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Where Did CHIODOS Go Wrong?? Analyzing one of post-hardcore's most influential bands 

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my name is julian and this is my first video!!! hello!!!!!! this is the first vid in a series where i break down the career of various emo/scene/poppunk/posthardcore bands and discuss their legacy and influence and in this case, where they may have went wrong. i love Chiodos! let me know what you think about my takes in the comments.
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I know this vid is long so heres some timestamps if you want to skip around:
3:25 Alls Well That Ends Well album
7:35 Bone Palace Ballet album
10:40 Craig owens Side-Projects
12:30 inner-band turmoil and kicking out Craig
13:52 ILLUMINAUDIO album
19:51 DEVIL album
28:56 closing thoughts: Where Did Chiodos Go Wrong?
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@ONEBALLINMYBUTT
@ONEBALLINMYBUTT 4 года назад
This is just great to finally listen to someone else talk about chiodos other than myself.
@markhickman3160
@markhickman3160 3 года назад
I am sure your boyfriend will discuss chiodos with you.
@chancelord8052
@chancelord8052 3 года назад
@@markhickman3160 lmao bro you're a fuckin lame ass dude for that comment 😂
@IanAberbach
@IanAberbach 3 года назад
lmao for real
@desertgirl3374
@desertgirl3374 3 года назад
I will!
@ryrymckelvey3
@ryrymckelvey3 2 года назад
Lol I just found this video and miss this stuff too!
@emilyj9034
@emilyj9034 4 года назад
In 2006, when I first got my driver’s license at 16, I drove my best friend and boyfriend about 4 hours away, after school, to go see Chiodos touring with The Devil Wears Prada and Alesana, using only printed out Mapquest directions. (This was before phones had internet or GPS lol) We drove there and back in the dark and went to school the next morning without sleeping, in my new Chiodos t-shirt. Looking back, I have no idea how we did that but it’s one of my favorite memories. About half way there, we stopped at McDonald’s to get dinner, and the guy at the register shouted out loud, “Y’ALL GOIN’ TO THAT DEVIL WEARS PRADA SHIT??!!” Chiodos will always be one of my favorite bands of all time.
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 4 года назад
thats epic :) the good old days!!!! :')
@lastnameawesome8982
@lastnameawesome8982 4 года назад
Thats an epic show, so jelous
@ONEBALLINMYBUTT
@ONEBALLINMYBUTT 4 года назад
I got a signed tdwp drum stick from a warped tour lol miss this shit so much
@justsaying4488
@justsaying4488 4 года назад
great tour. Saw all 3 as well
@deathom4505
@deathom4505 3 года назад
im so jealous
@sammysabo
@sammysabo 4 года назад
okay but we need a video on the Brand New and Taking Back Sunday beef
@jonnymurgatroyd856
@jonnymurgatroyd856 4 года назад
This for sure!
@sincerlyeric6585
@sincerlyeric6585 3 года назад
That and the Taking Back Sunday Straylight Run beef.
@sillygoose420
@sillygoose420 3 года назад
omg YES
@brittanythornton4426
@brittanythornton4426 3 года назад
YES
@thefaeking
@thefaeking 2 года назад
YES LOL
@stevelatour7886
@stevelatour7886 4 года назад
I think they really went wrong when they kicked Craig out. When they brought Craig back it was too late to salvage the ship. By the time he returned in 2012, it was a way different scene and so many other bands emerged, ADTR, Asking Alexandria, SWS etc.. I think people really just moved on
@TheSupart91
@TheSupart91 4 года назад
yea theyre the academy is... of the punk/screamo scene they paved the way and tripped on their own selves
@wadesteele4767
@wadesteele4767 4 года назад
exactly
@3056398
@3056398 4 года назад
@@TheSupart91 Can you elaborate a bit more about how the Academy is sort of tripped over themselves?
@WilkesBarreWrestling
@WilkesBarreWrestling 4 года назад
La Dispute? You know. an ACTUAL post-hardcore band?
@stevelatour7886
@stevelatour7886 4 года назад
Wilkes-Barre Wrestling sure La Dispute has definitely enjoyed some success but not to the level of any of the bands I mentioned, or even chiodos in their peak but more importantly they’ve never really been a part of the warped tour/alt press scene that we’re talking about. And I don’t think they’ve ever wanted to be, they’ve always kinda done their own thing
@deereekk
@deereekk 4 года назад
Super excited to see the Jason Hale love. He is from my hometown in South TX and actually was in my audio engineering class at community college around 2013. I talked to him a few times and he was super chill and humble about what Chiodos had done up until that point. He was telling me about how they used some cool recording techniques like bouncing vocals off of a book shelf during the recording of illuminaudio. Super under rated guitar player.
@cat_doge
@cat_doge 4 года назад
ok the saosin edit when you said "wow that's 7 years" LITERALLY HAD ME DED I hope you continue that posthardcorememeshit in your videos
@kristenhitchcock1640
@kristenhitchcock1640 3 года назад
SAOSIN
@cat_doge
@cat_doge 3 года назад
@@kristenhitchcock1640 riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
@jerrycurldante962
@jerrycurldante962 4 года назад
Bro you should do a video on alesana
@jared1153
@jared1153 3 года назад
THEY ARE AMAZING
@kennethcastaneda1909
@kennethcastaneda1909 3 года назад
Yes he Fucking should!!! Then do circa survive!!!!!!!!
@nellanellaperched6767
@nellanellaperched6767 3 года назад
@@kennethcastaneda1909 I second that circa survive notion. Or The Sound of Animals Fighting
@brandiyount5365
@brandiyount5365 2 года назад
Super late but YES!! ALESANA 👏👏
@thefrankenfinds1689
@thefrankenfinds1689 2 года назад
He should do Funeral For a Friend after Circa.
@hortenseear7765
@hortenseear7765 4 года назад
your doing the lords work son
@cat_doge
@cat_doge 4 года назад
I legit put down EVERYTHIGN I WAS DOING the second this video showed up on my homepage. Chiodos is one of those bands that I love SO MUCH and no one I know IRL can relate whatsoever. Now that I'm here for this video, I'm terrified of what you're going to expose them for hahahahaha
@Ashley-ix6rr
@Ashley-ix6rr 4 года назад
Craig Owens was a god back then to all us scene kids. There were so many bands during that time that were swapping lead singers or starting side bands thinking that they could continue the success other places, which hurt the main band. If you haven’t already, Taking Back Sunday would be a great band to talk about and how they came back and were still selling out shows in 2017 & 2018. Saw them both years, amazing, highly suggest seeing them if they go back on tour. Jonny Craig would also be an interesting one to dissect.
@skylertipton6486
@skylertipton6486 4 года назад
I second that Jonny Craig dissect
@Dystxnn
@Dystxnn 4 года назад
Jonny Craig dissect. Yes, please.
@sincerlyeric6585
@sincerlyeric6585 3 года назад
I think he heard you on that Craig one. I went to a lot of Local Shows but never too many real venue shows. Seeing TBS for thier comeback Tour is something I'll always cherish.
@fisharepeopletoo9653
@fisharepeopletoo9653 3 года назад
All 3 parts are out about Johnny Craig
@anon_usa4209
@anon_usa4209 3 года назад
Taking back sunday is one band I have yet to see and really hope someday I could. Not sure if it will ever happen but I hope it would haha
@baconlady11
@baconlady11 4 года назад
Their first 2 CD’s were always in my CD player in my first car when I was in High School. I also lived in Michigan and was lucky enough to be in the Undertakers Thirst For Revenge music video. I was also at the very last Cinematic Sunrise show in Pontiac. I love your videos dude I feel like you understand me lol.
@devvoncrowder5057
@devvoncrowder5057 3 года назад
Prolly been to shows together. Davidson represent
@pandahernandez7794
@pandahernandez7794 3 года назад
Chiodos is criminally underrated today and I'm so glad this video exists
@La_br00tal_mija
@La_br00tal_mija 7 месяцев назад
It’s 2023 and TikTok still hasn’t changed this. Craig deserved a much better opener for his current acoustic tour
@jakeniemiec8559
@jakeniemiec8559 4 года назад
Their concert were the best!! They played for 2 hours and all of their songs, everyone would sing along, and moshing was friendly!! Good times! Saw them with tdwp, fftl, and chiodos. One of many concerts!!
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 4 года назад
wow tdwp fftl and chiodos thats a god tier lineup haha
@jeremypatrickrayvasquezzyq1212
@jeremypatrickrayvasquezzyq1212 4 года назад
I’ve fallen in love with your channel man! As a person that was emo af and went to dubstep around 2014, I still hold my scene/emo days so close and you have a way of bringing back that nostalgia 💜
@LouieNJ
@LouieNJ 3 года назад
You should do one of these on Saosin. As much as I love that band they have also always been a straight up mess. Cove was on a podcast in the last couple years that shed a lot of light on the time of him leaving the band too so the info is out there. EDIT: I wrote this before you brought up Saosin in your video lol.
@jesselsx2629
@jesselsx2629 3 года назад
your 2008 camera really makes the channel. and i mean it i absulutely love it
@hvysleepr1035
@hvysleepr1035 4 года назад
I was a roadie for Asking Alexandria on their ‘Reckless and Relentless’ tour, and Chiodos w/ Brandon Bolmer was on the tour as well...I remember there were a couple of shows where they literally got booed the entire time because everyone wanted to see Craig. I personally think Illuminadio is one of, if not their best album front to back..and Tanner, their drummer at the time; is seriously one of the best drummers I’ve ever seen live. I can say, first hand, that those guys are some of the coolest, most down to earth people on the planet. And since Asking weren’t much in to smoking weed, I found myself hanging on Chiodos’ and Emmures busses quite a bit. :p love these guys and your vids are awesome man. Keep up the good work!
@hvysleepr1035
@hvysleepr1035 4 года назад
Devin Poole ah dude, it was so rad. It was back in 2011, and Chiodos was a band I had previously listened to in high school constantly, just a couple of years prior to that....so , it was so weird in the coolest fucking way, to find myself hanging on their tour bus with them..absolutely surreal. And to see how far Asking has came since then blows my mind. They were all incredibly nice, and we all felt like family by the end of it. One of the coolest experiences of my life, man. 🤙🏼
@brandiyount5365
@brandiyount5365 2 года назад
I'm just now watching this video, so just now seeing your comment lol but still... That was actually my first metal concert (The Pageant in STL, MO) 🤘😂 Lower Than Atlantis, Evergreen Terrace, Chiodos, Miss May I, Emmure, and Asking Alexandria. I remember being super bummed I missed Craig, but I personally loved Brandon. So I was basically fine with whoever I saw singing for them lol. I had VIP to that show and still have the picture of my group of friends with AA (who were thoroughly hammered 😜), including Ben basically hanging on me. I also still have the picture of me with Levi from Miss May I and the shirt he signed (he's so soft spoken and sweet compared to appearing like a fucking demon on stage 🤣). I was also in the very front (only thing between me and the stage was the security rail and security guy haha). Hell of a great show. Never been so covered in someone else's spit (LTA spit on the crowd basically their whole set 😷 and sweat (mostly the guitar player of Chiodos 🤦🏻‍♀️) tho... 👀😂🤘
@LKNardo
@LKNardo 4 года назад
I remember playing the sims 2 and “Is it Progression if a cannibal uses a fork” was a song on the alt rock station in game. It blew my mind lol.
@kristinakehrer
@kristinakehrer 5 лет назад
I hope the band sees this, they will be so honored. Well done.
@louofm1
@louofm1 5 лет назад
Kristina, don't know about the rest of the band but Im sure I can link this video to guitarist Pat Mcmanaman (pronounced Mc-man-ah-mon). I think he is still tight with drummer Derrick frost
@jamhawk75
@jamhawk75 10 месяцев назад
@@louofm1 Did you ever find out what Pat thought of this?
@louofm1
@louofm1 10 месяцев назад
@@jamhawk75 I'm not sure but I sent it to his wife and she told me she would show him. I'll ask them next time I see them.... Maybe a couple of times a year
@scipiolyons9612
@scipiolyons9612 5 лет назад
Why doesn't this have more views? I'm already hooked on this channel man. Call me Subscriber 39.
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 5 лет назад
lmao thank you so much!!!
@nellanellaperched6767
@nellanellaperched6767 3 года назад
Yeah dude I've watched several of your videos at this point. Youre super well informed and you full capture the culture at that time man. Super big bravo
@kristenhitchcock1640
@kristenhitchcock1640 3 года назад
I am here for these videos! Seriously, thank you so much!
@the_BattleGoose
@the_BattleGoose Год назад
I was definitely in that minority of loving Illuminaudio. It's very nice to see the fan base come around and give the album the appreciation it deserves.
@CHlODOS
@CHlODOS 5 месяцев назад
oh man I just got into chiodos!!!!! I was a toddler when they had their run. even then, I think ur small analysis on the differences between bone palace and alls well is spot on !!!! I love this video
@alexoh9671
@alexoh9671 10 месяцев назад
They were one of my fav bands! I've been binging these vids for the nostalgia
@Cringey_Swine
@Cringey_Swine 4 года назад
This is an awesome video man!! Craig Owens truly is one of the best vocalists/showman I've ever seen in person with Chiodos and D.R.U.G.S. respectively so I definitely agree with you on that. I really wish both of these bands would do a reunion tour someday or at least record another album. Devil really seemed like D.R.U.G.S. 2.0 imo. I grew up with D.R.U.G.S. after seeing them for the first time in 2011 as co-support for Hollywood Undead and didn't know D.R.U.G.S. or Craig Owens and when they split I got hooked on Chiodos. I still digged both bands a lot. It's crazy to think that I've listened to Craig Owens music in general for close to 8 years now because of that one tour alone. Chiodos really seemed like one of those bands that people really knew or didn't know because of the name alone that I've noticed over the years. They still are so underrated to me to this day and I wish they could have continued.
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 4 года назад
i hear you! such great classic music, still good to this day. i wish craig would make some heavy music again! but yo thanks for watchin :)
@Cringey_Swine
@Cringey_Swine 4 года назад
@@thecozyrep No problem!! I hope he gets back into heavy music someday. BadXchannels is pretty cool his new project but seems so much more different lol.
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 4 года назад
@@Cringey_Swine yeah he's on some RnB shit hahaha
@stephengubicza9020
@stephengubicza9020 5 лет назад
yo this this video is great ! Chiodos played a huge part in my life and I love seeing that they were important to other people too. I agree that getting rid of Craig was the beginning of the end for the band. Keep creating content like this cause I know me and many others will be watching.
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 5 лет назад
thank you so much!
@cvstar51
@cvstar51 4 года назад
I think bone palace ballet is a complete masterpiece! Instrumentally it’s on a whole other level compared to all’s well ends well. The collapse of chiodos is really so unfortunate. Should’ve been so much more
@NuggetsXInfinite
@NuggetsXInfinite 2 года назад
imo All's Well that End's Well has an atmosphere to it that sounds so unique. But yeah Bone Palace is probably the more mature album
@yes.2144
@yes.2144 Год назад
Alls well is their best album out of their 3 albums they made. 😂 future looked so bright for them but went downhill so quick. Craig made them a unique sound and their drummer before he left as a savage. Any other side projects from these guys weren’t crap without one another and that goes for Craig as well. He wasn’t crap without them.
@j-sun19
@j-sun19 3 года назад
You should do a video on Anthony Green and Circa Survive. Arguably one of the most influential figures of the warped tour scene.
@user-ux1vj9vx7s
@user-ux1vj9vx7s Год назад
Yeah.. because when I think of Warped, I think of Circa Survive
@ozeldiaz6437
@ozeldiaz6437 3 года назад
Thanks for making this video! My favorite album by CHIODOS is ILLUMINAUDIO.
@mattheworona1658
@mattheworona1658 4 года назад
Cozy representative you my friend are a national treasure. Keep up the good work!!!
@holychiodos
@holychiodos 3 года назад
I love the internet. Never did I ever expect to have a mini doc done on a "small" band from my youth. I was so happy to see you compare them to one of my other favorite bands mewithoutyou. Awesome content Cozy.
@andhenevercameback7117
@andhenevercameback7117 3 года назад
Craig was also on the second The Sound Of Animals Fighting album during the end of his first run with chiodos great video man! Keep em coming!!!
@hdgdude
@hdgdude 2 года назад
New fan exploring your old stuff. Commenting at the beggining the video. Over the last few months, you've dictated my next day's playlist. A1 bro. Love you *gentle cheek kiss* *unless that's not cool* *in which case* *impressed eyebrows*
@alterise
@alterise 4 года назад
So dude, I've watched like 20 of your videos now from the ciwwaf rise and fall to the bryannstars rise and fall, to the 3 part never shout never videos and I've been missing the 2007 scene, I was literally raised on blink and grew into the neon scene and I've missed it so much, but watching these videos about all these old bands and even discovering new old bands I can feel on has been sick as hell. Keep doing this. You have earned a sub which I dont do often.
@dannyboylan5926
@dannyboylan5926 2 года назад
Chiodos' Alls well that ends well & The Killers' Hot Fuss. Best albums ever made. Also I am editing this comment after watching your full video because I have to tell you what a great video it was! I'm so late here, but awesome video!
@jrkern
@jrkern 4 года назад
Get on this late... I’ve been wicked thirsty for Chiodos (just got Bone Palace Ballet on vinyl.... cause I’m that guy). This is quenching me real good. Thanks man!
@InTheMindOfDavid
@InTheMindOfDavid 4 года назад
*NOTE: Sorry for the long as comment, I’ve just got a lot to say about Chiodos since they’re one of my favorite bands of that era and the album All’s Well That Ends Well is one of my favorite albums of all time. Seriously there’s not a single song on that album that isn’t great. Chiodos came into my life at a time when I really need them too. When those songs almost felt like they were written specifically for me and where I was at that time in my life, despite my being 13 years old in 2006. That album help me understand my emotions a little more and helped to understand that I’m wasnt the only one that felt the way I did, or thought the way I did. I’m a writer so I think of things in same way as Graig does in the those song. He also inspired my writing A LOT. Chiodos is an extremely underrated band, if you haven listened to them please do. You will not be disappointed.* Chiodos was a great band and like you said, really had the potential to be a Legacy band for the Scene at that time. I found them on MySpace like all of us did due to the song “Baby, You Wouldn’t Last...” which along with “No Penguins in Alaska” became instant classics of the era. I still listen to The Heartless Control Everything (Which I personally believe might be a Kingdom Hearts reference due to the time in which it was release) and All’s Well That Ends Well. Chiodos was a legitimately great band making great music where as a lot of bands from that era old got big because they had attractive guys, and sometimes girls, that dressed in the “Alternative” style, let be honest. There were plenty of bands like that. BOTDF, Brokencyde, Millionaires, Jeffrey Star, Death in December(if you’ve ever herd of them. They were decent band but just never quite could make it to the next level), BlessTheFall(ok band, but just weren’t quite there), and so on. Chiodos on the other hand, much like MCR, were really making some of the best music to come from that scene. While MCR were able to break into the mainstream with “Helena” and “Ghost of You” appearing on MTV2, and the release of the Black Parade album. Chiodos never really did. They remind a sort of hidden gem to the wider public. Which is a shame because there’s bands be given credit for boosting the Scene that weren’t actually part of it but Chiodos never gets their credit expect from their fans or other that were involved in the genesis of that scene. I think the reason for that, why they don’t get the recognition they deserve and where they tripped up, is because of Chiodos and Craig Owens splitting and going separate ways. I’m not exactly privy as to why this happened, but it came the worst time. They had just dropped the Bone Palace Ballet, with “The Undertaker’s Thirst...” and “Letters From Janelle”. I remember Bone Palace being such a highly anticipated album on MySpace. It’s all anyone I knew could talk about. We were just biting our nails to see what Chiodos was doing next. Then they dropped the music video for “Undertaker’s...” and shit blew up. Everyone was going crazy for it, and then of course they dropped the album and most everyone loved it. I was one of the people that though it was good but preferred All’s Well... to Bone Palace... Then they split with Craig, and I remember just being devastated. I could imagine Chiodos without Craig’s voice. He WAS the voice of Chiodos, there’s no arguing that. When you think Chiodos you think Craig Owens belting out “SHE LOVES MEEEE, SHE LOVES ME NOOOOOOT...” There’s no replacing that. When Illuminotio drop with the new singer, it just wasn’t the same and I think a lot of other fans felt the same way. It wasn’t that we loved Craig Owens so we refused anyone else. It was because the sound was different they weren’t in a different direction. I’m pretty sure Craig wrote most of not all the lyrics for Chiodos, and their subject matter and metaphors for falling in love and falling out of love, feeling like you’re stranded on a beach with no one but yourself and a broken heart, letting go and moving on, all that and how Epic Chiodos sound was why I loved them. No other band from that era sounded like them. It’s a little hard to explain their sound with words. Like yes they sounded like a Post-Hardcore screamo band but at the same time the intricacies of the music and each instrument woven into the composition with melodic guitar and piano, accented with an almost Classic style of music, all elevated and extenuated by Craig Owens voice. That’s how I’d describe it, a Classically influences Hardcore band. That’s the best way with words that I could describe it. Unfortunately, they made a bad career choice as a band by splitting with Craig. They had just arrived at they’re peak critically, commercially, and musically. We the fans who kinda fell away just felt it wasn’t the same anymore. It was almost like hearing a completely different band. It’s like when Alice In Chains got a new singer after Layne Staley died. It just wasn’t the same. Replacing band members, especially as a band is reaching their peak and have already established their sound and style with 3 albums, is an extremely hard thing to do. They’ll never be able to find another person that can play and/or song, or write songs the same way as a previous member. Ever. It’s extremely difficult and very damaging to a band’s momentum musically and commercially, especially so when the member being replaced is the singer/songwriter of the band. That’s the voice of the band, both literally with sound, but also figuratively with subject matter, subtext, undertones, themes, and so on and that was Chiodos’ downfall.
@miacruz1543
@miacruz1543 4 года назад
Well I read the whole thing and- I'd have to say I completely agree with you!
@Mabdog3597
@Mabdog3597 4 года назад
@@miacruz1543 same! :D except I am 22 now so in 06 I was 8 lol but bands like Jamie's elsewhere soilwork a static lullaby Slipknot alesana enter shikari motionless In white this romantic tragedy all got me into metal music when I was in 5th grade thanks to my brother and his friends
@ONEBALLINMYBUTT
@ONEBALLINMYBUTT 4 года назад
Yeah, that’s long af lol I’ll come back to read bcuz I love chiodos
@thefaeking
@thefaeking 2 года назад
I'm two years late to the party but youre great! Wish I knew you in high school during my emo era, you're super charming. I can't wait to see this channel grow !
@XchuggsX
@XchuggsX 3 года назад
I still jam Illuminaudio to this day, I think "Brandon era" chiodos was very underrated. Especially with the instrumentals, I found a lot of very memorable things about it! Jason Hale was definitely a key part of that album/chiodos' sound (one reason I think I wasn't really feeling 'Devil')
@Comicjakeford
@Comicjakeford Год назад
I totally agree. The arrangements and overall songwriting in illuminaudio are undeniably great. Jason also rips on that album.
@Taylagio
@Taylagio Год назад
I agree, when Thomas Erak joined I thought devil was gonna be a banger of an album, but you could hear the lack of Jason's style, which made chiodos for me
@alexmacwilliam5566
@alexmacwilliam5566 2 года назад
I toured on chiodos’ comeback tour. I got STORIES. Love the video bro!
@DWreck958
@DWreck958 4 года назад
Dance Gavin Dance or Alexisonfire's impact on Much Music and the Canadian Post-Hardcore scene. Love the Underoath mention. Define the Great Line is one in my top 20 post hardcore albums of all time.
@sgt.lincolnosiris4111
@sgt.lincolnosiris4111 4 года назад
Dallas green will always be a prick in my opinion. Left to start that hipster bullshit.
@purpl3spri7e
@purpl3spri7e 4 года назад
Great video, I love chiodos. I couldn't listen to their third album at the time because they kicked out Craig Owens, lol. Owens definitely knew how to work a crowd and his live performances were sick.
@brandonjamesellis
@brandonjamesellis 3 года назад
Just had to drop what I was doing while listening to this video and say, man, you’re REALLY good at telling stories. Keep doing this. I could see this style of video getting huge. kudos.
@LetBygonsBeHexagons
@LetBygonsBeHexagons 4 года назад
Your videos have had me up late all night. Great work dude and keep it up!
@jerkey
@jerkey 2 года назад
Such a reoccurring theme man and it's such a drag that so many bands go through this. If you're able to do the gritty work and explain the unique scenarios of bands, that's fucking awesome. I'd love to hear similar coverage from out on so many bands like TBS, hot water music, and rise against.
@ThomasTheCure
@ThomasTheCure 2 года назад
I also saw Chiodos once on the 2013 Warped Tour! Got All's Well signed and shook Craig's hand, which meant a lot to me at the time. Catching up on all your videos now! It's nice for someone to be making videos about scene bands FFS! They need more love.
@MGMTxILEGITx
@MGMTxILEGITx 3 года назад
Dude your speaking of first album is spot on haven’t finished video but what you said about that album I say all the time bro great content
@CapnCoda
@CapnCoda 4 года назад
Oh my god. YOUR CHANNEL HITS ME JUST RIGHT YOU HAVE NO IDEA. ALSO GREAT GUITAR AND VIDEO YESSSSS CHIODOS
@chriscurrallo5700
@chriscurrallo5700 3 года назад
at the time I really enjoyed Illuminaudio, there are some bangers on that album! not sure if I knew I was in the minority, but... just finding your channel now, love it!
@MarioFromMario
@MarioFromMario 4 года назад
Hey man I just found your channel and I’m loving your videos. I think you’ve got a lot of great insights! You’re the only other person I’ve ever seen mention the distortion effect on the unclean vocals on Illuminaudio.
@harrydoesnt
@harrydoesnt 2 года назад
The riff at the beginning took me back and gave me a good chuckle. 😄
@strangledwords
@strangledwords 4 года назад
(i'm aware this video is over a year old but i've been watching all your videos lately lol) personally, even as a longtime fan of chiodos, i loved brandon as the singer. he had an amazing vocal color to add to the band and i was bummed when he was gone. maybe it would've been cool if they had two singers to bounce off each other lyrically and in singing techniques. In whatever Craig offered in terms of singing, brandon really helped with the clarity needed for their songs sometimes. craig was great, don't get me wrong, but i think brandon getting added even as a second vocalist would've given them a bit more grounding in terms of their vocal sound. i saw both chiodos and craig owens live years ago (warped and a small venue respectively), and he's a great performer, so i think he could've brought brandon out better in terms of stage presence back then. these bands all have major issues in helping each other out from within the band. it's always like they're out to sabotage themselves instead of actually progressing. they should've just taken a hiatus after the craig thing instead of releasing something with someone new. fucking wild now that we look back at this.
@thatsjusthowitgoes
@thatsjusthowitgoes 3 года назад
unpopular opinion: Brandon was their best vocalist and Illuminaudio was their best album
@SymphanyinSorrow
@SymphanyinSorrow 4 года назад
Thomas Erak making music with Craig Owens is a dream come true, but I expected it to sound like Chiodos meets Fall of Troy. Instead I feel like the production kept the guitar pretty down low.
@Taylagio
@Taylagio Год назад
Yes!! I thought the guitars would be more in the forefront, but wasn't the case
@Ralph-ha
@Ralph-ha 5 лет назад
Hi Julian, thanks for making this awesome video! I grew up listening to Chiodos back when I was 14 years old (I'll be 30 this year lol) Anyhoo, I thought I was the only one wondering what went wrong with Chiodos? This is one of those bands that had so much potential and they could've been viewed more on RU-vid or listened too. In my opinion, I think that it had to do how this band were known. Let me explain, keep in mind 2005 was the birth of RU-vid, so not a lot was going there. Chiodos was visible to me because I had high school friends who burned me a copy of their first album, plus I didn't really have a computer to watch their videos on AOL or Yahoo. Also, Social Media was barely on the rise between 2000's. Yes, we had Myspace, pff even Hot Topic but if you look now it's so easy to support a band from any social media. To become HUGE!!!! So many underground bands can easily get more contacts, support & fanbase on any social network (and I'm talking about Facebook & Instagram) I do agree with you though, I believe the band letting go Craig Owens was a big mistake. Having to depart from a band is not so bad sometimes. When I found out Craig was working on other side projects I was a little bum but I didn't mind his solo career..until D.R.U.G.S!! But going back to the time Chiodos reunited (with Craig Owens) I feel like there wasn't much hype. Like, ok "Who the hell is Chiodos again?" And I know they were probably aiming for the new/ younger audience. But I feel like it all fail. I mean if you look as of now on RU-vid, there last album "Devil" doesn't really have many views. This goes to the other early scene, post-hardcore, emo bands as well. Look at Senses Fail, AFI, Silverstein, Hawthorne Heights, Bayside, etc. They still make music but they don't get many views or are "into". A lot more audience are interested what's popular on there channel or post or whatever is on their feed 👉Twenty One Pilot, Neck Deep, Imagine Dragon.... Chiodos will always have a place in my heart. As you mentioned, I can too go on listening to their first album (all of the songs). It may be one of the best album! "All Nereids Beware & Lindsay quit lollygagging" are my favorite. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 5 лет назад
thanks so much for watching and thank you for the kind words!! i definitely agree with you on the social media aspect. Chiodos definitely came right before that whole explosion of media. and when they came back with Craig the scene had already progressed so much and the kids were into different things, the whole metalcore/post hardcore wave was dying down at that point. but yeah thanks so much for watching :)
@Pirategod23
@Pirategod23 3 года назад
Dude i found you cause the Craig video yt knows I’m a JC fan I’m glad I did the nostalgia is real
@davecresar
@davecresar 3 года назад
Great video, my dude!
@jannellemestice259
@jannellemestice259 3 года назад
I needed this video.. That intro was epic and impressive as fuck
@ashley8774
@ashley8774 3 года назад
Please make a video about Anthony Green!!! Love your videos and appreciate the work you put in 🙏🏽
@CarlieMaria28
@CarlieMaria28 5 лет назад
wooo hoooo julian started his own youtube channel!! 🐣
@angwishedmedia3972
@angwishedmedia3972 2 года назад
I love how much I learn about the music I love with your vids.
@thomasnault7811
@thomasnault7811 4 года назад
One of my bands opened up for chiodos at the Outland ballroom in Springfield, MO during the devil era! They were fucking great I think Craig has some of the best screams I’ve ever heard live shit almost melted my face off. Sorry if I’m blowing up all your videos I just found your channel recently and I’m loving all the videos!
@fernandomartinezreyna1836
@fernandomartinezreyna1836 5 лет назад
Hey man! Great video, you made me realize that i never actually listened to “Devil” album. I will have to give it a listen. I will always have a memory of watching Chiodos play at warped tour and Craig standing on top of a crowd of people. So epic! You should make a video of Scary kids scaring kids 👍🏽😁
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 5 лет назад
hell yeah thanks for watching!! good idea, i love scary kids :)
@Mabdog3597
@Mabdog3597 4 года назад
@@thecozyrep haven't checked it out either even though I've been a fan since the start. Didn't care for "Illumanado"
@largepoodle6036
@largepoodle6036 4 года назад
pretty cool that you're doin this man, it's definitely untapped.. these bands were definitely a huge part of my life at that time, it was just a vibe lol. minus the band tees and skinny jeans tbh
@percyhutchins5421
@percyhutchins5421 4 года назад
17:50 I was at that reunion show in boston. Was a amazing show. It broke my heart when they started thermacare n it ended up being the only thing u talk about. But it was still a amazing song . Killer video .
@aklimecki3834
@aklimecki3834 2 года назад
CHIODOS are the first band I watched live and I have been chasing that high ever since. They opened warped tour in Denver and nothing to date can compare. Never seen such a big crowd so invested and hyped on the music since.
@nickwancho
@nickwancho 2 года назад
theres no hardcore dancing in the living room is phenomenal. will forever be one of my favorite songs of all time
@michaelhowell2809
@michaelhowell2809 3 года назад
Dam I love 3 am and I would neber skip it hahahajah these videos are perfect if you're a little over 30 yrs old and was watching fuse back in the day.
@Replicaate
@Replicaate 4 года назад
Incoming comment essay so I apologize in advance! First thing, you're about the only channel that talks about that specific time and place in the mid-late 00s - that far too brief period in my life when hopping on the city bus instead of the school bus after class and trucking down to the mall newsstand to get the new issue of AP was the big event of the month. Hearing you analyze and explore the careers of bands like Chiodos and TAI... and guys like Ryan Ross in such a well-researched and informed way instead of dismissing "emo kid shit" is SO refreshing. And I wanna thank you for it. This was a big part of a lot of people's lives and its good seeing it get a serious treatment for once. Second thing, I'd be interested what you have to say about another band I feel were lost to that time/scene in posthardcore/metalcore - Atreyu. I was there when they were at their peak - the 'Lead Sails Paper Anchor' and 'Congregation Of The Damned' albums were big successes, everyone from Chad-tastic dudebros to the skinniest emo kids knew their songs, they were on the Taste Of Chaos 2008 tour with Underoath and Avenged Sevenfold, and seemed so poised to be the next HUGE thing when they went on hiatus seemingly out of the blue. By the time they had a reunion and comback a couple years ago, they seemed outdated and younger bands who were inspired by them (like Ice Nine Kills) were beating them at their own sound, or fellow bands from the scene days had totally eclipsed them in fame (mostly Avenged Sevenfold). afaik they're still going, but nowhere near as relevant or famous as they once were.
@AdamBarkleyMusic
@AdamBarkleyMusic 4 года назад
I'll never not call it "All's well that Bones" again. Great video, bro! subbed :)
@bdavid1789
@bdavid1789 4 года назад
This concept is awesome need more please
@AlexIan8854
@AlexIan8854 3 года назад
I love your videos! Admittedly I never got into 'scene' bands ( i HATED Chiodos and DGD but still love Brand new [despite everything] even at 32) but I love hearing your insights - great passion, it really helps me to understand why people were so into this and related genres (also I hope this comment isn't low key insulting lol)
@brinaaline529
@brinaaline529 3 года назад
My first time crowdsurfing was to chiodos I’m emotional
@thelegendrubyrodd
@thelegendrubyrodd 5 лет назад
Illuminaudio is when Chiodos hit GOAT status. first 2 albums fucking kill too but Illuminaudio is where shit got real. musically its the best work and the mix of the album is great.
@Licardo7
@Licardo7 4 года назад
Ruby Rodd same
@percyhutchins5421
@percyhutchins5421 4 года назад
Illuminaudio as a album is there best. It was the live shows that hurt it. I saw them with Brendan n it was great musically but stage presence lacked n alot of the fans hated on the new singer bad. N then craig rejoins refuses to play any songs off illuminaudio. Me personally I think craig only came back to ultimately break it up. I wish they never took him back .
@dannysamanthaanticks2887
@dannysamanthaanticks2887 2 года назад
Illuminaudio is technically their 5th album. But I agree. It was def their best written album.. BPB was great too. I can listen to devil.. and I have a hard time listening to every song on AWTEL.. I do like a lot of it tho!! But the 2 releases before that, THE BEST WAY TO RUIN YOUR LIFE, and THE HEARTLESS CONTROL EVERYTHING are absolutely terrible. No wonder everybody tries to forget lol
@tittysprinkles7483
@tittysprinkles7483 3 года назад
I don't know how I stumbled upon your channel. But I just watched your Bryan Stars video and enjoyed it. Im gonna binge watch all of your videos. I fucking love Chiodos and D.R.U.G.S. You sir have gained a new subscriber.
@XEMIko79x
@XEMIko79x 4 года назад
You dropped an entire chapter of their career as the chiodos brothers
@mychalherber5894
@mychalherber5894 4 года назад
For some reason the only Chiodos song I knew before watching this was 3AM (off Devil). But you inspired me to listen to more of their stuff, and as a huge Pierce the Veil fan (they’re my favorite band), I’m hearing so many similarities and appreciating what Chiodos contributed to the scene. I discovered your channel through your BryanStars video and love your content! Keep up the great work 👍🏼
@xeno-t
@xeno-t 4 года назад
Craig was in a band with vic and i think mike was in it too?
@mychalherber5894
@mychalherber5894 4 года назад
strawberry caramel yes Isles & Glaciers! Wish they still put out new music
@zachoryfitzgerald8259
@zachoryfitzgerald8259 4 года назад
Great point about Devil sounding like Craig's project mash up. Hit the nail on the head.
@brett5569
@brett5569 3 года назад
Jason hale is super underrated and I also think Bradley bell was a huge component to the band. I also always thought it was an odd choice that they distorted brendans screams. really loving your channel man! Chiodos was one of my favorites back in highschool
@ryanjordan4435
@ryanjordan4435 2 года назад
I love your passion. I feel exactly the same way!! “Lindsey quit lollygagging” meant a lot to me.
@sofapilot3868
@sofapilot3868 3 года назад
I've lost a lot of shit over the years... but I still have my Chiodos "Alls well that ends well" album in the car. It really helps to reflect on how good we all had it.
@Ananke3088
@Ananke3088 5 лет назад
Yes! I miss scene erra! Thanks for the video man
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 5 лет назад
you're welcome!
@warrenlauren
@warrenlauren 3 года назад
Alls well that ends well is one of those albums that I could listen from start to finish and just LOVE IT every single minute
@warrenlauren
@warrenlauren 3 года назад
ALSO any Michigan scene kids remember seeing Craig Owens at MySpace cafe?
@kevinandrewsphoto
@kevinandrewsphoto Год назад
As someone who played guitar in a post hardcore band between 2005-2010 I can tell you “alls well” was very influential amongst a lot of guitarists. But it wasn’t because the guitar parts were intricate. In fact it’s the opposite, pretty much every song revolves around the same chord being used up and down the heck, octaves. Having the backup guitarist doing the same chord but as a third. And then power chords or open D for the chorus or heavier parts. And the Jason Hales guitar tone was very controversial amongst guitarists. Some people thought it sounded really cheap, like a boss distortion pedal with “tone” maxed out and “bass” at 2. But that’s what makes the sound so unique and a lot of guitarists copied it sound. There’s some really creative licks sprinkled in like the lick in the chorus for “All Nereids beware” or the intro of “words best friends”. But it was obvious that Jason put a LOT more effort into the Bone palace album. Using a lot of neo classical scales and modes. I think this was sort of a reaction to people calling his writing “basic” in “alls well”. But it went a little too far in my opinion and lost a lot of what made Chiodos sound like Chiodos. Was very operatic and bombastic. When Chiodos original sound was like listening to your friends band, didn’t take itself too seriously but was endlessly catchy. Jason Hale is in the warped tour guitarist hall of fame in my opinion. Every guitarist knew his name and how to play 3-4 of his songs.
@Icynova
@Icynova 4 года назад
I love this. Thanks for the video.
@Tara-tm2sy
@Tara-tm2sy 4 года назад
Clicked right away. I'm still grieving the loss. Great vid, ty 👏 Unpopular opinion: Illuminaudio is one of my favorite albums of all time; I've listened to it straight through at least 80 times, probably more than I have All's Well and BPB:GC. Was I missing Craig? Absofuckinglutely. But not at all b/c Brandon was lacking something. Brandon's *recorded* voice had a quality to it that brought minor chords in that depth of soul grabbing way and I fell hard for what he was bringing to the table. I listen to his solo shit as Maskarade all the time. With that, the two things I regret most in life are not seeing Fear Before the March of Flames live, (I was strung out at the time), and not seeing Chiodos live with Brandon (that one I can't blame myself for tho, pretty sure they only played 3 shows cuz Brandon's voice). Still, I was thrilled about Craig's return and Thomas Erak, omg - what a fucking cherry on top! So, I was thrilled w/ Devil by using a lens of gratitude for anything called Chiodos/open-mindedness to change, but completely agree with it featuring forced lyrics, lack of cohesion, song structure change for worse, lack of symphonic elements, etc. It totally felt like a hybrid album of Chiodos and D.R.U.G.S. w/ a sprinkle of the Fall of Troy. Can you please do a vid like this on Fear Before? 🙏 P.s. that seven years jump cut 🤣
@Gnarcos
@Gnarcos 4 года назад
I just found your channel like an hour ago, good shit man! I was like in middle school and high school in there era and I love videos like this! Not all try hardy and trying to prove something lmao. Subscribed
@franzferdinand479
@franzferdinand479 4 года назад
Yo, subscriber 39 here on a different account. I'm happy that this channel is finally getting the attention it deserves! Have a merry Christmas or happy holiday dude!
@thecozyrep
@thecozyrep 4 года назад
yoooooo wow thank you so much for the kind words and thanks for sticking around!! you rock! happy holidays to you as well :)
@UnforeseenDOOM
@UnforeseenDOOM 3 года назад
The Undertaker's Thirst For Revenge is Unquenchable. (The Final Battle) nuff said
@karpouzy89
@karpouzy89 4 года назад
I saw Chiodos in Myrtle Beach at the House of Blues I think in ‘06? Their singer wasn’t my favorite but the music and lyrics were solid. I’d love to see you cover how hardcore blew up in the early 2000s with the MySpace era.
@myemodiaries901
@myemodiaries901 2 года назад
Would love another Chiodos video.
@oliversykes2364
@oliversykes2364 4 года назад
Been a fan since the start RIP Chiodos one of the bends bands that ever did it in that scene
@cephasramospaimontm1107
@cephasramospaimontm1107 4 года назад
Your doing a great job bro keep the videos coming man... I didnt think I was gonna get through the whole video but boy I was wrong.. If you are really new to video making I must admit I'm impressed... Did you have to do a few retakes? Thank you once again bud for the video Gotta love Chiodos though ❤
@Outlawed1
@Outlawed1 3 года назад
I miss them. I was brought to this video because I was just thinking what it would be like seeing Chiodos if they had made it and stuck together?! Man I would’ve been so happy
@sethhardy7280
@sethhardy7280 4 года назад
Need a video on The Used bro please
@SalamanderLights
@SalamanderLights 4 года назад
Illuminaudio was amazing at release, but it probably would have been a mainstream breakthrough if Craig were on it. The live "Thermacare" version always made it super fun to see them after the reunion
@Kekktye
@Kekktye Год назад
Three years after seeing this I still can't get over "All's Well That Bones Well"
@mikenormandy9250
@mikenormandy9250 4 года назад
Edit: Isles & Glaciers were AWESOME - too bad all the members had drug problems at the time (some still do) and wasn't Craig in Sounds Of Animals Fighting with the dudes from Rx Bandits and Anthony Green? - Glad someone made this video! They were one of my favorite bands of all time! I even LOVED Illuminaudio with Brandon (too bad they distorted a lot of his screams, apparently, by the time he joined Chiodos, he could no longer scream like he did with YR) so they used the distortion you hear. I have heard Brandon do the songs live and he uses the distortion as well and WAY less on that album. Unfortunately i was NOT a fan of Devil :-( I just could NOT find a song I liked... - Really wish they would've done more things with Thomas Erak (Fall Of Troy) when he joined on Guitar...would've loved to hear him do some vocals parts, etc....
@18FrozenAngels
@18FrozenAngels 4 года назад
Craig did indeed do some work with TSOAF. I think it’s genuinely one of the best musical projects he’s ever done.
@fatmac11c
@fatmac11c Год назад
I can't wait for the sound of animals fighting new album
@wesleytucker2129
@wesleytucker2129 2 года назад
Correction, first album was the heartless control everything 2003 which had a song called vacation to hell that the band hated but if you begged they would play live
@alecdawg11
@alecdawg11 3 года назад
I missed Chiodos at the 2013 Warped Tour. I just totally spaced it and didn't realize they were playing at 2 until around 4. They were one of the main bands I wanted to see that year. I'll never get over that...
@puritydvoyd2978
@puritydvoyd2978 3 года назад
Chiodos is tied with Falling in Reverse as my favorite band. Speaking of, you should do a video on Falling in Reverse. They were one of the biggest bands in the warped scene and are still extremely relevant.
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