of it’s movies focus on things like genocide and war. There are plenty of Ghibli movies not like that, but you’re kind of acting like those are the only Ghibli movies out there.

​@@landscapedetective4064 I can tell you are very passionate about the book and Ghibli in general, but honestly this response is just strange. I never said Anna IS gay. Nor did I say it was Ghibli's intention to include any queer subtext in the film. When I first watched the film (with no prior knowledge of the plot or source material) I interpreted the relationship between Anna and Marnie as mildly romantic until the ending was revealed. It's just a subjective interpretation based on how the characters interacted in the film. Everyone can have their own subjective interpretations of art, and moreover can change these interpretations when they have more information. I do not see how these explorations are in any way insulting to the source material or author. Even if the film is very close to the book, it is still a different entity. And art is subjective after all - you can't control how people respond to art.

@@adele131the Tanabata festival was an analog to Anna’s experience with Marnie. In the Tanabata festival mythos, two lovers are separated by a river. Why include that in this film if Anna’s connection with Marnie didn’t feel romantic? Even Marnie’s was. Anna was living the memories of her grandfather after all.

Yeah, that is something most people who aren't familiar with Japanese culture miss: the dynamics of how things that signal your difference from the 'average' Japanese person can be used against you. Anna having blue eyes means she has to have some non-Japanese heritage and would likely get her treated differently. It is interesting because by calling Nobuko fat, she is also shifting the focus of 'who isn't properly Japanese' to an area where Nobuko would be seen as falling short of the ideal.

But fat girls and women are extremely harassed and dehumanised too, in Japanese society. And seen as less than. I absolutely hate movies that take people that are oppressed and dehumanised and make their pain unimportant. She is just a side character and this contributes to real world shit. Anna is the protagonist and redeemed, we are made to feel for her, identify with her. Not so with Nobuko. This shit is bigoted and it is the only Ghibli movie I actively despise.

10/10 can confirm. I’m half Japanese and grew up in a mostly white area. All they did all the time was nit pick how I’m like or unlike white or Japanese people. I never did fit into either group. It did not help my social anxiety and depression at the time but as an adult I’ve healed.

@@thedanespeaks just cause the fat character is a side character in a movie unrelated to that struggle, the movie is bigoted? The movie treats what Anna says to that girl as terrible thing to say and then it moves in cause this is a story about a mentally distressed girl getting over her trauma not about her learning to stop calling fat people pigs. Nobuko is a plot device but that doesn’t mean that her depiction is bigoted it just means she’s not the focus

I saw the movie yesterday, a french subbed version, and the dialogue was harsher and had more racist undertones - certainly I don't remember the blue eyes being described as beautiful - just peculiar, and almost like a stranger - however I don't speak japanese, so I'm at a loss at to which interpretation is more accurate. Not that it diminishes much the overall good intentions of the girl, it mostly intensifies the clumsiness of the attempt at connection and heightens the trigger for aggression on anna's part.

Yes although I can't agree. What about plants? Plants are way better.

@@kaos8728 I have to admit plants are pretty great, but what about imagination and stories? Elite. Especially old mythological stories alight with fantasy and magic- think faerie myths involving trickery, magic and not to mention an abundance of forest shrubbery 🌳✨

@@eternalelune2858 Stories and myths are great aswell. Also cats.

Fellow aromantic, I had a good laugh. While we don't experience "romantic" love, we can and do love friends and family and pets and "Red Dead Redemption II"

honestly as a fellow aromantic i feel so happy that they acknowledge us cause we’re often ignored yk?? also i agree imaginative stories,,, chefs kiss 😩

Aw, good for you! Even if the whole grandma thing was confusing, I'm glad you still got value out of the movie in a time you needed it.

i know this was 2 years ago, but i wish you well!! i relate to this quite a bit, the grandma queer baiting may have cured my depression for a bit as well.

I was so much like Anna at at 12/13 that this movie was uncomfortable to watch and face that reality. The drawing, the depression, the HAIR 😭 And yeah, I'm now very very butch and with a femme who makes me feel seen lmao. I got the arc this movie swerved around by making Marnie her Grandma

I was surprised they weren't gay too. But I actually like the plot twist, I think it's more meaningful than simply having anna be falling for some ghost.

I'm guessing it's because LGBT is pretty stigmatized in Japan. Even if there's yuri and yaoi, gay people aren't accepted there like it is in the western world

@@otakyun3931 that is most likely not the case since the movie based off the book that has pretty much the exact same plot. the only difference is the book takes place somewhere in the UK.

@@daphnedaphn3 bcs it is. most key event that happened to her was the story that marnie tell her when she was little. she wont let go the marnie doll she have when marnie was dead (which makes sense why its hard for her to let go marnie, literally mad when marnie 'left' her). well she's probably gay too tho, and from what i get marnie was probably her first love such as "father was a daughter first love" term.

The plot twist was still pretty great imo

I felt it meant that Anna felt that Adoption trauma because she felt like a burden, and others were nice to her but I think she felt unwanted or like not belonging. And she lost her parents so maby even some survivers guilt?

ikr i nearly felt embarrased, im so glad it wasnt just me

@4Freedom4All i mean yeah i get cultural nuances but also gay ppl exist all over the world, including japan.

@4Freedom4All thats a fair point

Home sweet home Alabama

@4Freedom4All Idk if I should add to this discussion tbh but I'm not even from the west... I still see your point and its 100% valid and the platonic relationship and affection between the protagnist and her grandmother was the actual intention of the movie and its wholesome as heck. What I wanted to say was that before it was revealed they were related I truly thought there was some romantic undertones. The thing with platonic and romantic gestures is that they overlap alot so I could see why some people would interpet those moments one way or the other, hence why this video exist, because a lot of people saw their interactions in a romantic light before the reveal. Idk when I was younger and thought I was watching 2 girls fall in love, apart of me felt really happy because I didn't know girls can like eachother at all considering where I live. When it was revealed they were related I was bummed out but still loved the movie since Anna got to grow so much as a person. Facing her insecurities and problems while also getting the chance to spend time with her deceased grandmother one more time. It also helped me learn new things about myself, so I cherish it alot! I think alot of people saw themselves in Anna. (If you cant tell this is one of my favourite Ghibili movies. I swear I cry at the end everytime)

Why are the actors in ALL THE DUBS of Ghibli films sooo god awful???? Everything always sounds so flat and cringe.

Indeed

Subs over dubs yo!

@@goldcherries i actually like the ones for spirited away 😭

@@goldcherries I’m gonna have to disagree on that

man thats so sweet.

yo same im still ok with the ending cuz my granny is the only grandparent i ever bonded with and their bond is so damn precious. i also miss my grandma, she left way too soon. man i wish the movie didn't end that way but it was still beautiful nonetheless

That's so cute 🥺💞

So basically You're Anna but without the ghost of gay past?

This is so wholesome I cannot cope ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌈

Wth? My family and I never even experienced something like that. Everything about the movie was so romantic. Well, to me personally.

Wth? My family and I never even experienced something like that. Everything about the movie was so romantic. Well, to me personally.

_The DANCE was in NO WAY WHATSOEVER _*_STRAIGHT_*

@@iknowthatyouregayfireflies9992 She's relieving her grand-mother memories through her grandfather experience, that's why the scenes are romantic

They have never said i love im japanese and all they said was i care for you

or maybe just the Silo part she was him, as its the only part she gets called anything other than anna. The rest was Hisako, the painter which she didnt pick for obvious "homophobic society" reasons... just saying, that painter literally had her gift left behind, as marnie couldnt bear remembering the heart she broke. Marnie's bi(or just 'arranged wedding' gay).

Khadija?? I love that we're on the same side of the internet lol love your channel!

@@nanamiharuka3269 hiiiii

Heyyyy Khadija!

Wholesome gamer moment

I'm scream laughing, that line killed me 😂❤

My mommy is the person I inherited my depression from so she was like "OH SHIT, THAT'S SOME FUCKING GUILT RIGHT THERE!" :(

Same 🤣

I spent the whole video watching the lights too lol

So do I 1 of my friends: Do you watch when marnie was there just for the plot? Plot: gayness Me: oh he'll yea ( I don't know my sexaulity yet I'm 10 turning 11)

It's based on an British novel from the sixties. Marnie was always her grandma.

no that’s just part of the original source material

if you really want a Ghibli movie like that you gotta watch Ocean Waves, there is a really good youtube video "Ocean Waves - Studio Ghibli's (Accidental) Queer Film" about it

Thank you for letting me know

Thank you I didn’t not know this

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. It makes it sound gay but then she ends up being her grandmother… so yeah it’s weird.

It makes a lot of things in this movie a lot creepier 💀.

Yeah, they should have just allowed themselves to change that part in adaptation too, instead of chickening out at the last minute. Other than Marnie and Anna no longer being related, it wouldn’t have affected the main story at all. It feels like they were pressured to backtrack on the gayness by some studio head and were forced to add that in the end.

their best friends, yall are gross, marnie didnt't have any friends growing up, you guys are just perverts

Not really its just cultural differences they didn't do things that are inherently romantic

i think i came from the same video 😁

Same...

Same. And my deadname being her name, literally all of it bruh

Don't we all *sighs*

Didn't she? Suprise blood ties but be instant turn off, but it doesn't erase their chemistry. Having your tween love stolen away by your grandpa is so sad, I would have spiralled back into depression by this whole mess

Seriously, I can't really look at the ending with a straight face. The movie CLEARLY SHOWS a lot of sign anna has a CRUSH. Then waddayuknow, Marnie is her grandma. Well if were anna, I would be so creeped out that a have a crush on MY GRANDMAAAA. But still their chemistry was fascinating, and I will just pretend their not relatives.... :). In the end, I guess if Marnie wasn't her grandmother, the story wouldn't be much more better but I guess lest memorable ending?

i wish she was just some random girl who could time travel lmao that was so messed up how they made Anna blush around her all the time and confess her love to marnie several times just to be like ‘she’s actually her grandma’

Awws

Legit thought I was the only one, I'm glad I found this comment.

iirc, the book either straight up says or heavily implies that that's what happened.

Same

Yeah, pretty obvious smh brainlets everywhere

You know that actually makes so much sense because that is something some ppl have experienced during their depression phase as a coping mechanism

omg yes, this is what i thought too

This was my takeaway too. I think it still gets across what it was trying to, gay people can still relate to it and it's not suddenly invalidated because of a plot twist. It all still happened and the feelings these characters had were still real.

that's like. training-wheels style incest. it's a good thing that the in-universe mechanics make this a scenario where Anna isn't being groomed or facing serious consequences. In-universe it's almost like fiction.

@4Freedom4All not everything is for political reasons and I don't believe that is

@4Freedom4All damn I've read your comments and you're always on the verge of saying something that could be interesting but u fuck it up 😔

Exactly 😭

damn... so wait, he's also not (entirely) ethnically japanese? If his name is sorta bastardized english? Because I wondered about taht in the film. His thick beard and the way his eyes were drawn made me think he (Toichi) might have been coded as white. Also, my dad was also the last of eleven kids.

Wait so toichi was called " Wuntermenny"

@@maximeteppe7627 The book isn't set in Japan, it's set in Norfolk, England. Ghibli sort of did the same thing they did with Howl's Moving Castle, where they take a very Western story and seamlessly adapt it so that it fits in with Japanese themes and ideas. Point being, I don't think Toichi was coded as white. In fact, the only character who could arguably be so is Marnie - she's the only one with a non-Japanese name, firstly, and is also naturally blonde which I don't think is particularly common in Japan.

NOOOO POOR TOICHI 😭

Omg, like Wyborne Coraline!! 🤣

The most intense is "koi" but yeah pretty close.

My high school Japanese teacher explained the difference between suki, daisuki, and aishiteru as being more in terms of "permanence" more than platonic- or romantic-ness. Paraphrasing what she said: suki is for *potentially* temporary or flippant affection for something or someone; daisuki is for passions or obsessions, affection *expected* to last a long time, or even a lifetime; aishiteru is for affection that cannot be changed, eternal, life transcending affection - and not necessarily romantic or platonic. She said that mothers saying they love their kids was mostly the only time she could remember anyone using aishiteru. Well, mothers for their kids and American service men with shitty phrase books trying to get laid. Her explaining these concepts this way actually led me to introspect on what the degrees and kinds of affection I felt were. At the time, I had ended up determining the degrees to be "0" and kinds to be "none" because, which I know now only in hindsight, my depression was so bad at that point that my feelings were completely muted and I thusly had begun questioning if I even ever had the ability to feel. It was 10 years after that introspection before I was able to get actual help. I do think that introspection that led me to describing myself as "probably soulless" or "sociopathic" did help me get that eventual help. Now that I'm on medication, the thought of going back to that disconnected, numbing void terrifies me more than death. Anyways, taking Japanese was the best decision I somehow managed to make in all of my school career, especially for all the mental and emotional help Ms. Suzuki gave me. Sorry for the very random reply I'm no longer sure why I wrote but still feel compelled to post....

@@megan_bond thank you for sharing :)

i genuinely feel like the twist was only put in there so that it wouldn't Be Gay

@@megan_bond Wow that was a great read

It's true tho.

i would swipe right so fast

Eu aí

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Siiiim

SIIIIMMMM QUE ODIOOOOOoOOOoOOOOOoOOOOOo

nossa muito mais q eu esperava fml

this is too real.....

Que bom que outra pessoa percebeu. É uma parada bem bizarra ouvir a língua da forma que o brasileiro usa no sotaque português. Nem Dom Pedro aguentaria hahah

eu vendo isso agora

somos pessoas de cultura e sofremos por coisas que valem a pena

Up

Foi mo estranho ele lendo com sotaque português ksjdjdkdjd

Wolf Girl was too awesome for a romance subplot

Whisper of the Heart wasn't too bad. Although they are supposed to be middle schoolers so it's pretty unrealistic lol

The build up of Ghibli stories "Friends to platonic friends"

imo the point of Princess Mononoke isn't the romance in a traditional sense, though. These two people barely know each other and the plot of the movie itself only takes place over a couple of days, most of it focused on surviving and fighting, so it makes sense they wouldn't end up as a traditional couple. The movie itself is about Ashitaka and San, how they are different and how they are similar: They both want to save the forest, but they come from two very different perspectives. Ashitaka wants to protect humans from destroying nature and themselves. San wants to destroy humans so she can protect nature. Both of them are confronted with the fact that hate is the ultimate destroyer. Ashitaka is physically cursed with it and witnesses humans not just destroying nature, but also each other. San has to realize that even the powerful spirits she fights with and for can be destructive and violent. They both come to care for each other, but San doesn't necessarily have the emotional capability to return Ashitaka's feelings the way a 'regular' human could. She's not of the human world and the end of the movie makes it clear that Ashitaka represents an aspect of humanity she comes to accept about herself. At the same time, Ashitaka has to accept that the closest he can be to her is to live close to her. He still cares more about keeping humans and nature safe, while San has made peace with the knowledge that someone she trusts will aim for harmony. Like, not every story about romance has to end with the characters in a traditional romantic relationship. That's not always the point.

Yeah and the one where they do explicitly have the two protagonists kiss and say they want to spend their lives together...is fucking PONYO where they are 5 years old!! like I get it was based on the little mermaid but they reaally could have come up with a different ending. (that said...I adore Howl and Sophie from Howls Moving Castle as a couple)

Exactly! It would be so normal for them to ship these two if Marnie was her grandpa

I’m japanese and it was totally queerbaiting, it’s just that japanese audience likes to pretend that gayness doesn’t exist in their own culture so instead they’ll tell themselves that foreigners just “don’t get it” etc

@@meiblack8934 well yeah of course it would, because then that would be marnies husband. but the issue is that anna is marnies granddaughter. so it's more than a little weird to view it as anything other than familial love between them. just bc anna may have "replaced" the role of marnies husband at certain points doesnt mean theres some romantic subtext between them. it's just how time was replaying and anna happened to be in those situations at the time.

@@puppycatsbee I was talking about a world where Marnie is a man. Not about marnie’s husband dude

Good point

I don’t want to sound dumb, but is it possible for somebody who’s mixed race to have light eyes?

@@kiera6326 it is possible! Blue eyes tend to be a recessive gene so you need 2 parents to have the blue eye gene (even if they dont show it it's a possibility in their DNA) If chance allows it the 1 blue gene and the other 1 blue gene meet up and make blue eyes possible. But brown eyes have more of a chance to happen because they are dominant if present. So technically at minimum ,if possible, there is a 25% chance of happening

I always thought the tipping point was her physically taking something private and personal from her hands and reading it aloud - I really FELT that whilst watching.

she's like barely mixed

glad someone else had this experience

@@blackmouldtheres a lot of people who have childhood memories of people being tricked by this movie

wait till you watch ocean waves babe now That's a backstab

@@xXWithoutMyHeroesXx ocean waves romanticizes Rikako and Taku's toxic relationship

@@neilnova2062 literally yes, the ending makes the whole movie bad in retrospective

lmaooo literally inviting a specialist to analyze it

This is the funniest thing lmao imagine being like "I think this is gay but I'm straight so let me call in the experts" that is amazing

SIM O jeito que estavam digitando não tem nada de português, é 100% br kkkkkkk

@@gabbs8955 exato

I was going to say the same thing, the way they're written is definetly brazilian

nossa sim a gente tá em todo lugar já dominamos o mundo faz tempo KKKKKK

exato pra esse comentário e todas as respostas

I think the algorithm's picking this channel up a bit now

Just saw his video today and I subscribed. Thanks to the RU-vid's recommendation. 😄

I just joined the club I need more of this content

I just subbed, this channel deserves more

It should probably be said, this is not meant as criticism. If anything, evoking such a powerful response in me shows that this is good art.

Same 🥲

Also thanks for the aro shout out. I do, in fact, feel seen :)

@4Freedom4All Actually fun fact, everything *does* have to be gay! :)

@4Freedom4All well not everything has to be straight either ^^

@4Freedom4All People being gay isn't political.

@4Freedom4All You're funny ^^

no literally this they look EXACTLY like me when i was discovering i liked women and my childhood best friend who lead me to discovering it

then ig u fell in love wit a straight girl bro

@@couchbug good for u

@@bingeboi618 I- I did

Marine boats are gay?

Plotwist: they're all Angolan.

@@XuiLeeEv hope thats a joke, the things he showed were clearly written by Brazilians

@@wllyfht Yes, it's a joke. Since most non-Portugeuse speakers will assume any Portuguese comment is from Brazil or Portugal, it would be an unexpected result of actually the dozens of comments were from Angola, because Angola also has many Portuguese speakers but is rarely the assumed country.

@@XuiLeeEv that would be funny indeed

I mean the state of são paulo alone has more people than the entirety of portugal, and it's just like 1/20 of the entire population, so it makes sense that generally someone speaking portuguese online has a high chance of being brazillian (pra quem não fala português e não nota as diferenças)

id say it fits within the realm of a qpr. as a romance repulsed aromantic this is the exact sort of relationship i want, something intimate that pushes the bounds of what is considered platonic with no romance whatsoever

Lol yeah the first time I watched it I was like is this gay?? But someone woulda told me if there was a gay ghibli film?? But this seems very gay- oh.

Also I think the non-sexual love in a lot of ghibli films tends to arise from the fact the characters are often children, like this video discusses. So the way love and intimacy is expressed is a bit different to an adult relationship. Those types of relationships are totally valid in adults too, but I think that’s what motivates that type of representation in a lot of ghibli films.

@@georgecooper9766 thats what i thought too. i was like "wait tHERES AN ACTUAL QUEER FILM??? MADE BY STUDIO GHIBLI???WITH GOOD REPRESENTATION???" only to get disappointed at the end. the plot twist was great nonetheless, i still loved the movie.

I think it might also be cultural attitudes, from what I have seen people are often more physically intimate as friends there than in the West. For example when I was in a Tokyo high school as part of a school trip I saw a boy sitting in his friend's lap, which would be very unusual here

same