when the sequel surpasses the original 

“you either die a hero or see yourself become a villain” Somehow, Doc Oc did both

I love that in the first two movies, Spider man’s villains were people like him with more money and experience and intelligence, men that Peter looked up to, granted great power who could not take responsibility like Peter. Really demonstrates how special Peter is in his world

I was the perfect age when Spider-Man 1 and 2 came out. I'm so happy they were part of my childhood. I'll always be able to go back and re-watch them and basically feel like a kid again.

When he says "Otto Octavius ends up with 8 limbs, what are the odds." is so damn funny, I don't think any other actor could've delivered that so perfectly.

"Driven by science, bound by love" holy shit dude this line is amazing, well done

The unsung hero that I really wish you'd mentioned is the sound design of the mechanical arms. That metallic click-clacking is just so perfect and goes a massive way to giving them a feeling, texture and weight. It's brilliantly and consistently done throughout the film.

The real villain is Matt Lauer calling him an octopus

I did NOT know that last descent in to water scene was all CG. It looked real, and part of that was I wasn't _looking_ for the CG. It was so passable, I just believed it. That tells me they succeeded.

Those robot arms are some of the best puppeteering I've seen to date. Their movements are so fluid and "alive". Miles better than early 2000s CGI could possibly have looked

Somehow villains don't get enough recognition as the protagonists. We appreciate all of your effort and hard work.

The difference between Otto's practical arms that required 16 puppeteers then and Otto's CGI arms now is truly palpable. Just another instance where although harder work, requiring more time and effort, practical blew CGI out of the water.

I’ve been playing games and watching movies with visual effects since I was a toddler in the late 90’s. I’ve always had an eye for what’s in-camera and what’s cg, and I never once thought that shot of him in the water wasn’t real. Incredible work

God I just love everything they did for Doc Ock. The puppets are incredible, Alfred is a wonderful presence and an excellent actor and the writing and effort put in make for a beautiful adaptation. I really wish they'd gone practical for No Way Home's tentacles as the visual downgrade in them is severely noticeable

I think Spiderman 2 is the best comic book movie ever made. It had so much action, so much heart, and so much excitement. It was truly the best.

Great video! Also thanks for being fair to CGI because Raimi and the team clearly used it with artistic intent

For me apart from Doc Ock, the train sequence makes the whole movie and makes the trilogy the best Spiderman movies for me. The world, the people react to Spiderman in a way that feels real much different from other movies.

I love when horror directors make superhero movies

PRACTICAL EFFECTS BEFORE CGI That's my motto

This was where No Way Home dropped the ball for me. Knowing they'd just gone "Eh, CGI is more advanced now, let's just make the arms completely CG" It just really robs something from Alfred's performance, and feels cheap.

Wow, great video. I had no idea the last scene with Doc was CGI.

One of the best super movies, and truly one of the best movies in general. Sam Raimi is the man

I never liked Doc Ock from the comics but Alfred Molina did such a great performance, adding so much more depth to the character, he will forever more be THE Doc Ock to me.

Aunt May's speech about heroes has more soul than whole MCU

I've seen this movie countless times-- and I didn't realize Doc Ock's tentacles were practical effects until just now. New respect for the team that made this film...

9:13 I love it when the movie crew have fun on set, this seems like such a good memory and funny ass blooper 😂

The newer spiderman films are good in their own way, i feel like they nailed spiderman with Tom Holland and he feels like the star of the show. But the villains in these films were just unmatched. The Green Goblin and Doc OC really felt like the centrepiece of these films. Thats why these will always be my favourite renditions.

One of my favorite things about Doc Oc in the movie is how he's actually a good guy and never stops being a good guy. It's just that the limbs AI takes over. In the end Octavius is innocent as he didn't anticipate the AI inhibitor chip being zapped.

Alfred Molina is such a versatile actor.

One of the things I love about these video essays of yours, is that it makes me appreciate the well crafted movies even more, and what makes them stand out. Sometimes I also don't understand the whole reason behind why or what I love about a movie, but when broken down like this many things start to make more sense. Thank you!

The Spiderman films understood that a relatable and sympathetic villain is much more interesting than a simple evildoer who just loves being evil. Osbourne was a man losing the grip on his company and legacy, driven to extreme ends. But before the serum broke his mind he was a nice guy. He respected Peter, encouraged his ability and pushed him to excel and not waste his ability. Otto too, initially dismissive of Peter as just a student he had to entertain to keep the money man happy, soon found that he wasn't some random kid, but a student with serious potential who could engage him on the topic properly. What could have been a whistle-stop tour of the lab and a swift taxi ride home, turned into a multi-hour in depth discussion about the physics behind Otto's experiment, and even dinner as Otto's wife looked on with amusement at her husband's enjoyment interacting with Peter. He was a good man trying to make a difference. That's so much more interesting when they fall into darkness and end up being the antagonist. You want them to be defeated, but you want them to be saved too. it also helps they got actors as good as Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina to give them all the qualities they need. Solid movies both.

Molina was as incredible as he was not only because he was dedicated to giving a fantastic performance, but because he was clearly having a BLAST with this behemoth of a role. He was absolutely brilliant and one of the best comic book villain portrayals ever.

I just noticed Flo is on Molina's right. If Molina is right-handed, I love the intentional or unintentional creation of a "dominant" tentacle.

Nearly 20 years later and it’s still one of the best superhero movies of all time

"To make each job as different as the last one"' Great line from a great actor. I always love actors who are willing to go outside of their comfort zone.

Doc Ock's tentacles are still one of the best practical effects I've ever seen, I still remember as a kid going to a toy store grabbing 2 of those grabber toy things and grabbing stuff with them pretending to be Doc Ock and trying to put a wafer stick on my mouth like a cigar which most of the time gets crushed or dropped by the toy.

I really liked how each arm seemed to have its own autonomy, its own decision making. Even though logic would say its just 1 single machine, one mind. The choice to use puppeteering was on point.

What’s your favorite scene from Spider-Man 2?

The best Spiderman movie period.

My personal choice as the greatest superhero movie character of all time, hero or villain. Molina's delivery of "listen to me now" as he regains mastery over his own mind and humanity sends literal shivers down my spine every single time. Something really powerful and profound happens in that moment, something very rarely achieved in movies or art in general.

I took my kids to see this. All these years later, it still comes up when we talk about great movies we've seen.

These videos are so ridiculously underrated. Smooth narration, concise descriptions, fantastic and interesting behind the scenes footage, great topical points. And overall, enjoyable content!

Thing about the old filming was they didn't go full CGI so they have a look of reality better than what the joke She Hulk has become.

The final shot of Otto drifting into the abyss is a spectacular CG shot for the time.

In 2004 Columbia hired me to work on the promo material for Spider Man 2. I made animated desktops for the website and some other stuff. They asked me to make a 3d animation of the robot arms that played in a loop. I worked on some other movies that year but that was my favorite project for them.

Your Spiderman videos make me wanna rewatch the trilogy I enjoyed as a kid. Being an adult now would make me understand a lot of it more. Which kinda excites me.

Every Frame a Painting. Saying that as these are very well done and narrated. A lot of detail and background. Like!

My god I thought the arms were CGI. THEY look AMAZING

Once I grew up and realized Sam raining directed these, I finally understood why the scene where he kills all the doctors was so scary as a kid.

Thank you for bringing this to us. It is awesome when the trifecta of excellent writing, acting and amazing special effects comes together. Doc Oc was portrayed as the villain you could almost root for. Like Sandman, he was as much a victim as a villian.

SO excited for another cinemastix, thank you :)

I watched this lovely again a couple of days ago, great timing!

This perfectly sums up why I love this movie so much. I was born just before it came out, and finally got to see it only recently since it made its way to Netflix. Before No Way Home and Into the Spiderverse, I didn't really care for Spider-Man, until Doc Ock showed up. Olivia Octavuis was my first introduction to the character, and as someone who was more interested in the art direction, I was pleasantly surprised that the quirky STEM girl was the main villain's henchman with some awesome robot arms. Then, I watched NWH with some friends and fell in love with Molina's version, so much, so I had to see the original just I could understand it, and watched the intro to the character and Horror Hospital. I love redemption arcs, and NWH did a good job at introducing the character and the situation he was in. You can tell he realized what he did was wrong (and, as I would find out, nearly catastrophic on a nuclear scale) and did what he could to help out. On the side of Practical FX, I love Little Shop of Horrors, especially for its use of complex puppetry and how they worked around it, so seeing big, mechanical and most importantly REAL arms physically on an actor just makes everything so much more realistic. You could feel the dedication radiating from the screen, and I enjoyed every bit of it. On the visual effects side, I'm sure those who watched the film on TV at the time probably thought a lot of those CG shots were real; I watched Otto's death on a smart TV and thought it was real; the only thing I thought was weird was his hair. Molina's Doc Ock as a character is one of, if not the best combinations of ingenuity, talent, villainy and humanity in pop culture, and it is a shame how films nowadays (not even just superhero movies) have replaced that passion for what sells. There's a reason why they used the human octopus as a main selling point - he (and by extension all the people who created him) deserves it.

beautiful video esssy. Thank you for making it Molina Raimi and Dykstra deserve all the praise for it truly ahead of its time.

I always thought that Molina was dropped into a water tank and they filmed him sink to the bottom.

I see Spider-Man 2 on the thumbnail and I click as fast as possible. Simple. Love this work, man 🤙

Great video as always, but DAMN that transition from Doc Ock picking up the tritium to the reveal of your channel title was spectacular!

Great, great video! Great writing and observation. Thank you for this.

Great video as always @CinemaStix! We love Spider-Man 2 as well.

Bring back practical effects 🙌🏻

What I dislike about the second movie that really threw me off rewatching it was the CGI. The rest: perfection

You’ve become one of my favorite RU-vid channels in recent memory. It’s rare to find a channel that talks about films to do so in a way that feels refreshing, even when it’s something we have already heard of or already know. Thanks for the great content ❤

You know, thanks, thanks a lot for sharing all these things about my favourite superhero movie series. I liked the way you also elaborated Otto octavius it was really good 👍🏻

My favorite line ; "I will not die a monster"!

Nice video...I personally worked on the EFX crew for the miniature shots of Doc Oct's lair, the destruction and sinking parks along with the end part where the power station tumbled down the pier

Love your stuff, can’t wait to see your channel grow !!

Wow! I didn't expect the video to start exactly where the thumbnail ends! Besides with millisecond precision! I haven't clicked on any video for a long time with this expectation. We need this more! I liked the video just because of this!

I slept on these when they came out. They’re all so good!

Your video quality (rhythm, structure, detail oriented etc) is priceless.

LAURA ZISKIN was the only one capable to save this movie from AVI ARAD After she died in 2011, during the production of TASM1, there was nobody else to stop Arad from ruining everything May she rest in peace

I love your use of clips from interviews and the like! It makes it distinct from most videos I see on here.

bro... your videos are so good, keep the good work!!!!

Such chill in this video.

Well done, Danny. Another video knocked outta the park.

Just watched your Spiderman Green Goblin video. Your style is unique and professional. I welcome these videos on RU-vid. 👏👏

One of my all-time favorite movies out of thousands I have seen.

4:23 to you he's a comic book author, to me he's the papa of Babylon-5, the best god damn tv series in history

The fiddler on Doc Oc's roof is such a wonderful clip

And here I was wondering how well those "CGI" arms aged. The puppeteers killed it

8:40 it's still cutting edge, honestly. We just don't get CG this good today. Wonderful vide

Oh thank goodness, I thought every frame a painting had, "stopped" doing video essays, glad to see you're doing great!

This is an indescribably good video.

This whole video was really well done and enjoyable but also was worth it just for that little coordinated "If I Were a Rich Man" bit

I wish Doc Ock had survived in Spider-Man 2 and became a good guy. Then imagine in Spider-Man 3, Harry is the one in danger instead of MJ, and Doc Ock comes along with Peter to help him save Harry.

Great outtakes!

I can tell you specially enjoyed this video, Danny. It shows in the intimacy and respect on the making off

Can't wait for a multiverse version where Dafoe plays as a doc ock variant 🤣

Damn dude solid retrospect of this movie. That was good shit.

I loved the entire trilogy but nothing beats Spider-Man 1 for me

This was the first movie I ever watched in a cinema. I love it for that, the nostalgia and the simple fact that in my opinion it is one of the best superhero movies of all time.

Love your videos, Danny! Would love to see one about the 1899. It wasn't a masterpiece of art, but there's definitely something to it.

New cinemastix, let’s GOOO

I love how Doc Oc can take shots to the face by spiderman, so realistic.

Molina is not stranger to blockbusters. He's in Indiana Jones

And the CGI still looks better than what wwe have gotten from superhero movies since

Another great vid!

Probably my favorite superhero movie to this day!

The VFX really hold up well and huge thanks to the practical effects where possible.

Good stuff mate

Sam Raimi's Spider man movies were a huge part of my childhood and I loved them! Another contender that comes to mind for best sequel of a movie, is Terminator 2 imo. I looooove that movie and would love to see you make a video about it. Great stuff!

I remember the first time I saw this, when the arms join him in mourning it really got me, I knew this wasn't just an action movie.