WHEN PRINCE MET HIP HOP & TUPAC SHAKUR [S2E6] 

This series is priceless. 💜

I must say, I've just recently been following this series of videos and it's been a fantastic journey through this era of music history! You did an amazing job providing us with an oral history of the Minneapolis Funk sound from those who participated in it. I know the story of Prince and his empire, but I've never seen it illustrated in this way before. Bravo, Sinnik! 👏🏾

There is nothing wrong with sampling music when it is done with respect for the original artist, artistically and financially. The respectful sampling of music, once artists came out of the hysteria about it in the 80's, has been good for black music. Listen to Lauryn Hill's beautiful, soulful version of Roberta Flack's "Killing Me Softly." It was respectfully done and a homage to the beautiful artistry of Roberta Flack. And it helped the fiercely talented Lauryn Hill, and many other fine black artists, develop their musical careers. After all, nothing is ever truly new, and we all learn from one another by inspiring each other. To take this concept to a higher level, we black people have learned a tremendous amount about dignity and respect from our slave ancestors by mimicking and re-creating their great music and art. What your grandmother taught you you teach your son. That is how we as a chosen people of God have survived!

This series is genius

I hope Prince was well paid when MC Hammer sampled 'When Doves Cry' for his song 'Pray' in 1990 ...

I seriously appreciate you for putting this together a major treat true fans of the Minneapolis sound !!!

You're the greatest as usual. This is creativity! Thank you too Sinnik for adding positivity to Prince's music and legacy.

This is the same woman that was not happy with with Kanye using her song but sounds so happy about doing it to Prince. Will never take her seriously

Chaka Khan: “Prince of what?” He was ahead of his time when it came to the compulsory license issue. That’s something I would like to learn more about, since artists are speaking out against it today. I knew Tipper Gore went after hair metal but I had no idea Prince was included in that. Some of the best artists of all time exuded a raw sexuality. I agree that Prince was more sensual vs. explicit. Found it interesting that he considered Janet Jackson’s Control, one of the biggest albums of the 80s, garbage. Great episode. Can’t wait to see the next one.

Crazy hearing him say this about sampling when with Graffiti Bridge, he started sampling a lot and it REALLY picked up during D&P and the Symbol Album

LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SERIES

I’ve been glued to this series for weeks, keep up the good work

Amazing episode with Chaka!! I love the song I Feel For You!! Dancing in the clubs were the happiest times of my life!! I appreciate your work so much friend!! 💜💜💜❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹💜💜💜

Prince was a complicated man. I'm not a musician, or artist of any sort, but I really would be flattered if someone wanted to sample my work. What is it they say, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." or something along those lines.

2Pac & Prince 🐐

The rules in the music industry are crazy; why people sign those contracts is just crazy

"Good Times" was also in a rap song, one of the earliest collabs in the R&B/ Disco and Hip Hop music genre.

Because I PLAY MY INSTRUMENTS. PROPHETIC.

This is so well done, thank you for this.

Tupac really hammered people with his politicking and gangsta. He went down 5that Rabbit hole though. 25 years. Most successful rapper IMHO

Despite his feelings towards hip hop, he borrowed quite a bit from the culture namely the dance aspect of hip hop i.e. b-boying (him doing coffee grinders and kickouts) and the dance routines done with the Game Boyz

It's truly amazing that Purple Rain the movie was what it was with all those large ego's roaming around.... also it's a shame that artists can do what they want with other's creations... I liked the way Prince rapped on most of his tunes... I'm sure he could've really developed a unique style if he gave it more time.. but being the genius he was I'm sure his other interests and skills just got more attention.

gonna enjoy this 2night. thank U 4 u'r work (again)

This was interesting. I don't think there is a comparison between Prince 's "sensual" lyric and hip hop's lyrics. In hindsight Prince was a sage. Prince was bitter/sweet, hedonistic/holy, angel/devil , lover / enemy- for me that is part of his appeal. He seemed to seamlessly embody what wars within.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

Omg it’s the two legends

Well Prince, was sometimes stuck in a period where they organically made music. Although he pioneered the Drum machine sound in his music. Hip Hop music wasn't something he actually comprehended. Hip Hop music derived from the great musicians he loved. So every time a hip hop artist back then sampled stuff. It was an ode to those Artists. Growing up in New York, I knew that's what they did ,with sampling of the breaks or implementing them at parties those days. It was an ode to him as a musician.

Chaka Khan: “Prince of what?” He was ahead of his time when it came to the compulsory license law. That’s an issue that artists have started to focus on recently. As always, on the forefront/ cutting edge. I couldn’t believe that he throw out Control, one of the most well-known albums of the 80s, out as trash. I knew Tipper Gore went after hair metal but I didn’t know Prince was included in that. Tipper Gore was a boogeyman at that time. Some of the best artists of all time exude a raw sexuality but I agree that Prince was about sensuality. I like that he didn’t want his music associated with misogyny. He was otherworldly. This series is great! Tells the whole story and the history of Prince’s career in a very real way.

I miss Prince 💔

Ya remember when pac sampled “if I was your girlfriend”?

You ... know your work is fire ... we need to link up .. Another homerun

I always knew that Andre Cymone was underrated and underpaid by the purple one..✌✌loved what Chaka Khan said, Prince of what..

many of Prince’s heroes never got their financial dues,because they never owned their own music..

100K to sample Tennessee, now that genius level sh!t right there

"Prince of what?" 😂

Great episode.

Ironically enough, Prince's song Most Beautiful Girl In The World is not available for streaming or downloading because the song got hit with a copyright plagiarism claim from two Italian song writers Bruno Bergonzi & Michele Vicino, they sued & claimed that the Most Beautiful Girl In The World record had the same melody & vocal arrangement as a song they wrote in 1983 called "Takin Me to Paradise" for an artist named Raynard J AKS Jay Rolandi. They originally sued Prince in 1995 over it, but a ruling was never made until 2003 which stated that Prince didn't plagiarize, but then they appealed & won the appeal in 2007 & then in 2015 the final ruling of the case came down in which the Italian courts forbade Prince & his estate from distributing or performing the record until or unless the Italian songwriters were paid for it.

Jimmy Jam:" That dude is the most talented dude ever in the history of people, period." LMFAO!!!!!

Sampling, when done in good taste, can be very rewarding! #RickJames: #McHammer #CantTouchThis (Although initially, he never approved of the sampling, but eventually later he started performing in shows with rappers) /#StevenStills (#CrosbyStillsAndNash): #PublicEnemy #ForWhatItsWorth, / #Aerosmith: #RunDMC #WalkThisWay/ #ElDebarge: #NotoriousBIG (#StayWithMe) and #Tupac (#ADream). They all were visionaries and saw (at that time) was an untapped market to reinvent their music, with not only a younger generation, but a new genre of music, which had made them relevant until this very day! As a matter of fact all of them were being requested more, after their songs were sampled. Aerosmith had the greatest run, for they were actually broken apart, but after seeing them in the videos, the fans demand for their return and they answered the calling. Nearly 30yrs they are still together. Steven Stills like PE's song so much and wanted to be a part of the movement, he gave them the permission to use his song, if they let him appear in the video! I thought that was really cool! #NEBPRODSBX, #DBNEBMusic, #NEBFILMSBX, #OTBST, #OnTheBlockSportsTalk, #RU-vid, #Google, #duckduckgo, #explorer, #safari, #bing, #earthlink, #Firefox, #msn, #AOL, #YAHOO, #Outlook , #ITunes, #Apple, #Microsoft, www.DBNEBMusic.com, #Bronx , #NYC, #NY , #GunHill,

Darling Nikki is done in the spirit of misogyny in the movie. He sung it to embarrass and humiliate Apollonia in the movie. Plus there is plenty of misogyny in something in the water (does not compute) and other stuff. Prince my dude, but facts are facts.

Enjoyed your video.

Your editing is amazing

This is such an awesome series

Prince is a musical purist,he was also was a businessman,he didn’t want to get ripped off,like many of his heroes,just how many great artists ended up poor and in the gutter??,also Prince when was barely out of his teens,was teaching 40 something funksters about the importance of ownership of your music,this can be confirmed by Bootsy Collins...Prince was a erotic artists,and also Never misogynistic,that’s why most of his fans were girls and women..women and girls certainly ruled his world..😃👍👍👍..Great channel 😊

Dance to the beat of your own drum Ok. True.

So prince was mad about not getting paid for his worth and warner bros taking his music and doing what they wanted BUT he did the SAME THING to other people

Prince did not like others covering his music without his permission.

I really love these series too I subscribed a while back but I never really watched them I watched so many things about Prince cuz he is my favorite artist and I really had to sit down and watch these they're phenomenal because it's you heard it from the horse's mouth thank you so much our love of Prince even in his death has brought people together that we would never have talked to or bat a eye at otherwise thank you so much

When Prince hears Janet Jackson Control album my guess is that he hears what sounds like his music, artistes covers your music you can say it sounds a bit better than the original,the story of hip hop music a lot hip hop acts samples so many different music from these artistes they want to get paid when they came after Prince music he wasn’t to happy and most times he let any of these rap artists use his music if they did he would sue and they would have to pay him, and last but not least is Tipper Gore she’s the reason why that so many parental advisor stickers on a lot of albums mostly hip hop acts that has explicit lyrics and maybe rock and pop as well , might as well thank Prince for that after she heard the song Darling Nikki from the Purple Rain album she bought her then 11 years old daughter.

“Respect the music”

You heard the album why take your daughter too the concert

I knew Prince’s version of I feel for you before Chaka’s and I like his version better. Hers had the rap which I just wasn’t a big fan of.

Will someone ask Morris Day when he'll be Playing in that Terrible City Milwaukee

I find it fascinating that a genius like Prince was so insecure.

Collective Copyright yes. But the MELODY LINES NOOOO.

He wasnt " Contributing to the problem" The Industry FEEDS on itself.

Funny how he doesn't like people covering his songs when he's known for covering other people's songs. Sure, a recorded cover didn't happen till Emancipation. But live...plenty of covers throughout most of the tours. And the pmrc helped sell and publicize music at least as good as a newspaper ad.

I'm glad that sampling fad ended cuz hip hop artists were getting RIDICULOUS with it and I understood where Prince was coming from on that end cuz he put in a lot of very HARD work and stayed up TIRELESSLY nights coming up with those arrangements and just to let somebody come along to steal it and make money off it. Man, PLEASE.

He had a point when it came to sampling...besides the $$$, did you really wanted your song that you wrote and produce to be associated with something negative....? JS. I think he had a complicated relationship with some elements of hip hop. For example, certain songs such as Sexy MF, Housequake, Irresistible Bitch, he didn't consider those being hip hop. But FF to some of his later work where he incorporated the art form in his work. He just made it his own. And it's also good to know, why he was particular about who covered his work. That part is true cuz I knew someone who was associated with Crystal Waters. She wanted to do a cover of the song Uptown.. Anyway, my buddy had told me that Prince's team had charged a ridiculous amount for doing the cover. They went back and forth but it was done. As for Jimmy Jam, let's be real Prince didn't NONE of the members of the Time to succeed. So I find it funny, that Prince would cover a Jam and Lewis song on some of his tours. Especially the NUDE and Musicology tours. I really do believe that Prince had tremendous respect for them later on, however he would never tell it.....

Darling Nikki shouldn't been an issue had you went back to 82 he had international lover, lady cab driver..dmsr that should of been your clue it was gonna get rougher

Subscribed. You'll see more stories like this on youtube now. Vanity stories out there with demons and stuff. Bizarre interpretations from excerpts taken from copy written books ? Up the ladder again.......

A lotta ppl tend to miss the point that things don’t occur in a vacuum. Prince was fortunate to grow up with parents for musicians in a time where musicianship was still taught and drugs and violence weren’t ravaging the community. He also wasn’t the same level of poor and disenfranchised as a lot of the ppl making hip hop were. Sampling and hip hop came from a time where drugs destabilized the community so many things weren’t being taught or passed down, music programs were defunded and shit was hyperviolent and hypersexual. Black ppl are gonna be creative regardless, so they found a different and appropriate conduit for their time. As someone that has fully produced, written, mixed and mastered both sampled and completely original records of equal quality, they both take an equivalent amount of skill and creativity when done well. The skill sets are just different.

Prince was a genius and one my musical idols but he does come off a little hypocritical when it comes to rap music. Wasn't he slapping the shit out of Apollonia in Purpl Rain? Didn't Jerome throw a woman in a dumpster and Morris refer to his female group as bitches?? I also say that if someone wants to attack hyper sexuality in art, they need to start with grotesque style porn first!!!

ARE U SERIOUS!!!!????? I HAVE never SEEN THIS PHOTO... WHoooo! 'Pac said He wanted to 'Hang' with This Man.

"If it aint Chuck D or Jam Master ..ya losing " -Prince

I know for a fact that Pac did not like Prince. Directly from that beautiful man himself. Musically I adore them both but personally it’s Pac. I really miss Prince because he was such a huge part of my life for such a long time but I I mourn Pac to this day. May they both rest in power in paradise.

Prince was a control freak and a hypocrite. He actually did to his artist what he accused the Gatekeepers of doing to other artists in the industry.

LOVE THIS SERIES...BECAUSE I HAVE MIX FEEL..THE MIX FEEL WAS...TRYING TO FRIEND PRINCE PEOPLE LIKE ANDREA ETC.. AND NOT CONTACTING WITH THEM..LISA WAS THE ONLY ONE I CONTACTED WITH....LOVE U LISA,LOL...THE OTHER FEELING IS HEARING MY PEOPLE NAMED HEARD ...BOMB SQUAD AND MY MENTOR ...KEITH AND HANK SHOCKLEE..THE PEOPLE THAT PUT ME UNDER THEIR WINGS AND TAUGHT ME THE SIDE OF MUSIC...YEAH..THIS SERIES MEAN A LOT TO ME BECAUSE IF I WAS TO CONTACT WITH PRINCE...I WOULD HAD TOLD HIM ABOUT HIP-HOP...HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT TO WELL...NOW THAT HE GONE..I COMBINE THE TWO AND MADE IT INTO ONE. NOW I CAN DO HIP-HOP AND THE STYLE PRINCE IS USE TO.

He sampled Jimi & Fishbone ..fishbone never got a phone call or a check.

He did like Chuck D, Kendrick Lamar and Dougie fresh , some of it grew on him some.

Change the world with the muziq? 2pac knew. But wuz 2 hip Cat, we need U 2 rap!

Lol @ 11:59 “The council reached a unanimous decision to do nothing” isn’t democracy great

Snoop Dogg wanted to use Prince tracks I remember. Prince told him no. Was it that Prince didn’t like or understand hip hop? Or was it that he liked to keep his money locked up.

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Prince could sometimes be a music snob. He went full dolores tucker talking about hip hop. Lol sorry not all music is made to talk about stuff that's sunshine and rainbows lol.

So how did Rebbie Jackson get I feel for you?

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Prince made a career off of stealing music from his FRIENDS who housed him and gave him a platform and made a mint doing it but will be so ARROGANT to not allow rappers to sample his music. He was a greedy narcissist.

prince was scared of jimmy jam!!!...intimidated, even

When he put hip hop in his music it was awful. Jughead? Dead On It? Work That Fat? It made him sound old

Damn..i wish Prince met J Dilla 💯🔥

Sampling is what it is... that's the inevitable progress of technology, N sum good jams have some out of it. I Do However, Agree with Prince. It took some value away from Hard- Won, True Musicianship & made the new crop of artists able 2 accomplish more ,with less, not having 2 learn instruments and just being able 2 pick over other artists recorded music. Don't get me wrong, now, there r some GREAT Singers, Songwriters, & Producers in 2days Music Game... and thats cool 4 what it is. Yet, 4 me, like Young Purple, I still dig the music played by the artists who wrote and recorded it. I wanna see it PLAYED. Prince, Rick, P Funk, Rufus, Isley Brothers, James Brown, Sly Stone... old fashioned 4 my age (born in the 80s)... but I value Real Performance & Musicianship🤷 and I would LOVE 2 see more young artists as INTO being an Accomplished Musician as Prince was... 🤴 💜 🎸 🎹 🎤

Andres family took him in when homeless for years. I feel Prince didn't show enough appreciation to Andre.

I'm just going to keep it a hundred on here. I like Andre Cymone because of his ties to P but I'm tired of his trying to tell us that he and Prince are equals. No you're not. He's ALWAYS been jealous of Prince. I don't know if anyone on here is old enough to remember a show that came on every Saturday called Radio Scope. When Andre first left Prince he was on there damn near every week dogging him out. Saying he's never going to get to where he wants to get to. Back then he said the reason why he left was because Prince wouldn't listen to him. He said he would never listen to his ideas. Now he's saying that Prince basically stole ideas from him. Which is it Andre? If he was all of that well he had a THREE album deal with Capital Records to prove who he said he was and couldn't do it. Only hit on those three albums was Dance Electric written by Prince. You can't make this stuff up. People want to say well he produced Jodi Whatley which is true but that wasn't a Jimmy and Terry doing Janet Jackson situation. He HELPED Jodi. Jodi wrote most of her songs. The concepts were all her. Andre helped with the music. I know Prince could be tough to work for but the bottom line is if he didn't get signed we more than likely wouldn't have heard from any of them. Even though Jimmy and Terry are excellent. Love those two but even they learned so much from him but they acknowledge that. It just pisses me off now that he's gone some that worked with him want to act like they done more than they did. I give Jesse Johnson more respect than Andre because he actually did have a nice career after Prince but even in that Prince taught him how to write music. Just keeping it real ✌️

Why does it seem that Prince is so much more articulate than Tupac as examples of a generation?

The hypocrisy when people use “the tax payers shouldn’t have to pay for...” excuse. Fact is, Prince has to rent that hall. The city gets the money. Churches get tax write offs. So should I complain that I, the tax payer, is burdened by religion? Because by their logic, I have a much better argument.

I was a Teenager lady, during the 1980s my opinion only. I was never a fond of the Hip - Hop Rap movement, during the later 1980s and upwards. The vulgarity lyrics were getting worse & worse. The majority of today's Rap music is horrid. And Honestly the R & B Music spiral downhill in the 21st Century🤦🏾‍♀️

Hip Hop is a joke...