Where is Your Settlement Junk Safe? 🎱 Fallout 4 No Mods Shop Class 

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The game told me once that "Dogmeat has found something" only for Dogmeat to grab a weapon off my weaponrack. Yes. Dogmeat... the Dog.

Last time a settler took my unique guns i killed them all of them

The root cellar in Sanctuary is the best place to store all your stuff. The root cellar is a non respawning room with 4 containers you have to go through a load zone to get to. Since you have to go through a load zone, settlers can't go in there and take stuff. The cellar can be found behind the blue house to the left of the big tree.

Hmm, so my main takeaway from this: build a safe room with a switch door to safeguard my safes. Very useful, actually. I decided to kill everyone in my main settlement one day to see if they were synths, and was shocked that they were attacking me with my own legendary weapons. I thought they'd only arm themselves from the workshop, but they are a bunch of thieves.

Great job pronouncing my name! Thanks for all your videos. Glad to be a Patron! Keep 'em coming!

You are a freaking genius at this game dude

I keep my fusion cores with me. But I recommend removing them from the suits if you don't plan on using them

I'm 1230 hours into Fallout and after discovering this channel I vowed to play vanilla and Official DLC on my next playthrough, and I lined it all up to start a fresh vanilla game the day the next Gen update dropped. It's been a blast. Modding the game becomes a focus as opposed to playing the game. Thanks for Schooled Zone man!

Wow i love the radiogram with glitched in radios and safe - what a neat idea!!

This video is EXACTLY what I was looking for. THANK YOU for being the only guy I could find online who wanted to help me keep my unique junk from getting scrapped accidentally. I was so disappointed when I realized that just having my unique skulls or named junk in the world didn’t prevent it from being scrapped.

Your videos have given me a whole new appreciation for settlement building and decoration. That should have earned my sub a long time ago, but better late than never.

5yrs later.....and 7yrs after the game came out, and I just find this channel lol This gives me so many more ideas on what to and not to do. Thank you

If only I would have discovered this channel sooner, been binging all your Fallout 4 education videos. Got me motivated to start building

The magazine rack is perfect because it acts like a storage item where you actually put the magazine in it and then it displays them. You don't actually place them in the rack.

Important safety tip about the pool table: Don't put pool cues on the table. If you have any unarmed settlers nearby and an attack triggers, they will run over and grab the pool cue which disturbs any items on the pool table - regardless of whether the balls and rack (or whatever other items you put on it) have been lift/dropped onto it or workshop mode placed. There is also a big difference between lift/drop placing an item and workshop mode placing it from a code standpoint. If you lift/drop the item, it is a discrete item separate from the surface it is sitting on, so if you select the underlying surface (let's say, to continue the discussion above, a pool table), then all the lift/dropped items will simply fall through it to the ground, since selecting an item breaks the cohesion of its wiremesh. Items that are workshop mode placed connect to the surface they are sitting on and when you select the surface, they go with it. They can still be knocked over or around by other items, settlers, you jumping on the table, etc., but they are much more stable in the long run and I have found they are less likely to drop through a surface on reloading of the area. A caveat - if you workshop mode place an item on a surface, often the item will sink halfway into the surface you are placing it on. I had massive problems with this when I was building my first bar in Sanctuary with balls on the pool table. It would look like a half a ball sitting on the table instead of a full sphere. If this happens, you can look slightly away from the placed item, and click on the surface itself and the item that is sunk into it will slowly rise up and pop to the surface, just like you if you stand on a table, select it, and then cancel the selection. The item will then be workshop placed on the surface and count as a part of it for group selections, moving the surface, moving the entire building, etc. Keep up the great work. I love the channel, and I would love to see the total immersion walkthrough of Vault 42. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Fallout 4 ... the interior design simulator for blood crazed ghoulish psycho apocalypse survivors. Nice

I am shocked and amazed at your work! I don't like dealing with mods and glitches that usually happen, so I am glad to have found your channel!

Read about 150 comments and decided nobody mentioned this. You can actually do a "test" (in 3/New Vegas at least, but 4 is on the same engine) that shows the issue is a load order problem. First, you deliberately leave an item some place you know won't hold it. It has to be an area with a roof though. Let it fall through, do not pick it up. If you are lucky, and paying close attention, you will sometimes find the object on your roof. At some point it reaches the "bottom" of the map. The next time it spawns it essentially falls from the sky. That gives everything else time to load in, and it lands on the roof.

I’ve found the Mailbox’s at Sanctuary to be great stash spots. Never lost an item. NPC’s don’t bother them since it’s assumed that most players will scrap them for metal. 👍🏻

I have a very vivid memory of metal magazine rack dropping all of my magazines on the ground. Maybe it was one super rare instance, but it happened. No complaints about other one, works perfect so far.

I always fully equip my settlers with armor and weapons, and I've never had a settler take a weapon or armor piece from any of my containers. So, that might be a useful tip. I also carry all of my fusion cores on me, so they can't use power armor. :) Of course, that wouldn't work in survival mode.

Deathpaw is such a good name!

new subscriber. loving what i'm seeing so far. I'm huge into mods for this game, however i am getting great ideas from your videos that will actually allow me to cut some mods out so i have space for other mods that i cant quite fit in yet. thanks a bunch

i keep it simple. three by three floor tiles. three floors tall. powered wood door as the only entrance. 1st floor is "living space" for funsies, and a washroom, which, of course, has my first aid kit. 2nd floor is my display floor (has kitchen, too). and 3rd floor is for my PA's and the PA station. surrounded that beast of a building with mostly turrets. it's impenatrable. across the street, i built the bar and mini-mall. one settlement supplies the rest with all needs. got 630 water at Starlight lol. wanted more, but just not enough room in that puddle. got tonnes of mutfruit all neatly in rows at starlight, too. only producing 24 food cuz i just don't have enough settlers there to defend AND crop out! settlers don't come very often. seems to take FOREVER! it's like bethesda set it up so you had to break the rules (like flitching things into place).

this happened to me a long time ago and im glad you covered this

Cheers mate, this entire series has been so helpful! With the settlers stealing your weapons I read elsewhere that they will only take weapons that they have access to ammo for, so as long as there is no ammo stored anywhere in your settlement they won't steal your weapons. I've been storing ammo at Home Plate ever since and haven't had a single weapon taken from storage.

Oh that’s where my guns from the weapon racks must be! I’m going to go check the inventory of my settlers now haha

Deathpaw was an amazing name though!

The pool table probably functions the way it does because they wanted to make sure that pool balls and cues didn't constantly fall through. Wish they had done whatever they did to the other surfaces!

For the theory about smaller objects loading before their "table" or whatever is loaded, I think that's spot on, because you can observe this... just set your fast travel mat looking at a couple of shelves and just travel to that location a few times, and if you're "lucky" you'll see in real time your stuff falling to (or through) the ground before the tables load. I've find that "bookshelves" are notorious for this and tend not to use important items to decorate those.

i have just started watching your videos, and although i am not a great builder, by following what you say i am slowley but surely getting better Thanks for the time you take to explain things to people.

Be careful when placing items on the ground, example being garden gnomes. I placed 5 in a row at Sanctuary on the ground as a visual reminder for a to do list later rather than storing them in my workbench. 2 game days later 4 disappeared. I assume they sank into the ground and weren't stolen which was my initial thought.

I found the perfect solution by my third game: get a settlement, recruit no one, and have the place all to myself. I chose Spectacle Island but I got lonely and so thought, "Who won't take my stuff?" Buddy the Robot won't-actually none of the robots will (except Nick) and so I kept robots with me-lonely no more.

Great vid as always

In a later video can we discuss theories as to how or why some NPCs steal weapons, armor and items from weapon racks and containers. They also will steal power armor but I recently discovered if you remove the fusion core they don't take the power suit.

Settlers take items from containers, including the workshop in response to attacks. They will seek to upgrade their weapons and armour if superior equipment is available. Same as them using Power Armor if you leave the Fusion Core in. I did not know they can take fusion cores from safes, that's both awesome and annoying as I like to have a box of cores next to the PA for logical reasons.

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My biggest issue with the weapons racks is Dogmeat. "Dogmeat found something" and he goes and snatches up a weapon I have on display. I checked him the thief had snatched half my display weapons off racks O_o

Your video's are very cool. They also give me ideas for my own game. Thanks again.

4 years late to the convo. The reason 'dropped' items fall to the floor or through the ground has to deal with render distance & 'cells' for each area. When you walk to an area, the game renders areas infront of you & de-empathize (reduce detail) of areas behind you. If the area the game is rendering is 'over complicated' from complex building (I do it too, but I try not to exceed the limit for this very reason) then the game will take longer to render, & most junk items will render faster then furniture like tables & beds. This is why some settlers will revert to their old clothes & pipe Pistols randomly. The game is trying to calculate the settlement & sometimes settlers will be caught in a 'render limbo' which can reset their load outs. I once made a HUGE scientific workshop 'secure bunker' for all of the Garden Gnomes of Far Harbor you can collect. They would take lead, razorgrain, Abraxo cleaner, condensed fog, fusion cores, & cans of blood (placed in blood trenchers from Nuka World) & alchemicly transmute them into Gold for me. Eventually, each 'junk item' including the Garden Gnomes fell out of the bunker onto the ground below. Most of the items would be completely missing, likely falling under the ground into the white-void. I was unusually proud of my 'Gnome Gold Vault' & seeing my painstaking set-up literally disappear put me off ever placing more then a few junk items, & if I did I would be 2000% ready to see them disappear into hammerspace. Use containers to store your junk. Don't leave them in your workshop as they will be randomly used for repairs (by settlers) or stolen in raider attacks. I never made a settlement that complex with junk items again. Hug your Haunted Garden Gnomes. Don't let them fade into the void of distance render cells.

I like that house Great decoration ;)

Will happily subscribe for content like this!

I built a mansion at Boston Airport and supplied it with a handful of robots. stored all my unique and important items there. I haven't had any problems with robots stealing anything

Thank you for the help! I have started a new play-through, it is modded, but your videos have been very helpful. I am also impressed by your creativity, I have consulted your series for every aspect of settlement building. You have also explained why my original play was so broken, I ABUSED the size glitch. Vault 88 killed it, I had to completely wipe the game to fix my issues!

Only found you're channel today and I'm loving it (so I've subscribed). Only now getting in to fallout 4 seriously, had it when it first came out but never had enough time to use consistently, it ended up being a couple of months between goes and never being able to remember, what was what or what I was doing lol. So I have started again from scratch and some of the guides, hints and tips on your channel I'm finding invaluable thank you, can't wait for more lol just need to put the controller down long enough to be able to watch it 😂😂😂😂. Thanks steve

You should do a video about workshops getting robbed of junk resources and how to defend it from settles and raiders

I have been enjoying your videos on building without mods and I am a subscriber..Thankyou for the effort you've gone to. The resultant production quality speaks for itself... I have been recently using console commands such as modpos and setangle to achieve what I've this failed to achieve with rugs and pillars etc... now my concrete windowed wall's have glazing! Yay! For sometime now I have been devloping the idea of a standard keep or outpost structure that employs the concrete blocks as the ground floors. (usually a 6 X 6 grid with steps leading up to the raised floor) Typically these floor slabs are raised almost as high as they can be without having them reveal their base edges above the actual ground level. Now... these are supposed to be "solid concrete" and yet when my ol'pal dogmeat, whom by the way I've taken to calling Deefer, accompanies me to some of these outposts will find himself sunken into one of these floor slabs up to his shoulers... I have laid rubber matting or tiles onto the floor's top surface like carpet mostly for my own sense of asthetics but I also thought that by adding another element to the floor it might prevent my hound from experiencing that sinking feeling but this has had no apparent effect... Suggestions?

I love your videos. In my main Settlement on my current game (I'm using Sunshine Tidings Co-Op) I actually built it to look like it has a bus loading area for a summer Camp. I even went as far as to put the broke down Buses on it, and use them for shelters for my Settlers. Off the back of the "parking lot" I put the Trailer, which much to my surprise snaps onto the floor piece. I then built around it to put one of the automated concrete doors on it and ran a switch to it. I stocked it with trunks, crates and even a safe so I can store the goods I collect all over the commonwealth.

Ahh, so to keep you goods that you do not want the NPC's to take, that you have in containers, you put them behind a switched door...or in a security closet that you built.

Seven years later, just solved why the red. Thank you.

Settlers cannot take items from home plate. home plate is worth the caps if only to protect items from being stolen by settlers and raiders.

Man, you have like EXACT same voice as anchor from K-DST, GTA San Andreas. I swear it's the same. I salute you

I'm new to Fallout 4 and love your videos, I really appreciate that you take the time to explain how to do the things you do. Most places I search online don't help much and turn into a complain fest about the game, so thank you for being helpful and passing your knowledge along. I have a few questions, 1) do you ever go live on youtube so we can ask questions live? 2) how do you place objects flush on a wall? I have a nuka-cola machine at my Red Rocket settlement and when I try and place it, it won't let me put it flush up against the wall, it has it off the wall just enough to look strange? 3) do you have a link to the video where you made the gun rack with the switch and electric doors? THAT IS AWESOME I'd like to try and make something like that. Thank you sir!

You're the man Skooled Zone, i have been sharing your techniques on the xbox live Clubs. The titles always have "NO MODS" in them and the 1st comment is " Credit goes to the youtuber Skooled Zone for step by step NO MODS videos".

I wish I had seen this video a few months ago! I only just found this channel a couple days ago when I really started getting into settlement building. I built a display case to hold some of my more valuable or unique junk items. After storing all of the items I wanted in there, I closed the door and went about my game for a while. I came back, only to find one item missing: the gilded grasshopper. I have since removed the display case, but sadly, it looks like my grasshopper fell through the world, and is gone forever. This should help with decorating my vault and other settlements as well, though, as I placed a globe on top of the blue file cabinet in my vault, and noticed the globe sitting on the floor below having fallen through both the cabinet and the floor of my class room into the hydroponics room below it.

Thank you for this helpful video!👍

One thing to note about the floor safe: It seems to have a very rare bug where it removes the Legendary effect and name from a gun. For me, it specifically happened with Kellogg's Pistol when placed in a floor safe in the Red Rocket. I only ever found one other post with it happening, if I recall it was also Kellogg's Pistol which lost its legendary effect and name when stored in a floor safe, but theirs was in Sanctuary. So it might be a bug specific to JUST Kellogg's Pistol, or it might be a bug specific to the floor safe, or it might be something that can happen to any legendary in any container, however exceedingly rare. It never happened to me again though, so I can't say for sure what conditions cause it to happen.

Great videos. I never knew I could group grab items

AMAZING VIDEO AS ALWAYS! KEEP UP THE GREAT CONTENT AND IM SURE U WILL SUCCEED IN UR RU-vidR CAREER!

I have this week started doing my own experiments on this subject. I was wondering how good the A.I. was at picking better weapons. As most people know settlers usually start with pipe pistols or something similar. I am going to fill an area with different weapons and see what happens.

Hey Skooled Zone, I love your videos!! Just an idea, how about list videos revolving around settlement creation?

I think the gall of these settlers bothers me the most out of the settlement system. They help themselves to my power armor, cores, favorite shirts. But yet..me moving a toaster I found elsewhere is considered stealing after they take it! 😤 😂 Who are they to be rude to me when they’re the ones invading MY home?🧐 Sole reason outside of Preston that I never did the minutemen stuff after the first playthough. They can rot and I can keep my stuff. 😇

I do know that the pool table is one of the best objects for storing stuff on it. I spent time collecting billiard balls and cue sticks to put on them and have never had any of it fall off and I had hundreds of hours on that playthrough.

I'd have never have though about the settlers taking things, I lost my overseers guardian and actually had to buy the other one, I figured it had just de spawned but I'll have to check around now, thanks :£

Thumbnail... The PHRASING kept reminding me that I have a mind deserving of a thousand bonks.

@7:55 ahhh, that makes sense. cool!

Looks good

I haven't read all the comments, so it might have been mentioned, already. I'd rate the armor mannequins 11/10, because they can store *anything*, not just armor. I store some fusion cores that are near empty in there, in case someone asks for fusion cores (Vault 81, for example), i store undamaged/untarnished items for display at future stores, ammo, mini nukes and missiles - i know they (ammo) weigh nothing, but it cuts the visual clutter when not in personal inventory, weapons i'm not using and saving for future settlers and new settlements, even legendaries i want to keep. By the way, i have several power armors parked (sans fusion cores), and never have i had one borrowed by a settler when storing fusion cores in a mannequin. Nothing has disappeared from them. Perfect storage!

I love your videos man you should do a hangmans alley settlement

With you 100% on the display cases, I had two set up in my coastal cottage build with skulls in them, then wire glitched sparks into them, they lasted a couple of weeks at most before the skulls fell through to the ground, three levels down. I now have display cases that are only holding floating sparking anomalies. :)) They look OK but not as good as they did with the skulls.

Not just Settlers but during a Settlement attack I've had Lucas Sims, the armor vendor, grab a weapon off the plywood displays. I had Good Intentions mounted on the wall of the General's room at The Castle and later found being sold by Lucas... Thankfully it was him and not one of his Caravan Guards... Sneaky.

I didn't know that the settlers could take things out of the chests. That's gonna b a great use for me as I'm in the stage of outfitting my settlers. Thx for that info.

thanks for this great video! now i understand why the unscrappable bar counter at the Red Rocket truck shop kept eating my little breakfast setup :D the tables in front of the window are so far very secure though, even small utensils can stay up on them so i just moved the breakfast stuff and some flower vases there. the grey metal cabinets and containers are also great surfaces for holding stuff in my experience, meanwhile the wooden nightstand glitched away Shaun's special book. kinda sad that it happens tbh :(

In the church in Jamaica planes there is a cooking station, it is connected to your work shop! You can move it if you are very fast. Good luck getting rid of it.

I would of used these ideas rigorously before I went to PC, such fantastic work!

I will say this about the pool table: it can hold objects fairly well, but depending on your platform, there is a varying limit from different processing speeds... On PS4, it’s about 8-10. How do I know this? Multiple tests with billiard balls and cue sticks. 16 balls, 2 cue sticks, and a triangle...eventually would drop them all. Limit it to about 8 balls a stick and a triangle and it won’t fall. Anymore than that and you’ll start losing them. Even more so, it seems that once objects start falling through, they continue to do so regardless of the item total unless you store and put back the table from your inventory

Good work pal

great content, thanks. You said you made a map of the wasteland any link?

I’ve had settlers raid my legendary chest before . My most recent play through I’ve used a ground safe , put it under my bed and i haven’t seemed to lose anything yet . Also fair to mention it is gray garden on top of the overpass . That being said some still get up there. I recommend not having any crafting stations near your main storage . I’ve noticed settlers seem to teleport to these more often than not . They can end up anywhere in the settlement regardless , just my experience. Love the channel man wish I found it my first couple play throughs.

my fix for newly arriving settlers...for starters, when i turn on my beacon...i only leave it on for a couple of minutes...usually only one or two settlers show up, (even though you can hear it on your pipboy for a long while after turning it on), when they arrive, i outfit them right away, farmers usually get road leathers and modded leather armor, (the upgrades get better as the playthrough progresses), and decked out with weapons straight off...defenders get military fatigues and combat armor with heavily modded weapons. not sure if you can assign a suit of power armor but i do know that if they jump in one you can get them out of it by asking. if i can assign armor it will be for my defenders. scrappers get coveralls and miners helmets with fully modded 10 mil pistols...and typically they are happy with that...if they don't dig it well, they can live somewhere else. i basically let preston and that crew have sanctuary...me? i moved into the red rocket across the river...all of my other settlements are set up for the amenities as it were...by the way, when is the contest?

When I was playing I used a mod called Locksmith that helped stopped that issue with settlers and there is a mod that lets you lock stuff in place so it doesn't go flying. I forget the name though. I love your no mod videos though. I am considering a mod free run just for nostalgia sake. I've not played unmodded since it first came out and I played lol. Oh and I've had weapons fall of those racks sadly.

Paul one thing i discovered is that game dev's use extra meshes to hold stuff in place... When you go somewhere and it has stuff on the table that never moves and you do the same thing yourself and objects fall through the table... Well using scrap everything ultimate i discovered that tables for example have a extra invisible mesh udually called general clutter and it's rectangle like a big rug and invisible but with the scrap everything it will outline the mesh allowing to delete it so i think that's the secret really how the game dev's can put something on any furniture and it won't fall through but can be knocked off ....

With the containers if you don't want settlers taking anything use console commands to lock the containers so they won't take anything also I find it best if you made a house that isn't navemash (sorry can't spell) so that the settlers won't go inside, example build a house ontop of Redrocket make stairs that settlers can't use (Don't snap them together) and boom but you still wanna lock all of your containers I found that if you fast travel somewhere and comeback some of the settlers will glitch into your house, but it's worth it, other thing is that the vanilla desk i find a 9/10 at keeping stuff ontop of it because they don't fall through... Anyways thanks for the awesome video, sorry this was a long comment

Jun Long once stole my pile of fusion cores. Assigned him to the pillary for 2 weeks in the middle of my settlement for all the traders and passerby's to see!

Paul if you've still not retrieved your lost items that have annoyingly fallen through the floor you can try the following trick: Pillar glitch a high chair (the ones with long legs which babies sit in) and sink it into the ground so that it just sticks up enough you can select it to sit in it. Once in you will find you are glitched into the ground. Get off and you will be under the world and can see below. Hopefully you can see your lost item like with the Nuka Cooler recipe book in Nuka Galaxy (that book always glitches into the ground bc of the bots and/or turret explosions). You will find you can still build whilst under there and its very useful for Industrial Water Purifier glitching. Peace!

I wonder if complicated items like the gamma gun would be less likely to fall through, because they maybe have a better chance to finish loading after the furniture?

When I first started playing before all the dlc, I put my magazines on the round magazine rack and they all kept falling off. Not sure if it's any better now.

i use a shit ton of mods and still learn a bunch from you

If you want to keep settlers away from your containers, does breaking the nav mesh work? Ie have stairs that go up, and then you need to make a short jump into a floating structure.

8:47 The futur me in 3 years is really grateful for this video and the comments 😅

This was mega super hella tramendously helpful and I send my regards to catmeat for inspiring all of our souls. For it was catmeat that freed the souls of children of Adam. Thank you for all that you had done to prepare this video for us. I subscribed so hard its flippin Jamazing. Ur Jamazing hahaha. Okay bye

Never have settlers take stored objects. But I give my settlers the best I can get, they are your army after all(Except Marcy and Jun Long, I give them crap because they are never grateful and complain no matter how much you do for them.). Keep all fusion cores on me. Also see several comments on magazine racks. I have to wonder if some people are manually placing magazines on these racks, because I’ve never had a single mag drop or move from either rack.

I enjoy your videos thanks for the tips it safe me alot of time n not wasted

Amazing house!

I’ve given my settlers heavily modified laser rifles, and heavily modified plasma rifles. One of each per settler. ..now I have to go around and check them all for my unique weapons, and armours.

I used tons of mods on PC, to augment the game and fix glitches. But the performance was poor and ultimately destroyed my progress completely. Gonna do this replay on my xbox, completely un-modded... I feel the withdrawal already :) These videos are absolutely gold, so thanks a lot for making and posting them. Cheers!

This video speaks to the reasons(dropped,stolen and dispersed items) I don't bring my settlements all the way back from war-time,and why I don't experiment with builds. I made a fairly immersive e.r. room in Sanctuary only to find it had been raided and scattered. Frustrating because it took forever to make. Also,I found y and x axis rotation doesn't work if you changed your controller map,making placement pretty much as if you're wearing mittens doing it.

lol - I get tickled pink with how much you actually sound like one of those handymen from a 90s "DIY Home Carpentry" TV Show (you know - the trope that Tool Time from Home Improvement caricatured)

I've done my own experiment with display cases and here's what I found. Most of the problem with the display cases I've found has been when I walk up to my settlement from a distance. It seems to have a problem spawning properly if it is trying to materialize in front of you as you walk up to it. If I only ever fast travel into my settlement, I almost never have an issue with the display cases. I have only ever done this experiment at my player home which is at a settlement with NO occupants. No settlers, followers, or pets. I just make sure I never go walking around the general area of my settlement and only fast travel in to it. In this context, I would give the display cases a 9 out of 10. They still aren't perfect.