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There's a lot questions about what primer color is best for you to use. Uncle Atom helps you pick the right primer for your miniature painting project.
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@fedos
@fedos 5 лет назад
"You can prime your models with any color you want so long as it's black." - Henry Ford
@memphis_sean8169
@memphis_sean8169 2 года назад
hmmm....I don't think henry ford said that 😂
@fedos
@fedos 2 года назад
@@memphis_sean8169 He said it in a panel at GenCon.
@Sam-zz7gs
@Sam-zz7gs Год назад
He said that about the Ford model T. Interestingly enough it was available in essentially any colour you wanted however due to it's increasingly high demand he made it so that it could only be purchased in black.
@zandosdwarf-king
@zandosdwarf-king 6 лет назад
I see a grey sprue and I want it primed black. No colors anymore I just want it black.
@rzbonilla
@rzbonilla 6 лет назад
OH, I see you are a man of wealth and taste... Pleased to meet you.
@suranae
@suranae 6 лет назад
The Metal is strong with you, Traveler.
@Pao-wb4hp
@Pao-wb4hp 5 лет назад
@@rzbonilla I hope you guessed my name
@rzbonilla
@rzbonilla 5 лет назад
@@Pao-wb4hp What is puzzling me is the nature of your game...
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 5 лет назад
I see the Boyz march by built in a Warrior pose/I have to prime them all 'til none of their plastic shows!
@johnblack9885
@johnblack9885 Год назад
So you are incredibly confusing. Essentially if you want to save yourself a step just prime in the color you want your base color to be i.e. red base=red primer so you save yourself having to spray your base color on top of your primer. Always try to match your primer color to your base color unless you want to create a black basing panel shading effect then prime it in black.
@alishabiermann3618
@alishabiermann3618 2 месяца назад
I'm wanting to paint a fallout character, she has a lot of skin. So should I prime it her skin color or could I do white?
@johnblack9885
@johnblack9885 2 месяца назад
@@alishabiermann3618 white
@gamingjakkS
@gamingjakkS 14 дней назад
That's all good but usually the primer paint isn't the same as the base/layer paints so you may see a slight difference in finish. I prime my models black but I still paint the black parts again 😂
@gamingjakkS
@gamingjakkS 14 дней назад
​@alishabiermann3618 out of those two options I'd go for white personally
@wvjeepguy8178
@wvjeepguy8178 4 года назад
The Krylon Camo paints work because they're part of the Krylon Fusion line, which is specifically made to bond to plastic, as well as being an "ultra-flat". Any Krylon Fusion color would bond, but be careful of anything glossy.
@ironwolf113
@ironwolf113 6 лет назад
Had a discussion like this not too long ago on a friend doing Tau, he wanted to hit them with a olive army/camo theme to them. Sent me updates of a drone being sprayed black and then covered in a olive color, and then having a few tans and lighter green splotches on them. I asked why he just didn't prime in Olive Drab of any kind and go from there, save himself a few steps and he went on saying that it would look bad and the panel lines would look wrong. Bet him a 100 bucks that if he just bought a shade and did a olive prime it, he wouldn't notice the final result at the end compared to his first drone, I even said I would reimburse him those supplies if it didn't work. I get a message like the next evening, "You know your not getting that 100 dollars right?" and a pic of the two drones side by side, I just told him your welcome. :P
@charlesgray6385
@charlesgray6385 4 года назад
Dude owes you 100 bucks hard
@viktornicht260
@viktornicht260 4 года назад
@@charlesgray6385 true. Go get em
@culturedrogue1929
@culturedrogue1929 3 года назад
If you'd been wrong he'd wanted his hundo. A bet is a bet
@TheGoldenDragon_
@TheGoldenDragon_ 3 года назад
Did u end up getting that cash? If he didn't pay up, then declare him a welcher for life from this moment on.
@Bananananamann
@Bananananamann 3 года назад
@@TheGoldenDragon_ If it was purely digital I'm sure they didn't shake on it, so any bets are null and void.
@MrTumnus1987
@MrTumnus1987 6 лет назад
For the traditional white/black/grey in the UK I have been using Halfords (vehicle store in the UK) Matt primers. Super cheap & the best results! Applies really smooth and even priming layers. For colours I love the GW colour sprays, I used to use Army Painter colour sprays but fell out of love with the coverage & thickness of the pigment when sprayed on the model.
@Zych.Grzegorz
@Zych.Grzegorz 6 лет назад
On topic of silver primer - GW sells cans of Leadbelcher. Necrons pretty much paint themselves :D
@SciFiPorkChop28
@SciFiPorkChop28 6 лет назад
And a good # of space marine chapters (Silver Skulls, Steel Confessors, maybe Grey Knights, maybe Iron Snakes)... You could also probably do some great weathering on some nurgle-esque mostly metallic traitor legions or even a Tzeentch Thousand Sons offshoot where they spirit inside the armor had let the armor flake and lose it's color)...
@zandosdwarf-king
@zandosdwarf-king 6 лет назад
Cant imagine dwarvrs without leadbelcher spray.
@olafolafsson2755
@olafolafsson2755 6 лет назад
I prime spacemarines silver - then paint the color I wish. over time they weather themselves!
@amonkeywithabigbrain
@amonkeywithabigbrain 6 лет назад
Olaf Olafson This is a bit of proper genius lol
@alizard7617
@alizard7617 6 лет назад
Grzegorz Zych my friend is arguably the best mini painter in my D&d/ 40k group but he chose necrons due to how easy they are to paint, and I’m just thinking about all that wasted talent; the biggest of Oof’s
@adammc8107
@adammc8107 6 лет назад
Being a lazy painter, I always prime in the base colour. Krylon 'Satin' spray can paints are my go to.
@rustedbeetle
@rustedbeetle 6 лет назад
Something to be aware of with automotive primers. Some auto primers are self etching. These contain a phosphorous acid and zinc combination which is meant to bond zinc to bare metal to help inhibit rust. There are also epoxy and filler primers which are designed to fill in small gaps in sheet metal. They are thick primers which will obscure model scaled details as that is what those kinds of primers are designed for. Likewise, not all Krylon lines are the same. You don't want to spray down your plastic details with a hot all weather protectant enamel. You run the risk of melting the plastic and although great protection for patio furniture, your space marines may not appreciate sporting a protective crust. I have several bottles of Stynylrez and a box full of the Krylon Camo rattle cans. Both are great, and I use each for different applications. Just be aware that some auto body primers are less than ideal for hobby work. :)
@thebrewgeek
@thebrewgeek 6 лет назад
Definitely agree. Stick with the ones labeled "automotive wet sandable". I've tried three different brands and each performed very well with plastic, even that crazy Reaper "Bones" material.
@johnmcconnell9979
@johnmcconnell9979 6 лет назад
The Krylon Camo spray seems to have a very fine solid so that it doesn't obscure detail once it's dry. The spray cans made by Rustoleum seem pretty good too.
@johnblack9885
@johnblack9885 Год назад
The thing I hate about water-based acrylic primers like Stynelrez or Vallejo is that they are a polyurethane primer which makes it like a flexible latex paint that is not sandable. Personally I prefer a good lacquer-based surface primer such as Tamiya or Mr. Surfacer which are sandable and go on super smooth. Mr. Surfacer is hands down the best primer I have ever used. Forget automotive primers. You are going to waste so much paint in your coverage. Just get yourself a small jar of Mr. Surfacer and cut it with Mr. Leveling Thinner 50/50 and airbrush it on and it will last and save you TONS over wasteful automotive rattle can primers. Also better for the environment by not using disposeable rattle cans going in landfills.
@mrksimka1159
@mrksimka1159 Год назад
Oh so this is how this photos of space marines with melting heads and faces of Jason Voorhes are born.
@quinnking8405
@quinnking8405 3 года назад
If you drag the time marker on the video and watch him he looks like hes having an exorcism cause he cant stop moving his hands when he talks
@magnus0017
@magnus0017 2 года назад
As someone who, in 2022, used some of Reaper models which said they don't need to be primed . . . Prime them anyway. Prime everything.
@dinowizard0213
@dinowizard0213 3 года назад
I've heard Ultramarines aren't actually ultramarine.
@lucioluciolucio85
@lucioluciolucio85 6 лет назад
From what I have tried, I'm still with grey primer (black on heavy armored models) Colored primers are good for huge models like tanks, aircrafts etc... Gw prices are insanely high, got a grey primer for 4$ in a hardware store and it gave me the same results
@CamKendellArt
@CamKendellArt 6 лет назад
I was Art Director at Blue Table Painting for a few years and we often used Rustoleum Red Oxide Primer as a base, then followed up with an acrylic floral spray color when needed. I still use Red Oxide for most of my personal projects. I love the earthy undertone it gives the model.
@austinplaisance4456
@austinplaisance4456 6 лет назад
How do you feel about the Rustoleom army camo for me priming up some Death Guards?
@jooshjooshministhetics8048
@jooshjooshministhetics8048 6 лет назад
Here in the Philippines, a lot of people use either Bosny Flat Black, Grey, or White, which are all industrial/non-hobby primers. They're insanely cheap at around $2 or less, and they stick pretty well on models, without clogging the details. Downside is, because hobbyists in the country use it to death, it's kinda hard to find them in hardware stores nowadays.
@fatroller4089
@fatroller4089 6 лет назад
Grey primer best primer, work up, work down. No problems my dudes.
@ridleydiddley5872
@ridleydiddley5872 6 лет назад
Jut a heads up, if you're in the US, you can buy a can of stuff called Quick Color for 97 cents a can at a hardware store like Home Depot. It goes on thin, even, dries fast, and always etches well into both pewter and plastic. I've tried everything from Citadel to Armory (please don't use Armory it's god-awful) and this spray blows everything else out of the water. The only downside is you can only get gloss black, flat black, and gloss white. But at 97 cents a pop you'll never need black primer again.
@armageddon_gaming
@armageddon_gaming 4 года назад
Happen to have a video of using that because it seems no one else can verify this? I'm new to this and I went straight to painting to save money sonI skipped the primer. Also a lot of people are talking about the whole "pick the right color to save time" point. Is there a clear colored primer?
@omarspost
@omarspost 3 года назад
If you live in the UK, Halfords spray paints are a cut above. Not enough people know about their cans.
@XxBloodymistxX
@XxBloodymistxX 6 лет назад
Atom your stuff is always so well done, I basically started my armies because I watched all your videos after stumbling on them by accident about a year ago. I really appreciate you and your vlogs and such, and just like hearing your stories if nothing else. Thank you so much for the hard work you put into your videos! We appreciate you!
@mikeblyth4595
@mikeblyth4595 6 лет назад
I've had this debate so many times, I find some 'experts' advise new folk the most difficult techniques, like priming a bright coloured model black, then you see the same 'experts' mocking the new guys for having really thick layers of paint. It's just daft these days. BTW Vallejo German army red brown primer is awesome for deeper reds xD
@jfreeze8567
@jfreeze8567 6 лет назад
When talking primer it seems the conversation always centers around saving a step or how the primer color effects the base coat. Personally I would like to focus on achieving the highest quality result. You can get a awesome result with Rustoleum primer if you understand how it works with temperature, humidity, and have good can control. Im fortunate to live in TX where I can spray rattle can all year and prefer it to using Vallejo through the air brush. That being said I've never heard anyone address pigment size or how a $10 Tamiya primer compares to a $3 can of Rustoleum.
@lordofthemaiden
@lordofthemaiden 6 лет назад
"In my airbursh room..." Uncle Atom, will you be my actual uncle?
@TriptonStudios
@TriptonStudios 6 лет назад
I love Vallejo as well. Btw They sell the auto primer at Walmart. It’s good stuff. The regular stuff works also especially the rustolium paint and primer in One. Sure they less forgiving than the fine mist GW/Tamiya primers. Army painter is not fine mist so for me they are too expensive since they are the same paint rustolium/krylon paint. The regular big box store primers have gotten much better! I say, as long as your 12in away and slowly sweeping and moving you’ll be fine. Now with fine mist I can’t mess it up even if I tried
@Zacknafin
@Zacknafin 6 лет назад
Figures Of Perfection i have been striking out on getting this at my local store. They dont offer it via weborder. Made me sad due to the good results vs price.
@TriptonStudios
@TriptonStudios 6 лет назад
Zacknafin really your local Walmart doesn’t have it ? How about Home Depot ?
@playingmantis9995
@playingmantis9995 6 лет назад
i use white for brighter colors and greys for everything else maybe black
@crazeh8
@crazeh8 6 лет назад
I always prime with Halfords Grey. Never found another rattlecan primer even remotely as consistent.
@omarspost
@omarspost 3 года назад
Not enough people know about Halfords spray paint. It's very well rated, even in the automotive market.
@hiddenleaf414
@hiddenleaf414 2 года назад
@@omarspost Bu that doesn’t mean anything in the mini world. Plenty of auto sprays use different chemicals to help stick or coat to the metals on automobiles better, that can ruin the plastic on minis.
@Pentence
@Pentence 6 лет назад
I actually watched this after going over many forums for suggestions on primer. I have always done a white or black base as stated however i have noticed some really nice paint+ primer cans popping up. So after some adieu i settled on Krylon paint + primer Fire Engine Red for an army that has primarily black and red for its color. The results have been FANTASTIC! The finish was also matte with mild gloss so metal LOOKED the part out of the can. my acrylics have stuck wonderfully too. thanks for spreading the word on this though for everyone to bring their level up a notch and save us ALL some time.
@fenixasin
@fenixasin 5 лет назад
This guy right here. This guy deserves support for his contribution to the community.
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions 5 лет назад
I appreciate it. Thanks for watching!
@davidnorth6670
@davidnorth6670 3 года назад
Referring to your trick of spraying from above to build in a lighting effect, would it be dumb to prime black, then spray from above with red?
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions 3 года назад
Not at all. It’s a great way to start your Blood Angels, Adeptus Mechanicus, or any other predominantly red army. Thanks for watching!
@davidnorth6670
@davidnorth6670 3 года назад
@@tabletopminions awesome. thanks for the reply, good sir
@jorjthemorj
@jorjthemorj 5 лет назад
Would a grey primer be suitable for something like blood ravens space marines? Not sure whether the primer is black or grey would influence the base coat that much? (obviously white over black if you are painting something bright)
@jameskennedy8661
@jameskennedy8661 6 лет назад
According to Stanley Gibbons, ultramarine was a shade of blue used for many British stamps up to the 1960s. Useless fact.
@Rookblunder
@Rookblunder 5 лет назад
1960's is a long time ago compared to 40,000.
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 5 лет назад
The term originally referred to a specific EXTERMELY EXPENSIVE blue dye popular in ancient Egypt, made from powdered lapis-lazuli. Until the 17th century and indigo dyes, it was the bluest blue you could make, but since it requires a rare ore that's a semi-precious stone for jewlery in its own right, it wasn't exactly easy to come by. In modern times the term just means any blue that is similarly vivid and bright, and only rarely includes any actual lapis because we have equally good and way cheaper techniques available.
@HackMyControlSystem
@HackMyControlSystem 6 лет назад
What type of mic are you using? The pick up and quality is really good.
@maxpower3050
@maxpower3050 6 лет назад
Thanks. I'd heard good stuff about Krylon but didn't know why. I'll look to see if you produced a clear coat video. I'm looking for a good coat for my SM's, IG, Necrons and Team Yankee.
@Oldmanmurphy82
@Oldmanmurphy82 6 лет назад
Excellent video Uncle Atom.
@caspianclaesson7237
@caspianclaesson7237 6 лет назад
Relly helpful but i almost always use zenitel ever sense i watched your video about it
@kizakibraddick9957
@kizakibraddick9957 6 лет назад
Hey Uncle Atom, great video! I just bought myself a Sylvaneth army. Can you suggest a good primer to use for them? Thanks
@kizakibraddick9957
@kizakibraddick9957 6 лет назад
DropperOfRivia - I know but which company makes best brown primer?
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions 6 лет назад
I’d suggest Krylon Camo dark brown if you can find it. A friend of mine plays Sylvaneth and that’s what he did. Thanks for watching!
@kizakibraddick9957
@kizakibraddick9957 6 лет назад
Thanks :)
@auroralee
@auroralee 6 лет назад
Light brown/tan and you could wash it down, OR a dark brown and drybrush. As Uncle Atom says, "well... it depends".
@thebrewgeek
@thebrewgeek 6 лет назад
Uncle Atom is right about those Krylon Camo Ultra Flat primers. Very good. For the Sylvaneth, I did some with the Dark Brown and some with Sand and some with a base of Dark Brown and then sprayed from above with Sand. This worked well and gave some variation throughout. I find that the Krylon Camo Khaki is a good replacement for gray if you want that.
@bennethos
@bennethos 6 лет назад
I did loads of stuff in black primer space marine wise with maccrage blue on top, if I change to grey will my color of miniatures change ?
@DryTEKGI
@DryTEKGI 6 лет назад
I have problem.. I'm paintin Black templars and I couldn't find a black color that is same as Abaddon Black. GW primer (Chaos black) is bit different so I still have to base coat it after.
@TheAurgelmir
@TheAurgelmir 6 лет назад
I mostly use GWs primers (mainly because of ease of access), but I have found most of them to be very good if shaken good before starting. And the added bonus of them being a decent match to their other paints is good. Their metalics seem to dry almost too smooth, and you can have some issues with washes pooling oddly straight on the primer, so I always do a quick once over with the corresponding paint (it also lets me touch up any places I might have gotten a thin coat etc)
@wwoolofl8056
@wwoolofl8056 3 года назад
I have been hunting for a can of gloss black primer, can only find paint+primer. Still terrified to try but you gave me the confidence to at least try it on a test model
@nathanehrenberger4519
@nathanehrenberger4519 6 лет назад
Thanks uncle Adam, always informative
@Mafon2
@Mafon2 5 лет назад
I'm completely ignorant and I think that dark redish-brownish primer is suited for everything...
@rodneykelly8768
@rodneykelly8768 6 лет назад
My favorite primer is Testors Grey, but my favorite "Story" is that of the mother who thinks that "All Weather" enamel is acceptable. Once when I did not have the room the spray figures, and I used a brush on primer. I haven't been able to find that kind of primer recently.
@gregarious_one
@gregarious_one 6 лет назад
Agree with Testors Grey for small detail of color is not needed.
@danmorgan3685
@danmorgan3685 6 лет назад
You can make a brush on primer using acrylic gesso. I don't have the old formula but I recall it being from a video off Cool Mini Or Not. Now I use straight gesso which works pretty well.
@DanielAlves-tn3wu
@DanielAlves-tn3wu 6 лет назад
If I need to, I use Vallejo's airbrush primer as brush in and it works well enough for me. The first coat will be uneven, but that disappears when I apply my base coat on top of it
@coloquialist
@coloquialist 6 лет назад
Vallejo Makes pretty decent brush on. though not many colors... Grey: smile.amazon.com/Vallejo-Grey-Primer-Acrylic-Polyurethane/dp/B005HXHNPA Black: smile.amazon.com/Vallejo-Black-Primer-Acrylic-Polyurethane/dp/B004BN5RUU/ White: smile.amazon.com/Vallejo-White-Primer-Acrylic-Polyurethane/dp/B004BMZVBQ/
@DanielAlves-tn3wu
@DanielAlves-tn3wu 6 лет назад
They actually have more than that. I know I saw a red one on my LFGS once, and a quick search on Amazon found this: smile.amazon.com/Vallejo-RAL8012-German-Brown-Paint/dp/B005D85FH2/ among other results
@MoragTong_
@MoragTong_ 6 лет назад
Good info as always. I don't use anything but the Krylon Fusion paints and have had continual success in all weather conditions. The trick in cold(or humid) weather is to heat the paint and the models. I put my models on a paint stir stick, turn up the furnace and close the door to one of the bathrooms, run the spray paint under hot water for 3-4 minutes...then grab my models and paint, go outside and spray 'em real quick, then back in the(now warm) bathroom to cure. 100% success...have painted 6 Infinity armies that way. I worked for a collision shop for a few years as an estimator and this is very similar to how your car gets painted. Think about it...the busiest time of year for auto body shops is during the worst weather. You don't have to wait six months to get your car fixed because its too cold to paint.
@rabardy2992
@rabardy2992 5 лет назад
Good stuff, Atom (?) - your vids are always useful and informative!
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 6 лет назад
Grey Vallejo Grey is the norm, white if using the 'light' colours e.g. yellow, black if you have a 'dark' painted figure use Chaos Black Citadel. Also I believe (not 100% sure) those Citadel 'base' spray cans have some element of primer within them (correct me if you know otherwise).
@derpimusmaximus8815
@derpimusmaximus8815 6 лет назад
I did try A/B'ing Caliban Green from the can vs airbrushing on some spare sprue bits as an experiment(it's the base colour I use for my guard tanks), and either I was having a real off-day with the airbrush, or the spray isn't the same recipe as the pot; it doesn't stick quite the same. Unless, like I say, I screwed up and over-thinned it or something.
@Medic6666
@Medic6666 6 лет назад
GW say that chaos black and corax white are there only primers. I have used pretty much all the GW rattle can paints on GW models and none have had problems. That is not to say that there might be some, only that i havent seen them :D
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 6 лет назад
@Derphimus Maximus and Medic6666 you mean that if one primes their ultramarines with a spray can of Citadel Macragge Blue then it won't stick too well ? that sounds bad.
@Medic6666
@Medic6666 6 лет назад
i have used almost all the GW rattle cans as primers and not had a problem. I can take that as luck or just a great product. As GW say that only Corax and Chaos are primers there must be a difference between primers and base colours, i just havent seen it....yet ;0)
@derpimusmaximus8815
@derpimusmaximus8815 6 лет назад
Dave, I mean the airbrushed paint didn't stick as well as the spray can. Again, that might be because I used too much flow improver, or didn't mix it right, but the spray can worked fine.
@JPWestmas
@JPWestmas 6 лет назад
Thanks very much for the tips on the vallejo primer colors. I was not aware for some reason. I hate spraying out side. It's windy half the time.
@DebbieBuckland
@DebbieBuckland 5 лет назад
i don't do competition stuff so I use my artist quality gesso as a primer (never the "craft" standard which is student paints) and artist quality paints. I get more paint for my buck in volume. And I need the artist paints for my paintings anyway.
@johnpierce9075
@johnpierce9075 4 года назад
I haven't been able to find the krylon at my local hardware store or walmart, but I picked up the rustoleum camouflage black and it is very matte. Phenomenal results.
@nluan711
@nluan711 2 года назад
A newbie here. I've been looking for a substitute for the Citadel primer which is super expensive in my country. I found a local brand with a Primer Surfacer grey that gives my miniatures a smooth surface without the glossy part. It only cost me around 1.5 dollars.
@Grimmlocked
@Grimmlocked 6 лет назад
the wizkids primer is kinda poop... I've started priming those models too
@lordbaconbane6145
@lordbaconbane6145 6 лет назад
Completely agree. I am currently building the War Mumak of Harad from Games Workshop and I got two primers. A grey for the Oliphaunt and black for the creatures tower. The grey allows me to apply a wash almost right away.
@BeastnBrushes
@BeastnBrushes 6 лет назад
I use grey as my primer. I always count my primer as the "layer 0", it's the base layer that's gonna decide the rest. But saving a step is always good too
@reidgk
@reidgk 3 года назад
Can you do a side by side. One primed one straight to paint. And show us how important it is? This would be highly helpful to fully appreciate the need for primer.
@_lewtz
@_lewtz 6 лет назад
Whats your thoughts on brush on primer? I'm really considering going with airbrush priming, b/c i am terrible with rattle can priming here in the Southeast.
@ryanswartout693
@ryanswartout693 6 лет назад
Another great video. And one that I wish was around 2 years ago when I started. I found out about the wait time for airbrush primer the hard way. Something that has helped with priming and wait time is project planing. If I know that when I finish painting these X models I want to paint Y models. Then I better prime the Y models before I finish the X models. I have made that mistake and lost almost a day of painting. Still make it on occasion.
@john_mystery
@john_mystery 5 месяцев назад
What is the difference between a primer and a paint anyways?
@tomtripp5417
@tomtripp5417 2 года назад
I’ve been undercoating my orcs black and then heavy dry brushing them with brown as a base to build up from. Today I’ve bought khandri dust in a can, so let’s see how it does for them and for Gandalf!
@TheKingofAverage
@TheKingofAverage 6 лет назад
As always, love your stuff! Quick Q: I noticed the screen (or reflection) on the right hand side of the video - are these images you use to remember what to say? If so that's really smart! Here I am writing scripts and heavy editing like a chump. As for priming, I prime in grey 100% of the time. It's nice and in between and I always know how the color will look over it because I'm so used to it. As a software engineer there's a lot of temptation to use 30 different languages and tools to accomplish something, when really working with what you are most familiar is quicker and has more consistently good results.
@blktom
@blktom 6 лет назад
I really suggest taking some presentation classes and/or public speaking classes if you want to do videos like what Atom is doing. Atom is more or less giving a presentation. I will assume as a IT guy (or former IT guy... not sure on his current job) he has had to stand before the suits and explain tech to them, going through each bullet point on what changes are made and how they will effect things. So his RL job or at least past job experience really helps his videos. I am sure Atom doesn't commit to memory his dialog like most presenters, but having bullet points and a timer to give you a ending point to keep you from rambling really helps. Also if you know how long each bullet point will last, you can then control the pace of your video as well as the over all length. As you can see, he has done some editing of the video even after that. So I feel that Atom's post production value is greatly undervalued just because most folks just don't realize it due to how smooth it is and how well the person doing it (either Atom or someone else) does it.To me, Atom's production value is one of the things that set him above a lot of other RU-vidrs.
@TheKingofAverage
@TheKingofAverage 6 лет назад
Oh for sure, love his videos, been a subscriber for quite some time :D He doesn't do so much "reporting" as "talking points" which I think helps smooth it out a bit for no need of a script as there isn't a whole lot of details he *must* hit (prices, dates, counts, new rules, etc). Regardless, I dig the idea of imagery use here. Unlike work, I'm not stuck in PowerPoint here. The hard part I worry about is pacing and judging time. I can easily block out sections with images, but I don't think I'd guess the timing down close enough to make it practical. Will certainly keep practicing though :D
@blktom
@blktom 6 лет назад
For timing, I seriously recommend a digital timer that is placed where you can see it, either on a wall behind your camera or near it. If you really want to splurge, you can have a laptop or second monitor set up like a teleprompter that is set up with a time display big enough where you can read it easily (or just go split screen). I suggest under your camera or next to it, so you are not breaking eye contact with the camera very much. You can find programs for teleprompters online for free, or spend a little coin, up to you. It all depends on how far down that rabbit hole you want to go. Good luck either way!
@TheKingofAverage
@TheKingofAverage 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot! :)
@stevenkirton6373
@stevenkirton6373 3 года назад
I like to paint, im pretty bad but im getting better slowly
@Android-rz8mb
@Android-rz8mb 3 года назад
What’s a good primer color under Ivory ?
@SciFiPorkChop28
@SciFiPorkChop28 6 лет назад
One thing to remember is AVOID satin or gloss sprays or primers... the only issues I've had (other than with some Reaper Bones models) was when I accidentally bought a red satin spray color for some Gates of Antares models instead of a flat red... brush on paints don't want to stick and rattle can seemed to put down a heavier coat than the flat paints I'm used to working with. Also, as others and Atom have said.. you don't need to spend a LOT on basic primers... some people love certain primers (Privateer Press, for example) but a lot of the time I find the $3 and $4 rattle cans just as good and sometimes IMHO with better coverage than the expensive stuff.
@AngloSaxonWheatFarmer
@AngloSaxonWheatFarmer 2 года назад
Until today I primed everything in grey, and honestly the difference is amazing when your using brighter main colours like red or yellow. But yes primer is king, even if it’s not specifically plastic primer.
@jameshalleluyah8133
@jameshalleluyah8133 6 лет назад
Krylon Camo is the only primer I use now the stuff is amazing. The primer holds like mad and leaves a sand paper like coating that just sucks up paint.
@erikbrown1827
@erikbrown1827 6 лет назад
I bounce back and forth, from Grey, then do a Black Wash, to bring out the details. Then move on from there. To Black, for the Metal Armored Mini's. Then i use the old method of Dry Brush metallic paint over that. ;)
@philmitchell8109
@philmitchell8109 6 лет назад
Silver can be a good base for red. Fewer coats to get to full red than white and lifts the red giving it more depth
@TheHeater2121
@TheHeater2121 2 года назад
Primer Yes, paint and primer not so much.
@hiredgoon13
@hiredgoon13 6 лет назад
I prime and base using whatever spray paint will match the colors I plan to paint, i find they all work as long as the finish is matte
@BlastastiC
@BlastastiC 6 лет назад
If you’re in the UK, Halfords Grey plastic primer is good stuff, and a lot cheaper than the GW cans. It’s also a fairly light grey, which I prefer.
@magaru00
@magaru00 6 лет назад
TamTheThird How much? I've been living off of Wilko for a while.
@BlastastiC
@BlastastiC 6 лет назад
The Nerd Zone £6 for 300ml last can I bought. There’s a brownish red primer they do as well that looks like it might have potential, but haven’t tried it yet.
@magaru00
@magaru00 6 лет назад
TamTheThird Thanks!
@rod.h8064
@rod.h8064 6 лет назад
Yeah when I brush on Vallejo primer, I found it needs at least 24 hours to cure on metal. On plastic, it can be a litter earlier but I prefer to let it sit for a day before working on the next colour.
@gmxealot6236
@gmxealot6236 2 года назад
Did my first priming job today on some old dinosaur toys my partner had lying around. Experimenting with B/W and Grey/White zenithal highlight for my Star Wars Legion core set.
@allanwright8790
@allanwright8790 8 месяцев назад
How did the grey/white turn out?
@JPWestmas
@JPWestmas 6 лет назад
The first time I saw an ultra marine I thought it was hilarious that they were painted in ultramarine blue lol!
@Keltik0ne
@Keltik0ne 6 лет назад
40k started off more Grim Camp than Grim Dark.
@gamernick1533
@gamernick1533 3 года назад
Grey prime. Zenith white light from top, zenith shade black (umbral? nadir?) from the bottom
@AoSCoach
@AoSCoach 6 лет назад
It’s funny... as an older gamer, I never put any thought into the colour of priming other than so I go black or white. Priming grey wasn’t really a thing in the 90’s.
@ShenyaKing
@ShenyaKing 5 лет назад
I use Bob Ross Black Gesso! It works!
@Gvaz
@Gvaz 3 года назад
What do you think about Liquitex spray paints for primer? I got some for extremely cheap
@LaMOi1
@LaMOi1 9 месяцев назад
So I’ve recently really got into all this…. I got some Warhammer for my little boys off eBay. I thought if we can make our own game, as I played Heroquest and Space Crusade when I was a kid in the 80s…. So I thought it would be fun for my boys to try painting these minis…. But found I was loving it too! I did Art at university so felt I would be good at this. And I’m not bad, but what’s tricky is the mini’s are SMALL!!! Makes it really finicky…..
@surfingmoose
@surfingmoose 6 лет назад
Thanks for the primer on primers.
@redgreen09
@redgreen09 6 лет назад
yes me i ues anny FLAT OIL bass spay paint and in colors save lot time you do em in gray then you got re do in blue 100 guys then you get bord real life get in whay then you lok at em and say why ? just one over the top thing yes get rid lot thing on what do and saving time is beast hay got in week now go to game shop and show em off and get a game not UUUGGG got do em ben a month and stuck in house well you get it willl see agen
@ScogusXX
@ScogusXX 8 месяцев назад
So, I'm trying to start my first 40k army & I'm going for World Eaters & I have no experience painting besides finger painting in pre-k 😂 should I zenithal prime with black & red primer or do I just do red primer & a red wash?
@sarahware8071
@sarahware8071 6 лет назад
Of course Ultramarines aren't ultramarine blue, they're cobalt blue.
@ochoaE3
@ochoaE3 2 года назад
Newbie here. I started using black primer and love it. However, for some paint schemes I'm trying to create, I don't have the skillset yet to do bright colors over black primer. I've been unable to find grey primer at stores since they're always sold out. I have a can of white primer and have noticed how runny it is when I spray it on minis. It nearly drips down and stays sticky. Is that normal? It doesn't happen when I prime black. I use Rustoleum, by the way.
@JT-KSOL79
@JT-KSOL79 2 года назад
@Tabletop minions I have a pioneer S141 mobility scooter I would like to Paint it a nice Candy apple red I choose red because I wanted to be a nice easy to see for safety reasons. And I’ve never done any painting like that before I wants a RU-vid video or somebody was using a gold primer under candy apple red I think they’re kind of nice and make it with some sort of highlight to it that way but now with what you’re saying may make it too dark I don’t mind some darkness in reforge look rich in some areas on the scooter so I guess would be two-tone Paint job. But what I get from this video is perhaps I should use and white primer the shell is plastic. I would link your opinion on the proper primer for this job please?
@herlocksholmes9369
@herlocksholmes9369 5 лет назад
Does anyone here have any experience with the brand called PlastiKote? They make both primers and varnishes which can be used for all sorts of things, but I'm mainly interested in knowing if their varnishes would be any good for wargaming miniatures.
@Nubgan
@Nubgan 6 лет назад
I always have the intention of doing things like fancy pre made bases and getting things like a decent primer to miss a step, but I always crumble and get more models been as my money is always short. I really just need to do it some time, especially if I use your shading tricks with a couple of colours.
@damienlopez5365
@damienlopez5365 6 лет назад
Don't know if it's just me. But I bought the matte white krylon primer just the other day, and man that stuff does not let plastic glue melt the plastic properly. Did I maybe just put too much primer on the models? Or is this a known issue with that brand of primer?
@WarGamerGirl
@WarGamerGirl 6 лет назад
I tend to do the rattle-can thing where you start with black and do a top-down second pass with white. That way my crappy "FolkArt" paints get a bit of a natural highlight to them =)
@lorebinderentertainment1804
@lorebinderentertainment1804 6 лет назад
Don't forget Apple Barrel and Americana too!
@drebodollaz3504
@drebodollaz3504 4 года назад
😬
@thepiratepenguin4465
@thepiratepenguin4465 10 месяцев назад
Vallejo Hobby spray cans are a must for Bolt action players. I was able to get both my US Airborne in under a week as the primer painted the uniform for me.
@1964wingman
@1964wingman 6 лет назад
Hi Uncle Atom first time to comment on your channel and a big hello from Australia. I'm senior hobbyist and have recently purchased a Cerastus Knight Atrapos from forge world and was thinking of painting the amour a candy red. Now have never done this technique before what would you suggest as a primer.? I have seen other do it on various channels but everyone has their own way of doing things. Enjoy your channel a great deal and have learnt alot.
@Meglin1461
@Meglin1461 6 лет назад
darren watkin I'm not Uncle Atom, but I would recommend a dark red. But it also depends on what colour you want your shadows. To keep it simple though, a dark blood red wound be my suggestion. Also from Australia :p
@1964wingman
@1964wingman 6 лет назад
Meglin1461 thanks for the tip,will do my homework. Melbourne. .
@skuzi
@skuzi 5 лет назад
dude I love your videos. Brown is a go to background/base colour for classic oil painters. so yeah
@djsthemetereman
@djsthemetereman 6 месяцев назад
I have tire raised tire letters which are rubber & I've applied red Rust-Oleum spray paint by using a brush, but it starts to peel & I can see the white coming through because originally that's what they were, so should I use gray primer underneath, this is what I heard
@whatwhatinthewhat4400
@whatwhatinthewhat4400 3 года назад
So what does primer actually do. cause I used to paint warhammer and world war 2 tanks etc like 20 year ago and never primed anything. at most I might wash them to remove and left over chemicles, oils or what ever I imagined was on plastic models back then
@larrybroad8746
@larrybroad8746 3 года назад
i am about to paint my 1970 el camino midnight blue pearl so in urethane with black primer i was told to use a dark primer becouse a light primer would bleed trough is this right.Larry Broad
@joshgifford5821
@joshgifford5821 6 лет назад
FYI people Wizkids "preprimed" minis are worth stripping cleaning and repriming. They are essentially dipped in primer which clogs a ton of detail that is there on the models and they're also hydrophobic when you try to just paint onto the "preprimed" surface.
@diaz5292
@diaz5292 6 лет назад
Joshua Gifford You're hydrophobic.. lol
@joshgifford5821
@joshgifford5821 6 лет назад
DIAZ52 no u. Just trying to be informative here. Paint just beads up on these minis (which is what I meant by hydrophobic) if they haven't been stripped and primed or primed over the preprime. It's just exceedingly frustrating to paint on them if you keep them in the state they are right out of the box.
@applegaj
@applegaj 6 лет назад
Joshua Gifford How do you strip the wizkids minis?
@joshgifford5821
@joshgifford5821 6 лет назад
Jason Applegate if you put them in isopropyl alcohol for a couple hours and scrub them with a tooth brush it should take most of it off the rest can be removed by either soaking them longer and repeating or using an xacto or toothpick to get out the little bits of primer that are left.
@applegaj
@applegaj 6 лет назад
Joshua Gifford thank you. I'll try it.
@JASHVEER22
@JASHVEER22 3 года назад
Hello I got myself an acrylic lacquer spray paint can this be used. I tried the spray it gives the coarse touch of primer. Your views pls?
@bigj597
@bigj597 Год назад
I’m gonna be honest I just now found this video after I destroyed 3 custodies 😂😂😂I didn’t know I had to prime first and now there heads a red 😂😢😔
@dec23
@dec23 9 месяцев назад
finally someone talking about primer! Jesus all the other channels just start painting! Feel like I wana pull my hair out!
@waza987
@waza987 4 года назад
I almost always prime black. Why? Because rattle cans from local store, the only colour in the cheap range that is not high gloss is black. Can get other flat but they are at minimum three times the price.
@franciscoarturoanayamartin2703
OOPS, i went for the first time to buy a Primer and they gave me an USE Green Olive and said that i should start with that primer :(
@Flaktard
@Flaktard 6 лет назад
Finally got into wargamming, thanks largely in part to your videos, new and old. Love the content!
@waynewootton5385
@waynewootton5385 4 года назад
i want to paint my model with tamiya met sliver what kind of primer should i use and will met.sliver give me a good gloss look or should i use a tamiya clear coat i need help with this can you help i'm useing spray cans thank you
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