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When The NHL Playoffs Are 'Rigged' (RD 2) 

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Ahh yes - it wouldn’t be the NHL playoffs without fan bases losing their mind & legitimately believing the league is rigged. It’s been a wild 2nd round of the NHL playoffs, so let’s cover all the strategies, storylines & conspiracies so far in round 2
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@victorsi
@victorsi 14 дней назад
The officials are not referees anymore. They’re just game managing.
@thomasrascati4340
@thomasrascati4340 14 дней назад
Anymore? They've never been!
@Desert-Father
@Desert-Father 14 дней назад
More like game manipulators. NHL is approaching WWE territory.
@cheddartheadventurer7511
@cheddartheadventurer7511 14 дней назад
Ref back in the day here: Always have been.
@victorsi
@victorsi 14 дней назад
lol, sorry I called them refs. What a joke.
@Desert-Father
@Desert-Father 14 дней назад
@victorsi the refs are the real joke. The more the league resist the calls for reform, the worse the scandal will become.
@Desert-Father
@Desert-Father 14 дней назад
Not a Boston or Florida fan, but NHL refs have been increasing suspect over the last few years. Their credibility has never recovered from the Tim Peel Hot Mic scandal. With increased sports betting, there is more incentive than ever for the refs to effect games. If fans have no confidence in the refs either because of their corruption and/or their incompetence, then the popularity of the sport will suffer.
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 14 дней назад
There’s been bad calls all series, the E rod elbow, the high stick that directly lead to a bruins goal game 1, the 6 consecutive elbows never called on the bruins towards the end of one of the games, etc. A few missed calls isn’t gonna stop the cats when they recorded the same shots on net in one night that the bruins have in the entire series thus far.
@ryancoli501
@ryancoli501 14 дней назад
Look at the records for both teams the last two years with that ref crew… Boston 8-0-2 and Florida with losing record. I love the panthers but agree that was prob not a good goal… calling it a conspiracy is not serious however.
@adamg7984
@adamg7984 14 дней назад
If you genuinely didn't know that even up calls were a thing years before the Tim Peel hot mic, then I really ask how long you've been a hockey follower. That's been something that NHL officials, and even down to beer league officials for that matter, have done for as long as I can remember. The refs have always been inconsistent and will always be the favorite scape goat of any fan who can't accept their team losing. It's never the players who cry about it like it was the only reason they lost. At most, it's mentioned as a factor by the coach and maybe a few players but they know the responsibility lies with them. Every person who cries about officiating, it just makes me wonder if they played sports before. Like this is the same shit you'll see in pee-wee hockey, bro. It's just humans will never be consistent no matter how much you wish they were.
@TonyRedunzo
@TonyRedunzo 14 дней назад
@Desert-Father Thanks, I thought I was the only one questioning the refs behavior. It's not just the bruins/panthers. Refs are protecting McDavid after he slashed Quinn Hughes' neck and drew blood but refs usually protect the stars. And the refs play dumb during the playoffs. Hadn't thought of the gambling angle cause I don't throw my $ away. I love hockey-only sport I watch but i can't stand the owners, Bettman or senior management. NHL is FUBAR
@robertdevoid8345
@robertdevoid8345 14 дней назад
Crosschecks need to be called
@GhostRavenFIN
@GhostRavenFIN 14 дней назад
I'm a Panthers fan, and *that* goal really wrecked my head. I don't think anything's rigged, but that was a stupid call. Coyle was clearly in the way of Swayman and unable to make space or clear the puck and that was only because of the cross-check.
@cannedpineapple2702
@cannedpineapple2702 14 дней назад
100% agree as a fellow Cats fan.
@bradleyroth9870
@bradleyroth9870 14 дней назад
You score the goal without crosschecking the player on top of his own goalie. Like legally.
@Slipp_P
@Slipp_P 14 дней назад
How I see it (just a Wild/hockey fan), Coyle was already in the goalies way. He entered the crease on his own. The shove just allowed Bennett to shoot the puck.
@headshot22331
@headshot22331 14 дней назад
@@Slipp_PI kinda agree. I think the shove/crosscheck sealed the deal. But without it the goal chance was still pretty high. Which is most likely why it wasnt called a bad goal. I think a lot of the anger comes from that what happened is almost straight from the rule book a bad goal, yet the officiating still said good goal. Like HP said, nobody knows the rule, not even the refs lol
@jesusrivera2970
@jesusrivera2970 14 дней назад
@@Slipp_P DING DING DING DING DING 🛎️
@wavesofbabies
@wavesofbabies 14 дней назад
I don't believe in a league wide conspiracy. But I do believe, as a *Habs* fan wanting only for Boston to suffer, that that Panthers goal shouldn't have counted.
@kenlightbody6205
@kenlightbody6205 14 дней назад
It definitely diminishes the enjoyment of watching the sport when the officials and the league put this on display!
@edl5553
@edl5553 14 дней назад
Watch something else and stop crying. 😮
@Tough_luck_kid
@Tough_luck_kid 13 дней назад
@@edl5553 someday it will be your team on the receiving end of bias calls, I’m sure you’ll be just as enthusiastic then you smooth brain
@nopenopenope131
@nopenopenope131 12 дней назад
@@edl5553 This is not the 3rd grade playground no matter how much you wish you had stayed there.
@russellswinehammer772
@russellswinehammer772 14 дней назад
You won't hear this much, from me, but I agree with Boston. %100
@ajtheboss5115
@ajtheboss5115 14 дней назад
After watching game 2 of the Oilers in Vancouver series I can't believe this officiating is allowed in the league
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 14 дней назад
Nobody watched it outside of Edmonton and LA, but it was going on in round 1 too. Refs got a hole to dig themselves of if they wanna get Mickey the cup…
@lime7494
@lime7494 14 дней назад
Kelly Sutherland is STILL going
@user-dm4cg1nt9k
@user-dm4cg1nt9k 14 дней назад
They want looser McDavid to get to the cup
@mr2_mike
@mr2_mike 12 дней назад
Following the Oilers and the LA series and Van series, heavily favourite Oilers for sure. Diving call in a deciding game?? They're knowing the Oilers PP is hot. Easy to dictate the game by the refs.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 12 дней назад
@@mr2_mike 💯
@gingabread2690
@gingabread2690 14 дней назад
since sports betting became so mainstream i have been questioning the whole integrity of the NHL.
@generationxpvp
@generationxpvp 14 дней назад
If you think the NHL is bad watch the NBA. Both are actually becoming unwatchable
@c-rod512
@c-rod512 14 дней назад
@@generationxpvp these playoffs have been making me schizophrenic as a boston fan
@boomboxwagon
@boomboxwagon 14 дней назад
the only sport to bet on i feel that isn't some sort of rigged is where the dogs chase the bunny thing but that can still be rigged too.
@illwillsquared
@illwillsquared 14 дней назад
the nHL has no intergrity and never has. Look at its fucking owner bud.
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 14 дней назад
There’s been bad calls all series, the E rod elbow, the high stick that directly lead to a bruins goal game 1, the 6 consecutive elbows never called on the bruins towards the end of one of the games, etc. A few missed calls isn’t gonna stop the cats when they recorded the same shots on net in one night that the bruins have in the entire series thus far. 🤣 copium
@MichaelConroy7
@MichaelConroy7 14 дней назад
Dallas is scary good! So many goals throughout the whole team! They are the team to beat at the moment. Greetings from Dundee, Scotland!! UK
@Chriscam2you
@Chriscam2you 14 дней назад
Even better than I originally assessed, I am now picking them as likely to take home the cup.
@staffan144
@staffan144 14 дней назад
Colorado's weakness is their goaly
@lil_wick
@lil_wick 14 дней назад
@@staffan144I thought that in the first game but as the series went on it showed me that their goalie just isn’t getting much help. He’s constantly seeing redirections in his own zone or center ice & the defense never seems ready enough for the turnovers to help him. He’s been making some good stops the last couple games but every goalie is gonna let in a couple & with the lack of defense help & stars shutting down the avs offense, the avs haven’t been able to even it out. i’ll take it tho, Go Stars
@AC-gw4qu
@AC-gw4qu 14 дней назад
@@lil_wick Yup. The Avs' lack of team defence is clear. It's less evident when you can score 4-5 goals a game, but when you're lucky to get 3, you notice that they can't keep the puck out of their net. Makar was exposed on the shortie last night. He's thinking about what he's going to do 190ft down the ice instead of how to get past the man on his own goalie.
@unclebitchie
@unclebitchie 14 дней назад
Yeah, I’m an Oilers fan, and I’ve been saying all along that if the Oil do advance, I’d much rather them play the Avs because Dallas is too scary. After that EXTREMELY dominant win today, I can’t see them not being in the finals for the West.
@markdotinc8371
@markdotinc8371 14 дней назад
What pissed me off? The entire sequence that resulted in the Soucy suspension was started by Mcdavid, and ended by Hyman. And yet here we are.
@rexradar9297
@rexradar9297 14 дней назад
Step one jawing between CMD and CS. Step 2 CS shoves CMD. Step 3 CMD does a light two hander while slipping to the side against CS's pads. Step 4 CMD recovers posture. CS returns with a light slash on the pads of his own. Step 5 CMD is cross checked from behind by NZ, resulting in CMD buckling and falling forward. Step 6 CS goes to cross stick shove CMD up high, but due to step 4 gets him in the face. Step 7 full scrum ensues behind the net, with some shoving, wrestling and light punches by all skaters on the ice. I agree NHL player safety screwed up. CMD should have been fined. NZ should have a one game suspension. CS should have received nothing. The was also a couple of missed calls in game two that drew blood. Overall not impressed with the post whistle reviews this spring in many of the series.
@kaneox123
@kaneox123 14 дней назад
The only problem I have is that McJesus wasn’t fined.
@absolvd
@absolvd 14 дней назад
NOBODY gets more preferential treatment from the refs than Edmonton.
@headintheclouds6935
@headintheclouds6935 14 дней назад
​@@kaneox123NHL wouldn't dare punish their golden boy. He doesn't get anything for putting his stick in another's face but when it happens to him, it's a game suspension
@maxcomrie4011
@maxcomrie4011 14 дней назад
@@absolvdthat's why Nurse got the weakest penalty I've ever witnessed in a playoff game on Sunday. Pull your head out of your ass
@parrydox.gaming
@parrydox.gaming 14 дней назад
The NHL’s explanation of why they allowed that goal is bizarre as F. One it’s been called a cross check forever. Two, this is literal definition of the goaltender interference rule via NHL. “If a defending player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by an attacking player so as to cause the defending player to come into contact with his own goalkeeper, such contact shall be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, and if necessary a penalty assessed to the attacking player and if a goal is scored it would be disallowed.” Therefore, whether the save was a possibility or not, that’s goaltender interference. The argument over whether it could’ve been saved or not isn’t one that’s needed to be had. Coyle had the positioning to defend the rebound via skate or stick, and Swayman had no chance to get over. He’s insanely flexible. It’s not just this. The sucker punch by Bennett was during a game that the NHL issued warning pregame to both teams saying that the game would be heavily scrutinized. Bennett has used this type of sneaky sucker punch many times already. He actually uses the stick as well to make partial contact. How Player Safety didn’t even have a talk with Bennett is beside me. There is a video of a net scrum in front of Swayman where he has control of the puck and despite a whistle, Tkachuck does the exact same sucker punch attempt with one hand on his stick but misses Swayman’s face. Look it up. The Bruins organization hasn’t been able to absolutely crush the NHL and refs because Jeremy Jacobs is one of the most uncaring, stingiest, money hungry owners ever. He clearly put a gag order out on everyone. For Cam Neely to not even leave his office during the press conference shows that he just said F it all then. The worst part about all of this is that when you try to have an open dialogue about it, You get everyone coming at your throat saying you’re whining, making excuses, blaming the refs, Marchand deserves it, etc.. Do people not realize that Bruins fans are clearly aware of their lack of offensive production and ability to play their game effectively? You can call these plays for what they are without being a homer. Bruins were heavy underdogs going into this series. They lost their 1C, 2C, 1/2Winger & more. They’ve overachieved. All of these incidents and more that have occurred truly make my “spidey sense” tingle. Something fishy is going on. Whether win or lose, the Bruins are always a top 5 revenue generating team; 1.5B+. The Panthers yearly revenue is less than half the Bruins. They’re 30th in revenue yearly. Gary Bettman knows that the Panthers have untapped potential revenue wise if they can draw fans in. Biggest way to do so? Win in the playoffs. It’s all about getting Florida closer to the revenue of other teams close by such as Tampa Bay. In the end, it’s always about money. Player safety and ensuring the integrity of the game means nothing; except if it’s done to a superstar who pulls in massive money via apparel sales & attendance. As a lifelong diehard fan of hockey for 35+ years, I’m losing interest at a massive rate. New York Rangers crush either team anyway next round and I’m all for it.
@christinelangin7209
@christinelangin7209 14 дней назад
@parrydox.gaming well & accurately written-I also see I need to watch some of the officiating of these other games cuz it does INDEED appear to be a trend!!
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
You summed this up (pretty much exactly how I feel about it) really well. And you absolute nailed it…if you even try to have an open dialogue about it we are labeled whiners, losers and hypocrites. All because everyone just already hates Brad Marchand and Boston sports. Disappointing and infuriating tbh. Any true fan of the sport should be incensed by this
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
Even down to the point about how the league has more to gain in the longterm by heavily expanding into southern markets lol. This could provide a clear motive for why they would actually prefer a relatively unpopular and historically unmarketable team (ESPECIALLY in a market like Florida) over a massive money ball like the Bruins. Why? Well let’s just look at history. Bruins fans will lineup and pay for their $25 beers no matter how many times they fold or get screwed over in the playoffs. But think about it, you’re starting to see more NHL players coming out of Florida. There’s a treasure trove for the NHL and southern markets of untapped potential. If multiple recent Stanley Cup teams are on every billboard and magazine in the sunshine state, all those the little tots grow up wanting to be like Matthew Tkachuk…well, that’s millions and millions and millions and millions of potential more dollars that didn’t exist before…. people are just looking at this stuff on the surface level. It goes deeper than almost anyone could imagine
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
At the end of the day, anyone who says professional sports couldn’t possibly be rigged are just naïve. Professional sports are legally classified as entertainment. There is absolutely nothing in the world stopping them from steering a game or entire series toward their desired outcome for entertainment and/or FINANCIAL purposes. Same with the draft lol
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
Wow I left a long comment detailing exactly why it would be entirely plausible that the NHL would prefer the Panthers over the Bruins and the specific series and it got magically deleted. Imagine that! 😂
@redsr9990
@redsr9990 14 дней назад
Bad officiating is a tale as old as time. I usually chalk it up to be maybe being in a bad angle, because things look different on the ice, but that goalie interference call was pretty hard to swallow after a video review. There is a pretty clear rule on the books for this, so it really blows my mind, and I have no dog in that fight.
@dadaustin4570
@dadaustin4570 14 дней назад
The way to fix this is the refs meet post game with the media to review tape and explain each penalty called
@garrettgold
@garrettgold 14 дней назад
Yea
@flybynight1929
@flybynight1929 14 дней назад
There's nothing to fix, the refs are not infallible, so deal with it.
@Spanishflea.
@Spanishflea. 14 дней назад
The refs don't make the call It's the warroom in Toronto.
@vincmontecristo439
@vincmontecristo439 14 дней назад
That'll be a useless waste of time. They'll just say that all their calls were right and just tell you what the rule says.
@user-oc9fn4uu2y
@user-oc9fn4uu2y 14 дней назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@imclueless9875
@imclueless9875 14 дней назад
The refs ALL year have seriously been the biggest embarrassment in the history of NHL. They ALL need to be replaced.
@tulms6307
@tulms6307 13 дней назад
So when are you getting out there.
@tulms6307
@tulms6307 13 дней назад
So when are you getting out there.
@josephkefel
@josephkefel 13 дней назад
@@tulms6307he will
@imclueless9875
@imclueless9875 13 дней назад
@@tulms6307 If i was allowed 100% i would.
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 7 дней назад
People say this every year
@TheDarkestDestroyer
@TheDarkestDestroyer 14 дней назад
I'm the Vancouver series you missed that Hyman cross-checked zadorov in the face in that same play that required stitches and he went unpunished. The NHL will do everything they can to help McDavid.
@methany8788
@methany8788 14 дней назад
Watching that in the Soucy suspension video, right as they're saying "that is cross-checking" had me rolling on the floor.
@alexandersiver
@alexandersiver 13 дней назад
its actually crazy the excuses crynucks fans come up with up 2-1
@wingsonl
@wingsonl 13 дней назад
@@alexandersiver Let us know when u can beat us without sutherland
@jamesharris4041
@jamesharris4041 13 дней назад
Oilers are a one trick pony show. Conor McCrybaby channeling Gretzky with his constant whining at the refs.
@Lazorvictory
@Lazorvictory 13 дней назад
@@jamesharris4041 i dont think making to the playoffs consistently is a one trick pony show, you have to be good enough to make it there in the first place.
@rejean2744
@rejean2744 14 дней назад
The league's explanation, on Bennet's goal, makes no sense.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 14 дней назад
Everything to do surrounding Bennett NOT getting punished makes no Fu king sense
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 14 дней назад
The push was so light coyle either flopped or is made of paper 😂. Coyle was already well in the crease in front of swayman moments before Bennett touched him, the only question is did Sam’s push fully cause the blockage, was Charlie far enough away that the push was the thing that caused swayman to not be able to slide? No, Charlie was already well into the blue/crease in the literal exact location swayman had to be to make that play just moments before Sam touched him, so without the push swayman still most likely can’t make that save with Coyle right in the way, or at least taking the goal away is very hard and it should be a hard call since it’s difficult to make the argument it was Sam’s fault when Charlie was already in the exact space Jeremy had to be before the push was initiated
@AC-gw4qu
@AC-gw4qu 14 дней назад
@@NicEeEe843 "Coyle was already well in the crease in front of swayman" Yes. That's exactly the problem. You can hit a player outside of the crease, but not in the crease when it causes them to come into contact with or fall on the goalie. That's what Bennett did: hit him into the blue paint, to contact the goalie. That's precisely the language of the rule that makes this no goal. Moreover without the crosscheck (it's not a "push" when you hit a player with your stick) Coyle has an opportunity to play the puck or to prevent Bennett from making a play on the puck. It's not complicated. If you disagree, you may be a Panthers' fan, but you're not a fan of hockey. That's not a hockey play.
@emceezeee
@emceezeee 14 дней назад
100% that was a crosscheck into the goalie, that was an awful call
@rogerpowers3891
@rogerpowers3891 14 дней назад
@@AC-gw4qu It doesn’t change the fact that Coyle is facing the goalie. That goal is less likely to happen if Coyle turns his ass around. Can’t deny it. Players are literally taught this in mites.
@macsvoltage5723
@macsvoltage5723 14 дней назад
Lets just be honest. The NHL is slowly becoming the WWF. Even worse, the NHL is promoting betting that eventually causes players with gambling addictions to potentially throw games.
@bmac4
@bmac4 14 дней назад
Compared to the NBA or NFL this is nothing tbh lol
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 7 дней назад
You mean players wouldn’t bet on their own team 😭
@jkriz6346
@jkriz6346 14 дней назад
With the Bruins series, there have been COUNTLESS questionable penalty calls (Lauko interference, Maroon high stick, McAvoys interference, Lindholm interference) that 1. Restrict the bruins from generating offense because they’re always on the penalty kill and 2. Puts into question the NHLs handling of this series. If they’re gonna “scrutinize” the “dirty play”of the Bruins/Panthers, Bennett should’ve been suspended, the goal shouldn’t have counted, and countless others. Now that the NHL’s policing of this is a joke, players do not care about the hits they’re going to make. I’m not sure how the slightest infractions and common occurrences (Maroons high stick, Lindholm interference) are called as penalties and giving the panthers an obvious edge.
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 14 дней назад
There’s been bad calls all series, the E rod elbow, the high stick that directly lead to a bruins goal game 1, the 6 consecutive elbows never called on the bruins towards the end of one of the games, etc. Acting like a few missed calls isn’t gonna stop the cats when they recorded the same shots on net in one night that the bruins have in the entire series thus far.
@therecanbeonly1497
@therecanbeonly1497 14 дней назад
The problem is the inevitable result of the non calls. At some point, the players will police the play on the ice and someone like Bennett will end up getting very hurt in a very ugly play - likely after he's done the same to someone else.
@jkriz6346
@jkriz6346 14 дней назад
@@therecanbeonly1497 I totally agree. I can see why they called Lauko on the goalie interference because he barreled in Bob, but he was literally held and pushed into him by the Panthers dman. Im just not sure why so many of these "soft" (plays that are not totally penalties) are called on the Bruins while they are not called on the panthers
@jkriz6346
@jkriz6346 14 дней назад
@@NicEeEe843 I do believe the panthers are the better team. They have outclassed the Bruins in many facets. But the obvious bias from the referees in numerous calls have prevented the Bruins from generating offense and having a chance to actually do anything. Its not a few missed calls when 3 (arguably 4) of the 5 penalties (not counting the minor due to the challenge, which was bs) were HORRIBLE calls. A tap on the visor is NOT a high stick. A shoulder to shoulder check is not interference. The Lindholm interference was embellishment. All of these penalties allow the Cats to generate more offense. It doesn't take a lot to see that more powerplays=more shots for the team benefitting and less shots for the team defending
@larrywilliams8063
@larrywilliams8063 14 дней назад
It's not like the Bs haven't gotten away with stuff all season. I remember marchand elbowing a king in the face and the league did nothing. They have historically been one of the dirtiest teams in the league. With that said, I want the refs to make the calls when it happens. Putting a free hand on a player isn't holding, once you tug a jersey they should make the call. Now goaltender interference is a whole different mess. I've been watching hockey for over 40 years and have never seen it called consistently. Once day it's let the boys play, the next Mike Smith is rolling around on the ice holding his mask acting like he'd been shot. I never did figure out how his mask could hurt so much...
@Pekka.Pekka.1296
@Pekka.Pekka.1296 14 дней назад
I'd never thought I could hate a team more than Boston, but Florida made a step-up.
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 14 дней назад
Coyle was already in the crease, the hit doesn’t even matter when he was already in the exact position swayman had to be to make that save. That’s what was being reviewed in Toronto, and they saw coyle in the exact location swayman had to move, that makes overturning it significantly harder to call
@Pekka.Pekka.1296
@Pekka.Pekka.1296 14 дней назад
@@NicEeEe843 Yes. And the goaltender interference was verofied not the brutal cross-check before the goal. Great referees real-life rules. Bravo. Not to mention the punch into Marchand’s face in the 3rd match. When teams are so close these “subtleties” count.
@rickbold9337
@rickbold9337 14 дней назад
Exactly my thoughts. I’m starting to hate Florida more than the Bruins. Especially Tkachuk and Bennet. Hate dirty players!
@Enkonstigtyp
@Enkonstigtyp 14 дней назад
@@NicEeEe843 thats not the point. There was goaltender interferance. If and how swayman would make the save does not matter. Its not up to the referee to make up an alternative future. Call the interferance, cus thats the only thing we know happened.
@tylerporter1128
@tylerporter1128 14 дней назад
@@Pekka.Pekka.1296 you dsid not just call that a "brutal cross-check" that just shows your bias lol, he tapped him.
@achroniccarebear7464
@achroniccarebear7464 14 дней назад
"What pissed you off" Oh boy - I just don't understand (well I do) why Hyman isn't getting a game as well, seeing as the reasoning they gave Soucy is the exact same situation Hyman was in when he joined that scrum. "Not a hockey play", check. "Stick raised to an unacceptably high level", (He cross checked Big Z in the head so yeah, he had to raise it to 6'6 to get there), "Happened well after the end of the game", check. But the NHL wants to make their money, so they can't punish one of EDM's top scorers, bewildered. And before any EDM fans get their panties in a bunch and say "Well he was defending his captain" - by that logic the next time Kane gives Hughes a slew-foot that means it's open season on his head too then, yeah? OOF.
@scottyboy6269
@scottyboy6269 14 дней назад
Hyman crosscheck right after lol. Skinner is getting hung out to dry by oilers D...Boeser clear shooting lanes all the time
@3tommygunns3
@3tommygunns3 14 дней назад
I'm a Leafs fan, so definitely not a Brad Marchand fan. I just can understand how so called "player safety" can look at that hit and not give a suspension. he absolutely thrusts his fist forward to make it primary point of contact, it's even worse than the clothesline he gave to Matthew Knies last year In both cases those players missed the following game, I get it's the playoffs and all, but you can't 2 separate sets of rules. Also, that not being goalie interference is crazy to me
@gangganggamer9974
@gangganggamer9974 14 дней назад
As a bruins fan. There have been plenty of questionable calls primarily for the panthers gain. But that doesn’t mean you just stop attacking and stop shooting the puck. The panthers are very good but they’re not some monster that can’t be taken down. Most of the bruins problems are on the bruins right now they need to find a way to create more offense and get more pucks on net even if they aren’t good shots I think we’ve seen that quality over quantity only goes so far.
@EmporerSprinkel
@EmporerSprinkel 14 дней назад
Bruins only way of creating offense is by injuring the other team Floridas beating them at their own game taste of their own medicine
@gangganggamer9974
@gangganggamer9974 14 дней назад
@@EmporerSprinkel nah you’re actually dumb if you think the bruins from years ago is the same team now
@bretthogan5805
@bretthogan5805 14 дней назад
​@@EmporerSprinkel Dumb comment. Watch another sport
@johnsmith7345
@johnsmith7345 14 дней назад
the Bruins have no answer to Barkov they are gone in 5
@lightningsrt4707
@lightningsrt4707 14 дней назад
Sounds like a Boston fan as usual. Crying crying crying
@avsrule247
@avsrule247 14 дней назад
I think it's obvious that the leagues explanation of the goal was simply to protect the referees
@rangers1919
@rangers1919 12 дней назад
It was so funny listening to the announcers try to create a reason to justify the call .
@mattm8108
@mattm8108 14 дней назад
I saw a stat somewhere that in this years playoffs only one of four goalie interference challenges were overturned, and the one was in favor of the Panthers (last round)
@BrodyCanuck
@BrodyCanuck 14 дней назад
When the playoffs are rigged the canucks get suspended for an accidental hit to the face, meanwhile Hyman crosschecks Zadorov purposely in the face with the exact same hit while Zadorov is a giant and wasnt falling over, McDavid is allowed to purposely slash Hughes in the face and draw blood without penalty, two oilers are allowed to slew foot canucks players dangerously without repercussions, Nurse is allowed to hit Pettersson from behind head first into the boards nearly breaking his neck, and Oilers are allowed to spear Hoglander in the nuts.
@g.w.7893
@g.w.7893 14 дней назад
This*
@sauceking3344
@sauceking3344 13 дней назад
Absolutely. Anyone who knows hockey at all could see this series and how the Canucks would be up 3-0 if not for the fixing in game 2, and now it continues into game 4.. the audacity for some delusional oilers fans to be complaining about the refs on their side is outstanding.
@steveb8764
@steveb8764 13 дней назад
Ummmm…? Go Nucks. That was quite the spiel. Enjoy the playoffs, it’s good hockey.
@balfizan
@balfizan 14 дней назад
OK I am not actually wearing a tinfoil hat here but I can see where some people could be convinced theres something sus going on with regards to the Panthers. Way way back in 2010 the VP of Hockey Operations for the NHL, Colin Campbell, sent the Director of Officiating emails complaining about a bunch of on ice calls and one referee he eventually got fired in particular. Many of the calls he was complaining about involved his son Gregory, these emails were one might say overly harsh and definitely profanity laden. This all came out and there was a little bit of a scandal about it but it wasn't big news outside of very invested hockey fans. Campbell apologized and kept his job, he is in fact still the Director of Hockey Operations. Gregory his son is no longer playing but he is the Assistant General Manager of the Florida Panthers. So one of the three most powerful executives in the league offices who is known for cursing out his subrodinates in person and via email for making questionable calls regarding his son is still in a position of power. And maybe, just maybe this might be going through the minds of those head officials as theyre looking over the tape of that goal to determine if it should be called back. The Panthers still deserved to win that game they were outplaying the Bruins but this isnt a good look for NHL officiating.
@WilliamTheDestroyer.
@WilliamTheDestroyer. 14 дней назад
Wow! Nothing about the blind-eye attacks on Hughes, just poor poor McBaby.
@lucky9er567
@lucky9er567 14 дней назад
i hate the bruins, i hate the panthers but c'mon. I'm not saying any of this changed the game or the series but bennet sucker punched marchand, thats a suspension. bennet cross checked coyle into swayman, that is goaltender interference.
@gwynbliedd_
@gwynbliedd_ 14 дней назад
Not according to the NHL. They set a precedent. Wouldn’t be surprised if Boston goes out there looking for blood since it’s apparently allowed
@burningblue1254
@burningblue1254 14 дней назад
The rules are not followed. The rule states you cannot interfere or impede another player if they don't have the puck. Yet this goes on continuously especially in front of the net. You can't push interfere etc. a player unless he has the puck. It seems now anything goes. It's ruining the game.
@adamg7984
@adamg7984 14 дней назад
Yeah man, that shits been a part of hockey forever though. Net front battles are literally a part of the game. You're absolutely allowed in hockey to battle for ice position, you are allowed to do that. You're not allowed to interfere with someone in the course of going for the puck, typically. That's how it's called. I don't even understand why so many are upset about this shit. I've seen similar plays a lot that aren't called interference. The only difference is that Coyle fell on Swayman but I don't think Swayman can make that save anyway and the shove came right as the puck was being bounced to Bennett. My guess is they felt Swayman wouldn't have made the save and Coyle wouldn't have been able to play the puck so they felt it didn't impact the play. But that's also not at all consistent with what other officials would call and that's where people get upset. But we won't ever have consistency to the levels that claims of fixing and favoritism will go away.
@madderlakevideoproductions4560
@madderlakevideoproductions4560 14 дней назад
Boston plays similar games like this too though. Look at series 1, Marchand cork screw trips Bertuzzi in the middle of the ice and no call on the play allows for Boston to score. You have to muscle past the cheap shots.
@burningblue1254
@burningblue1254 14 дней назад
Hockey players are entertainers no different than singers, dancers, etc. So the question is the NHL willing to compromise their own rules to make the game more entertaining. In my view yes. I find the game far from the earlier days of Hockey when it was passing and stick handling and skating. Now it's roller derby on ice.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 14 дней назад
@@adamg7984 Bingo. I was going to type the same words. Thank you.
@zachellis1902
@zachellis1902 14 дней назад
just about every game this post season has had horrible officiating. Its gotten to the point where I am not watching anymore because I see no calls on one team for the whole game and bs calls on the other side. My team isn't in the post season this year so I was watching to watch but its horrible.
@PlaidHiker
@PlaidHiker 14 дней назад
Welcome to the club. I love my cities team, but I realized a while ago, it is often not up to skill, but an inconsistent refs decision
@mcthunderstick2374
@mcthunderstick2374 14 дней назад
Me too, after that garbage call on Draisaitl lead to a PP for the Canucks leading to goal one, I knew it would be other referee meltdown so I turned off the game. I’m not an Oilers fan, just tired of watching hockey games decided by poor officiating.
@HarryANuis-gi9hz
@HarryANuis-gi9hz 14 дней назад
This season and last season felt especially bad. Last season we basically just watched Florida and Vegas avoid multiple suspensions until they got to the final….
@thursdaythrice
@thursdaythrice 14 дней назад
How about the controversial dive, I mean interference penality that lead to that PP. All involving a guy that should have been suspended.
@thetruthhurts6652
@thetruthhurts6652 14 дней назад
I dont know what you’re talking about and even if you are right you are saying two wrongs make a right and excuses the bone head officials and NHL?
@175gOFdisc
@175gOFdisc 14 дней назад
and anyone who thinks the punch was fine bc it was on marchand is in agreeance that it was a sucker punch, so every 'couldnt happen to a nicer guy' comment thinks it should be a suspension
@arnavshah8131
@arnavshah8131 14 дней назад
@@175gOFdisc And basically every dirty thing Marchand has done, he's been suspended for. It makes no sense.
@trama110
@trama110 14 дней назад
I couldn't resist when I saw Hockey Psychology. I'm a Bruins fan. The ref's are not the reason they are losing this series. Look at the stats as you already stated, HP. The Bruins beat the panthers in all five meetings this regular season. There is a post season adjustment teams have to make to advance in the brackets. They have to adjust to their opponent in each round. Sometimes each game. The Bruins cannot perform this adjustment as they displayed last year and are this year. Each team can play a certain style that other teams can't match and advance until you are matched evenly or unevenly. Then, you make the adjustment. Dirty plays are always happening in the games. We don't notice it as often until everything is going wrong for a team and we look for an excuse as to why. I agree there are bad calls that have lead to deciding goals in games, but again, teams need to focus on scoring goals. I've seen four goals scored in under a minute by the same team. Now, each team has sixty minutes on the ice to put a puck in the net as many times as often until the horn blows and in the end the scoreboard decides. The Bruins have been shut down by the Panthers. Boston needs to figure it out and score goals. Period! At the end of the game, again, what ever is on the score boards decides. Now, on the other side of things I'll leave you with this: I have to ask when a man punches another man in the side of the head from behind and goes on to win the championship, does that represent excellence? The mark of a champion? That's a sham and it is why the NHL is fifth overall in major professional sports in North America. I apologize for my diatribe. Peace out.
@randoir1863
@randoir1863 14 дней назад
The Stars are doing to the AVS what the Avs did to the Jets in rd 1 . Oilers still can't get good goaltending or depth scoring . Canucks are just happy to be where they are . Carolina refuses to go quietly and the Rangers appearing to on their way to another choke job . Florida lives rent free in the Bruins head after last season . Marchand got marchanded and doesn't like how it tastes . Bennett is doing doing what it takes to help his team win by any means necessary !!!
@qwerty112311
@qwerty112311 14 дней назад
Avs suck pp and even worse since known-quantity-addict choo choo train got suspended. even after getting an unjustified $40mm+ long term contract, he couldn’t get his shit together. Sad situation, but the reality is that most addicts relapse and you have to be bonkers to give one an 8 year contract in the immediate aftermath of his playoff antics last year. Hopefully they can’t get out of the contract and are stuck paying $40 million for their idiocy.
@lil_wick
@lil_wick 14 дней назад
@@qwerty112311 As a stars fan i’m just hoping Nich can get himself sorted out during this suspension. I hope he can take that money & put it towards help for whatever underlying mental issue is causing him to patch it with substances. Hockey aside, he’s still somebody’s son & friend so it sucks watching that unfold & on a personal level I hope he comes out of the other side a better, healthier person
@jsequine927
@jsequine927 14 дней назад
Canucks just happy to be there?! To date, no team in the playoffs has had to grind out more results and show more resilience than Vancouver has. Canucks have won the most games on the road this playoffs. They came from 4-2 down in the 3rd to win game 1 and won game three in Edmonton to lead the series 2-1 and they’re still making up the numbers?
@daveg-Vancouver_Island
@daveg-Vancouver_Island 14 дней назад
Canucks just happy to be where they are? Hahhahaha well they should be considering they’re playing against McCrybaby, never seen such a whiner in the league for a while now!! All the coilers have is the whiner and Leon, who blames the posts for not getting goals on our 3rd string goalie, like most others have said, it’s the shooters fault, maybe aim better!! lol but yea, blame everyone,thing but yourselves, speaks volumes about what a great team should be like! Hahahha
@rodneydecormier1504
@rodneydecormier1504 14 дней назад
FloriDuh’s ability to forecheck is because they are allowed to by the refs. The Bruins can’t because of dumb/bias calls like the Geekie interference call. Questionable at best. FloriDuh is allowed to make that same play all the time. The ice is tilted. And it’s because of the officiating.
@laronda10
@laronda10 14 дней назад
I find it a bit crazy bennett not getting at least talked to by the league for that punch
@DrThic
@DrThic 14 дней назад
The refs are making me want to just stop watching completely. Even though my teams are out, it angers me seeing what's happening.
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
Same
@kingsfan2099
@kingsfan2099 14 дней назад
McDavid is gonna think about that slash he gave before he got his chicklets removed though.
@user-dm4cg1nt9k
@user-dm4cg1nt9k 14 дней назад
I like to see LOOSER MCDAVID get smoked on a clean check or a good hit
@ChrisPupke
@ChrisPupke 14 дней назад
The refs look the most dangerous in the playoffs
@user-lg6or9ix4m
@user-lg6or9ix4m 14 дней назад
Weird how none of the "missed calls" that would favor the Rangers are completely ignored. Instead, I keep hearing the same old " The Refs are letting them play" BS. If that were the case, that trip that led to Canes PP goal in Game 4 would not have been called. Do we also need to mention the cross checks in front of the ref that was not called? Roughing calls?
@lakotabruno1073
@lakotabruno1073 14 дней назад
And the missed Too many men on the Ice and the Holding call between the 1st and 2nd Canes goals that if called may have helped kill there momentum
@p-47thunderbolt57
@p-47thunderbolt57 14 дней назад
I think you're saying the refs missed calls that, if called, would benefit the Rangers? The officiating in the CAR/NYR series has been appallingly bad, but the last two games have let a lot of things slide and I think that's better. I'd prefer they called the game straight, but they don't, and when they call a bunch of penalties they get a ton wrong. I prefer low-event refereeing to high-event refereeing because high-event refereeing is more egregious. There were also some non-calls in game five, on both sides, that I thought were good non-calls. There were none I saw as egregious, unlike the hit to Jarvis's head in game four. But no harm no foul there, so I don't mind it. If he'd actually been hurt, I'd be more critical.
@user-lg6or9ix4m
@user-lg6or9ix4m 14 дней назад
@@lakotabruno1073 The Rangers were really flat in the third period, there is no question about it. But some of the stuff that were not called for the Rangers, were called against them.
@user-lg6or9ix4m
@user-lg6or9ix4m 14 дней назад
@@p-47thunderbolt57I would agree with you to a certain extent. Some calls that the refs allowed to "slide" tended to be in favor of the Canes. That "trip" in game 4 that led to the PP goal, was "missed" on various occasions during games 1 & 2. Let's not even forget that DeAngelo non-call.
@RLSteffler
@RLSteffler 14 дней назад
What a joke lmao New York fans for you. Trocheck dive for the game winning PP in game 2 I believe? Don't mention that one right. Rangers have had more calls go their way
@kylefox6611
@kylefox6611 14 дней назад
If Canucks have a suspension, the oilers have been easily the instigator or equally as nasty. Shocked they haven’t had a player suspended
@edited1325
@edited1325 14 дней назад
These bots are crazy Also the mcdavid bias is actually real and I’m a oilers fan
@eMRH1202
@eMRH1202 14 дней назад
It’s just like Crosby bias before it.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 14 дней назад
Thank you! Can you convince the other million?! 😂
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 14 дней назад
@@eMRH1202 difference is Crosby had a complete team surrounding him when he won
@user-dx7ow1nv7y
@user-dx7ow1nv7y 14 дней назад
NHL's ruling on Bennet's cross check in front of the goal is starting to look like NACSAR - make the rules up as you go. Easy to lose interest in a sport when the rules are changed to create a desired outcome.
@inconnu4961
@inconnu4961 14 дней назад
Its the Sargent Schultz Rule: "I see nothing, I hear nothing, I KNOW nothing!"
@lup1up
@lup1up 14 дней назад
Great adjustments to your format, thank you to listening to our feedback bro. Keep up the great work. Cats vs bruins: Tbh, I've seen much worse goalie interference calls. Players cross-check all the time in front of the net, this one didn't look egregious and Coyle looked kinda soft going into sway. Disagree with the League saying sway wasn't impacted. My statement would've been that Coyle should've done more to avoid falling into his own goalie as the crosscheck wasn't hard enough to warrant a call. Also technically, I think they couldn't bring the goal back because the crosscheck itself wasn't called. That said, Bennett the Menace for sure lied to the TNT boys right to their face about "defending himself" from Marchand and it being a hockey play. Not a great look. Oilers look done as always mid-playoffs. Agree that the 25+ minutes for forwards is a telling sign they got nothing else. And skinner has definitely returned to form. If they don't fix both, might be Canucks in 5 to everyone's surprise, including my own. Props to tocchet, he's a great coach and got them looking like the 16 and 17 Pens, which he was a huge part of. Bravo Dallas has so much depth and such a good system, it's crazy. Avs are Def frustrated, so might be like the Oilers where it's gonna get to them. Back to form when they couldn't get past the 2nd round. Rags reverse swept? Hrmm...would be hilarious but prob unlikely even now that canes grabbed 2 back Edit: some typos
@anthonyhyne2574
@anthonyhyne2574 14 дней назад
Lol, changing the rules for playoff hockey is so stupid. Especially if we're mad about the inconsistent referee calls.
@Venture143
@Venture143 14 дней назад
and when the league gets one right, everyone loses their mind
@gingabread2690
@gingabread2690 14 дней назад
@@Venture143 more so when a call is blatantly ignored
@dave30003
@dave30003 14 дней назад
That's a great point. The "rigged" claims are laughable. But the fact that the NHL has a set of regular season officiating standards and then switches pretty radically to a playoff set of standards that no one can define or understand gives oxygen to all the crying fan bases' grievances.
@KoSXxPotatisbarnetXD
@KoSXxPotatisbarnetXD 14 дней назад
Changing the rules is one thing, but the insanely inconsistent calls and the favoritism is fucking aweful.
@adamg7984
@adamg7984 14 дней назад
@@KoSXxPotatisbarnetXD Well good news, there isn't any favoritism. Just bad officiating.
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w 14 дней назад
Florida winning a game while committing an infraction. Never saw that before.... 🙄
@superironman
@superironman 14 дней назад
2013 sharks sweep of the canucks was a masterclass in one sided officiating. Pps were 22-8, the sharks twice in the series picked up and threw the puck in their zone (once on the goal line) no call. Every game was 1 goal diff or 1 goal + an empty netter. It's always been like this.
@geronimo9595
@geronimo9595 14 дней назад
same with the 2011 final. the canucks loss to the bruins saw the refs ignoring a LOT of calls against the bruins
@jejsemin33
@jejsemin33 14 дней назад
My favourite thing about this round 2 series is McDavid not getting a single thing called on him but if any Vancouver player touches him then it's a penalty, fine or suspension. Gotta protect McJesus I guess
@RickL_was_here
@RickL_was_here 14 дней назад
Lol. They could have suspended Zadorov and Hyman too, would that make you feel better???
@occultustactical6138
@occultustactical6138 14 дней назад
The idea of being rigged is gaining with me. Last night in the Ranger and Canes game in the third period there were multiple non-calls against the Rangers. One where the Breadman was behind the net and Burns literally wrapped his arms around him to prevent him from skating away, the ref was five feet away staring at the play and no call. Five minutes later on a face off in the Cane end, Mika Z took the face off and while there was a scrum for the puck the opposing player grabbed his stick shaft to prevent him from getting it on the ice, as the other player skated away he held the stick parallel to the ice, again Mika stared at the ref during the infraction shrugging his shoulders and pointing with his free hand. Again no call.
@r2488
@r2488 14 дней назад
It’s also odd because multiple tv banners for the series keep messing up. After the Dallas Avs game they showed it 4-1 series (meaning Dallas wins) and I’ve seen it for the kings last series. They also have misreported scores too. I’m not sure what’s going on but it’s getting weird and even weirder with these calls. And it’s all when sports betting is taking off and the ads for sports betting are all over their digital boards.
@emmanuelhatziminadakis1797
@emmanuelhatziminadakis1797 14 дней назад
Betting is making it worse, and espn now having own betting pyramid has announcers talk shit on whoever is losing.
@emmanuelhatziminadakis1797
@emmanuelhatziminadakis1797 14 дней назад
Nhl playoffs should be on pbs
@adamg7984
@adamg7984 14 дней назад
@@r2488 People said the same thing last year about the fucking Ravens and the Chiefs being in the Superbowl on a banner months before. Guess who didn't make it to the Superbowl. You guys need to seriously grow up. Bad calls and calls that seem to favor an opponent have literally gone on for as far back as you'd care to look. You're doing nothing but seeing something you want to see if you think sports are rigged. And it makes me ask if you've ever played sports when people claim this shit. These types of things occur at every level of sport, there will never been a way to perfectly officiate any sport.
@AC-gw4qu
@AC-gw4qu 14 дней назад
That wasn't Burns, it was Chatfield--the other bearded D man. The play's a bit more complicated because once Chatfield's stick goes up to hook, it appears on replay that Breadman holds the stick against his body with his arm--essentially holding the stick, in hopes of insuring a hooking call. That's not to say it wasn't a hook, it may have been, but Panarin didn't help things by appearing to hold the stick. I thought it was a clear hook, until I saw the replay from near the ref's POV.
@spod7575
@spod7575 12 дней назад
There is a reason why it's called sports ENTERTAINMENT. Pro sports is managed and controlled.
@felixlpilon
@felixlpilon 14 дней назад
The officiating is not rigged... But it is incompetent and biased. It's clear that referees' authority matters more to the league than the rules or the integrity of the game. Because decisions are so inconsistent, random and arbitrary, and because none of them are ever explained, everyone feels cheated at some point or another.
@linkfloyd4908
@linkfloyd4908 14 дней назад
I love the NHL and want new fans to be attracted to it, but the league can just never seem to get out of it's own way. What are we all talking about right now? Should be talking about the amazing playoffs, but nope, it's the conspiracy theory level awful officiating and the goonish play.
@markymark3668
@markymark3668 14 дней назад
I want to state for the record, I don’t think the NHL is rigged. At all. This isn’t just an issue this year. It’s been consistently an issue that gets progressively worse every year for at least the last 3 years if not 5. Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence. I truly think the refs are either out of their prime (too old) too young (inexperienced) or just simply don’t have the tracking and eye skills needed to be refereeing at such a high caliber in the fastest hockey league in the world. I’ve seen calls in the last 2 rounds where refs called penalties on the wrong player, sent them to the box and then switched who it was called on a minute later. How do you expect anyone to have faith in a system that consistently gets so much wrong? So yeah. I don’t blame people for thinking it’s rigged because when fans are passionate and it’s competitive, everything feels rigged when it doesn’t go your way. But I will say this: games shouldn’t be decided by bad calls or a lack of calls thereof. It should be entirely skill based, and I think we’re seeing WAY too much of the former these last several years.
@adamg7984
@adamg7984 14 дней назад
I appreciate so much that you bring a genuine logical perspective here. It's nothing but an issue that hockey fans have dealt with for all of time. Inconsistent calls is a problem in sports from the top to the bottom in terms of leagues. Parents cry about it at their kids games, fans cry about it at the professional games. It's just something you deal with. On that note, I can't agree with your last part. The game is decided on a lot more than a few calls and can always be won in spite of bad calls. It's up to the team to get the fucking job done.
@bmac4
@bmac4 14 дней назад
Its definitely bad, but as a Sharks fan who went through both 2011 and 2019 (where they were on each side of getting screwed and benefitting from ref mistakes), as a friend of a Sabres fan still upset about 98, Im not convinced this is "getting worse". The NHL has always been screwy regarding playoff reffing.
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
Nah trust me. They are rigged to SOME degree. All of them. Legally, professional sports are classified as “entertainment”. They can do whatever they want within certain reasonable boundaries, if it gets too obvious people will freak out, especially now that they are betting obscene amounts on it, again….”legally”..it will continue to get much much worse and more obvious as legalized sports betting spreads
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 14 дней назад
You make a lot of great points here but not all incompetence is accidental. Just remember that
@johnnykay1262
@johnnykay1262 13 дней назад
all pro sports are rigged
@afhostie
@afhostie 14 дней назад
You forgot the blown interference call when Lorei was pulled into Bobby
@jackyboi8832
@jackyboi8832 14 дней назад
The way I see it is that Vancouver is the better team 5v5 and that Edmonton is relying heavily on the PP
@elijahmatter5635
@elijahmatter5635 14 дней назад
Just like the canes and rangers
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 11 дней назад
@@elijahmatter5635 No not at all the Rangers have a number of finishers that the Canes do not add the goalies and STs and it makes plenty of sense why the Rangers had won 9 of 11 against Carolina going into the series. The real question should be why the Canes were ever favored in the first place.
@elijahmatter5635
@elijahmatter5635 10 дней назад
​@@jameshannagan4256 The canes would have won if they had a better PP they ended that series 2-21. personally i think the canes were the better team but Igor was a god and the canes PP sucked
@bunsw2070
@bunsw2070 14 дней назад
Toronto's entire lineup is built for the 'stand around and look at the puck" game and the "don't show up for 1 or 2 periods a game" game and the "let's lose quickly without any physical stuff so I can still be flexible at the bath house" game.
@charlottecorday8494
@charlottecorday8494 14 дней назад
Ouch
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 14 дней назад
All true. Reminds me of Buffalo’s “let’s never make the playoffs because who cares about winning the Cup” game….which they have perfected.
@theris7935
@theris7935 14 дней назад
Toronto is built for regular season, not for playoffs
@brentmac6342
@brentmac6342 14 дней назад
Same thing in edm
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 14 дней назад
@@theris7935 so is Edmonton...
@eatonbeaver6972
@eatonbeaver6972 14 дней назад
Literally the rule is worded exactly as this Bennett play went down and somehow these referees missed this call? Clearly they don't know the rules or they are too gutless to enforce the rules. They brought in replays just so we did not have this nonsense of refs arbitrarily calling what they want and to help them out and yet they still can't get it right? Costly call...tied an important playoff game up. Great work refs !!! I don't know if rigged is the right word as I don't think a particular team is being singled out to win it but you can clearly see how when a team gets a lead, suddenly penalties are called on only them etc. It's as if the refs have orders from high to make games as close as possible to make them more exciting.
@jsequine927
@jsequine927 14 дней назад
Wait until the next round when one of the Oilers and Canucks have to overcome an American team and the officials to progress, then let’s assess whether the playoffs and NHL are rigged.
@JimboSlice-cg5ky
@JimboSlice-cg5ky 14 дней назад
100% agree.
@MrBildozer17
@MrBildozer17 14 дней назад
I hope it is the Oilers so we don't have to see Vancouver tear the town apart again!
@JimboSlice-cg5ky
@JimboSlice-cg5ky 14 дней назад
@@MrBildozer17 sorry but have you seen Downtown Vancouver?
@MrBildozer17
@MrBildozer17 14 дней назад
@@JimboSlice-cg5ky A couple times... 2011 and 1994. While I haven't physically been there, I am sure there aren't car fires that are just randomly happening. Then again, I could always be wrong.
@Colith1
@Colith1 14 дней назад
I absolutely cannot stand the Bruins and I cant believe I am actually defending them but the GI non call was the most dumbfounded Ive been about a call. That absolutely has devastating effects on outcomes of games. Im not giving excuses for Bostons poor play after but you can understand how they feel. I also cant stand Marchand, and everyone knows that dude 9 times out of 10 deserves a shot to the head but not like this and now in a cowardly way that could end someones career. Shots to the temple you dont see coming can and has killed people or left them impaired. Unacceptable.
@BeardVsTheWorldUK1
@BeardVsTheWorldUK1 14 дней назад
I think this round is a truly glorious smorgasbord of great gamesmanship, coaching, creativity, skillful netminding, and old-time hockey grittiness. I also think your video (s) is (are) the perfect way to complete the viewing experience. Your take on my Bruins, for example, was extremely lucid and helps alleviate the tangible pain I’m feeling of watching my favorite team lose to those mouthpiece-gnawing halfwits from the hockey “paradise” in South Florinada. 😱😱
@stephendacey8761
@stephendacey8761 14 дней назад
B's in 7.
@JohnVelcofsky
@JohnVelcofsky 14 дней назад
@@stephendacey8761 They'll be lucky to make it to G6.
@JohnVelcofsky
@JohnVelcofsky 14 дней назад
Yeah? Well, we half-wits down here are hoping to elevate the tangible pain you're feeling tonight in G5!!! Go Cats!!!
@idawg7332
@idawg7332 14 дней назад
@@JohnVelcofsky Wait until they realize that a decent amount of their fanbase lives down here lol
@stephendacey8761
@stephendacey8761 14 дней назад
@@JohnVelcofsky The script is flipped from last year.
@ThomasBeglane
@ThomasBeglane 14 дней назад
Playoff hockey the calls are normally pretty even with the refs letting a lot of stuff go, the panthers have gotten everything their way 21 - 9 for Power plays in the series in favor of Florida idk how you don't bring that up
@collinvogt-gx5bo
@collinvogt-gx5bo 14 дней назад
I discovered this channel during Round 1 and I'm loving the content.
@timmholl9238
@timmholl9238 14 дней назад
Stars fan here.I was fifteen minutes late to work this morning, because I wanted to watch this at home. Not on my phone. EXCELLENT video, as always.
@stinkfinger630
@stinkfinger630 14 дней назад
I used to think it was just inept officiating but now I think it’s a combination of inept officiating and League ‘desired outcomes’ (with the overall goal of expanding the game in the US markets). Don’t forget the spectre of corporate Gambling sponsorship weaving its way through the NHL. I love the game, watch when I can, but these days sometimes have to shake my head and say ‘that’s fishy’. WWE, tbh.
@goldenveinband3620
@goldenveinband3620 14 дней назад
Oh they’re not generating enough chances and they haven’t been the better team so the goal is ok and the punch is ok. That’s all I keep hearing that’s even more ridiculous of a take.
@bradleyroth9870
@bradleyroth9870 14 дней назад
Vancouver had 18 shots and won. Edmonton had 45 shots and lost. Your propaganda is weak.
@dino3965
@dino3965 14 дней назад
Panthers are just playing better than the bruins so they deserved to have their lead and season sabotaged by the refs
@YoungCoasty
@YoungCoasty 14 дней назад
Florida may have comeback and won that game. But the fact that it happened that way is unacceptable
@anand8905
@anand8905 7 дней назад
Being from Vancouver and a diehard Canucks fan who hates Boston, that was a bullshit call. Horrible reffing throughout the entire playoffs
@KkevrockK
@KkevrockK 14 дней назад
You could claim that it’s a conspiracy…if there wasn’t video and audio of refs admitting “game management” add to the fact that officials are never made to answer for their actions publicly and the absolute lack of consistency game to game or official to official means it is actually happening. Takes a whole lot of gymnastics to pretend otherwise.
@dannylaurence8089
@dannylaurence8089 14 дней назад
Rigged is a step too far, but the NHL clearly has a preference for who they want to win and they give certain teams preferential calls. It’s a business first and foremost. If Florida doesn’t win games, their fans stop watching. That’s bad for the league and the league needs to protect its financial viability. They basically have to manage the entertainment value of the games to maximize viewership while still having some semblance of competition.
@paulg6274
@paulg6274 14 дней назад
So how does the league "give" preferenfial calls? You think refs are told to be lop sided? Theres no way--this would get exposed extremely quickly. Crooked refs in other sports/leagues are exposed very quickly--let a lone a league wide coordinated conspiracy at the highest level. Hockey is simply a hard game to ref cause there are subjective borderline penalties almost every shift
@joshciviletti3032
@joshciviletti3032 14 дней назад
If the NHL rigged games then Toronto would’ve won a Stanley Cup by now.
@johnnybegood3855
@johnnybegood3855 14 дней назад
Same thing has happened for years in the playoffs to Toronto with the same 2 Teams Florida and Boston one sided calls and none calls when its Clear .Leafs have Figured it out not worth the $164,000 to get Butchered in the playoffs and bad calls from the refs .🏌‍♀🏌‍♂🏌‍♀ Leafs Fabulous 50 Million Dollar 5 Golfing in the Sun .Simpsons HA HA !!!
@spitfiremanlizerd
@spitfiremanlizerd 13 дней назад
@@joshciviletti3032 Toronto Sells out anyway. They never need to win the cup.
@spitfiremanlizerd
@spitfiremanlizerd 13 дней назад
I don't think it goes that far personally, I think they want to keep games competitive though, they want series to go longer so they try to keep calls in favor of the losing team or equal, even when one team is in reality more deserving of penalty's and such.
@Based_Morty
@Based_Morty 14 дней назад
I hate the Bruins. But that call blew my mind. It shouldn't have even needed challenged. That should've been blown dead as soon as Florida touched the puck. How they allowed that goal to stand is baffling.
@gronmaster
@gronmaster 13 дней назад
I have NOT seen a good Referee in a LONG time. Vancouver has been handicapped by QUESTIONABLE officials for years. We need ACCOUNTABILITY!!! On a public stage. Tar and Feather, anyone?
@michalpsenicka6006
@michalpsenicka6006 14 дней назад
As an EU Andy it's quite difficult for me to watch the NHL without getting the results spoiled, therefore I'm on 0 sleep atm. But man I couldn't wait for a review of these games by you. Great work.
@humanbeing2420
@humanbeing2420 14 дней назад
What's an "EU Andy"?
@kevinbacon7772
@kevinbacon7772 14 дней назад
@@humanbeing2420 casual from Europe
@humanbeing2420
@humanbeing2420 13 дней назад
@@kevinbacon7772 Thanks. I googled it and found nothing...
@piranha111
@piranha111 14 дней назад
Missed the mcdavid high stick to hughes that drew blood
@Desert-Father
@Desert-Father 14 дней назад
That's the Sidney Crosby Rule. The game's elite get judged by a different rulebook. McDavid would've had to impale Hughes with his stick to get called for a penalty.
@blitzentwiceborn2540
@blitzentwiceborn2540 14 дней назад
As a Bruins fan it’s been more frustrating to watch officials dictating the outcomes of the game. Panther fans have also been echoing confusing calls. The last game was just a more prime example. Bruins actually did play well and generated scoring chances. The refs decided to put the whistles away for a while and the game was enjoyable at 2-1. Then the first Lindholm interference call, one that happens about 56 times a game and isn’t called, is called as the Bruins are leading in a pivotal game. It’s confusing for the players as the way it’s being called has just…. Changed. It’s almost impossible for refs to dictate the outcome of a game, which no one wants, if they are consistent. Players realize what is happening and adapt. The games are enjoyable within the framework.
@redbaron8130
@redbaron8130 14 дней назад
One of the craziest allowed goals I’ve ever seen.
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 14 дней назад
Coyle was already facing the goalie deep in the crease in the exact spot swayman had to be to make that save, and it wasn’t a difficult call? 🤣
@FLGirly
@FLGirly 12 дней назад
🙄
@DuffyTheGander
@DuffyTheGander 14 дней назад
Heres my thing about the crosschecks to McDavid. Early in the regular season Dylan Larkin takes a punch in the back they pushes him down into a crosscheck to the jaw. Knocks him the F out. Nothing. (The suspension to Perron afterward was totally warranted). But it was a similar play. And only now it warrants a suspension and a fine for both involved? Cmon man i dont believe in leage bias but McDavid gets away with so much
@thefozzybear
@thefozzybear 14 дней назад
Maroon is too slow to catch any Panther player with a hit.
@HeadOfNixon
@HeadOfNixon 14 дней назад
It's painful to watch and is 100% what I expected when they announced the trade. Waste of a draft pick and a prospect.
@choppergunner8650
@choppergunner8650 14 дней назад
​@@HeadOfNixonMaroon is washed.
@matthoffman2863
@matthoffman2863 14 дней назад
Stars fan here. Another great video! Still waiting for my Stars to get more than 2 minutes of airtime in a Hockey Psych video lol (I'm joking, BUT.....). Avs had 4 shots halfway through the second to our 20something. It was 16-2 after the first. At least mention that, that deserves SOMEthing! We were one point from the President's Trophy, why does no one ever talk about the Stars? Appreciate that you're finally giving love to Johnston though. Keep up the videos. You're my favorite hockey RU-vid guy by far!
@ddawg75
@ddawg75 14 дней назад
He obviously cross checks him into the goalie intentionally. He was also smart about it as to not make it too egregious and give just enough of a shove. But, the rule states that its illegal. Toronto should have overruled the on ice crew on this one.
@TodaysNHLaction
@TodaysNHLaction 14 дней назад
This rigged word has been thrown around way too much since 2016. Way too much.
@TrueMr.Quinn1
@TrueMr.Quinn1 14 дней назад
Sorry but I had to stop 1 minute in because you are wrong about the Marchand incident. He didn’t leave after the hit from Bennett, he played until the third period. That’s when we got the news he’s not coming back out
@johngibson1072
@johngibson1072 14 дней назад
The NHL continues to embarrass itself with bad officiating. The call on S.Bennetts cross-check / goal on the Bruins was 100% wrong. Not a Bruins fan, but I can see why they're pissed.
@robertonievecimamontana7065
@robertonievecimamontana7065 14 дней назад
I don't want to believe it... NHL VP & Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell has his son, Gregory Campbell who is VP of Player Personnel & Development at FL Panthers. I cheered for Greg when he played for the Bs. Greg was ridiculously tough: a slapshot broke his leg yet he stayed out on the ice and tried to block even more! Now the NHL has strings on the officials to make ridiculous calls? WWE also has predetermined outcomes. TB Lightning never had a chance to advance... sad... pitiful... abhorrent...
@shadowfiremusic
@shadowfiremusic 14 дней назад
But let's keep promoting sport's betting
@vincmontecristo439
@vincmontecristo439 14 дней назад
0:51 No, that's not true. Marchand didn't miss the rest of the game after Bennett's hit. He played a few shifts and got rocked again when hitting Steven Lorentz.
@idawg7332
@idawg7332 14 дней назад
shhhh don't tell them that just let them play the victim acting like marchand is some kind of boy scout and that he didn't get hurt trying to hurt other players.
@masterchef9512
@masterchef9512 14 дней назад
@@hockeyfanfromfinland literally ignoring the fact that Marchand got knocked the fuck out after the punch
@masterchef9512
@masterchef9512 14 дней назад
@@idawg7332 womp womp, everyone does it, he got injured more after getting a concussion. THATS why he played more because he thought he could play
@qwerty112311
@qwerty112311 14 дней назад
@@masterchef9512tough shit for him. He has no problem knocking players out, so it’s a moment of celebration when what goes around finally comes around.
@kwan3560
@kwan3560 14 дней назад
@@masterchef9512 Marchand got Marchand-ed. And Bruins got Bruins-ed. Justice.
@bragelbytes779
@bragelbytes779 14 дней назад
The crosscheck debacle took the attention away from the fact that embellishment put the Panthers on that power play in the first place.
@erickennyproductions1050
@erickennyproductions1050 13 дней назад
It also doesn't help that coaching keeps putting Ceci, & Nurse together, who have been on the ice for nearly half of Vancouvers goals on us.
@kathleenwalsh1676
@kathleenwalsh1676 14 дней назад
The league is rigged. I’ve lost faith in the officiating post season.
@FLGirly
@FLGirly 12 дней назад
If your team was winning games, you would disagree. That’s just how it is
@AdamBassick
@AdamBassick 14 дней назад
Bennetts hit ppl say “they’re letting them play” but Boston is getting called for the softest.. dumbest and insane shit
@YZER19
@YZER19 14 дней назад
😂😂😂 only if you're a Boston fanboy
@idawg7332
@idawg7332 14 дней назад
yeah punching lundell in the face, skating into bobrovsky, making tkachuk bleed. Clearly just soft penalties. Open your eyes, boston turned into goons as soon as the 3rd period of game 2 started
@AdamBassick
@AdamBassick 14 дней назад
@@idawg7332 yea what do u expect when the refs aren’t calling penalties on Florida 🤡
@Desert-Father
@Desert-Father 14 дней назад
Same thing is happening in the Rangers vs Canes series.
@AdamBassick
@AdamBassick 14 дней назад
@@idawg7332 called Boston “not physical” all playoffs.. so bennett hurts our captain and now THEYRE the dirty ones 🤦‍♂️
@albertapeet
@albertapeet 14 дней назад
Bettman loves his southern based teams , he will do anything for a southern NHL final a Florida Dallas final is a wet dream for Bettman .
@darkhelmut7674
@darkhelmut7674 12 дней назад
How many cheap hits has Marchand dealt out unabated? All sports are rigged.
@shawnperry3815
@shawnperry3815 14 дней назад
There was interference I suppose, but clearly Swayman wouldn't have slid over in time to save it. I mean you can't call every shove or "accidental" fall into the goaltender. The Bruins then allowed the panthers to march right down and score another one so it is not like the disputed goal was the deciding factor.
@redhunter68
@redhunter68 14 дней назад
It was a crosscheck for one, it interfered with swaymans ability to make a save (the above angle shows him looking to the right but unable to move since he had a player pushed on him) and had that guy not been crosscheck he would have been in the way to block or intercept the shot/pass. The only thing saddens me from this series is that both teams can't lose in the same series.
@lukemartin3062
@lukemartin3062 14 дней назад
Boss: I need you to do some work Me: Give me 10 minutes and 44 seconds the Hockey Psychologist just dropped a new vid
@potatoesforsale
@potatoesforsale 14 дней назад
“1 more second”
@charlottecorday8494
@charlottecorday8494 14 дней назад
Boss: you're fired
@backister
@backister 12 дней назад
Love the consistent Cabo jokes because I'm currently on my way to Cabo so I hope some of these players take your advice and meet me there 😂
@chrisnarnos
@chrisnarnos 14 дней назад
Even though i watch these games, I still love watching your analysis and comments. Thanks!
@misterscottintheway
@misterscottintheway 14 дней назад
I think draisaitl was saying exactly what you were saying: 4 posts isn't a goaltending problem it's a shooting problem.
@ChrisTallant
@ChrisTallant 14 дней назад
As a wings fan, our worst rival has been the ref’s since 1984.
@JustHach
@JustHach 14 дней назад
Forget the goaltender interference, my question is why TF was Bennett playing in the first place? He should have been suspended for sucker punching Marchand.
@intimm1885
@intimm1885 13 дней назад
Hey man great video and love your stuff, but as a Panthers fan I have to correct you. We run a 2-1 forecheck with the F3 as the one to capitalize or to cover for pinching defensemen
@CowboyUp1371
@CowboyUp1371 14 дней назад
No no Paul Maurice didn't say the Bennett punch was accidental he said it was a "hockey play" which we all know is total bullshit. If Marchand punched someone else in the face like that I guarantee you he would be suspended not just 1 game but multiple games. This officiating is a joke not just in this series but the entire NHL playoffs. There is no accountability for these refs. They can call one thing on one team and then not call it on another where is the logic and consistency when it comes to officiating? This is why all sports need to have officials that it's their full time job not too mention there bank accounts need to be checked. I guarantee you these refs are betting on games.
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