Hard to argue he didn't when the supposed professional keeps "somehow" pitting Edwards. If you have bump the other racer because your "tires wont stick" it's because you shouldn't have dove down there in the first place; I'm not even an *amateur,* and I know that. The clown keeps trying to dive down the inside when he has no line; If you don't even have your front wheels parallel with the other car's rear wheels, you do NOT have the room to make that dive. Brad is a hack, and I don't feel sorry for him at all.
It’s nice to see someone finally mention everything in the race leading up to Carl flipping Brad. People only ever show the wreck, and completely skip over the premeditation and failed attempt to the previous lap. The fact he was only given a 3-race probation from NASCAR is wild.
That was about a month after Nascar's "boys have at it" announcement. It was a mistake, and I was all for it in my opinion. It's led to the mess we have today. In a weird way, black flags for aggressive driving, despite being a ball and strike call, helped restrain the sport in a positive way.
That’s the exact same way I feel about the Matt kensith ordeal with Joey. Matt was always kind of jerk hence the Matt the brat nickname he was throwing bad blocks and hitting people and the same thing with Kyle Busch in that Truck race with horniday they ignore the fact that he wrecked Kyle not long before Kyle wrecked him. But of course no one ever brings those things up and when they show the Matt getting dumped by Joey video they leave out the 5 laps before that when Matt was doing anything to keep Joey behind him. I don’t blame Joey for wrecking him especially after that last block he threw.
@@dedo7326 the Matt and Joey situation was much different. Kenseth's season was on the line, Joey was already locked in. It was the first time under the stupid format that situation happened. Ricky Craven had the best take on it, I remember. He spoke to drivers were furious with Brian France defending the move, calling it "quintessential" was not at all what was needed. Between a lack of a conversation from Joey, France running his mouth, Brad crashing into Matt (he claimed he broke a tie rod, but given the circumstance it's understandable that neither Matt or Radcliffe believed him), and NASCAR completely losing control of the sport that year, Kenseth wrecking Logano was inevitable. And it was needed. Probably the worst officiated playoff season since the chase began. It was bigger than two drivers. Kenseth did himself, his team, NASCAR, the drivers, (including Joey), and the fans a favor. The season itself needed to implode. Between the debris caution at Cali when Kurt was driving the race of his life, after they suspended Kurt without actually being charged, the lackluster racing with the drop in horsepower that year, (although it's still better than today lol), Nascar suddenly forgetting what a restart is, refused to black flag Gordon, then black flagged Keselowski for nothing the next week, then the Talladega fiasco, which all started when they refused to go green until Biffle went down pit road.n
He only got a 3 race probation because he cannot control what Brad’s car does after he wrecked him. In fact even a 3 race probation is kind of harsh compared to what NASCAR levied against drivers before and since the crash.
Everybody has their limit and if someone looks like they are purposefully pushing that, things are going to happen. If somehow a person doesn't know this, then they're going to learn it real quick the hard way. Nice guys have higher limits, but everything breaks down with enough stress and pressure.
It's nascars staple of popularity. As bad as an outcome can be. Drama brings excitement and views. Who the hell wants to watch a race with no cautions or drama race after race? That's why their views have tanked. They just shot themselves in the foot by taking dillon out the playoffs
@@perrywebb5833I have never seen an organization so determined to ruin its own product. The France family seems to have become fond of the old saying “If it ain’t broke, smash it repeatedly with a hammer until it’s completely unrecognizable.” It all started with the Chase for the Cup series some 20 years ago and it’s been spiraling down the drain ever since.
In my opinion, most of Carl's critics are overlooking the aftermath of the incidents he had with drivers. Kenseth at Martinsville? Carl regretted his gesture and then they went on to be great friends. The feud with Keselowski? Brad went on to say on his own blog that he did and always would respect Carl, and that's evident with how they never got into scrapes again. Carl made a lot of mistakes earlier on in his career, huge ones, and he certainly made himself look like a jock at times. However, he evidently grew and matured from those incidents, because not one of the criticisms people have of Carl are actually from later in his career. His late Roush stint and time at JGR? The people who recycle the same few "Carl is a psycho" points have nothing to say in response, because Carl learned and he grew up. Instead of throwing hands with Logano and his crew in 2016, he took the loss on the chin and went out a class act. Can drivers not grow and change? Making huge assumptions about his character based on what you see on the TV is ridiculous and unfounded when you actually look further into it.
Agreed, only point you missed was that Carl is no different than many others that came before or after him. Carl Edwards, Dale Earnhardt, Tony Stewart, Cale Yarborough, and the Busch brothers were all cut from the same cloth. Retaliation has been a part of racing since the day you put two drivers on a track riding tricycles and told them a trophy was at stake. Keselowski may have got a little more than what he deserved in Atlanta, but the point was made and I do not remember the pair trading paint afterwards. On the other hand, Kenseth had it coming and then some. Both drivers failed to control their car and in some way that failure negatively impacted Carl's race, multiple times. I would have no trouble making the same psycho argument with what Kenseth did to Logano at Martinsville. Honestly, Logano got away with a little less than what he had coming. In my opinion, Moscar (pot stirrer) needs to find better things to do with his time, a high quality videographer he is not.
@@razburry8001 Matt and Carl Edwards are not, and never have been great friends. They respected eachother at the ends of the careers, but to say friends is a joke. Carl was all for the cameras dude, and he was even better with the camera’s than he was in a car.
Looks like it's a common scenario, they have kids and become more mature because of it, examples I can also think of are Kevin Magnussen and Max Verstappen
I have a good feeling at the 07 martinsville race Carl is anted to show Matt Kenseth was scared or that he would flinch. I think that smile was a laugh
Reminds of how baskeball players can go at it yet become good teammates or friends later on. There are lots of rules and lots of etiquette, and both get crossed. Everyone is a competitor trying to win, which sort of goes against being nice, yet especially in nascar you reply on the other racers to get those speeds and to drive well to keep things safe. So you have to have that mutual respect for in hairy moments. IMO most feuds and scuffles are just how it goes between competitors and they shouldn't really be held against drivers unless they are clearly a terror on the track all the time.
When nice people snap, its worse than when your average person snaps. Nice people have a larger bottle for storing anger, which means they dont release it as much. But once this bottle does fill up, theres so much more being let out than usual. TLDR; nice people snap worse but less often
Great video and meaningful words at the end. Couldn't have said it any better! I wish more people would have this outlook on anyone in this world. There is no perfect human. I'm happy for Edwards getting into the HOF.
Knowing from personal experience, sometimes the scariest, most cruel evil disgusting and downright awful people are the nicest most hidden in plain sight humans
i’m so glad he got into the hall of fame. he is still so underrated, he gave away so much to not race like a dick, and he never won a championship for it. he deserved atleast one
Carl Edwards was who I rooted for when I was big into NASCAR but everything that happened with Brad just seems wrong. It really leaves me torn on Edwards.
I’m a MO boy which naturally I cheered for Cousin Carl! I got to meet him and several drivers in 15 at Kansas. Carl was by far the biggest jerk which really surprised me. I still cheered for him and always chalked it up to a dont meet your hero’s type thing!
He was my favorite racer. I think during that era 2008-2011 it was a nice guy in a extremely competitive sport with no real outlet for frustration. And it showed on the track unfortunately. I was lucky enough to meet him once. My dad's Cousin for years was apart of his crew team then became one of big people in charge at Toyota when they got into NASCAR. Got me a hot pass in Michigan around 2007.
Isn’t this “nicest driver” the same one that slammed into Dale jr. after the race while Dale had his hand out waving, then charged victory lane and grab him by the throat. Also spun out on the track while nobody was within 200 ft of him and started cussing about getting revenge on who spun him? Although that one was hilarious. I mean everyone knows Casper was a dirty driver. Dude had serious anger issues for real.
carl punking kenseth when he pretended he was gonna punch is is my fave clip of all time ahahah how any one could take kenseth acting tough after that serious is beyond me lol
I still believe that he was robbed in his last race and that someone had remote control of Lagono's car. ( Pretty sure it was Joey, memory not in stone)
I think people are *way* overthinking this. Considering his past, I think he's just a guy that realised how he was when he was younger, and actively tried to change. There was a period (this video) where the "old him" would come out if he felt he was extremely wronged by someone, but he *still* recanted it later every incident. The fact that he's stayed mostly out of trouble since just looks like a guy who wanted to change for the better, had some hiccups, but ultimately did in the end. If anything, these incidents should be a reflection that nobody just "changes" for the better instantly, but rather there's always a "transition phase" where you have to fight your old self.
100. This is just a nascar fan being a nascar fan. Aka. Rose tinted glasses. When it's done to my driver it's unforgivable when there driver dose it it's...let the excuses begin on why it wasn't that big of a deal and shouldn't be seen as the same thing as when others do it.
@@deathmachineyt3254 when? As far as I can remember thare was the one time. Talladega and Atlanta were on Carl and his bad blocks. when? If you can't tell me when I can't look it up and see and if I can't look it up and see it didn't happen. Tell me when.
The carl and matt stuff happened in 2006, carl also had issues that year with Tony and Dale Jr. He was immediately fast and things went his way in 2005. I think a lot of the run ins that year, had to do with the sport "humbling" a young talent.
Haven’t watched the video, but Carls tv nice guy fooled a lot of people how how many incidents he had. Never could stand him because he would do the aw schucks routine. If we really analyzed he and Harvicks career past then being buddies with all the media, people would see they were the biggest asses in the track
Carl has always been a fake and twofaced type of guy. It’s not only this. He has a goody two shoes “aw shucks” kind of personality he wears but he’s always been this way in truth.
i find this very similar to Matt Kenseths career, was a clean respectable driver who avoided drama. but then once he got older and joined Joe Gibbs his temper started showing alot more, Specifically to Penske Drivers ;-;
That wreck at gateway is why I don't like Carl Edward's, and why I started to like keselowski, the wreck at dega was an accident, a result of a late block, but the flip at Atlanta, at the spin at gateway, that was uncalled for.
I've NEVER heard of Carl being called a nice guy lmao, he wrecked me in inside line once and has since been the worst, meanest, most disrespectful driver in history. Matt Kenseth is the real nice guy.
Martinsville 2007 was THE REAL CARL. the fake nice guy is an act, its for the camera's. if you know people in the insutry, ask them what they thought about carl when the camera's were off.
If Carl Edwards didn't have charisma and do backflips after wins I think he'd be one of the most hated drivers in NASCAR history for what he did to Brad.
You have "NASCAR's nicest driver" in the title & you're talking about Carl Edwards??? Not Mark Martin. Not Johnny Benson... But *Carl Edwards!?... BRUH!?...* 😲😲😲😲😲
1:51 wait hold on. Did you just say that a Martinsville race wasn't covered?!!?! HOW. Like I get a cookie cutter mile and a half not being covered but Martinsville is one of the biggest races!
You'd have to look long and hard to find a more detested driver on the dirt tracks of Missouri. He burned so many bridges and broke so many hand shake deals with car owners, he'd be lucky to land a seat in a street stock. He's a tool.
Very good video. Carl Edwards is my favorite driver. It was heartbreaking to know that he came so close twice to win a championship. Seeing Keselowski then and now, he still has a tendency to make moves or do things that still cause wrecks. While he may not have meant to flip Carl at Talledega, it was the wrong time to pass. Had he started the move going to the flat from the tri-oval, then Carl at worst just spins out. I remember the race where Carl came back from being wrecked, but I didn't remember him trying to wreck Brad for that long. Much to how Brad did not mean to flip Carl, Carl didn't mean to flip Brad. Both cases came at the worst track to do it on. Had they waited for a track that was with less speed, then the outcome would have been different. I wonder if in the back of Carl's mind that he had to get Brad back specifically for the tandem flip? Carl just meant to wreck, but those cars during that time were so sensitive to flipping. The moment the roof flaps came up, the car got airborne. An unintended result yet probably the best outcome from both of these wrecks is Nascar realizing the wing on the back of the COT car was the worst thing they could have possibly done. Seeing cars flips so much made Nascar go back to the spoiler. Nascar was never Nascar with that wing. It looked cool, but the racing at some tracks was just terrible. So while Carl's wreck on Brad was very much his fault, the overarching unintended result was Nascar taking notice on how the cars kept flipping and fixing it.
You have the worst most biased take iv ever heard. You sound like the mom who's blaming there being rocks on the bus top for why her kid was throwing rocks at cars😂 I mean I could try and explain why your wrong but I don't thank facts really matter to you. Carl is your guy and you are 100% biased. Carl threw a late block at talladega that crash was 100% his fault. How you can blame Brad or nascar for that is hilarious. Also at Atlanta Brad is clearly to Carl's inside and Carl comes down again and wrecks him self again. Then throws a temper tantrum and turns Brad on PURPOSE at one of the fastest tracks and puts him in the fence and put not just brads life but fans life's at risk. Late blocks is how he lost his championship in his last year, throwing a lat block on joey. You understand that it's not the responsibility of the car beside you to lift so you don't turn your self on there hood right? Common sense would tell you if that was the case then no one could ever pass because you could just come down or up on them and force them to lift every time. The mental gymnastics you are doing hear is good enough to make the Paris games. This is not even bringing up the right hook he pulled on Brad that wrecked the whole feald. You will make the best mom ever 😂 my baby didn't do nothing wrong!
No one thinks Carl meant to flip Brad, but brads move at Talladega wasn’t a bad move at all. Brad did the move perfectly and Carl just didn’t let it stay. Other drivers had done the same type of move and won with it because the other driver didn’t block
I was a huge Carl Edwards fan, and with Mark Martin "retiring", he was my go-to favorite. The Matt Kenseth moment made him look like a dumb bully jock. Yeah, he wore the dumb "awe shucks" smile well, but that was just dumb. I was still a fan, but this showed he was no Mark Martin.
