Where Eagles Dare: Cadillac CTS-V Coupe vs Audi RS 5 vs BMW

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We parachute Cadillac's new CTS-V Coupe deep into German territory to battle it out with two of Germany's finest performance coupes, the Audi RS 5 and BMW M3.
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@REMIREZZ 10 лет назад

he made amazingly exciting cars unbelievably boring

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

I have driven all three (Cadillac, Mercedes and BMW), when it comes to performance and quality, Cadillac is for me! I am on my 7th. Cadillac. I'm buying a new one soon!

@zzzhuh 10 лет назад

Complaining about the transmission makes it last place? Get the fucking manual version than. Jesus it seems like "If the car doesn't have flappy paddles than it's not good, it's behind, it's old technology." I like manuals better! There is a feeling that makes it feel like YOU are in control. Not some technology robot saying "O K You Are Switching Gears."

@sterl529 10 лет назад

um you do know that f1 racing which is the highest level of racing on earth uses paddle/electronic shifting. just saying

@zzzhuh 10 лет назад

sterling stegall You are correct, but what is your point? F1 car's are in a completely different league than any road car. I stick by my word, A manual gives an enjoyable feeling that you ARE the car, paddles don't have that effect.

@sterl529 10 лет назад

Agreed. Every car I have ever owned is manual. I do believe that paddle shifting if the future. You get the same effect at a cheaper cost

@liljim4645 12 лет назад

CTS-V Coupe is by far my favorite dream car, I saw one at the GM show case in Detroit and I just fell in love with it, truly amazing.

@mattbrattensborg7785 10 лет назад

I'd take the V all day.

@joecliman2183 10 лет назад

CTS-V comes in wagon form and with a manual transmission. What more needs to be said?

@SIMcityplayer2002 10 лет назад

So does the M3 and RS4.

@vernonprice5986 9 лет назад

SIMcityplayer2002 Not in the US they don't. But I think what he was referring to was the fact that the CTS-V outperformed both the other two cars here, but then came in last for one reason - the reviewer didn't like the transmission. So the point is that you can get it with a manual.

@SIMcityplayer2002 9 лет назад

Okay, thanks. In Europe they do and it's hard to find an American website in Europe for some reason.

@smithjoe5179 9 лет назад

Why do you think bmw is now focusing on torque and low end power copying the american stradegy.... because atleast 95% of bmw owners have never tracked a car. In everyday driving you want to sacrafice some overall performance to have some effortless low rpm power. This is what you want if you arent a real racer. Trust me..

@bighands69 9 лет назад

Joe Smith BMW M cars are not that good on the track anyway. The RS5 is a far better track car.

@hlaulis 9 лет назад

Agreed

@Vladmir917 14 лет назад

money is just a factor here mates. i dont know about you guys but i feel goose bumps whenever i her them say " there's a funny little button here that says 'm' " then makes that beautiful V8 engine noise.

@doubletapproductions 10 лет назад

I had a feeling the European would but the Caddie Last!

@harrymc523 9 лет назад

he's Australian...

@bighands69 9 лет назад

Harry Mac Glorified European then.

@harrymc523 9 лет назад

Just like you then...

@georgeabounassar664 7 лет назад

doubletapproductions yeah but motor trend in American if you watch their other videos you see they always pick the American car over the gtr

@TopSpeed232 4 года назад

3:05 can't wait to try that revolutionary 7-speed dual clutch manual transmission.

@collincastleberry3277 11 лет назад

In a race Cadillac cts-v coupe would win! I like all of these cars but Cadillac for me :)

@blackbird1448 Год назад

The CTS-V will blow the other two away no matter the transmission which btw is available in M6 if the auto was too lazy for your liking. It also already out handled the BMW at Nurburgring for a new record. The Cadillac is a beast and should have ranked 1st :)

@JaMeSThEGeNeRaL 10 лет назад

lets see the cadillac is faster, bigger, and less money than both but loses because its transmission is inferior. doesnt matter to me when im driving passed both on the highway looking better and with extra 20 grand in my pocket

@BornToBeFamed 9 лет назад

Maintenance is cheaper to

@CpKreFLeX 8 лет назад

haha on the Highway :D Good joke :D While in Germany i drive my Polo with 90 HP with 120 miles per hour.Well at least , you can dream about it :-*

@nateonfireball 6 лет назад

GM’s auto will completely ruin a great car. It’s really a fun killer. As a fan of GM and great cars, their slush boxes really do ruin an amazing car. No contest compared to the DCT in the other cars.

@BlastDance 13 лет назад

The reviewer is correct to place Cadillac as last. GM, in their very American thinking, did not bother to pay as much attention to the gearbox as the engine when they designed the CTS-V. Also, until about 6 years ago, GM has never heard of "independent suspension", so while the CTS-V's suspension is superb, it lacks the precision of the M3 because it has not been tested and tweaked for 30+ years. Also, for those who are interested, 0-60 time for M3 is 3.7s, which is faster than CTS-V (3.9s)

@franpancho1000 9 лет назад

To be honest Bmw is not all that good it's just all hype. Of course that's my opinion and the Cts v looks way better.

@bighands69 9 лет назад

Eratic Demon BMW are a very good brand but they are over hyped especially the M cars that are not even that good on a track.

@xsnownedx 13 лет назад

By far the best review you guys have ever produced. Have this guy do the rest of your reviews please :)

@NikoBell12 10 лет назад

The RS5 is nice but I prefer the newer one. And the new M3 Lime Rock Edition is something I would pick over the RS5. The CTS V Coupe... WTF? Should've compared a C63 AMG Coupe in its place.

@vernonprice5986 10 лет назад

Uh, the CTS-V kicks the RS5's ass. And the M3. And the C63. In fact the CTS-V would have won this comparison if they had gotten a manual one instead of an automatic, because if you were paying attention to the video you would have noticed that the CTS-V did everything better than both the other cars, but they didn't like the automatic transmission.

@NikoBell12 10 лет назад

Clearly you're a CTS fan. Seriously, get your facts right and stop bullshitting or just shut dafuq up and leave.

@vernonprice5986 10 лет назад

ORLY? Tell me what facts I got wrong. You've never driven a CTS-V, have you? If you had, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The CTS-V runs 11s stock, what does the RS5 run again? I mean you understand that the CTS-V has almost 250 lb-ft more torque than the RS5, right? I've had some putz in an RS5 try to run me, it was fucking pathetic. Those cars are not fast.

@vernonprice5986 10 лет назад

NikoBell12 Right, I'm the blind one here. So tell me how I'm wrong, exactly. This is about you hating the CTS-V, not me hating anything. haven't you been paying attention? Oh and about my horrible typing skills, did I make any grammatical errors or spelling mistakes? Please do point them out to me. If you're going to call me retarded regarding the CTS-V's steering feel, then I can only assume once again that you haven't actually watched this video. Or any other review of the CTS-V. Or the head 2 head against the E63. I'm not even the one saying the CTS-V has the best steering feel. Once again, feel free to watch this video again, but maybe pay attention this time. And if the RS5 is fast, what does that make the CTS-V? Super fast? Monstrously fast? Ridiculously fast? Unbelievably fast? I don't know, you tell me. It's substantially faster than the RS5, so you tell me what you call that. Speaking of pissy, have you looked in a mirror lately? Oh, and as he pointed out in the video, the reason the CTS-V got last place was because of the automatic transmission. I don't like autos, and my CTS-V has a manual. And Iv'e used it to utterly humiliate people in RS5s and M3s, it's hilarious how butthurt they get. And to add insult to injury, mine is a WAGON. I'm guessing you have just absolutely zero clue how much faster the CTS-V is than the M3 and the RS5. Like absolutely no idea at all. Audi and BMW drivers tend to be the most obnoxiously stuck up about their cars (like you, for example) so they're the most fun to destroy. I mean your comments here are evidence of that, you think the RS5 is actually competitive with the CTS-V. Let me know when you come back to reality.

@NikoBell12 10 лет назад

Wow, pathetic. I'm not responding you to you anymore. I got enough laughs for the night.

@matreyia 11 лет назад

"Cadillac doesn't just make great luxury cars... They make Cadillacs♥" they certainly do don't they?

@pontiacGXPfan 10 лет назад

I would NEVER spend the money on the Caddy coupe. It's hideous. Even more so than the SRX.

@pm512 14 лет назад

The mere fact that Cadillac is even mentioned with M3's and RS5's, speaks volumes. Which ever car you prefer, the domestics are FINALLY building contenders, and doing a great job, by the way. Keep up the good work GM and Ford. Now........what the hell is wrong with Chrysler?

@clintkeller951 12 лет назад

Because size-wise, the CTS is really meant to challenge the M5/M6 offerings from BMW. However, Cadillac doesn't have the 3-Series-sized ATS/ATS-V models yet, AND the CTS-V coupe is priced competitively with the M3 at a starting price in the $60k-$70k range. The M6 is priced well above that, and many reviewers use price points as a means for comparing competing models, as buyers looking to choose will obviously look at the cost of the vehicle.

@bimmerroxx 14 лет назад

cant wait to take delivery of my brand new M3 coupe. Only 2 more weeks

@Greendude33 13 лет назад

Max respect to the resurgence of Cadillac and its image, the car of mobsters, businessmen, pimps, superstar athletes, rock and rapstars is back. Hell even the president rolls in a caddy that can stop a .50 cal round at point black range. It doesnt get much more badass than rolling in a Caddy. According to JD Power and Associates Caddy matches or beats the Germans in multiple quality tests and customer satifaction surveys. Give some credit where it's due people.

@rnwnsfla 14 лет назад

he missed one thing about transmission is that lot of perfomance car owner likes manual rather than automatic. Matching manual gear with cts-v is just perfect

@WBHARR1 13 лет назад

I wanna see some actual racing between the three!

@salzero1 13 лет назад

In a separate notice Thursday, GM said it was recalling more than 1,200 Cadillac Escalade EXT, Chevrolet Avalanche and Silverado and GMC Sierra vehicles for 2011 model year. In these vehicles, the rear axle cross pin might fracture or shift out of position. This might cause the rear axle to lock and the driver might lose control of the car.

@76carmel 13 лет назад

@cadrolls I'm with you. Cadillac's 6-speed auto (with paddle shifters), also avail in 6-speed manual; is more designed for fuel efficiency. Well, the CTS-V isn't as such (if you get one please be cozy with your local gas station (EPA 12 city/18 hwy.)). The Audi and BMW's autos are dual-clutch autos. The ones who will drive the RS-5 and M3 will use the paddle shifters more often for driving experience.

@vernonprice5986 11 лет назад

In what? In a CTS-V. Obviously. What did you think we were talking about? He said the M3 was the best because he didn't like the auto transmission in the CTS-V. He ALSO said that the handing and steering was the best of the group in the CTS-V. Are you intentionally ignoring that? And the CTS-V is clearly faster than the other two, they're not in the CTS-V's league.

@thegodfather2402 13 лет назад

Personally, I'm thrilled with the job Audi has done with the RS5. In my opinion and from experience with both companies, Audi produces an all-around better sports car. The main reason being is not only do you get a beautifully designed; luxurious vehicle with serious power, but you can take it through even the worst of weather conditions with a sense of confidence. The M3 may be fun to drive, but not for the everyday driver. My S4 moves through it all. Looking forward to the RS5 in the U.S.

@clintkeller951 12 лет назад

People tend to forget why Motor Trend and similar publications do these tests. Cadillac built the CTS to cut into BMW's monumental lead in the luxury sport sedan segment, with just one model instead of two. They built the CTS as a mid-segment competitor, with a sedan that would compete against the M5 and a coupe that would target the M3. This has everything in the world to do with market. The CTS-V is also faster than a Ferrari California, but they're not meant to compete, so it's irrelevant.

@willylebg 12 лет назад

the CTS V is the most amazing for me... i see BM and Audi all day long in France so i cant see any more deutsch cars :)

@salzero1 13 лет назад

Breaking News! Car and driver released the 10 Best Cars of 2011. This year marks the 3-Series' 20th!!! consecutive!!! 10Best win, a feat unmatched by any other vehicle on the market. The CTS-V also made the list as well. Ya have to admit, 20 Consecutive wins is very very impressive. Ok, I'll let you you guys continue arguing.

@pepemorales9560 12 лет назад

The M3 has been around since 1986 while the CTS V is relatively young as it was introduced in 2004. That's quite a head start for the perennial king of the hill from Bavaria. The Cadillac though has been improving by leaps and bounds. If GM continues its current level commitment to improving the CTS V, I believe it has a good chance to truly be on par with the Europeans in another 5-7 years. Time will tell.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

The Cadillac CTS-V comes standard with premium Italian leather on both sides of the seats, dashboard, and door panels. It is in the top 5 cars when it comes to quality and dependability. The BMW, on the other hand, has the highest fatality rate, per mile driven, of just about any car ever built. When they need replacement parts, they are sometimes more than 4 times more for similar parts on the Cadillac. BMWs come standard with cheap vinyl and cheaper plastic. Cadillac is KING!♥

@salzero1 13 лет назад

It doesn't stop! More!!! --- In a separate notice Thursday, GM said it was recalling more than 1,200 Cadillac Escalade EXT, Chevrolet Avalanche and Silverado and GMC Sierra vehicles for 2011 model year. In these vehicles, the rear axle cross pin might fracture or shift out of position. This might cause the rear axle to lock and the driver might lose control of the car.

@KennyLarson 12 лет назад

Agreed. While automatics and Dual-clutches might be faster in a straight line nowadays, a manual gives you so much more road-feel. It connects you and makes you a part of the vehicle.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

BMW and Porsche sales up, GM talks to unions about restructuring.Deliveries in November were up by 7.3% compared with the same month last year. Sales of the Mini were even better, they rose by almost 9.4%. BMW said it expects to report record earnings this year.GM is looking to cut as many as 12,000 jobs in Europe and employee representatives said the company has agreed to avoid involuntary redundancies or closing any plants.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

Go to your nearest Cadillac dealer and take a CTS-V out for a test drive. If that price is too much, then try the equally good ATS. It comes in an all wheel drive model too.

@Greendude33 13 лет назад

Damn I can't wait for the 3 Series, C Class and A4 fighting Caddy ATS and the S Class fighting XTS, I'm glad to see Cadillac is putting its attention back to the Germans like it did from 1903 to 1950 after that they got to big and soft. Oh and the Rumored Halo car... Either a variant of the Cien or Sixteen.

@vernonprice5986 11 лет назад

Right, except for the part where he said the handling and steering were the best in the group. In fact the only problem he had with the CTS-V - and the only reason it didn't come in first - was the auto transmission. And of course you can get the CTS-V with a Tremec 6-speed manual, which solves that problem. This is an odd comparison because neither the RS5 nor the M3 are in the CTS-V's league. At all. I blow by those cars like they're standing still.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

@cadrolls I'm not siding with any company. It's about remembering that you have to be careful when throwing stones because one may come right back with you. Cadrolls, the difference between me and you is that I am not partial to one side of the story or blinded as you are. In any situation I will listen to the story and give an honest opinion. You are for Cadillac and Cadillac only. I love all cars. American muscle, Italian supercars, European cars and Japanese sportscars. Im a car guy period.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

BMW does have one thing that Cadillac will NEVER have: the HIGHEST fatality rate, per mile driven, of ANY car ever produced anywhere on the face of this earth. Source: The National Insurance Institute, via ABC National News. That's channel 8 here in Connecticut. Don't forget to see the following video: The Most Removed Video On RU-vid --- German Cars. Cadillac doesn't just make great luxury cars... They make Cadillacs♥

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

I am not referring to the past to prove BMWs are inferior. I SOLIDLY point to the present and to the future as well. Cadillac's magnetic suspension was so good that Ferrari, the world's leader in high performance sports cars, chose it over the one used on BMW. ALL the people who have compared Cadillac to the BMW have admitted that Cadillac is the better car. 70% of ALL new Cadillac ATS sales are coming from former German car owners. Cadillac saw a 40% increase in sales from last year.

@djscootersmooth9467 2 года назад

That Cadillac would be my pick. Looks awesome then and looks awesome now.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

According to the Insurance Institute of America, BMW has been in the top 5 year after year after year as having the HIGHEST fatalities, per mile driven, than ANY other car ever built. That was reported on ABC National News. Channel 8 here in Connecticut. In fact, according to Motor Trend, Germany has a 1% higher fatality rate than the United States.

@matreyia 11 лет назад

I like your endless statistics...very impressive. ; ) "They JUST started to compete with them 4 years ago." Well looky here... I'll take 4 yrs over decades! So now tell me...why would cadillac start to compete w them if they are shit cars? See how this is going? "Cadillac's magnetic suspension was so good that Ferrari, the world's leader in high performance sports cars, chose it over the one used on BMW." Well that's empirical proof then ain't it???

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

German cars did get a jump start on American sport luxury cars, true. Cadillac is catching up fast though. 70% of all new ATS sales are from former German car buyers. Cadillac is in the top 5 now for dependability and safety. Cadillac's resale value is now ahead of Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Volkswagon and is equal to BMW now. Things are changing. Cadillac is now WORLD CLASS. Cadillac doesn't just make great luxury cars, you know... They make CADILLACS♥

@clintkeller951 12 лет назад

That's because Corvettes and Econoboxes are not comparable. Price absolutely matters when you're looking at cars of the same or similar class. That's been one of Cadillac's main arguments with the CTS-V against the outgoing M5 - it's faster in a straight line and round the track, plus it's a hell of a lot cheaper. Purists will point out that the CTS-V is smaller than the M5, but bigger than the M3. Hence, the ATS and why the 2014 CTS is going to be much bigger.

@voodoodiecast 12 лет назад

Wow, this video was uploaded during my 17th birthday, yey me.

@BigGee84 11 лет назад

" They have CHEAP plastic and vinyl interiors compared to Cadillac's all leather interiors. " I own a BMW, and it is leagues ahead of any GM car I've been in. Absolutely no comparison. Can you even drive?

@marshknute 13 лет назад

@cadrolls I should mention that I highly respect Cadillac's CTS range: it proves that GM is actually capable of making competitive cars. The fact is, the M3 handles better and is more of a drivers' car (hence its 20 consecutive years on Automobile Magazine's 10-Best list). The end of the video says it all: the M3 "is the most fun to drive, the most focused and the best all-rounder. The benchmark is still the benchmark."

@Flamoi 11 лет назад

Very True, although when something does go wrong in BMWs they are fairly costly to repair if not under warranty.

@bennicool888 11 лет назад

The RS5 is the sportiest and best looking sports car ever, it´s looking so nice! The best car of all 3.

@shawnthegreat4281 10 лет назад

thank you great review this is what I was looking for why can't people make review like this. Normal no test tracks or power slides all through the video and bad music in the background. Just basic review of all three cars and pros and cons of each and done.

@Vampire285 13 лет назад

If there were a coupe M5 , XF-R , E63 AMG and RS6 .. this CTS-V will be the real competitor so the CTS-V here is certainly and definitely the best in all terms because you're comparing it with the lower classes like M3 and RS5

@SandmanHimself 12 лет назад

Keep eyes out for the ATS-V, which will be the answer to the M3. The CTS is a 5 series, regardless of who they compare it to. the CTS-V sedan is the M5 competition, not M3.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration stated that GM failed to meet crash test requirements Resulting in poor occupant protection that do not meet U.S. requirements. GM to recall two million Cadillac CTS and CTS-V sports sedans from 2009-2010 including Cadillac CTS sedan (all-wheel drive type). Under certain circumstances, knee or leg decapitations can occur due to the passenger glove compartment.

@TheGuru477 14 лет назад

The M3 button push made me giggle like a little bitch XD. Good stuff Motortrend.

@master9716 14 лет назад

HOLY FUCK!!!! THE COUPE!!!!! i wasnt expecting it . where have i been

@audiforumblog 13 лет назад

i love BMW, Mercedes and audi BUT i dont understand people saying bmw is more fun to drive. Its wrong cause where i live we have winter with "snow" and if you drive a bmw you are dead! if you lose the grip you are done. Audi is extremely good in the winter, you can drive as fast as you want in the corners(almost) anyway! i drive an audi myself and i see that bmw owners drive like old people when its winter, for example BMW - 100km/h and Audi - 130km/h without a problem. Thats why we love AUDI !

@salzero1 13 лет назад

Hmmm, Looks like the CTS-V may have had a short lived victory. Numbers are out for the new 2012 M5 and they are very impressive. Here is the some of the article - Just a few days after its official launch, TeamSpeed is reporting that the 2012 BMW M5 has just become the fastest sedan around the Nurburgring race track with an impressive time of 7:55. With this new time, the M5 will be placed above models like the Porsche Panamera Turbo (7:56) and the Cadillac CTS-V (7:59).

@honeybearlove65 13 лет назад

okay, the BMW and Audi are both good cars, i'm not going to argue that, the germans put a lot of effort into both, and the same goes for GM with the CTS. For all you people who are starting to hate on the CTS and talking about how it should be the new automated manual instead of the stick shift, that's crap! the CTS-V is a car for men with firm handshakes, also it's the only one with the most crucial thing the other 2 cars are missing.... SWAG!!

@adman240 13 лет назад

The Ultimate driving machine FTW! I am eyeing the CTS V but until I can afford to step into one of those dealerships I'm going to continue to drool over the M :)

@LZKS 13 лет назад

Fanboys like the caddy. The racers like the m3. Normal drivers like RS5 just for that brilliant looking splitters and diffuser in the front and back.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

1- Many have wondered BMW's Unique grill Design.It can be traced back to a small bodyshop located in Bruschsal Germany.Owned by the Ihle Brothers,they produced a small sleek 2 seater roadster which featured the original kidney grille design.The front incorporated a distinct bipartite radiator grille in the shape of a pair of kidneys.It was a unique & bold design that was well ahead of its time.Despite the ground breaking design, it ended up in the junkyard and was never put into mass production.

@bennicool888 11 лет назад

"70% of all new ATS sales are from former German car buyers." Not abnormal, because Cadillac wasn't good before in compare...

@matzklim 12 лет назад

The three of them are beautiful cars, and the engineering is just amazing, how can you be against one of these cars ? they're so complex yet we never think about that.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

Subsequently, Fritz Fiedler who was a seasoned car designer when BMW adopted the unique design language of the kidney grilles that the Ihle brothers originally incorporated into their roadster. He produced a number of prototype variations of the design and within a few months time, this distinct dual kidney grille design was released on the brand new 303 Series in time for the Berlin Motor Show in 1933. The rest is history.//// And this is the true history behind the BMWs kidney grill.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

Whether the car is "local" or an import, doesn't affect the resale value. I wonder why MILLIONS of older Cadillacs are shipped to Germany and especially The Netherlands?

@harireddyalla 12 лет назад

bench mark is always a bench mark, its an complete engineers perfection

@Aelazadne 11 лет назад

What the hell are you talking about? You have obviously never owned a double clutch transmission. They don't "Hunt for gears".... The gear is already selected before the shift is done. The service life of a double clutch is great and the only time you will have issues is if you try to mod the crap out of it. If you want to mod an M3 you buy the manual if you want to leave the engine alone then you buy a double clutch..

@allMTN 12 лет назад

Just test drove one... the steering and suspension is NOT what you think of when you think of Detroit, I'm telling you. It's honestly a really good car, and I've been a Euro guy for a long time.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

Many have wondered BMW's Unique grill Design.It can be traced back to a small bodyshop located in Bruschsal Germany.Owned by the Ihle Brothers,they produced a small sleek 2 seater roadster which featured the original kidney grille design.The front incorporated a distinct bipartite radiator grille in the shape of a pair of kidneys.It was a unique & bold design that was well ahead of its time.Despite the ground breaking design, it ended up in the junkyard and was never put into mass production.

@bulldog111111 14 лет назад

I'm lucky enough to drive a 2011 M3. I do so because I like to drive and the M3 is a drivers car. You really feel like youre one with this car and part of the road. Although the Audi and Caddy are Fine cars, the M3 is really something special. You realize this as soon as you get behind the wheel.

@76carmel 12 лет назад

@Greendude33 Then again, if it out-accelerates a BMW M and the Audi RS-7, why complain about the transmission? You got a point. I just responded to what Angus said, but then again, I've never driven these super luxury coupes. It's a pipe dream to most of us.

@clintkeller951 12 лет назад

How do you blame GM for cheating in a test that they had nothing to do with? They built the CTS to compete with the 5-series until the ATS was ready, and built a coupe to help drive younger sales. I'm not sure how an automaker that was on the brink of bankruptcy a few years ago, and has decided to play the German's game (which, if anything, is a compliment to BMW, Audi, and Mercedes) with their luxury brand, constitutes cheating just because they didn't have a true 3-series competitor to provide

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

Cadillac's obsolescent rates were geared to the American economy, as were all American cars. G.M.'s profit margin was made up by their replacement parts that represented 63%. The same as the German and Japanese cars. G.M. made sure that when a part did need replacing, people could afford it. The Germans and Japanese did not. Cadillacs are in the top 5 now for quality and reliability. Things have changed at G.M. It is a new day. Get a Cadillac and enjoy it!

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

Electronics? My cousin, Milo Taylor Farnsworth invented the television. The radio was an Italian invention. Our Government gave Japan the electronic market to make up for the atomic bomb like they do after all wars. Had that market stayed here, it would have been NO DOUBT far more advanced than it is now. Cadillac remains the world's most technically advanced cars in the world today ------ regardless of price!

@mishikwest 14 лет назад

the awd that changed the face of motorsports in the 80's.

@Buttnut105 12 лет назад

I'd take the RS5. Just makes the most sense for the long, snowy winters of Chicago and seems like it's the best all rounder with the best interior, looks, equipment and performance. I think the M3's getting a little boring and the only advantage it has on the Audi, is it can drift.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

There is NOTHING about the German or Japanese cars that is more advanced than what we have here in the United States. Ferrari chose Cadillac's magnetic suspension over that used on BMW for a reason. It is far more advanced and responds quicker to road changes. None of the German or Japanese cars allow you to reconfigure the gauges that way Cadillac does. ONLY Cadillac gives you PREMIUM Italian leather seating, door panels and dashboards too. Cadillac is world class. Get used to it.

@0mgwtfbbq21 13 лет назад

cant we all agree that the 3 cars are just fucking beautiful and awesome instead of fighting?

@Aure9000 13 лет назад

Personally I'll like the M3 by far. The DCT is out of this planet good, and the F1 inspired 4L V8 is a sleep waiting to be awaken, a full exhaust system, intake system, and head work that engine can push out 130+HP per liter with ease in a N/A form. M3 it's a detune race car dress up with street car luxury weight..... It surpass the CTS-V and RS5 technology with ease. In a straight line the CTS would walk all over the M3 and be faster in most tracks, with that said the CTS-v is in a different

@xVEINYWEDGEx 14 лет назад

@UFCextra Audi is new to the "sports car" game, not considering the older TT's, the R8 and RS5 just came out and look at what theyre being compared too, their interiors are top notch, well designed and perfectly executed. I guess each has a mind to their own, I respect your own opinion, but I didnt think I'd ever hear from someone with negativity towards Audi's interiors.

@Salomondrin 14 лет назад

@brentsrx7 sure....

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

Apparently, you are not aware that it does not matter where the car was produced or sold that is a measure of its resale value. Cadillac has a better resale value then all but the BMW when it comes to German cars. The man testing the cars said that about the gear hunting if you can comprehend the totality of the discourse.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

@dwill8919 I agree, but just because a car has awd doesnt mean it handles better. handling has to do with suspension and breaking for the most part. On the traction side yes, awd is much better as well as a tire with a good foot print.

@TheSchmittable 14 лет назад

@Jutt08 CADILLAC: 556 HP BMW: 414 HP AUDI: 444 HP ...what a fair comparison. and btw, even if the caddillac wins this match it won't be selling well in europe, cause gas it has much more capacity compared to the others...and gas is much more expensive in europe. you pay about 1,50 Euro for one liter in germany which is about 2 USD...that would be nearly 8 USD for one US gallon (I think that's the common unit for gas in the USA, right?) so you see why Germans built their cars in a different way

@GODs_Son777 14 лет назад

My vote: Tie in 1st. place for CTS-V-C and, BMW M3 with, the Audi RS5 in a close 2nd.! I'm a GM. man...but, I LOVED the way, the BMW sound when, the "M button" was pressed...or, that "M button" could be a placebo! Lol..

@TSPVoiceofReason 14 лет назад

If I lived in a place where snow wasn't an issue, this would be the easiest decision. The CTS-V all the way. Way faster than every M and RS vehicle. (Well, RS 8 is the exception but for the price???) and much cheaper. But alas, snow is an issue, so again, easy decision. The Audi. Yes, I know, good snow tires will take care of the snow, and that's true for like 300 or so horses and torque. But doesn't make a big difference for almost 600. Realisticaly, you can't go wrong with any of them. :)

@salzero1 13 лет назад

@shawnspeed3 Hi Shawn, keep in mind that the M3's styling is actually 6 years old. So it's not new at all. The new M3 comes out I believe in 2012. That's why he mentions that it's the oldest of the bunch. I think the Cadi is actually nice. It has the power but it's just missing refinement. Still a bad ass car. The Audi for me is nice as well. Nice design.

@gweggorz 14 лет назад

The Caddy looks like something I stick under the door to keep it from closing.

@salzero1 13 лет назад

2- Subsequently, Fritz Fiedler who was a seasoned car designer when BMW adopted the unique design language of the kidney grilles that the Ihle brothers originally incorporated into their roadster. He produced a number of prototype variations of the design and within a few months time, this distinct dual kidney grille design was released on the brand new 303 Series in time for the Berlin Motor Show in 1933. The rest is history.//// And this is the true history behind the BMWs kidney grill.

@BigGee84 11 лет назад

No one in Europe cares what Cadillac are doing, and certainly not the top German marques, whose biggest competitors are each other by quite a margin. Cadillac is a bit of a joke in Europe. I've never heard anyone say "I'd love to have a Cadillac". "Who copied who? Let me see." Cadillac have improved by trying to be German. The only reason they've survived this long is through blind patriotism and the fact of the matter is that German cars have much, much better than the equivalent from America

@clintkeller951 12 лет назад

You referred to this as "the American game", which you then defined as "cheating", and then called Cadillac a "bully" for building a car that is bigger and more powerful than what the Germans offer for the same price. That's not "cheating", that's underselling the competition. Furthermore, it's not Cadillac's fault that the Germans don't currently offer anything more closely comparable in power, size, and price - nor is it BMW or Audi's fault that this was obviously done to buy time for the ATS.

@cadrolls 11 лет назад

You are OBVIOUSLY not aware of the quality of the new Cadillacs. NOTHING about them are as before G.M.'s restructuring. That is why we Americans are PROUD that Cadillac is building quality cars again. You must be VERY happy since ignorance is bliss! LMBO! :) Whatever floats your boat!

@tnguyen318 13 лет назад

I have never test driven any one of these cars to let you know how well they perform. Neither have I been to the factory plant where they are built. What I can say is that my favorite car out of the group is the BMW.

@PacificStormm 14 лет назад

Everybody, look out, because Cadillac is goin' large with this one. The M3 is a true competitor, but I would never buy into a BMW. As for Audi, the only model that I would ever buy, is the S4. I'm sold on this CTS though. It is my *realistic* dream car, and If I had the money, I'd get one in dark grey with an STS Twin Turbo System... 750hp, what up!

@TheBigBazzy 12 лет назад

I like how they used driver feel and all around performance to decide the winner. Not just a couple meaningless track numbers like usual. All the cars had auto transmissions to be fair.

@kempowarrior 13 лет назад

As much as I like the Cadillac CTS-V but I think it's not fair comparing to the BMW M3 and Audi RS5 because it have 100+ hp advantage over both of the other cars.