When Software Ruins a Decent Controller: GameSir Connect Tour, Dongle Update 

For clarification the software can be made better overtime, but the hardware cannot. Skip to this timestamp (17:33 Final Thoughts on The GameSir Tarantula) before commenting that your software "works flawlessly" or my issues are niche or any other silliness. I review gaming peripherals for a living, I wouldn't go off half-cocked and make a video taking a poopie on a new piece of software unless it genuinely sucked. Furthermore the controller itself other than the TMR sticks is mediocre...or "mid" for the younger audience.

Only one thing made me buy it, shape similar to the ds4 🔥🔥 there is no other pro controller in the market with this specs and this shape.

Crazy you had all those issues. I updated dongle and controller and have had zero disconnects or any other issues. Working perfect. I didn't even have to pair the controller with the dongle again

Had mine for a few days now and didn't have any of the issues mentioned. Updated the firmware on the dongle fine, downloaded the software and adjusted it to my liking successfully. This controller checks all the boxes for me: 1) Accurate and smooth feeling thumbsticks 2) Well placed back buttons 3) Remappable everything that you can also apply keyboard shortcuts to ( I use one button for muting sound and another for muting my mic in discord). 4) Solid feeling mouse-click triggers.

I just want Xbox elite series 3 controller already with better quality bumpers

I really hope they gonna fix the app and the firmware soon. I think the pro tarantula got good potential for emulation and casual gaming. Thanks for the update

I've had two of these controllers, both failed to upgrade with the Connect app. If you upgrade the controller by paring it to an Android device and update the dongle you will be able to use the Connect program wirelessly. Has to be android, my iphone didn't show any updates for it.

Thanks for getting to testing the software so quickly. Seems like a hot mess, and even when it's working fine, it feels like it's no different than running rewasd in terms of being a layer that must be active for reprogramming to work. For the Vader 4 Pro, I guess I was misinformed that the application couldn't reprogram the buttons for alt-tab and profile switching at the same time in the first party software. Might go back to reconsidering it again because of that. I'm honestly just wishing Gulikit also just developed a software to allow for extended remapping since it also has the extra buttons on the controller face. The KK3 max seems like the perfect controller physically with its Xbox elite like paddles, but not having that software nor being available in reWASD is a huge turn off for PC.

I mentioned in a previous video that I could not get the Gamesir Connect software on PC to update the firmware on the Tarantula Pro. I had to use the mobile version of Connect to update the firmware, which was really odd. But the controller worked just fine afterwards. I was able to bind my rear buttons without issue (paying no mind to the front macro buttons) and the mode-switching and other features worked just fine. That said, I will agree that this controller isn't for everyone, and it could have been so much better. Here's hoping the next version (if there is one) goes more smoothly.

Exactly why I asked on the first video what the preferred dongle.

Thank you, was wondering about the software since I saw that one post. Can't wait to hear the follow up for the envision

Absolutely the best way to start a Tuesday morning! Thanks for the vid

just bought this controller boy oh boy chefs kiss this is my go to now

This 3-part spider saga had excited for the controller at first to now holding off and waiting for updates or this G7 pro I’ve been hearing about

Great video was waiting for your in depth review to make a decision. Can you please do in depth on bigbigwon blitz 2

the connect app upgrade messed up the controller , Living in Canada for 20+ years almost forgot, i can read Chinese : D i went to the website and i did the firmware update through their website patch (cuz the connect app kept failing the upgrade) and it fixed all the problems , My controller stick were on inverted and I was losing my mind.

I bought this controller two days ago but immediately felt something strange with the sticks. I just can't get comfortable with it and my aim seems to have something wrong with it. For now the Vader 4 Pro remains the best controller for me.

Great Video‼️ You had the worst of it and I'm glad you brought these things up. Gamesir definitely rushed this and it's bad. I didn't have the issues you had, like I have a stable connection with the app, wired + wireless (after the update on the dongle and didn't unpair the controller). Like everything you said but the opposite actually works. It does have an on board memory for custom kbm binds when switching from PC to Phone. When I make changes it does not disconnect and the polling rate is definitely stable under 1ms both wired + wireless, never went over. Update does work. But yeah, gamesir polish your shit before putting it out there for the consumers, smh. 😅

The reason why I stopped using my X3 mobile controller despite liking it: the app was driving me nuts. Requested weird-ass permissions that sketched me out. No more Gamesir after that

Thanks for the video! Having a lot of the issues you covered

yeah i would send that in for a replacement. i have had no issues updating and navigating the app

12:30 Some controllers are making those noises from series of vibration motors moves when they are trying (and fails) to connect to software. For example, if you try to run 8bitdo firmware update software with Flydigi controller turned on, it will make similar "heartbeat" vibration moves and noises.

we just need the kahlied with trigger stops, rubber grips, tmr joycons, interchangeable stick heights, maybe tension adjustment, and on gamesir nexus app. maybe 1000hz with option with audio port for xbox and weve got an industry leading pro controller. id pay $100 plus for

Thank you for your thorough comprehensive reviews - much appreciated. I recently brought this controller and out of the box the inputs are inverted - if I move the stick left it goes right and vice versa. I tried making changes in the connect software but nothing helps. Also, this slightest input to the sticks results in massive jumps. And the controller won't update firmware on the connect app, or via the dongle method you covered. I think it is just broken from the box. Highly disapointed! Liked and subed.

And thank God armory crate doesn't need to be open to set binds. Set close n never open again till there's a firmware update

Updated my dongle I sit 14 feet away from the tv had no problem great controller

After I updated the PC software, wireless adapter and controller everything except the dpad worked well. I heard going down to 2.2 fixes it. The wireless adapter update only works with the 2.4 controller firmware over wireless. The Gamesir connect application won't recognize the content again unless wired.

I highly suspect that your software experience is just unlucky. My keyboard inputs work wired or wireless via dongle and haven't had any connection dropping and I don't need the software open in the background. I do occasionally have an issue using the dongle that's hard to explain but in short my inputs are just wrong. It is definitely worth a video since who knows what issues someone may have with their controller but may be worth a revisit in the future. Especially if most of the issues can be fixed via updates. That thumb stick issue is really weird tho. 12:04 okay wait, this didn't work for me either. I updated the firmware with an app similar to the dongle one you used but it was on their Chinese website and it was for the "Nine Tailed Fox" which is the same controller. That may be the cause of a lot of your issues that I'm not seeing. Gamesir needs to figure it out smh

I hope you do the Neo S CRKD a controller RU-vidrs say is good but actually trash. I wish someone was more honest when reviewing it

The hex phantom is out with hall effect sticks now I think

0.38 I am able to close my app, and the keyboard bindings I have done on the controller still work. But I am using it wired, maybe that's why.

is the gamesir g7 he worth buying over the tarantula pro?

Wondering if you'll do a review on the GameStop's Candy Con controllers? All the other reviews I've seen for it never go into the full technical aspects.

I wonder if you do the update snd use the app to flash the costom controls like the bsck bottons do they still keep them if you switch over to the pc. Thisi s a big thing for me becouse i realy dont want to worry about having the program on all the time i realy hope they can fix this flaw

Mine works wireless with the app however i have completely diffrent issue my left trigger doesn't work if flip the switch in hair trigger mode. Also when playing Mw3 if i click L3 it will switch my gun into single fire mode which indicates its not only clicking L3 but the left directional key pad too. Im currently in contact with gamesir support but that proving to be an issue too

Not everything thats open source means "Android Friendly" and "Make by Google"

I’m returning mine and just got it yesterday. Every button even tho in software it shows it’s normal back to factory except the two back buttons(happens even if those are reset) every button or thumb stick on controller when pressed or moved all perform the back button or B button on Xbox controller. I program the back buttons and even tho one is A and B the both do the action of B. I love the layout of PlayStation controllers but this is super frustrating. Resetting isn’t working and programming isn’t working. Never even had anything close to this issue with my FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro. Would still use my Vader pro but it lights up but nothing works.

Is there an alternate way to download the connect app because the download fails every single time I try. Keeps telling me to try again later but it's been days and it won't download.

I almost got this, gunna wait it out a lil longer for g7 pro (if they ever drop it) lol

Ahhh... that funky connect app when trying to firmware update the controller. I got that failed error, and when I hit the reset to default button, it made all my button presses, including the triggers, register as "B" button presses. I was ever so close to sending it back to Amazon until I did the firmware update on my phone, and it fixed the issues.

Want to buy the best controller with ps5 design with mouse triggers, hall effect, which controller do you reccomend me? Thank you! Great video

I wish we could have an vader 4 pro level of features/quality but with a playstation layout, I just cant play on asymetric gamepad. So I will have to buy the Tarantura even with all those problems since theres no better option for me

Aye yo kev honest opinion is this a cop or not . Is this equivalent to or better than Vader pro 4 seeing that they are both $70

My Tarantula pro which I ordered late last week came with firmware 1.0.4 when I had it this past Sunday. I had the newest Gamesir Connect app installed for Windows and no matter what I did the app would not update the firmware it would just say it failed. I had to connect the controller to my phone and use the phone app to update the firmware. Now that I have the controller in my hands this controller is not a good controller if you want to use it for a racing game where you need to modulate throttle as the travel of the trigger is very limited compared to my dual sense edge or even the Gamesir t4k I have.

gamsir sowftware and firmware updates are awful, bricked my t4 kaleid after instaling the new kaleid firmware, names are confusing, software is bad, but the worst thing about gamesir is the product support

This is for the captain and all the stallions and stallionets. Which controller do you think has the best software program?

Is the pc app in english now? Thats what ive been waiting for.

it looks ridiculous in the picture but once you have it irl it looks so good doesnt even look cheap. hand feel is great feels like DS4 controller on steroids 🤣 But the only problem I had is Updating the controller Firmware (not the dongle) on their APP it wont let me update it disconnects my controller then stops updating. but I found fix by downloading their controller firmware on a different website forgot the name 🤣

Once I updated the dongle and controller firmware the app works fine in wireless mode for me

Can't we just use REWASD & get it to do whatever we want? Obviously for PC gamers only, which I primarily am & am buying this for.

Better wait for the tarantula 2 or a price cut of this gamepad. Looks really cool but you are right, for the same price you have better options. Still not a bad gamepad but usually people look for the best gamepad for their money.

I'm gonna be disappointed Every day Until we see some TMR dismantling>__>

My stealth ultra pro controller loses connectivity wired all the time. It’s a love hate thing with that controller 😂

Are you ETA prime

Couldn't disagree more. Limited profiles is a joke. I'm all about unlimited profiles, and program detection for auto switching. This has been possible for over 15 years (being conservative). Profiles are KB in size. MB if poorly optimized or absolutely packed with customization. A 1 gb memory module (or even a decent fraction of that) is going to store effectively infinite profiles. Limited profiles is more of a headache than anything. If I'm going to set up profiles, I want to for every application. Otherwise would rather just set it up once, and use third party software to make it unlimited. Those "better" gamepads are trash. Circle d-pads. I've used plenty of circle d-pads, and they'll get you by for some cases. But leave you pulling your hair out for precision platforms. For those who limit their gaming to a scope that doesn't need a good gamepad, sure, for them these are completely valid. I still don't get why a company would make a deliberately worse gamepad, other than maybe it's perceived as more comfortable to the thumb. But fair enough if you don't have the needs. Turbo is filth (forget the exact descriptive)? Nice gatekeeping. Enough acknowledgement of that. 3 macro buttons that the Tarantula has is a good thing? I mean, this is only true by comparison to how bad gamepad software is. Once again like profiles, don't limit it. Whatever the user wants to set up. This is the worst thing I saw about the software. The tuning is good for FPS and racing games. Playing FPS on a gamepad is already ridiculous. Popular, yes. But ridiculous unless you want to handicap yourself. Yes, I know there's rare exceptions. The only way to make gamepad compeditive (besides aim assist coded into a game, which MASSIVELY more game destroying than turbo) is with gyro. Yet that's also brushed asside as "inconsequential". I agree though, the controller should let you store at least a default profile on it. I agree though, the disconnect is ridiculous. You mentioned an insanely high number of USB ports built into your PC. It could be that you essentially have USB hub splitting, just that its internal. I don't know this for a fact, but just a thought. However, 9/10 times when something says don't use a hub, it doesn't matter. It's fine that you have the opinions presented in the video. It just couldn't be more far off from my wants or expectations based on things that have existed in the past. I'm trying to present that there are DRASTICALLY different takes on "best".

My firmware messed up my Tarantula pro.

Almost bought this controller but decided on the Vader 4 Pro instead. kind of glad I did tbh.

Two back buttons are slow

I didn't get this controller solely because of the recessed port. I found out all of my other GameSir cables were hitching and stuttering my computer (tested with different brand controllers and against my new quality cables), so as long as this company requires specific sized cables, I ain't humoring those products.

It remapped all my buttons to b

The app is awful