could've khaenri'ahns just create that flower to greet twins when they arrived, because they somehow knew that it grows in their homeworld or something? although that wouldn't explain its name - inteyvat
@DawitsLookingforEmilia Welll it could've become the "national" flower so quickly BECAUSE it was tied to the twins, (the FIRST descenders they caught, which they were desperately seeking for.) since we already know the khanriahanwhatchamacalit's almost kind of worship(?)/saw the twins as being able to advance their own nations. It wouldn't make sense however how unfamiliar they seem with the flower...
I think the name was given, because the flower is now able to grow in Teyvat = Inteyvat. Maybe as a shortform for a name Gold gave them when she created them.
I honestly just assumed that Gold (or some other alchemist) brought the Inteyvat flower to Teyvat on accident while using kemia. Khaenri’ah would have then made the flower their national symbol since it’s creation represented breaking the boundaries of the known world and creating never before seen life. So this way, the flower could be native to the traveler’s homeland while still existing in Tayvet without needing someone to have prior knowledge of the traveler’s homeland. It’s also very possible that Kheanri’ah were somehow tracking the siblings or the flowers were native to Tayvet as well as the sibling’s homeland like you suggested. Either way, these flower’s make me very suspicious of Gold. I mean, if anyone were to create a flower from another world it would be her, she was even referred to as “a flower not from this world”. I’f Gold did make the flower and it was not on accident, does that imply she was either tracking the traveler’s somehow or was maybe even familiar with their homeland. (Tbh, I think I might just be reading wayyy to much into this 😅)
weird that in the animated short that Aether puts the flower in Lumines hair yet it's like they dont know where it came from 😭 the lore just falls apart
Traveller keeps saying it's from their homeland... Maybe there are more to it then what meets the eyes..i have faith in storytelling on genshin so I'll stay patient
I always thought that lumine keeps having that flower around in her hair becs aether put it there, it was like a little head cannon of mine and now it might even be true:D
This video reminded me of Albedo SQ when Albedo managed to bloom a flower from another world by observing the Traveler's behavior. That flower is also really mysterious, we don't know how he got the seed in the first place.
You've been noticed by Ashikai in her latest stream lets go man. I hope you stream to when natlan comes out. You don't even need a fancy set up I just want to talk to you in real time man you seem chill and hilarious at the same time.
i think traveller decended to teyvat alone and directly summoned the twin to Khaenri'ah through the leylines reponding to their wishes. Also explains why the twin is not considered a decender.
the sea of such flowers, there are a few possibilities; 1. their homeworld 2. planted when the twins arrived (where exactly is the issue) 3. due to their lifespan, planted quite recently and in a part of khaenriah with access to the sky 4. just a neat visual it could just be a special flower created by the khaenriahns. their apparent unfamiliarity could be the fact that the flower just didnt grow where they came from.
I should point out that the one they originally called "homeland" khaenri'ah was the abyss sybling. In Mondstadt quest, when the abyss mage speaks to them "your homeland" they say. Also, in Khaenri'ah we (the travelers) were asleep the whole time and only woke up during the war when we tried to escape. That may be why the traveler is so unfamiliar with the Inteyvat
It's quite possible that R created the flower in the image of the one from Twin's world, since, at least based on the things we've seen so far, Gold doesn't seem to create <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="61">1:1</a> to copies or creations in general, outside of Albedo maybe (and even he seems to be unstable based on his dialogue in his quest). Though, for specific reason, i think it's less to make them comfortable and more so to test if they can recreate something from a different world, maybe before summoning they wanted to recreate the descender but it wasn't as successful as the flower (especially if pseudo-descender had the same stone-turning properties outside of Khaenri'ah as Inteyvat). Though, it would imply that the plan to summon siblings might have come from the time of Crimson Moon Dynasty and even be the reason for it's fall and creation of Eclipse Dynasty, since the flower is supposed to be a national flower of Khaenri'ah (so at the very least the Eclipse Dynasty)
the universitas magistrorum bit is kinda weird to me, the final sentence especially. lets assume that they're using astronomical terms the same way we do here on earth, this means that both aether and lumine were traveling the cosmos and the gravity pulled them towards teyvat. the problem now lies on the sentence "After a lengthy orbital period, today their paths shall intertwine once more." this poses two scenarios: aether and lumine did travel the universe together and they both fell into the gravity well of teyvat at the same, but if this is the case, the line "today their paths shall intertwine once more"? wont make any sense as this line implies that two heavenly bodies of differing orbit basically rendezvous'd/had contact in orbit (or in space), this line implies that the two bodies are not traveling the cosmos, at least around the gravity well of teyvat, together or at the same time. idk the implications of this but i just found it weird considering we know both aether and lumine traveled the universe together. unless this isnt an astronomical report but an astrological one: fate of two stars was captured by tevyat, after a lengthy orbital period, which means a journey, their paths will intertwine again in the end
its a very interesting quote, in cn it reads pretty much the same: "My Lord, the Deep Secret Academy presents you with the predicted result: the binary stars have long been captured by the earth's gravity... After a long return cycle, their trajectories are about to intersect again." this whole intersect/intertwine again is a complete mystery if this really is about the siblings. The only thing I could possibly come up with is it simply means what it says, and when their paths "intertwine" the sibilings meet/reunite. Just like the most recent animation where by we see the two stars in the sky, very close to one another, and we know for a fact the twins paths will cross again in the very near future. Now this ofc would imply the twins were separated at some point before they came to teyvat, which goes against everything we know given teyvat is the first time the traveler claims they have traveled separately.
lumine prolly didnt travel worlds with a flower on her head until they hit teyvat, but it still doesnt make sense why she doesnt say hint at it being from her home planet in the chasm -_- i like the idea the R replicated them...but that only makes sense if this was around the start of the eclipse dynasty i think ... i cant wait to learn more so this could be less confusing T__T
@@keip4568 how does commenting on a video considered “spam”? i just got on YT and the vid got recommended and i saw “1 min ago” so i commented. but stay salty ig im sure ppl will love u for that
The ‘flower in my hair’ line convinced me that Aether was originally intended to be the protagonist. If Lumine found a random flower in her hair why would she not just take it out why would she continue wearing it without knowing its significance? Lumine being the abyss twin makes more sense as she would intentionally wear the Inteyvat in her hair as a political statement in reference to her support for Khaenriah. Aether does not wear any flowers in his hair however, there is no evidence in his design that he supports the country.
hoyo has stated multiple times that both siblings are canon travelers and that they only use aether in trailers for constancy yall will say anything to invalidate lumine choosers smh
@@youneversawme.5151 lmao I am not trying to invalidate Lumine choosers. I am aware of the official statements, that is why I wrote ‘originally intended’. Character designs can tell a lot about a story. They have clearly gone through quite a bit of development. The interesting thing to me is that they both wear feathers in their hair which are likely from their home planet but only Lumine has flowers which are identified as the inteyvat. It is possible Hoyoverse did not think that far ahead but I kind of doubt it.
my theory is, that the people from kaenriah ar not from teyvat originaly, when the siblings homeworld was destroyed maybee some fled too teyvat and since they are outsiders nowone wanted something too do with them so they founded there city away from the others. and over time this history was forgoten and tayvat would become there home, a few houndred or thousand generations later nowone even knew that any more, first because irminsul changed their history completly and second their history was lost. so it would be no question anymore where the flower came from, it came from the homeland of the twins that was destroyed the first people there just took them as an reminder of there homeland with them, but too much time has gone by and too much history was altered by irminsul so that they forget it. the same is happening in reality also, many technologys we think we found out about are in reality found out a long time ago thousands of years ago, it was just forgotten in time. the same could be aplied here the keanrian`s just forgot about there own history, and the twins are just so long on journey that they thought all the other people from there homeland are dead. or maybee the twins are on there journey because they want too find the missing people from there homeland, this is there mission and the reason why they on there journey in the first place, but space is very very big finding some people you lost is very difficult. that could also explain why the abiss twin is on the side of keanria`hs people. in teyvat`s history it is mentioned that the primordial one created humanity there, but what if he didn`t create them and just bring them there, he destroyed there homeland and captured some too bring them too teyvat, and the desenders from that where keanriahs people. the problem of bringing people there caused the whole abiss thing in the first place because they done something that they shouldn`t and was forbidden by the primordial one, so he turned on those people and tryed too erase them entirely over and over again but they where resiliend and didn`t die out complety. i think this would be fitting for it.
Inteyvat transformation after you leave kaernriah kind of reminds me of the "gifted rose" quest near Aaru village. The seeds are sand/rock roses with a long shelf life and you need to infuse them with the power of dendro, smash them, water them 😅 to make them sprout. The original paradisarah also disapeared from Teyvat. 🤔 Most importantly when I look at lumine's flower I can only see a pentagon. I can't remember where I ever saw pentagons or 5 pointed stars in genshin. The only thing that comes in 5 are the number of artifacts for each character (flower of life, plume of death, sands of eon, goblet of eonothem, circlet of logos). Not sure if this is related. Otherwise... Domain door is a 4 point Salomon knot, hypo arena is an 8, Nahida is a 4 petal flower, triquetra is a 3... Even the flower we help albedo recover is a sort of lotus. Also I've just realized how I was confusing Cecilias with inteyvats (couldn't understand why lumine would trample on them, silly me😂).
Hi! I'm a big fan of your content!! I just wanted to throw this out there for you to maybe give your perspective on. Do you think that maybe Istaroth gave her powers to Venti? Istaroth seemingly disappeared, or just hasn't made an apperance for a long time. Plus, as you've stated in previous videos, Venti has a lot of abilities that don't necessarily line up with the idea of a wind god. So, is it possible, Istaroth gave some of her divine abilities to Barbatos? Like, Venti knows all songs from the past, present, and future, so maybe that was an ability Istaroth gave him.
aw ily Istaroths disappearance is interesting given people only care about her absence. Istaroth is one of 4 shades, yet we only inqure about her disappearance; thinking its out of character and never ask about the other 3 shades, for whom nonappearance is constant. Now this ofc is due to istaroth playing a more active role in teyvats history compared to the other shades, but i do find it funny nonetheless. With regards to venti, theres a plethora of things that link he and Istaroth together in one way or another, but as for whether I would be able to tell if istaroth gave her powers to him, I wouldnt be able to lol.
it could also be that LuTher's twin was the creator of or a contributor to the creation of khaenri'ah. a nation without an archon that was so advanced compared to the rest of teyvat that the heavenly principles saw it as a threat, so it could be that they have brought their otherworldly technology from their world & other worlds they visited to khaenri'ah (including the flowers). which could possibly explain the part where the abyss twin hinted that they have already explored the entirety of teyvat before the MC twin.
more so a creation of Rhinedottir. "if there is a flower that is not from this world rhinedottir would be the one to create it" I mean it's right there
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia So hear me out. What if "arrogation of mankind" refers to Lumine and Rhinedottir is trying to correct that mistake by building a primordial being with a will stronger than Phanes. In order to become a descender strong enough Aether needs to find his vision and saving his sibilng is not a will strong enough it's already been said by the little people in Sumeru. Rhinedottir has programmed into Albedo to collect data on a real descender in order to build her own. Dains line about "worthy of saving her" simply refers to her as a puppet for a higher purpose and he was so disgusted by that and probably in love with Lumine that he chose to go against his own people. But he never told Lumine that to protect her and now she hates him. If they used Descenders to make Gnosis I think Lumine was meant to be one. Instead they used the third descender if we operate from the theory that Susty is 1, Second who came is 2 (sinner) means the third one is Nibelung after he came back from the Abyss. The reason why the dragons lost all their power "the remains" is the spirit of Nibelung The sustainer tried to separate the travellers in order to change fate but things are playing out almost the exact same way. She reappeared in Theyvat as a companion to Aether in the form of Paimon to show that he doesn't need his sibling to feel happiness. Also she was dying from abyssal corruption but had just enough strengh to send them both back. Paimon is constantly suggesting that they just run away together, now more shit is happening with Paimon as we change fate in Theyvat her memories has started to come back and she knows what she is, is why she asks if Aether is ever going to leave her what they will do afterwards what will happen to her. These worries makes no sense unless Paimon knows something about herself that she fears the traveller is going to reject. Her "token" is the traveller and she has no purpose at all in that world without him. There solved it aaand I am out
or, hear me out, what if the Twins refer to Khaenri'ah as their homeland? They stayed quite a while there, and they had a rank and position of Prince and Princess. Note they always say 'homeLAND' not 'home WORLD' meaning that in Teyvat, they considered Khaenri'ah their home.
Alternative viewpoint: EVERY SINGLE flower in Teyvat comes from their homeland, as do almost all the animals, with only a few weird native species that aren't exactly good fits as either plant or animal, and the fungi as exceptions. This is a terraformed world. The whole point is that every plant that was on their home world is likely to show up in Teyvat so why would the so-called "Inteyvat" be any different? Of course it's there too. But there's nothing notable about it's appearance by the time you've seen all the other transplanted flowers. I mean it could have been carnations. They last about 2 weeks before wilting too. But yeah the Inteyvat seems like a solid choice for a traveler because of the symbolism of returning "home". Should we read into it the idea that it's special that it grows in Khaenri'ah where things are not meant to grow? I dunno I bet when we get there we will see mint and sweet flowers too. Perhaps the way the Khemia works is to provide artificial light. At any rate I doubt we'll have to carry a lamp around when we get to Khaenri'ah. The Chasm was underground too and we had flowers growing there. Perhaps best not to worry about it too much. Besides: underground spaces in Teyvat often have skies if they are in a domain. A lot of folks will be disappointed if Khaenri'ah has no sky for a moon to hang in. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="547">9:07</a> stalker Khaenri'ah?
well if it isnt my favorite moon sister denier. you make a good point with regards with the world being terraformed. i do still think its odd however the only place the flower blooms is in an underground nation where natural life was few and far between.
One thing people forget is that traveller doesnt remember much from their life before teyvat, they woke up and both their power and memories sealed So here <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="120">2:00</a> we are sure that lumine doesnt remember anything before waking up in teyvat So it could be that the flower is from their homeland and gold just recreated it to live in teyvat
Another awesome vid! Here's my theory, its possible the Twins are from the same home world as the Primordial One. If they're both telling us their home world was left to ruin. Obviously, the Primordial One was running away for some reason. The Primordial One, terraformed Teyvat. Most likely transplanting biological species from his home world to have something beautiful and familiar. So, the Inteyvat was most likely the flower of the Unified Nation. Then the 2nd Who Came, brought war and flipped some of the continents upside down. Khaenriah was built upon that same area or perhaps they brought the flower down with them to honor their own past now. Thus, both things are true. The flower is both the flower of Khaenriah and from the Twins' home world, because the Primordial One is also from that world and brought the flower with him to have on this new world. Edit: Also, I have to point out, according to the Magistrorm report: not only did Irmin have them looking for them, BUT the keywords that screams out to me, is the path of the two stars and the planet will intertwine ONCE MORE. This might be a reach, but it could imply that the twin stars falling to Teyvat happened once before the time we have been told about. Which would mean they had come during Khaenriah's earliest inception period or perhaps during the Unified Nation period. They then left, only to be brought back at a later date when Khaenriah summoned them back.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Holy hell! I was watching one of Blues Theories. And I got to thinking. What if its not just the Twins are from the same world as the Primordial One. What if the Twins home world CREATED the Primordial One! The Primordial One is the ship's name! Like Air Force One. Hell, their may have been a whole fleet of Primordial ships sent out to find new worlds. It puts all its action into context. Find new world, test the worlds capability for terraforming for humans, awaken the Shades (crew).
Excellent video as always I’ve often wondered that perhaps Khaenriah is not actually native to Teyvat and the reason why the Kingdom embraced the Twins was because of shared origins.
Now I'm imagining one-eyed king Irmin watching RU-vid, and seeing preview for the new characters (the traveler twins). He sees them standing in a field of flowers, so he calls for the best alchemist in the kingdom (Rhinedottir), shows her the screen, and says: "These flowers. I want these flowers in my garden. You can make it happen, right?". More seriously, I think Inteyvat flowers share origins with Teleport Waypoints, which are also very familiar to the Twins. But like common folk of Kaenri'ah, the flowers have a difficult relationship with the laws of physics outside of Kaenri'ah. Or maybe laws of physics inside of Teyvat, if Kaenri'ah is somehow outside of it.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia wuthering waves been going pretty decent. Big boobs, confusing as hell story line and all. Genshin like vibe so that's been working for me aside that my pc is been crashing cuz of being old (indian moment) but yeah looking forward to it. I play on EU server in case you wanna be friends in wuthering waves!
It comes "In-Teyvat" Teyvat that is built on top of the Moonlight Forest. That's why there's a "Border" that Alice is in charge of on Teyvat. "The Moonlight Forest was the only place free from the rule of the Night Mother." I don't wanna go into detail so Imma dip.
Well Hoyo showed us canonically Aether is the traveler and Lumine is the Abyss sibling. Thinking about what Il Dottore said and how Sumeru’s archon quest went, Irminsul tampering or the unknown god’s power may messed with the twins memories, making Lumine think they’re from Khaenri’ah and Aether having amnesia of anything that happened before he awoke in Teyvat
It comes from the planet called inteyvat which is a neibouring planet to teyvat. Inteyvats history goes does for millions of years and teyvat is relatively new planet when it comes down to life. Prior to all the dragon shi teyvat was a planet similar to mars. Shi happened and people were lazy for a name so they just named it teyvat. Alice was a royal mage from inteyvat and then she traveled to teyvat planting this flower in khaeriah. Source: trust me bro
Hmm well the flower was found probably in some random field or maybe it’s the same or similar flower that was in the Launch trailer where Dain was speaking and Both siblings were standing in the field
One idea that popped in my head is the possibility that the inteyvat is actually from the Primordial One's homeland and when they came to this new planet they brought along some familiar plant and animal life. However there isn't a lot of evidence for this besides that weird inconsistency between what Apep told us and Before Sun and Moon. The book says that P.O along with its Shades created animals and plant life but Apep says that the forest turned into a desert after a nail had been thrown down, this was during the war between Abyss juiced Nibelung and the dragons. So either the passage in the book is just Enkanomiya over embellishing or P.O did do all of that but it's more like they brought along stuff from their home to this new place. As for why its only in Khaenriah, maybe it's like the glaze lily? After Liyue flooded the area where they bloomed was destroyed so now you can only find them in a few spots here and there.
Well I don’t think it originated from Khaenriah but was probably recreated by Gold. Inteyvat has “in” as a prefix like how inconceivable is not conceivable so inteyvat could be not from Teyvat. Also makes sense since Khaenriah was also against the order of Teyvat and as you mentioned they were obsessed with descenders so maybe they were obsessed about more things from outside of Teyvat and learned about the inteyvat somehow and the recreated it. Idk but that’s what makes the most logical sense to me right now.
I mean what if the flower itself is abyss-aligned? Using it instead of sunlight, one of the only things that would grow underground, and in other commented worlds.
i think you might be overthinking this personally The siblings have traveled through multiple different worlds, the flower could be from any of them lumine probably picked it due to it's non wilting nature meanwhile, in khaenri'a, the nation that is after beings from beyond, having a flower from beyond as their national flowers kinda makes sense y'know?
Maybe R is from the same world as the travelers. Could help with the flower's existence. It wasn't created for the travelers, it was created because R wanted to see them again.
Because of that line. "Flower that is not of this world." I'm taking that as Alice saying R is not from there. Rather than somehow peering into another world over the course of hundreds or thousands of years, maybe R's inspiration is from their memories or dreams of home. The Hexenzirkel members we heard of or from, so far, talk about Teyvat as something removed from them. Their knowledge of entities beyond Teyvat always felt like first hand information rather than something they heard or saw in some kind of vision. @@DawitsLookingforEmilia
I am gonna go out on a limb and say that the Original flower that the Inteyvat was derived from was from the Planet The Twins come from and that due to Evolutionary Pressures changed appearances when introduced to Teyvat so…
The video made me travel through some thoughts. 1- I have long thought that the twins could be some kind of descendants or new bipartite Sansaras of Phanes, given his androgynous nature, and because Paymon in the ars Goethia is the faithful demon Lucifer (and Pahnes is associated with the demiurge), in addition to the obvious comparisons to the dawn and dusk star ( Hesperus e Phosporus). 2- Observing the issue of Rinedonthir creating a flower that is not of this world, as the Kaenrians knew the twins well, and wanted to capture the stars, and make them feel at home, and thinking In the words of Clothar (Princess of the Abyss), it made me theorize for a moment that there may have been some time travel involving the brothers. Let's think: What if the twins were sent out of the world, and forgot their origins (like in the battle pass cut scene), and all Kaenrians know who the twins are, and that they - by themselves associate with Pahnes - they can have control over the power of the abyss (we already know that Celestia has mechanisms for this). Perhaps Khraun-Arya was the nation where the "descendants" or lineage of the primordial settled.... Anyway....random thoughts...
Lumine says the flower was in her hair since she woke up but she was wearing it during the opening cutscene. This means the twin had to have gotten it from another “world” or that they were already in Teyvat before encountering the Sustainer
What if the home world of the twins is where the roots of Khaenriah are? We know that the people of Khaenriah never had a god, so I am assuming that they are humans who were not created by the Primordial One.
khaenriah was always founded with the intent of never having a god. they rejected them and believed they were native to teyvat. I did always find it odd a group of humans would have a problem with that, given it would mean they also werent from teyvat- unless of course like u said its a diff group of humans
What would be interesting is if the flower was not created. Since not every flower actually does photosynthesis! A few species of plants are completely parasitic, some even parasitise fungi iirc. Would be cool if it was a native flower of the underground realm of khanria
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia would be yet another case of genshin devs doing their research if that were to be the case. What we also don't know is how the nation even was so aware and interested in descenders. What if the underground location originally had traces of other worlds, as if there truly was a rift that caused an intermingling of species from different worlds! Which was the root for the discovery and fascination I cannot wait to explore this lore
@DawitsLookingforEmilia Well ,I am not sure .But ,since there is no sun in kaenriah one logical speculation would be that the flowers can grow with the light of the moon .But, that's just my speculation .I could be wrong !
Teyvat is big about samsara and cycles of the same story repeating itself. The abyss twin always says they "made the same journey" the other did. Could it be possible that traveler!Lumine is a reincarnation, a clone, or even a homunculus version of og Lumine, who passed away? That would explain the flowers being put in her hair before she "woke up." Heck, maybe they are just a successful experiment regardless of the player's choice. Idk, Lumine looks too upset in her side of the story based off the latest animated short. I wouldn't say that's what it looks like when a person whose sibling has gone missing... it looks like a person whose sibling got their life subscription cancelled.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia the defiled statue, all the architecture we've seen so far, it's all upside down so I always assumed it's like underneath sumeru but upside down
Yo dawittt! Saki here with another pointless question!!! So, I’ve noticed that the traveler doesn’t speak Teyvat language, and have Paimon as their guide, doing most of the talking for them. Though, one thing I thought of was, how does Paimon know the travelers language? I mean, I when they first met in the beginning of the game, they were kinda talking to eachother like they knew what eachother was saying…I don’t think I’ve heard anyone speak on this…what do you think?
The voice lines for the traveler suggest that the traveler can indeed speak Teyvats language in present time thanks to Paimon. You pose an interesting question though about how Paimon was able to teach the language. Maybe they used visual drawings to communicate since the traveler was seen drawing in the sand during the opening cutscene?
@@rosehunt9650 that’s an interesting take! But I kind of think otherwise, as the way the traveler and Paimon talk to eachother in voice lines is a lot more than in quests. It’s also been pointed out that Paimon teaches traveler Teyvat language, so she would kind of have to know travelers language as well. Your idea might be the case though, it makes sense
AHAHA HI SALO THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION. tbh I dont think its ever gonna get addressed tho lol just seems like plot convenience more then anything, but it is quite the plot hole lol
They call me aether/Lumine and I'm the only one knows that's coming the fatui are not the real threat to teyvat the abyss order is and most importantly the most powerful alien the alpha abyss still lives.
Only cause Hoyo simplified the idea of the traveler for trailers (following the nonexistent switch version trailer). I'd like to see how they're gonna try to keep the traveler's story the same regardless of gender, or if they're gonna mess up the lumine version at some point somehow.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia it’s more like a question. a question that i want answered positively will there be a theory on what dainsleif’s entire reason and motives are before his quest comes out?
She probably picked up in Kaenri’ah when she met the king of Kaenri’ah and she took one to show she belongs from this nation and showing her love for it ? And that prove that Lumine is the villain and Aether the canon MC because our sibling comes from Kaenri’ah according to what Nahida found into the Irmisul
I cringed so far when playing this part on my stolen whale account (picked Lumine) It makes no sense with her like she doesn't even know of the flowers she puts on everyday! Ugh