Where Does Music Come From? 

Good point!

That's right! As I know, it was some kind of therapy for Scatman John.

But good luck keeping you're dignity if your main attempt to speak with out stuttering is to spontaneously bursting into song

Nothing undignified in spontaneously bursting into song... I would find it rather brave and jovial! :) ...unless you are at a funeral; that's the only occasion I can think of, where it would be inappropriate and undignified.

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I hope I got them right!

Thank you! I love finding connections I'd never known before, they're very satisfying.

@zeabeth you are too easily impressed

I was hoping my curiosity about musical mode names would be satisfied in these two clips. Do you know why the mode names also geographic or ethnic regions in ancient Greece? Which came first? Does it relate to the modes people generally used as the tonic in their compositional styles in the relevant areas?

Thank you -- that's absolutely fascinating, I appreciate you sharing that story!

As for the modes -- that was one of the things I didn't have room to cover. Maybe I'll look into that for a follow-up at some point -- I don't know off the top of my head, I'm afraid.

Armin Halilovic. sociopaths

Frank289100 Nooooo you've got it all wrong...

Frank289100 calm the hell down

Thank you! Glad you like it!

Yes, the evolutionary role of music is certainly a complex topic -- and you're right, it doesn't have to be selected *for*, just not selected *against*, especially if the development of musical ability was a byproduct of language (though that gets into the question of which came first, which is definitely still contentious.)

Steven Pinker emphasises this point several times himself. And I doubt he makes teleological arguments. It's good to not blindly believe what someone in a seeming position of authority tells you (that's fundamental to science) but you also shouldn't misrepresent.

A Capella comes from (I believe) the Latin for ‘of the chapel’, because church music was a cappella.

I think Mister Apple is right. As I know, "A CAPELLA" / "ALLA CAPELLA" has Latin roots, and means in a straight translation, something like "at the chapel". In the 16th century, "A CAPELLA" was a manning requirement for church choirs. And if I got it right, the term has changed its meaning, after the 19th century, to a "contra punctual chorus style"(polyphony), without music instruments (just the singing choir).

Yes, Mister Apple and Patric are correct, Martianus Capella's name is a coincidence; what I don't know is if his name comes from the Classical Latin 'capella' meaning "she-goat" or the medieval Latin "capella" meaning "chapel"; his dates are 5th century, so the former is probably slightly more likely. Or it could be some unknown different derivation, of course.

Dear Alliterative, I agree, that "CAPELLA" can mean a "she-goat", but I think this is not the "original" meaning. Maybe this has something to do with the high priestess, before the biblical change in religious leadership. But it may has to do with the "head" in general. Because "CORNU"(Lat.) "Horn (Ger.) "corne" (Fr.) are meaning "horn" in Englisch. Also think about the expression "CAPRICORN" > "head (with) recurved horns" > "CAPO-RETURNIS-CORNI". I think "CAPELLA" is another word for "oratory" from > "ORATORIUM" (Lat.) "house of prayer" "temple" "TEMPLUM" (Lat.). But I think there is a much deeper link! The word "temple" hangs also together with "ECLESIA", which stands for temple or church too. But if you think further, you can see a link to "school" too.^^ Why? 😵 Please have a look at the words "église" (Fr.) "ECLESIA"(Lat.) "ÉCOLE"(Fr.) "scuola" (Ita.) "Schule (Ger.) "School" (Engl.). Can you see it! 😉 I think these mentioned terms hang all together, because the first schools where monasteries. I think "CAPELLA" is in general more related to the word "CAPO"(Lat. / Ita.) for "head"/"lead(er)".🤩 And think about the "international" understandable words "captain"/"capitaine"/"Kapitän"/Kapitan" etc. ... I think this suggestion makes totally sense, because we learn with our heads and political leaders are sometimes called the "head" or "heads" too. 🤣 Also think about the "name" of the boss of some Italian organizations (capo). So I would translate "CAPELLA" as a "place/house for learning/spelling". > "CAPITO ?" 😉 But there is more. 🤗 Can you see the hidden "spirit" 👻? 🤣 © Patric Hausammann 🖖🏼

@@patrichausammann I wonder if a musical capo is related.

12tone did a video on that on Tom Scott's channel! (Which may be why you made this comment.)

Really? I must have missed that one.

Well, it's not on the 12tone channel, it's on a channel called Tom Scott.

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I've subscribed to both Tom Scott and Alliterative, and I was really suprised to see 12tone to appear on both channels!

Thanks!

That’s the big unknown...

"chicken or the egg" who? i only know "language or music"

Sound.

I put the thumbs down for fun 😆

Why yes, I'm a medievalist, studied Latin & Old English and Old Norse. My wife is a Classicist. :)

I paid attention to your Latin pronunciation that was easy and seasoned. :) Maximas gratias!

Ah, that was just intended to illustrate the geocentric conception of the world. It's true that it's of course much later -- 16th century -- in that short window between the 'discovery' of the Americas and the acceptance of the Copernican model. Here's the link to the image if you want to know more about the map: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bartolomeu_Velho_1568.jpg

Cool, that makes more sense. Like I know that the ancient greeks knew the world was round and they even knew its circumference but the shape of the continents seems far fetched. That makes more sense. It's a fascinating image.

Yes, I imagine they must be related. I suppose the Arabic word must have been borrowed from Greek at some point.

Alliterative, I agree! I think for the mordern Latin languages, it is also very clear to see the link to the Greek, but think about the Russian word for music. It is музыка / му́зыка and sounds to me like "musiké" / "miusica" because and I am pretty sure, that it derrived from Greek too (sorry, I needed to use an "é", because English does not pronounce the "e" like I wanted to show it) . And don't forgett the German word for music, which is "Musik". Doesn't that sound very similar too?😉 Greetings of a member of the "Dun an Duine" 👋

That's a non-sequitur, rather.