Completely agree, it should be taught in schools, narcissists are such dangerous and destructive people. It doesn't help that the term is used casually and incorrectly.
It's heartwarming to me that so many female victims of assault/domestic violence saw through the gender stereotypes the media constantly perpertuated/s in their coverage of that trial and recognized Johnny Depp as a fellow survivor. ❤
Is someone who goes by the name 'Wargasm 'it is transparently obvious why you have completely overlooked the recent and well-publicised trials of Donald Trump!
I disagree. I never got any justice from my NPD husband. Mine would cry crocodile tears on cue for court even tho he never cried in all the 20 years we were together. Not even when our son died in a car accident. He was a beautiful liar, too. I could only wish his pants caught n fire in the courtroom. lol He stole pages out of my journal to try to use against me. He had a tote bag full of notes about me. He had an affair partner (twice divorced) where he could go to her for divorce advice and to use her phone. Then it was two against one. He tried to starve me into a divorce agreement. He tried to honeymoon me into a divorce agreement. He tried to trash my name in public any chance he got. He was a sick f*cking bastard. He's passed away now. A victim of his own lifestyle. Good riddance, Andy. I felt such relief he couldnt hurt me anymore. I was giddy when I saw his obituary in the paper.
It is amazing to see a judge ask a direct question and to see them scramble to do their "answer by not answering" thing, in a situation where it's not allowed. At the end of the day it's respect, they at least understand that they want the judge to like them, that the judge has influence over their life. FYI ladies I was able to get a lawyer for a PFA via a women's shelter. I applied for a grant because I didn't have income and the services were covered. It saved my life.
I couldn’t be more thankful. I watched this video maybe 3 times in the past month. I had my court date today. My child’s mother acted EXACTLY how you described she would. I did exactly like you said and kept cool and never tried to explain anything. Just answer the questions. It works ladies and gents!!
I had to do my case by Zoom and I had to wait almost five hrs. to wait for my case to be held. I just couldn't believe how my ex denied things. I was so happy the judge could see thru his lies, she awarded me the PTO and allowed me to get paid for my hospital bill for when I had to go to the emergency room for when he punched me in my stomach and the judge allowed me to get paid for the eight to nine days I stayed at a hotel waiting for my ex to get served the PTO.
Recently, I took my narc mom to court to end a 12 year guardianship. She said that if she had tried to stop it from happening it would only lead to further escalations on my part. I won, and I haven't heard from her since. Now my life is my own and I can start thriving instead of just surviving.
This worked in court on the covert narc I used to be married to. I paid for the transcripts just because she was caught plain as day in 6 different complete fabrications and fits. Oh and yes her attorney quit shortly after she was exposed. WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!
I wish I found Dr.Ramani a few years back. Her insight has been so freeing and I thank God. I’m still dealing with a narcissist but I’m learning to step out of the dance. I don’t feed the ego…..
My late husband was a raging malignant narcissist attorney who said things like I can get you committed or held on a 72 hour hold. Its easy. Or I know of a few ways to kill someone and get away with it, like drowning. You get the picture. Needless to say I never stood near the edge of a cliff with him.
Same experience! When I left the relation ship I called CPS to help me deal with him. I said I cannot give him our daughter without his mother being present looking for her safety. The CPS Lady was amazing. She reassured me "we know this kind of people" and arranged a familiy reunion. His family and my family met to sit at the table and discuss solutions. He sabotaged completely an blocked everything that everybody was so annoyed in the end.
Thank you so much dr Ramani. My narcissistic uncle is taking me to court to fight me over my my grandmothers Will. All of your videos have kept me sane. 💛
In our city, a group of hundreds former students of a church and school associated with the church, have brought a class action lawsuit against the church and school. The charges include assault, assault with a weapon, and sexual assault - committed by everyone from the narcissistic head pastor (who has returned to Texas, and is evading legal service), to a local narcissistic city councillor, to former "teachers" (who were not certified by the local school board), Sunday school teachers, and more staff. There have been, to this point, four former staff (narcissists) charged with criminal activity, and we have spent most of the year in court. The narcissistic ones are the most religious and defiant. One former gym teacher has pled guilty in an agreement, and is due to be sentenced for his crimes (he sexually abused a young woman - then a child, and called it an affair) in January 2024. He's contesting his sentencing, because - of course it's the young woman's fault. Plus, he says he admitted his guilt, so he should have special treatment - lesser sentence. Another criminal defendant is wanting to "come to an agreement," but the male charged alongside of him is so arrogant and abusive, that there has already been at least 3 adjournments due to the disagreement. We (I am a parent of some of the former students) are going back to court this week for the arrogant male - who pled "absolutely not guilty, your honour" to the sole charge - demanding a trial by judge alone (he appeared in court with his wife, and two other males. He was dressed like a fashion plate, while his wife - who had to sit behind him - flanked by the two males, was dressed plainly - almost frumpy. She had no style at all, and was not allowed to speak to her husband, who was on his chair - sitting like he was on a throne - in front of her. She was silenced (non-verbally) by a man sitting to her right. The fourth male (extremely narcissistic) is the one who did the most damage to my own family. He is so arrogant, that he didn't even show up to be fingerprinted, and the police - after a warrant was issued - hunted him down at his home, to fingerprint him. He has pled "definitely not guilty - I did not do the things I am being accused of" through his lawyer, on a phone call. He has never appeared in court. His lawyer has called in to court on his behalf. He also appears to feature prominently in the "parent's rights" demonstrations, in media photographs, that took away basic human rights from trans children in our province. The things he, and his now deceased wife, did to me and my children are heinous. Those abuses were 34-35 years ago, and it has taken our family until today to finally start to get resolution. Our legal system is seemingly indifferent to religious abuses, and our "justice system" isn't just. It has taken decades of complaints being made for anything to be taken seriously. I, myself, made police complaints back in 1991, and spoke with reporters about the things we escaped from back then, too. But, the police didn't seem to want to do anything about what was alleged - or, there "wasn't enough evidence." Or something. If you want to learn more about what has happened, there is a Spotify podcast called, "The Legacy Of Abuse Podcast." Links are provided in the "about" part of the podcast, to the class action suit, and other things. These narcissists have abused in the name of their chosen religion. I divorced my (then) husband, because he was so abusive, after swallowing the beliefs and teachings, seven years after marrying him. As a narcissistic abuser, he continued to abuse for decades, and currently listens to your RU-vid videos - claiming he is "learning how to not abuse." (But, we all know how that works.) Our story is extreme, and we have been so damaged by what has happened - because of narcissistic abusers. But, it is more common than people know. And, religion hides a LOT of such stuff. Narcissists will also use the legal system to hurt their targets. We know that. And, it happened to me when I divorced my ex. Sorry for the long comment. I wish people could actually see and understand what narcissists do.
No need to apologise about the length of the comment. It’s open and honest to your experiences. I do hope you’re on the right path to healing…You’re a brave survivor. Remember that.
My ex almost went to trial due to his show of victimization. After 2 years of He only wanted to be a good father, he took his son fishing last year. Him and his attorney tried some tactics that backfired on them both. Judge sided with me
This has been the biggest / best piece of advice I've gotten in the whole process... the one where you don't respond at all, or respond extremely limited. They really can't handle that. To respond to their accusations and threats only brings you to their level. They will be their own downfall when left to their own devices.
My narcissistic mom had a messy divorce. She asked my advice, her plan was literally to guiltrip the judge, I told her that was a terrible idea, she hated me for it. Then in court she kept writing strongly worded letters to the judge full of caps lock insults with a mix of guilttip and female (women are always right) entitlement. She didn't comply to even the most basic requests from the judge. In his sentence, the judge said she left him no choice but to side with my dad in every aspect of the divorce, she had to pay even for his lawyers. As soon as she was in an environment where people care about accountability, she fell apart as hard as it is possible to do so.
His name is wouter van der gaag from Middelburg Zealand the Netherlands. He has dated me for 3 years promised marriage beaten me and cheated on me and broken my stuff. When i took him to court he came with an ukrainian 50year old named olga stepanyuk and he played the victim that i sued him out of jealousy... Olga was screaming at me although i Talked kindly to her. Because i proceeded suing him non stop he changed countries he dumped olga and he moved to sofia Bulgaria
My ex-partner took me to court 3 times, to get access to kids. He dropped the case 3 times as he was being told he had to do certain things. The case was dismissed as he didn't pay a lawyer or attend court.
I learnt the hard way as he used the law against me. They stood over me and made me sign my son over! Never go against a narc who pay for the best legal persons, position of power and lied all the way!
I'm predicting this will happen soon. But I always knew they show out in court. As we're as calm as we can be. They are exploding so everyone can see. I've seen him in court and after seeing this I'm smiling.
I was always walking on eggshells, lest he whack out on me or the kids. I didn't get my own lawyer... just agreed to everything he and his lawyer wanted... I just wanted it over with. At our final divorce hearing, he told the judge I wouldn't let the kids visit him. He had bought a house 4 houses down the block from us. The kids wanted nothing to do with him because he was NEVER a "father" to them. The judge believed him, and spent a half hour reaming me out for trying to keep the kids away from him, and threatened to take them away from me. I had always encouraged the kids to keep up a relationship with their Dad, and NEVER EVER said anything to harm their "relationship". My husband was always a good talker, always sounded rational... except when he went berzerk. After our final divorce hearing, he wanted to take me out to eat... I went. Afterwards he spent 45 minutes trying to convince me to have sex with him... no words of caring or loving me ( just like before), he was just horny.
I am going through a divorce currently. First, it is extremely difficult to get individuals to understand how those with narcissistic personality disorders mind and reactions are based on severe toxic malignant thoughts and trauma. It truly needs to be a part of their academic training to become a lawyer. Let me say, it is not their fault, but clearly higher education does not believe this is vital. The cost of trauma and lack of ability to get a diagnosis, puts the victim in a place of burden. I am asking, for those that are living with the NPD, how does one seek to have their spouse tested? Can the courts mandate? Basically, in a world 🌎 that does not have the training or experience to understand the capabilities of a NPD in court proceedings what can the survivor do? Most survivors can’t get a true diagnosis, because the spouse refuses to seek help. I feel so hopeless in this situation!!
It's so true! Narcissists absolutely show their cracks and if the Judge is astute enough, they will see it. Whether they know what it is, is a different story. This is in divorce court - not what's going on now all over the Country with that one particular person. That's just in your face/insanity.
Your timing is inline with my life now, after 2.5 years I’m finally getting court dates to ask for child support and divorce. Im a survivor of abuse and my abuser just secured himself a low-cost attorney based on his income because he claims he’s been abused and his children have been kept from him for no just cause (I have an injunction for protection obo the children and myself). Blows my mind how he continues to invalidate the abuse he inflicted and then goes on to manipulate professionals to gain a discount on legal fees. 😮
I'm fighting the ex in civil court at the moment. Oh my days, the rubbish he spews, he answers the judge back, won't stay quiet and gets told off. I just smile inside when he gets told off. I only speak when spoken to. The ex is "an expert" when it comes to court, apparently 😂
A certain former president isn’t doing very well with it, but I wish they would actually treat him the same as a regular person. Anyone else would have been jailed by now for no respecting the judges rules
Is there a possibility also that they threat the judge behind the scene without proof if the narcissistic person is very wealthy and powerful to kinda like scare the judge that they will not see their family again if the narcissistic person didn’t won the case? As we know narcissists does not play fair and has no empathy. In result we can’t win.
I have now taken both my siblings to court. I won a judgment against my sister which would have gone on to be a criminal conviction if it weren't for Covid causing the prosecutor to close the case. So I am owed money which can't be collected. And as to my brother settling my father's estate. He is sending out checks that bounce from his screwy signature. It just never ends.
My Ex had to go to Court once for hitting me, and because of his past history of having been locked up for a variety of offences and suspected Manslaughter inarticulate towards his on\off Girlfriend at some point. 🍒
I am a mother that has been in and out of court with a narcissist since 2011. The court has failed and my children are in great jeopardy. What would be the next step if the court has failed over and over
Dr. Ramani, Thank you for your social service. Your episodes are unpararelled.. it will be interesting if you do an episode about how narcissist effects on children.
Some MH professionals feel entitled enough to think they can safely ignore country's laws. Is taking them to court narcissistic or breaking law is simply not consider antisocial but something completely normal for MH workers? Or they should be "stilled" in a way which ignores laws because, after all, laws don't apply to them?
If it’s an employment case, I wish your legal team the very best of luck trying to get a response at all. Mine wasn’t able to do so, so my ex employer literally added insult to injury by running out the clock.
My psycho-ex-boyfriend-from-h*ll told the judge (I was there to get a resraining order) "It's ok Your Honor, just give her to me and I'll make sure she never bothers you again." And stood there all satisfied while everyone in the courtroom gasped. The judge granted the restraining order right then and there.
My narc was an ex cop so he knew how court worked and played the judge. He was in court twice: for breaking a safety order after assaulting me and then, after I left him, for child custody reasons. He had this 🥹 face on the whole time in court, like he was angel come down from heaven. It was crazy to watch.
@@JDSmithBuccs With the breaking the safety order, he just got a slap on the wrist, which was soul destroying. With the custody, he was given supervised custody, once a week.
@@ClezVideos I know the feeling, my ex broke ours by digitally tracking us and somehow he got full custody. I know it’s all relative based on individual experiences but I wish I had even a 50/50 custody situation.
What happens to the narcissist (and the rest of us) when the Judge doesn't lay down the law on the incorrigible defendant? We all know who I am talking about...or should...
I like Dr. Ramani but she seems to be someone who is enthralled with celebrities just a bit too much to use her otherwise good judgement when it comes to them.
My exwife had a hard time in court during our divorce as she annoyed the judge and was constantly complaining and knowing everything better. I kept my mouth shut and let my lawyer do this work and let the law proceed as it was written and guess what, the end result was a huge and unpleasant surprise for my exwife :)
It sucks when the enemy is your parent, but when someone doesn’t hesitate to run an ongoing campaign to destroy your spirit, this is a statement too true and one to live by.
A word to the wise, Family Court is a whole other ballgame. My divorce dragged on for ten years. It was a nightmare. It only ended when my NPD passed away. I will NEVER get married again. I didnt know about NPD until much later so I could unscrew my brain from all the trauma and terrorizing I had to live through for decades. He was misdiagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, but his doctor warned me he was dangerous and unpredictable. It was too late we were already married and had kids by then. It was like walking on eggshells my whole adult life. He was so dramatic and I lived in fear. Now, I can sense a NPD from a mile away and seek to avoid people. It's very toxic and it feels like you have been poisoned. It takes a long time to detox from that situation.
I know what you mean my "spidy sense" for these folks showed up a few years ago. Covert narcissist mother is my trouble, but until a few years ago I had no idea what to call this or why I was always sad. Maybe I take it to far now sometimes. She old and I'm not afraid of her anymore. Sometimes on the rare occasion I do see her sometimes I gaslight her for fun and then if she calls me out I laugh 😂.
Staying calm is excellent advice, but even more important is to document everything and anticipate their arguments. Often narcissists find narcissistic lawyers and they love delaying, derailing and sabotage. To them it's more important that you loose than to get a solution. So basically a nightmare all together. Be prepared for it all!
"Don't do well where they have to tone down their entitlement, they crack, can't stop themselves, roll their eyes, shift in their seat, mumble things under their breath." So true, Dr Ramani, you're the best!
I feel sorry for you a lawyer got me fired at my job as a re receptoonist. My boss knew what he was doing....my boss was a huge narc friends with many lawyers a d Drs in the community.
My ex was a judge. And a supreme narcissist. I didn't stand a chance. My lawyer was in over his head. (It didn't help that he told me he was on a committee with my soon to be ex's GF, another lawyer.)
How awful. Being involved with a cop would be even worse, imo. One of my relatives divorced one and I truly believe she feared for her life most of the time.
I took mine to court recently and I totally agree. They were calm, breezy, likable, charming, and the judge fell for it. Judge got snippy with me when they lied and I said that was incorrect because they misspoke. That was upsetting. lied to judge about employment status and said hadn’t had a job in years. I said that was a lie and then changed answer. Judge never called them out. They demanded not paying me back electronically and then when we agreed on mail order they wanted electronic. Not once did anyone see through the game. sent me an email later smug and proud how the hearing went even though I won. I truly don’t think people see through them because today was an award winning performance. They were even joking with complete strangers outside before court started.
I filed a no contact order against my narcissistic FIL, and in retaliation he filed one against me too. I did it on my own, spent 0$, just wasted a few hours plus a few trips to the court house. He hired a lawyer who fleeced him really well. He behaved quite well in the courtroom consider he’s a narcissist, but lied a lot as usual. He really felt humiliated for what I told in the courtroom coz he had a reputation to keep as a “community leader”.
OMG! This is SPOT ON! It’s incredible because this is exactly what happened in court against the narcissist in my life! Got in major trouble with judge!!
My narcissistic aunt took me to court over my inheritance. I got a lawyer and was ready to fight it when we found out that my aunt went behind our back, set up the court date, never told us about it, and since we didn't show up, she won. My aunt's lawyer stopped being a lawyer immediately after that. That's when I learned that immoral is not the same as illegal.
Wow. I’m sorry to hear your story. It’s truly amazing the way people behave and treat those they’re supposed to love. Greed corrupts the ill willed easily, and this is a testament to that.
@@erinward2983 Thank you so much for your concern. Greed was apart of it, yes, however she is from a family of shitty people and this was just one more horrible thing to add to the list. I went no contact with the entire family.
Even though I feel like we're missing a WHOLE lot of facts here and I don't know what state you're in, I'd get another attorney for a second opinion. Generally, ALL parties to a proceeding like that are supposed to be notified AHEAD OF TIME. I mean - it depends on what the contested inheritance actually was (money vs property, juts for one example) as well as what the rules are in that jurisdiction, but ... sounds fishy @@sam-wise777
Yes! As a business litigation attorney, I've dealt with more than my share of narcissists. Most judges saw right through them. Even though they were a huge pain to deal with and cost their opponents a lot of money, I really enjoyed having opposing parties or witnesses like this because they couldn't bully or manipulate their way to getting what they wanted when they were under oath on the witness stand.
My Narcissists/Abusers (multiple) just lied (ie, Perjury), Under Oath, over and over and over again with absolutely no negative consequences. I found actual photos of my Ex Narcissist with the Judges (multiple), ie blatant, undeniable evidences of Corruption, which I reported, upon discovery, giving said pieces of evidences. Aren't I entitled, by law, to a Fair Trial??? It is now a Federal Case. I am still being Deprived of My Rights, Under Color of Law, without legal justification and/or cause, even after the FBI and others have acknowledged, multiple times, in writing, that they have thoroughly investigated and determined that I am a victim of multiple felonies, not the perpetrator! I was put under State Protection (Address Confidentiality Program Code #146) and literally revictimized into chronic homelessness by Corrupt Judges and Corrupt Public Officials that I have Whistleblown against. Very true, very horrifying story happening right here in the USA!!! This is not a She Said/They Said situation. I have uploaded over 3,000+ pieces of actual, hard evidences against all of them that they claim "doesn't exist" (ie, Gaslighting) then they demanded the pieces of actual, hard evidences against all of them be returned to them. I was instructed to keep said evidences in my possession for their trials.
My ex had a set of papers that he needed to turn over to my female lawyer( I chose a divorce lawyer who was on a board at a women’s abuse shelter home thinking she would be so aware of controlling narc situations!) …as we stood lawyer to lawyer in the courtroom, my ex announced he had the papers for her and tossed them to the floor at her feet instead of handing them to her!!!😳…we all stood there totally shocked at this behavior!!!! Yep…I had chosen well for my lawyer….she totally understood all the antics of the narc!!!!That was 2005… couples counselors were not up to speed at dealing with narcissistic abuse…my lawyer and my personal counselor were on top of things from the start !!!! But today there is so much going on in the area..I am finally letting myself off the hook…I already survived…now on to thriving !!!!
I gasped at that. If your ex would do that in a courtroom, in front of a judge and attorneys, I can only imagine what you had to deal with behind closed doors. I am glad to hear you escaped and survived ♥
Court recently ended with a huge victory for us. The narc rambled on about how good a parent the narc was... Yada yada yada... How much the narc cared and loved the children. Then, the surveillance team entered the court room. Lies were all exposed on the big screen. Proof of the narc putting the children into danger... Proof of the lies. Get yourself a good private detective before you go to court. Pay them whatever they want. Find the money.
Ahhhh.. that made me so happy and content. Thankfully, I figured early on that he did exhibit a lot of narcissistic traits. When he smeared me, I was pretty sure but more concerned. As he wouldn't leave me alone, I began gathering proofs against him. And my my, oh my..! I have a treasure of satisfaction against him. I've filed a case against him and can't wait to go to court! The best part, he knows what I have against him and just to make sure of my safety, I told him that the cops already have everything they need against him! I couldn't hire a private detective, so I became one. All praise be to God! High five!
My son abandoned me 6 years ago. I think his narc dad turned him against me ( parental alienation). I reach out to him every holiday but he never responds. I even asked him if he wanted to go to therapy and he never responded. He moved to St Thomas, VI and started a business on the Beach. We would have to use Zoom/Telehealth if he decides to come back into my life and work things out. My son became very successful. I helped him get his Masters in Industrial psychology too. Of course his dad is "top dog" and helped him also get through college. My son and I have Bipolar2 and he blames me for that. We used to be very close. He has picked up some of his dad's traits. I cry on Mother's Day. I never thought this would happen to me. He's 36 years old and I don't think I'll ever see him again.😢
I know what you're going through. I have a 15 year old daughter who has been alienated from me. I regularly send her messages but do not get any responses. It's very tough emotionally. I've never received a birthday card nor a father's Day card. There are many of us and remember you are not alone ! Like you I anticipate that I'll never see her again and I pray for a glimmer of hope going forward. 🙏🏼
Same here, x3 - ex alienated them from my life approx 3 years ago, after I called him out on his evil. He behaved just like an adolescent that day, and paid me back with a smear campaign that would have me questioning my very existence - all based on manufactured lies.
The low functioning abusive awful Narcissist was a nightmare in court. He appealed our divorce and actually won to appeal even with his series of other crimes he was navigating legally through. It’s a triggering series of events that I now call tuition. he was tolerated in an unbelievable fashion in court, muted, but rarely faced any contempt charges. I’m writing a book on this experience because it’s morbidly fascinating
I agree with that however, I still am working with the court system, extending my protection order for my own good because it’s necessary. . Other people need to hear and not feel alone. I don’t know what folks do that have little knowledge and support in their circumstance. I was able to overcome because I have means, and I don’t have little children, I feel like I could help somebody else. I started leaving him in 2015 and it took until 2018 to safely get out of the house and then my divorce has only been final for one year. Yes the second one🥲 the first one was granted in 2019 December 4.
@@SeeCSeesCCYes please write your book🙏🏻!!! My daughter is married to (I/we believe) a nasty Covert Narcissist. We're going to need a lot of help in court. She has the same amount of young children as fingers on one✋🏻. He constantly threatens to use Blackmail full of lies to Social Services when she wants to call the police on him after he hurts her. He says go ahead you'll know what will happen if you call them, meaning he'll lie to the police until they take her little one's away. He says she'll have to prove herself innocent before they'll give their 5 little ones back to her💔. He's abusive in every way possible. He provides absolutely nothing for them so I have to pay for everything with my military widow's annuity. It doesn't go very far & isn't very much which explains my credit card debt over the last 11yrs providing for them. He's a demon👹 in sheep's clothing literally!! I have no idea how to proceed on such a limited income to attain a lawyer. Or what to start doing to keep him from harassing/ harming my daughter and the trickle down effect on my young grandchildren. He's been kicked out of the home I provide for them ( a year & a half) and uses his Blackmail Lies to gain access when he feels like seeing the kids, is hungry but does want to pay for his own food or wants to secretly record her after initiating an argument again. I should write my own book quickly before I hit 70 in the next couple of years. It would probably be a best seller but I might need a ghost writer I think🥹.
Perfect timing, I have court tomorrow with mine lol. With my soon to be ex husband, its always the outlandish messages I receive the days before court on how he is going make me go phsyco in court. He just constantly lies and disobeys the court and then of course I caused that as well. I have learned to be calm and cool from you so I cant thank you enough.
Interestingly, my narcopath husband is the MOST SELF CONTROLLED, calm, cool cat anyone will ever see. He will suck it up when he has to and does completely fly under the radar and dance on the line of the law. He is cunning and terrifying !!!! I don't live with him for the past 3 years
I had to get a Restraining order. Three times on my property documented w police. Then I filed looked up all the info on how to get a Restraining order. Not fun! But, i got one and I got distance for a time moved to another state and he still tried to hoover. Went right to the police filed a report and I will keep filing reports w the law every-time he tries to engage w me. Document Document Documents!!!
It was such a pleasure to hear about my narcissistic brother in-law in divorce court. The judge would not put up with any of his usual obnoxious comments . It must have been cathartic for my sweet sister-in-law who had endured it for 30 years. By the way Dr R., that’s a great fashion look on you. 😊
Reminds me of an early red flag in my last narcissistic relationship. When we met, I was going to the gym regularly and looked and felt really good. So when we started dating I invited him to join me. It was clear that he wasn't excited about the prospect but I thought maybe he'd find that he enjoyed it so I persevered. About 30 minutes later, he comes up to me in a rage to tell me that we needed to leave. I'm like, why? He says that he was told that he couldn't work out in sandals. I hadn't really noticed but who goes to the gym in sandals? He was so enraged that they had told him he couldn't stay there without closed toe shoes, and it was clear we would never be back. Knowing what I know now, I so wish I would have said, those are the rules and they make sense. What's your problem? That would no doubt have ended our relationship. Sigh, such a great way to avoid a narcissistic relationship!
My wife’s ex, who adopted 2 kids with her, left for Hollywood to become an actress 6 months after signing the papers. She was living off their state support checks in LA and applying for food stamps in the kids names. That triggered child support to come after my wife who quickly proved the kids were living with her. The support checks got redirected back to my wife and the ex had to go to child support court where she was ordered to pay my wife @$300 a month. She stood there in disbelief and actually said to the judge “I have to pay HER!?!” The judge said YES, and when you start working, you can pay her MORE. It was a delightful victory against that terrorist. I will never forget it.
@@denisedevoto5703 it took a lot of work! So much stress. But worth it. Our kids are 17 and 18 now. We split the ex’s child support between two savings accounts for the kids for when they graduate. The ex lives on the east coast somewhere. She stopped filing for full custody a few years ago. Life is good! lol
The judge told him that arguments do not cause broken bones. He broke my wrist and was arguing it wasn't him that it was JUST an argument. I got my Protection order. Only 6 months and he broke it 13 times. He keeps getting jail time, doesn't show for court, gets off with this and that. But 3 states have warrants out for him. He's currently in jail. I breathe easy for a while.
My SIL thought she could persuade the judge like she was always able to squirm out of situations. He shut her down so fast and didn't hear any of her moving speeches. He wanted to see evidence. We had a lot, so we won.
I divorced my narc and everyone was taken in by him, even my lawyers. It was a horrible 3 years until it was finalized. Everyone thought he was so great. It’s been almost 3 years and I’m still working on recovering.
I went to court with my ex husband (covert narcissist) he berated the female judge over the protection order. She didn’t grant it because they were more concerned about his military career! He brought up my PTSD and said that I was over reacting because of that although HE ADMITTED TO ABUSING ME!! He said, “ Yes, I did abuse her BUT that was in MY past!”🙄
One of my narcissistic exes falsely accused me of sexual assault, harassment, and “stalking,” despite the fact that we lived together. The judge was obviously biased against males to have signed off on the ex parte, but once we got to court I didn’t even have to present my evidence of all our text messages. Because the judge caught her contradicting herself, then rolled his eyes at her when she brought up Facebook. (And she had altered the messages from the original to lie about me!) The judge threw out the case and then my narcissistic ex cried because she didn’t get her way.
could you possibly do a video about estrangement from narcissistic children since the holidays are coming up? I am in this situation and I’m finding it very hard to deal with and I’m sure there are a lot of other people out there dealing with this as well… I very much enjoy your videos, and they are very informative
I am in that situation as well. My son is the carbon copy of his N father, he even uses the same insults and tone. And just like the Narcissistic marriage relationship, I keep hoping my son changes back into a kind and loving person that I used to know.😢
@@janeloraine6231 I am in the exact same situation as you… My ex-husband is a narcissist and has groomed my son and unfortunately, my son is a replica of him… I pray every day that God opens my sons eyes so that he can see what is going on and that I want him to be a good person and lead a good life… This is a very hard thing to deal with
Please, no pressure to answer. I'm the daughter of a narcissistic father, and of divorced parents. I went no-contact in June. Is your husband narcissistic...and, were your children raised in separate households?
Mine are assholes, too. Sorry. Just do what you can to get through the holidays until that's finally over. It's so depressing. You cant change a narcissist. Not ever. Even if they are your own kids.
