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Want to learn more about when to use which washes and where? Interested in some of my very scientific wash recipes?
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@Sorrowdusk
@Sorrowdusk Год назад
Who remembers the old days of dunking models in floor stain then attaching them to a power drill??
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I never attached them to a power drill, but I did use floor stain on some of my oldest miniatures. Thanks for watching!
@demonprinceofkhorne
@demonprinceofkhorne Год назад
I love using agrax earthshade but I use it really sparingly. A super thin layer tends to brown stuff up and age skulls just right but without applying so much that they end up brown
@davidm.corbin4643
@davidm.corbin4643 Год назад
I like to use Agrax for cloth and Nuln oil for metals.
@CoryJohnsonfootsteps
@CoryJohnsonfootsteps Год назад
I use never use dedicated washes or shades that companies sell. These days, I just thin a corresponding contrast paint with water or medium, then paint/push it into the recesses I want rather than just "slapping it on and letting it settle." I find that the ability to choose orange as a wash sometimes for metal, or magenta for skin, or purple for dinosaurs is very flexible and enjoyable.
@TheScilenced
@TheScilenced Год назад
Have you tried inversely suspended models whilst the wash has maximum viscosity?
@nuke2099
@nuke2099 Месяц назад
I just watched a EonsofBattle video on this and he recommended brushing a small amount of water where you want the wash to go and then using the tip of the brush dropping the wash in and it automatically fills the area's and moves around the recesses on its own. Might take a bit longer but no staining of anything but the recesses.
@Kevin.Mitchell
@Kevin.Mitchell Год назад
Great video, thanks! When I started painting back in the early 80s, the switch from Humbrol enamels to the new Citadel acrylics was amazing. But washes weren't something I'd ever heard of back then, so adding depth was basically painstakingly painting in darker areas individually - I wasn't then (and nor am I now) a competition standard painter, I just wanted models on the table quick, so most of the time a dry brush would be enough, leave the shadows the original colour and move on. When I came back to painting after a long break, washes were available and totally changed the look of my models compared to everything I'd painted 35 years ago. I think I've learned a bit about my own preferences with washes - less is more (however tempting it is to dunk the figure in Agrax Earthshade, matching wash colour to the base colour is better), and to paint with a lighter base coat initially to achieve the colour you want after the wash has shaded everything. But I still then dry brush everything to within an inch of its life because it makes the model look great from 3 feet away, which is exactly what I want.
@bladeD02
@bladeD02 Год назад
Something new I been experimenting with that happy with results so far, is using airbrush flow improver as a wash medium so put a drop of airbrush flow in prover onto my palate additional amount of regular acrylic model paint in my brush a mixup and washing any colour I want. So far I have been mostly using this to make fast plasma coils, start with base coat of Vallejo how electric blue, and use a wash of airbrush flow improver mixed with Citadel kantor blue.
@krzysztofmathews738
@krzysztofmathews738 Год назад
That sounds like a great idea. I should try that.
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I usually keep my flow improver in the airbrush room, but I should try it at the painting table, too. Thanks for watching!
@mordecaitoth6703
@mordecaitoth6703 Год назад
I have been having a lot of fun mixing army painter speed paints to get some really custom color schemes on the table and a big part of that is thinning them down to a wash or glaze like consistency to give metallic layers a unique shine. Sometimes, often when I am batch painting, instead of using the standard black or brown washes I like to use mixes of deeper shades of blues, purples, burgundies, etc, as a quick way to get more color on the model. This both reduces the number of steps to get them finished and also makes them visually more interesting, imo.
@elsimian3483
@elsimian3483 Год назад
'Colours not exactly touching"- washes become the "decorators caulk" of mini painting. Thanks as always for the great video 🥼
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
A better explanation for people who understand the reference, yes. Thanks for watching!
@TimBergen
@TimBergen Год назад
Since your variables were 'how mixed-in additional media changed consistency/color/result in the final product', calling straight up Agrax your 'control' is wholly appropriate (and good science!). I've recently started learning to paint, and besides beginning with terrain (because it pains me less to try out an approach and then just say "okay, that's what it looks like!"), there's a lot of your 'try a lot of different approaches over white' in my method. I've also got a highlight-before-wash/highlight-after-wash pairing that really illustrates the point you were making about those differences, so from recent experience I can definitely see how sometimes highlight-before will have its place, but highlight-after gives (for me) better results in a couple different ways.
@ChopsTV
@ChopsTV Год назад
I've gotten a lot of mileage out of mixing washes directly into the paints I'm going to use. Especially lighter color paints like yellows. somewhere in the 2:1 paint to wash ratio. Thins the paints nicely while also adding the worn color I'm generally going for. It doesnt work with every color (obvs) but its a very nice trick for a lot of others.
@OnceinaSixSide
@OnceinaSixSide Год назад
I almost always only use oil or enamel washes these days. They just work so well and I don't mind the drying time. Shame to see Agrax is so bad now!
@southpaw5483
@southpaw5483 11 месяцев назад
Are you applying a varnish before the "oil or enamel wash"? or can you apply directly on the painted model (assuming the acrylic paint layers have cured).
@AVS_uk
@AVS_uk Год назад
I listened more because you were wearing a lab coat
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I should wear it more often, maybe. Thanks for watching!
@tHeInEvItAbLePaRtY
@tHeInEvItAbLePaRtY Год назад
Scientist Man from RedLetterMedia dropped by for the day
@tiddleywinks121
@tiddleywinks121 Год назад
As soon as you put the lab coat on, I felt like I was being lectured by an expert.
@patrickcdavis7712
@patrickcdavis7712 Год назад
Maybe I should get myself a labcoat.....my wife might listen to me more attentively....😂
@jamieprekup6344
@jamieprekup6344 Год назад
​@@tabletopminions have you done a video about barrel heat? Like flame thrower tips and cannon ends after firing a bunch. I heard it called several different names and also read it takes a few different shades to pull off. I just like how you explain things, please and thank you.
@kristophermelin7160
@kristophermelin7160 Год назад
I've been using inks (like, for calligraphy or printing) and mixing them with matte mediums and flow improver. The results aren't always great, but a lot of the time, they are, and I've been able to add a whole bunch of variations of colors that I would need to spend A LOT more to buy individually from GW (etc.) It's worth investing $25 or $30 in inks and art supplies to play around and see what gets the results you want. Great video - thanks!
@jamesshearer3936
@jamesshearer3936 Год назад
Army Painter Speedpaints are a great start to washes. Thin them, mix them (even with other paint lines), experiment in a lot of different ways. I'm not claiming they are better, but they are very versatile and play well with others. Good video! Not a rattle can in sight!
@Brandedwolf
@Brandedwolf 3 месяца назад
It's been fun messing around with washes as I've gotten back into mini painting, so much more variety and different things now. I've really enjoyed the look of army painters red wash over my gold speed paints, especially loot. Thanks for the vid and mayhaps consider selling lab coats with minions patches on them in the merch shop ;)
@patgray5402
@patgray5402 Год назад
I like to paint a base layer that is lighter than the final color I'm going for, then use a shade to darken it to the color I want. I particularly like using this over flat areas like shoulder pads. I use this with the old citadel wash formula so your mileage may vary.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 Год назад
One thing that I've heard said is to use black washes over cool colors (blues, purples, etc), and brown washes over warm colors (reds, yellows, etc). Probably has something to do with most "black" paints (and thus most black washes) being actually dark, dark blue. By contrast, most browns have a lot of orange in them. So a black wash over yellow makes it look sickly green, whereas a brown wash over purple just looks muddy (and not in a good way).
@NightfireGamingYT
@NightfireGamingYT Год назад
I normally use the Army Painter washes, so I’m interested in trying these methods out with those
@gutssubz8232
@gutssubz8232 Год назад
The Army Painter washes are fabulous. The standard ones are comparable to GW but MUCH cheaper. The coloured ones have a specific type of formula which are different to other coloured washes. This uniqueness is what makes those useful. Not too strong but also do the job well. I picked up loads for £1 per bottle when stores were getting rid of stock to bring the new AP paints in.
@NightfireGamingYT
@NightfireGamingYT Год назад
@@gutssubz8232 I love using their Green Tone for orks and their Purple tone for more alien looking minis. I'd stock up at that price!
@artistpoet5253
@artistpoet5253 Год назад
After some experimentation/research, I found two products that not only enhance the control of GW shades and contrast paints but can also be used to improve the performance of the layer and base paints. Product 1: Flow Medium from Master's Touch Fine Art Studio found at Hobby Lobby. Pretty sure you can use any flow medium, but for the price/ounce this one has been my go-to for a couple years now. Product B: Matte Fluid Medium from Liquitex Basics Acrylic line. This turns any paint into a nice glaze and is pretty good as a brush on varnish. You could thin it down with airbrush medium for a spray varnish. Mixed 1:1 with the Flow Medium I found it performs very close to Contrast Medium. There is a gloss version but I prefer to control my lighting on a model surface. Again, others exist, yadda yadda, I'm a cheap old man, etc... Enjoy
@jimdodd6663
@jimdodd6663 Год назад
OK that was super useful. I've been using washes in the order you mentioned for ages but I was never quite sure if I was doing things back to front. The ideas about playing around with wash intensities was great too.
@zeterzero4356
@zeterzero4356 8 месяцев назад
I've been using Runic Gray by army painted (the old speed paints, not 2.0) as a wash for silver metals. Gives them a darker shade and th slightest blue tinge without loosing much of the metallic sheen. I like it anyway. Thanks for the advice!
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Год назад
Thank you for making these kind of videos!
@MyklCarlton
@MyklCarlton Год назад
I see a lot of folk using oil-based washes recently. The Agrax looks like a dispersion issue between the medium and pigment, perhaps a little surfactant (dish soap?) might help? I used inks for washing before Citadel included washes in their range, but their products haven't been great since they took the production in-house/to China.
@davidwasilewski
@davidwasilewski Год назад
Agreed. I’m starting to use oil washes now that GW have changed (spoiled) Agrax earthshade and null oil.
@Dusarrion
@Dusarrion 7 месяцев назад
Before I started customizing action figures (I've learned most of my techniques from miniature painters) I did custom paint jobs on rifles and pistols, and distressing was of course one of the most aesthetically pleasing techniques for guns. Likewise, I do most of my washes by first sealing my paint with varnish, then applying a very thinned out glossy acrylic such as Vallejo Game Color or decent canvas acrylics, then distressing the paint by immediately wiping the wet paint off at the high points with a damp towel, basically hitting the same places one would while dry brushing for highlights. If I wipe off more paint than preferred in any place, I can simply reapply the wash and do it again - it always blends perfectly with the rest of the wash.
@spchannel8890
@spchannel8890 Год назад
vallejo game wash pack is just perfect !
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks Год назад
Great video. For several minutes I was thinking your coat was CGI. 😅
@TheFrokka
@TheFrokka Год назад
What's the best way of making a grey wash for white hair?
@chrisrobinson196
@chrisrobinson196 Год назад
Washes have been some of my great triumphs and tragedies. Somewhere there are a couple of dwarves still sitting years later after the underlying paints just had too much tooth and retained most of the wash...everywhere. When I calm down, I'll try to fix them up.
@KMaynesPaint
@KMaynesPaint Год назад
Opportunity Missed: A 10-second B-roll/montage of "suiting up" into the lab coat. Sleeve, sleeve, collar set, pocket protector (?), brushes therein, and so on. Maybe next science-time?
@samlivera4915
@samlivera4915 Год назад
Fresh trim man. loved the vid as per.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Год назад
Great video and while I'm working on a methiod that does not use highlights but still look good... Which means I don't use washes this was the best video on the topic by far thanks!
@dancingrook8553
@dancingrook8553 Год назад
Personally I use washes over the entire model and don't necessarily reapply the base colours because I like the darker muted look. I do try to match shade colours tho so like yeah carroburg crimson if shading a red thing, drakenhof nightshade for blue etc etc It will be interesting to see your suggestions in this video, I look forward to watching it
@TheTazman49684
@TheTazman49684 Год назад
"He blinded me with science!" I want a TTM lab coat. (Smells a merch opportunity)👃
@biosilva1832
@biosilva1832 Год назад
Very nice video! Definitely helpful
@MisterTingles
@MisterTingles Год назад
For those real nostalgic 90s style paintjobs I find that I get the best effect when mixing a little Crystal Pepsi into my washes...
@danelmore2783
@danelmore2783 Год назад
Excellent video
@chrismcknight7164
@chrismcknight7164 10 месяцев назад
I think the washes over metallic paint give a very interesting "oily" look. Would be great in those places you expect to be oily, such as the moving parts of vehicles
@fenreer01
@fenreer01 Год назад
I like FW inks with plenty of glazing medium and a little flow improver. It seems to work for me.
@karljones9357
@karljones9357 Год назад
Hello there, I’m sorry to say I don’t play or paint tabletop games figures, please forgive me if I’m totally wrong in describing your hobby. So, right, I use agrax earthshade to paint my scale models, ie Planes, tanks and the odd u-boat. It really makes the hard to see detail pop. Landing gear looks used, running gear on tanks look oily and used and decking on u-boats, you can see the minute detail. Washes are really great and I think Games workshop has awesome colours. All so the sales rep in the store in Liverpool says he’s father uses earthshade to help make chrome wheels, just to look better. Thank you for the video, and I’m going to try some of your suggestions on my models. Hope that gets extra credit from you guys.
@GCLEM92
@GCLEM92 Год назад
Midwinter Minis has a video on dip wash I use that on terrain you can mix up a massive batch of it at once.
@briochepanda
@briochepanda Год назад
"Transparent" colours contain pigments with much lower tinting strength than other colours but still maintain a high pigment load, artist paint manufacturers will often label their paint tubes with an icon or a letter to denote the opacity or transparency of the pigment(s) used in each paint. This makes them ideal for glazing as they require less thinning for a subtle effect and also good for mixing into other colours with shifting their hue as drastically. A very good example of the difference between an opaque and a transparent pigment is seeing how Titanium white and Zinc white effect colours they are mixed with, and how much more pastel and chalky colours with titanium white in them go compared to zinc white which lightens without looking quite so chalky. Bright red and yellows pigments are both famously transparent and fugitive (fade in sunlight more quickly). A good test of a colours transparency is to paint an undiluted line of that colour over a patch of a much darker colour and see how much you can see how much of the darker colour you can see through it.
@artistpoet5253
@artistpoet5253 Год назад
Nice hair cut. Great video.
@misternoobstar
@misternoobstar Год назад
I usually mix a big bottle of colorless "wash medium" to which I add paints and inks as I need them. It's pretty easy to get light or dark washes by simply varying how much paint or ink I put in. For a 500ml bottle, my recipe is: - 3 parts distilled water (to thin the paint...obviously) - 1 part rubbing alcohol (so it dries faster and helps with surface tension, use the cheap dollarstore stuff) - 20 drops of acrylic flow medium and 1 drop of dish soap (to reduce surface tension and help it pool only in the recesses) A 500ml bottle lasts me well over a year and doesn't go bad. You do need to shake it before use though because it will decant.
@nessa-parmentier
@nessa-parmentier Год назад
I use my trusty GW washes for now, but I've experimented a lot with them To be honest, Agrax never really did it for me, I used my first (small) pot entirely and never went back to it. If I want a dark brown, I always mix some black (either from a transparent paint or another wash) into my Reikland Fleshshade. I find this color way more interesting, its more orange tone makes it all the more vibrant, and it keeps that character even when darkened down, and I never find that in Agrax. Which also means that when the new wash range came up, I bought a bit of extra Reikland Fleshshade, because I love it as it was and am not sure the new version will do it for me. (I mean, it probably would serve relatively well when mixing with other stuff, but I don't like the thing as much from what i've seen online)
@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
Good video thanks lee
@thecomediccommunist5889
@thecomediccommunist5889 Год назад
2:00 a.m. upload let's go
@waynehaywood4904
@waynehaywood4904 Год назад
Brilliant. Thank you 👍
@Xandrillus
@Xandrillus Год назад
Great video! What are your thoughts on Army Painter or Vallejo washes? I would love to try out the new Pro Acryl washes! Speaking of, what do you think of their wash and glaze medium?
@dikrot
@dikrot Год назад
I wish this video had dropped 3 days ago before I spent an hour trying to figure out what washes do use for what
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 Год назад
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
@miniaturestash
@miniaturestash Год назад
Lab coat = science stuff. Thanks enjoyed the info. Have a great day
@gergotothmihaly2307
@gergotothmihaly2307 Год назад
Extra unpainted minis lying around? Unheard of!
@davidschneider5462
@davidschneider5462 Год назад
Thanks for the video. I've been using a Humbrol enamel Sand thinned way down with mineral spirits to brush "dust" onto vehicles, particularly tracks, wheels, and sides, as well as infantry boots and lower legs for over 30 years and I like the result. This, I believe, would now be called an oil wash. I need to practice doing panel lines on vehicles and aircraft with black washes over a clear gloss coated model to keep the wash only in the recesses. What technique do you use for these effects?
@tunguskalumberjack9987
@tunguskalumberjack9987 Год назад
Not on topic, but that t-shirt is awesome.
@adamb3455
@adamb3455 Год назад
If you slather the area you want to wash in water, the wash will draw into the recesses almost like magic.
@nuvoclassic
@nuvoclassic 8 месяцев назад
as a beginner mini painter for my army from Mechs vs Minions[Oct 2023], this method is VERY interesting! tfs
@kevinirick1415
@kevinirick1415 Год назад
Such a beautiful haircut! AdeptiCon must be close!
@cabanaleather780
@cabanaleather780 10 месяцев назад
The key is to wash your brush, then beat the devil out of it. Also, letting the miniature take the paint it wants while leaving you with the rest.
@orionspero560
@orionspero560 Год назад
Two questions one can you send me a link to that cool brown washroom mentioned? 2nd is there a way to get it to darken the flat planes without creating the pooling effects of the newer GW? I like the color of the cooler brown and the fact that you don't get the uneven this on the flat planes, but I don't like the fact that it doesn't stain them significantly darker.
@xommul79
@xommul79 Год назад
I think the new GW washes need more work post application, you need a slightly damp brush to move the wash into the areas where you need them and wick off excess from flatter areas. Actually requires more skill than the old fire and forget method with nuln. Thanks for the content.
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
They feel sticky to me, and they dry really quickly - making them difficult to work with. Certainly not friendly to newer painters. Thanks for watching!
@trollpaintingminis4496
@trollpaintingminis4496 Год назад
I usually do 5 drops snake bite leather 3 drops agrax earth shade 2 drops of that death claw brown air paint and 8 drops of medium for my terrain and bases and such
@Jakethebaron
@Jakethebaron Год назад
Have you tried to mix monument hobbies glaze and wash medium with their transparents?
@shawnwootan232
@shawnwootan232 Год назад
Liked for cut to Atom in a lab coat "Now I'm ready for science"
@jiml9856
@jiml9856 Год назад
I was just using a wash and wondering exactly this! 😊 Thanks.
@goforitpainting
@goforitpainting Год назад
It was interesting and useful. 👍
@grendelb3298
@grendelb3298 Год назад
Amazing video! Would a wash mixture make for a good “contrast” skin tone over zenithal? Thanks!
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I use washes for that all the time. Thanks for watching!
@jacobdale2314
@jacobdale2314 Год назад
How do you pick between a black or brown wash for a generic, all over shading effect?
@joegkushner
@joegkushner Год назад
I still haven[t gotten how the Transparents work from Monumental Hobbies yet but they are interesting.
@Artmesa
@Artmesa Год назад
If you add highlights before you add a wash, expecting it will be more subtle afterwards, you can add an additional highlight after the wash and get a much better effect than if you only highlight once.
@adammotter
@adammotter Год назад
Definitely will be getting that monument brown! That'll really help replace my agrax since it tends to make my black armor too glossy on flats. Thanks for the recommendation!
@TheGreatWyrdling
@TheGreatWyrdling Год назад
I'm here to say: Pa-chow, what a good video.
@resammon
@resammon Год назад
I need a TM lab coat for when i do science at the paint table too
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
When the patches go on sale, then you can sew one on to lab coat yourself. Or sew it on to whatever you’d like, I suppose. Thanks for watching!
@persildaz5090
@persildaz5090 Год назад
Dear sir, forget pre made expensive washes. Oil paints and some white spirits will create far superior washes. The added advantage of increased control, with the in built ability to edit the results, hours even days later with the application of more white spirits.
@stevenbach312
@stevenbach312 Год назад
Speaking of ProAcryl grandparents, what would you (or anyone) use transparent white for?
@stevenbach312
@stevenbach312 Год назад
Stupid quick type app, transparents not grandparents .
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I used it recently for glazing bone. Worked great for that. Thanks for watching!
@thoughtengine
@thoughtengine Год назад
Bought some ingredients back in 2021 to make some black wash but never did it...
@lego1168
@lego1168 10 месяцев назад
what mode is used at 3:01 ?
@LevTheRed
@LevTheRed Год назад
I'm not a fan of what GW has done with their old washes, either. Do you know of any alternatives that have a similar effect and finish?
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I’ve had a few people tell me that Army Painter washes aren’t a bad replacement, but I only have a couple and haven’t been able to test the others. Thanks for watching!
@ericjome7284
@ericjome7284 Год назад
Now I gotta have a lab coat to paint?!
@stevenbach312
@stevenbach312 Год назад
Is the lab coat with TTM label some new merch?
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
No… but the TM patch will be upcoming merch. It’ll come in Velcro-backed and non-backed. Then you can put it on your own lab coat or whatever you’d like. Thanks for watching!
@stevenbach312
@stevenbach312 Год назад
@@tabletopminions Thanks, but you needed "Blinded by Science" splashed across the back to make it complete.
@Kallistosprom
@Kallistosprom Год назад
I struggle to get consistent tones when a recipe says 50/50, especially when I have 21 T-34 tanks that need to be the same colour.
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
I count drops. That usually works for me. Thanks for watching!
@Severon7
@Severon7 Год назад
Goooooo science!
@joedolph9093
@joedolph9093 Год назад
Coke Zero would be a more cost effective substitute for contrast medium 😂
@jmmartin7766
@jmmartin7766 9 месяцев назад
Just an fyi, I miss the fez. Still a fan, though, none the less... 😁
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions 9 месяцев назад
The fez is VERY warm, but winter is coming. Thanks for watching!
@sunderedpsyche4289
@sunderedpsyche4289 Год назад
Uncle Adam is evolving into Professor Adam
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Год назад
Doktor Uncle Atom, perhaps. Thanks for watching!
@billdefranza4927
@billdefranza4927 Год назад
Say THAT 10 times, fast. Lol
@420alphaomega
@420alphaomega Год назад
Coke zero painted minion when?
@CanuckRoughneck
@CanuckRoughneck Год назад
WOah first comment! love the content!
@SuperDuperHappyTime
@SuperDuperHappyTime Год назад
You should wash every time you use the toilet.
@mechaplatypus82
@mechaplatypus82 Год назад
Ah yes..the glops.
@grapetonenatches186
@grapetonenatches186 Месяц назад
But have you TRIED coke zero?
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions Месяц назад
Yep, I drink it all the time. Thanks for watching!
@jmerb78
@jmerb78 Год назад
it's not real science until you do actually thin paints with coke zero...
@MrMarrok657
@MrMarrok657 Год назад
I mainly use washes for the darkest recesses or on clothing to help sell the folds and creases. never tried GW stuff, thats basically cheating lol.
@eater_of_garbage_
@eater_of_garbage_ Год назад
the concept of "cheating" in the hobby is so silly to me. Who cares about the method as long as the painter is happy with the end result and having a good time doing it.
@natos4unlife
@natos4unlife Год назад
"right?" Count:. Lost track after 16
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