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Where Mercedes went too far with its 2024 F1 car 

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Twelve months ago, Mercedes abandoned its Formula 1 car concept with a major upgrade package introduced at the Monaco Grand Prix.
Out went the infamous zero-sidepods in favour of a more conventional approach. Yet one year on, it’s still struggling. That’s because in fixing its old problems, it has created some new ones that need to be tackled.
That’s why not only is it not close to winning races, but it’s also being thrashed by one of its customer teams.
Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff calls McLaren’s turnaround over the past year - using the same engine - “a fantastic recovery story”, transforming it from also-ran to podium regular and grand prix winner.
So what of Wolff’s team’s rather less meteoric recovery story? And if McLaren has turned things around so spectacularly, why hasn’t Mercedes?
00:00 An underwhelming 12 months
02:25 Upgrade progress
04:42 Slow corner struggles
05:56 No "zig-zagging"
06:56 Onward to 2026
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@optimusprime028
@optimusprime028 2 месяца назад
Mclaren and Merc's situation reminds me of RB & Renault days when RB used to beat Renault with their engine. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂
@sarifsamudra9970
@sarifsamudra9970 2 месяца назад
even the renault enggine in RedBull is worse compare to main team
@leoarevalo6786
@leoarevalo6786 2 месяца назад
Mclaren was really good with the renault engine and it seemed for reliable than the works team
@pooyakhalili406
@pooyakhalili406 2 месяца назад
Mercedes isn't miles off the pace, and it's not a team like Renault. It is a step behind the front runners, but trying to get back to the front isn't a really long shot
@baronvandedem3997
@baronvandedem3997 2 месяца назад
That didn't age well for Renault.
@sarifsamudra9970
@sarifsamudra9970 2 месяца назад
@@baronvandedem3997 renault which renaulth oh ah you mean alphine who now create tractor team in bottom tear after civil war
@neilpateldpt
@neilpateldpt 2 месяца назад
It’s crazy to think about it, but if Merc ditched the zero pod last year and created this W15 concept last year instead, they could’ve possibly been more competitive and fighting for a victory… am I missing something on that?
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 2 месяца назад
You're not missing anything, they thought the W13 had potential so they tweaked it in to the W14 instead of changing course. TBH I think the W13 did have potential and dismissing Elliot was totally wrong. The unique W13 has still been Mercedes' only race winning car of this era of regulations.
@FA5FLIP
@FA5FLIP 2 месяца назад
I beleive Max put it best: "if my mom had balls she'd be my dad"
@sauronstillgood6804
@sauronstillgood6804 2 месяца назад
​@@FA5FLIPfr💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 2 месяца назад
You are 100% right. Unfortunately that Interlagos race in 2022 made them think they should continue with that model.
@sergioferrero46
@sergioferrero46 2 месяца назад
Beating the RB19??? Good luck with that
@sam-nariman6236
@sam-nariman6236 2 месяца назад
Mercedes is simply 1 year behind Red Bull in development, Ferrari and McLaren are around 6 months behind. Just go and compare Mercedes W15 pace with Red Bull RB19, in some tracks it's even faster.
@RhysHill-ur8lq
@RhysHill-ur8lq 2 месяца назад
Based
@The_Curious_Cat
@The_Curious_Cat 2 месяца назад
Mercedes is 2 years behind actually. RB has been refining their concept since 2022. Mclaren since 2023 and Ferrari since mid 2023. So Mercedes is two full years behind RB, one year behind McLaren and around 6 months behind Ferrari. And between all of them the thing that sets them apart is tires. On pace they are not that far off each other. The problem is how they treat the tires on the beginning of the lap for qualifying (how fast they are in the window and keep them there, plus how well they preserve the tires during a fast lap). And also how they treat the tires on long runs. Mercedes loses a lot of pace mostly because they slide too much, which destroys the tires on the long run. Which makes them have to be conservative on the beginning of the stints. McLaren and Ferrari are better than Mercedes on this and RB is track dependant as we can see lately, they are stuggling with front grip because they need to balance the car to have overall tire life, so they have to lose something to maintain a certain pace on tracks they are not so good.
@stevenst6337
@stevenst6337 2 месяца назад
McLaren and Ferarri are literally within a tenth of a second on some tracks and will be even faster then Redbull on other tracks. Miami, Imola, and Monaco Redbull wasn’t fastest in any of them.
@sonicslv6132
@sonicslv6132 2 месяца назад
I think many people didn't realize that RB19, the so called one of the most dominating car in F1 will fighting for 3rd to 5th this season with Mercedes and Aston Martin under Max hand. Perez will definitely out of contention. Of course RB also make progress with RB20, but it's actually pretty amazing that many teams has managed to gain so much in just 1 year without any significant technical regulation change.
@sam-nariman6236
@sam-nariman6236 2 месяца назад
@@sonicslv6132 You're right. apparently they don't know. Max's Bahrain 2023 pole lap was good for 9th in 2024. I bet the guy who talks about tyres has not seen a single flying lap comparison between two years.
@diogocmx
@diogocmx 2 месяца назад
The real problem is the cost cap. Mercedes can't just dump money into car development like they used to back in the winning days.
@Sevastous
@Sevastous 2 месяца назад
they did make progress. But Ferrari Mclaren and rb revelopment war was too fast for them to close up. especially RB and Mclaren being earlier to change into sidepod undercut concept which Mclaren fixed later than RB
@jadhamizan
@jadhamizan 2 месяца назад
Ah, the customary monthly "Mercedes didn't get the new regulations right" video. These are becoming a meme at this point.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 месяца назад
Yes, I'm having a strange feeling I saw this video before... and more than once. 😄
@dopey_duck_944
@dopey_duck_944 2 месяца назад
I genuinely hope that mercedes don't manage to catch up. Not because I dislike them (I do but thats irrelevant) but because it's so funny to see these videos, and to watch Wolff's prolonged nervous breakdown
@3103frank
@3103frank 2 месяца назад
Because it’s true…??
@MissRiessfeld
@MissRiessfeld 2 месяца назад
5:29 it was Allison who claimed it not Wolff
@deathfromabove123
@deathfromabove123 2 месяца назад
Please do a video on Martin/Marquez/Ducati now that Martin has signed for Aprilia and Marquez is presumably about to be announced for Ducati!
@bigboicrossing
@bigboicrossing 2 месяца назад
0:57 not to be a nitpick but the image to the right that is labeled as the "new" sidepod is the old one while the "old sidepod is the new one. Keep up the good content!
@bigboicrossing
@bigboicrossing 2 месяца назад
@@SavvyMon4 its something to fill the void between races, as for better f1 content i usually go to P1 podcast or RPM as I quite like them
@CamGG__68
@CamGG__68 2 месяца назад
@@SavvyMon4 why are you here then.
@Windrunner11
@Windrunner11 2 месяца назад
@@SavvyMon4 every comment helps them :)
@WeAreTheRace
@WeAreTheRace 2 месяца назад
Oops, yep. Good spot - we'll get onto that and fix. Thanks for the heads up.
@chriscampbell1309
@chriscampbell1309 2 месяца назад
Merc chassis limitations were masked by the engine for a few years. Not a new problem they gave but one they never faced into
@lucascarpelli6954
@lucascarpelli6954 2 месяца назад
yeah w11 had really shit aerodynamics. Just look at the Spa footage, so awfull
@Alumnikiid
@Alumnikiid 2 месяца назад
The W11 was known for its aero not engine power. That same engine was in the Williams who finished last in 2020
@mineralwater6736
@mineralwater6736 2 месяца назад
@@lucascarpelli6954 you are joking right?? the W11 is the grippiest car ever built and the fastest F1 car ever.
@arjunpatel5443
@arjunpatel5443 2 месяца назад
@@lucascarpelli6954can’t tell if this is satire or not? W11 was insane
@edusszfx
@edusszfx 2 месяца назад
This is the kind of video I appreciate from this channel! We can all do without all the gossip and dumb rumors ones.
@MuhammadImHardBruceLee
@MuhammadImHardBruceLee 2 месяца назад
MB fans 2023: James Allison will save us!!! MB fans 2024: 2026 will save us!!!
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 2 месяца назад
Thats because they lorded James allison as a rival to Newey. When in actuallity, the projects he was lead on were the 09-13 renault, the 14-16 Ferrari and he basically slapped some new wings on a mercedes for 2019.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 2 месяца назад
@blackness. When did i say Allison was a bad desighner? I just said he isnt on the same level as Newey. The only truly succesfull cars of his are the 19-21 mercs, and they were already a developed concept he inherited, and just had to modifiy for the 2019 rule set. Almost every car he designs is a P3-p5 constructors car.
@johnakkman9993
@johnakkman9993 2 месяца назад
it's not a mercedes-benz you dts drone. The mercedes F1 team is still pure-blood UK hence they never brand it as a mercedes-benz petronas F1 team but mercedes-AMG petronas F1 team since mercedes-amg (specifically AMG) is the high performance subsid that works independently from the mercedes-benz AG group. Also everyone including the most diehard hammster fans realise mercedes will have a lot of difficulty climbing up since they are 1,5 years behind due to the no side pods design philosophy.
@tyler_bt3326
@tyler_bt3326 2 месяца назад
MB fans in 2026: 2030 will be our comeback!
@johnakkman9993
@johnakkman9993 2 месяца назад
@@dylanburston7453 You talk a lot but say nothing. What level would that be? Glossing over the fact he was aerodynamicist during the dominance of schumacher with ferrari? Talking about inherited developments, conveniently leaving out the fact newey was also with lotus in '82 which made him understand ground effect better than the other teams? Oh well. Must have slipped your mind
@Majigitajog
@Majigitajog 2 месяца назад
The bots with ass are the winners in the comment section. Kinda how I feel about the race in 2024
@dellonia
@dellonia 2 месяца назад
terminator got it wrong. skynet is not going to kill is with liquid metal robots, but booty bot
@Emarq31
@Emarq31 2 месяца назад
Why are the average performance chart percentages? And why do the increments increase as performance decreases?
@quadrantalerror1121
@quadrantalerror1121 2 месяца назад
At least this year they ain't compromised by the mechanical platform like 2023. They are only a few tenths off the pace of the McLaren's, Ferraris, and Max. I do expect them to get in that fight especially with the many upgrades they bring, hopefully further spicing up the already spicy fight at the front would be great to see Lewis and George fighting podiums and wins again!
@pooyakhalili406
@pooyakhalili406 2 месяца назад
I have hope, too, but time will tell also the cost cap is limiting their development 😔
@44fasterthanyou
@44fasterthanyou 2 месяца назад
😆Fight with the mighty redbull?
@wi0.24se
@wi0.24se 2 месяца назад
@@44fasterthanyou that mighty redbull is very much beatable. Look at past 3 races, 2nd in miami, nearly lost in imola, p6 in monaco.
@quadrantalerror1121
@quadrantalerror1121 2 месяца назад
@@44fasterthanyouyeah mate, both mercs overtook checo in it and they were fighting and outqualifed max in Monaco
@quadrantalerror1121
@quadrantalerror1121 2 месяца назад
@@pooyakhalili406they will get the there, development this year is quite important for 2025
@drippykermit8984
@drippykermit8984 2 месяца назад
I reckon they'll be good in Barcelona, they always go well there.
@Andrewoval
@Andrewoval 2 месяца назад
W15 is the competitor to the rb19, not the rb20. Mercedes needs to think ahead on this one. Hell the rb20 takes cues from the w14 cannons. I don’t think the “no side pods” concept was wrong considering the w13 was faster when Antonelli test drove it awhile back. Something is off during race weekends or Mercedes is missing a vital component.
@rabidlenny7221
@rabidlenny7221 2 месяца назад
It’s always so strange to me that the only team that’s considered to have a birthright to be fighting for wins and championships is Mercedes. They don’t get viewpoint of ‘yeah they’re just not that good’
@nathanstretch
@nathanstretch 2 месяца назад
Ferrari and Red Bull were talked about the exact same way during the Mercedes dominance. I think it's just about the most recent dominant team(s) before the current one.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 2 месяца назад
They don't though? BAR has consistently been a midfield team. So being in the midfield for BAR is not unusual!
@The_Curious_Cat
@The_Curious_Cat 2 месяца назад
It's always strange how fans quickly forget there were several videos like this about Ferrari, RB and McLaren back when Mercedes was dominating.
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 2 месяца назад
Not been watching very long then have you. It's always the same, every single time.
@exchangedspider
@exchangedspider 2 месяца назад
Merc being ahead is nothing but PR by toto, after losing lewis they had to resort to such things, as its impossible to know where others are, we have not heard a single thing about ferrari, RB might struggle initially. So this Merc ahead in 2026 PU is just plain nonsense, coming from that camp.
@lennychandrakar
@lennychandrakar 2 месяца назад
Good Video. But Pls Use DE-esser in your vocal chain. The sibilance is too much in this ViD.
@VinayakPande53
@VinayakPande53 2 месяца назад
Clearly there is a big difference between blank cheque racing and having to use a fixed budget well.
@michaelpfister1283
@michaelpfister1283 2 месяца назад
This reminds me a lot of where we were in 2019, only with the players flipped around. And somehow Ferrari is never quite there... I would love to see 2026 with RB, Ferrari, Merc, McClaren and maybe others all fighting for the top, all within striking distance, and all with wins and podiums. And the whole thing coming down to the final race or two. Would be epic.
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 2 месяца назад
IE- they spent so much time trying to figure out out the zero side pods , that not only did they fall behind in R&D but by the time they got to the bathtub design the other teams had 3 years on them of advancement making them look like a mid team ( also they can’t spend 400 million plus a year at it )
@aprilgeneric8027
@aprilgeneric8027 2 месяца назад
0:59 same intake issue the F-15 and F-18 had and was changed with a detached leading edge and a bit more exterior leading edge coalescing more air into the central duct thus reducing drag and cavitation....but that's for a turbine engine, so.... same problem will exist at the higher speeds with no viable solution with out a turbine to cause collection resistance.
@adamjones7701
@adamjones7701 2 месяца назад
Still think we should’ve gone towards upgrading the suspension and suspended floor first before adding side pods…
@StruggleGaming
@StruggleGaming 2 месяца назад
Damn lewis really picked the perfect time to jump ship.
@Shea-austin
@Shea-austin 2 месяца назад
Actually no, the W15 isn’t a bad car when they’re 2 years behind development.
@RaijinKaze
@RaijinKaze 2 месяца назад
Basically their bran drain at their factory meant that they lost a lot of experience in designing a car. They now have to scrap back every bit of performance and pace before the next change in regulations which isnt looking to happen any time soon.
@gianantoniomedail6819
@gianantoniomedail6819 2 месяца назад
2026
@dhavalnandanwar6461
@dhavalnandanwar6461 2 месяца назад
well its not too bad.. if we see that redbull, mclaren and Ferarri are on the third generation of thier concepts and mercedes have a third concept change and this is the first of the new concept.. next year i think theyll be hunt for p5 maybe.. because their is definetely Championship fight between top three
@xXLUMPYXx
@xXLUMPYXx 2 месяца назад
My family and I theme our entire weekend around the food and entertainment of the nation hosting the race. I'm excited to eat poutine and wear a parka.... lol and yes I am Canadian!
@JaydonTobler
@JaydonTobler 2 месяца назад
This was always going to be the issue with changing concepts; it’s the classic “9 women can’t have a baby in a month” problem. It’s clear that McLaren’s jump last year was an anomaly. And I still think they only made that step after seeing Perez’s floor in Monaco.
@Amm17ar
@Amm17ar 2 месяца назад
They simply do not understand the car. Theres no correlation between their figures of data. The team was clearly very unprepared for the transition to ground effect cars, and the personnel they have clearly cant mend that gap. There are definitely valid reasons for all this happening, but its not okay. I think they've accepted they're not going to fight for anything till the new regs. With that in mind, they absolutely need to do everything possible to bring in all the right people to make sure 2026 is competitive. I think that's the deadline. Changes will need to be made if they cant build a competitive, race winning car by then.
@HEXlCAN
@HEXlCAN 2 месяца назад
Jeee how many video's you can make about Mercedes?
@lukealadeen7836
@lukealadeen7836 2 месяца назад
It's the best team
@gamefan56
@gamefan56 2 месяца назад
@@lukealadeen7836 Lmao
@CHEGTO
@CHEGTO 2 месяца назад
I know it’s controversial but i absolutely loved the way the W13 looked and truly hoped that they would have pulled it together early enough to fight for the championship. Constructors at least
@pooyakhalili406
@pooyakhalili406 2 месяца назад
I hope they can claw their way back to the front. The early signs are slightly encouraging
@ryanknapp4964
@ryanknapp4964 2 месяца назад
Why does it seem like the Race gives Merc more technical coverage than all the other teams combined?🤔
@user-iu2om5mm6y
@user-iu2om5mm6y 2 месяца назад
Because Mercedes car development is the most interesting of them all. They always try something new or interesting, whether it works or not is a different story.
@justincharles6585
@justincharles6585 2 месяца назад
What yall seem to forget is that the other teams have made advances, Mercedes can't close that gap. They gotta wait for new regulations
@Ouchproduction
@Ouchproduction 2 месяца назад
Question from a pretty new F1 viewer. Are the results of a wind tunnel test on a 50 or 60% scale model actually comparable to what happens on the 100% car?
@encoreartz1028
@encoreartz1028 2 месяца назад
Atleast they got podium in some races in zeropods
@johnh9200
@johnh9200 2 месяца назад
Look at the two cars in thumbnail and in particular the front wing. They persevered withe first one and it was clearly causing the porpoising which delivered their worst season ever. Compare it with Ferrari and Red Bull. They lost too much time to catch up on the development of the other teams. Im no engineer and that stands out for me as the biggest error for Mercedes In this ground effect period.
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 2 месяца назад
Funny how the infamous W13 is somehow the best car of the three so far with one win at its belt.
@KonstantinosDoulias
@KonstantinosDoulias 2 месяца назад
it's actually the worst car, but it just had better performance compared to the other teams.
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 2 месяца назад
@@KonstantinosDoulias Well duh, RB19 is slower than some cars in certain tracks this year, would you claim RB19 to be a worse car? Obviously not. Everything is relative and comparing absolute pace without context is just braindead.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 2 месяца назад
Yep! Also the coolest looking too!
@Alumnikiid
@Alumnikiid 2 месяца назад
It’s the best relative to the competition. The W15 would destroy the W13 on any track
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 2 месяца назад
@@Alumnikiid Another brain dead unable to comprehend how to conduct proper comparison
@olit13
@olit13 2 месяца назад
It’s so odd , but looking at the highlights of the past years . the car for 2022 (No Side Pod) was not so bad looking at this current variation of the car. I think they should go back to it . I believe Mercedes got nervous and impatient and scrapped the idea, but Allison was on to something
@jamesthesilver
@jamesthesilver 2 месяца назад
Thank god you dropped the name wheel knowledge, so cringe. But NGL I absolutely love the main channel, you guys are awesome 👍
@battlionyoutube6306
@battlionyoutube6306 2 месяца назад
We really should stop putting so much attention on this average midfield team tbh.
@marcpaola1371
@marcpaola1371 2 месяца назад
Merc is nothing without Aldo Coasta. He designed the winning merc from 2014-2020!
@Shwnm1490
@Shwnm1490 2 месяца назад
Can somebody explain why Aston Martin doesn't seem to be able to e competitive. I would like to think that 2025 will be a very good year since Ferrari, Mclaren and Mercedes will have good understanding of this set of regulations, I would like Aston to be part of that fight.
@311superfly
@311superfly 2 месяца назад
New front suspension angles resembles old BMW strut e39?
@MsZeeZed
@MsZeeZed 2 месяца назад
The 2026 Mercedes engine is better, that’s excellent news for McLaren 😹
@SooDoNimm
@SooDoNimm 2 месяца назад
I won’t lie - I was expecting a longer video about Ocon leaving Alpine ☹️
@Hybrid_67
@Hybrid_67 2 месяца назад
I mean to be honest there isn't much to say. He doesn't do well with teammates. Looking back I think in the last 5 season he has an equal amount of teammate collisions to seasons participated in.
@marty197666
@marty197666 2 месяца назад
It seems they made a massive mistake trying to recreate that y vortex that I think they were chasing with the front wing. Finally they’ve abandoned this, so maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️
@sharoanthomas9809
@sharoanthomas9809 2 месяца назад
2026 Ferrari will have the strongest engine because the turbo engine layout is used and refined for many years.
@andrewfayi9448
@andrewfayi9448 2 месяца назад
I feel like I’ve seen videos like this before. All Mercedes need is a manager like me! I have proven it countless times on F1 Manager
@AGB_HDV
@AGB_HDV 2 месяца назад
Mere mortals know the answers to these questions; but we can't support the team - balance, is keeping things on a level to lift this kart... Gradually.
@Ticklestein
@Ticklestein 2 месяца назад
Why active aero, if active suspension is all they need.
@timquerengesser1561
@timquerengesser1561 2 месяца назад
The zero sidepods were cool. Fight me.
@abedfo88
@abedfo88 2 месяца назад
they should have stuck with it imho.
@puertoricanvtec
@puertoricanvtec 2 месяца назад
I really hope that Mercs get it together for next year. Ferrari looks like they will be a contender next year car wise, ss does McLaren. Red Bull will still be at the top. So with that be said,I would love to see not just the constructors championship, but which pair of drivers will the best season next year. If alll cars are within a tenth or 2 from each other, what order would you put the pair of drivers( against each other and the field)? My order would be Charles/Lewis Oscar/Lando Max/Checo Russell/Kimi Not that I think that’s how the standings will play out, but as far as how they fair against each other(meaning one driver p1 other p10 scenario, not competitive against each other or the field) Then as a duo against the field(drivers finishing p1-p2, obviously competitive towards each other and bested the field). Max will most likely kill Checo, along with Checo’s bad performances would bring them down as a duo also. Where as least say Lewis and Charles, if not fighting for wins then 2-3rd, obviously competition towards each other and could beat the field. Same could be said for Oscar and Lando. Russell and Kimi I feel even if Mercs get back to form, would be last as a duo. I don’t see Russell changing his ways, will care more about beating his teammate then help the team.
@mikeaddison6651
@mikeaddison6651 2 месяца назад
Why is it always Mercedes with this channel?
@LindaJuffermans
@LindaJuffermans 2 месяца назад
Because you're only watching those I guess? Only 2 out of the last 14 (not podcast) videos was about Mercedes.
@mikeaddison6651
@mikeaddison6651 2 месяца назад
@LindaJuffermans I've been watching dor years but it's normally Mercedes or always referring to Mercedes
@privatewinter1664
@privatewinter1664 2 месяца назад
in the past month they've made 5 videos on mercedes, compare this with 8 from ferrari, 7 from red bull, 4 from mclaren. if you don't like videos about mercedes no one is forcing you to watch them
@ChuyR.
@ChuyR. 2 месяца назад
tbf they are team which dominated the sport for close to a decade, even though they fell back to the midfield, they could still be capable of climbing back to the top 3
@rebro7191
@rebro7191 2 месяца назад
There were plenty of videos about Red Bull recently...ofc every single one was negative even though they are leading both championships.
@whassupg89
@whassupg89 2 месяца назад
I’m still not convinced they know what they’re doing
@connormcintyre8859
@connormcintyre8859 2 месяца назад
What used to make Mercedes great was their staff, they’ve lost so many great people to other teams or retirement it’s hard to fill the voids
@Mtha77
@Mtha77 2 месяца назад
I was thinking it wasn’t far enough
@kyler2744
@kyler2744 2 месяца назад
Only reason I’m subbed is to see these guys constantly pick on Mercedes after fanboying Lewis for several years straight
@lordwizrak1905
@lordwizrak1905 2 месяца назад
The best part about it all is that it is objectively true too. There's no defending it when the stopwatch never lies.
@davestagner
@davestagner 2 месяца назад
Speaking as a Lewis fan, it’s quite easy to be a Lewis fanboy AND badmouth Mercedes incompetence.
@kyler2744
@kyler2744 2 месяца назад
@@lordwizrak1905 oh I definitely believe the facts, you just can hear them seething behind the mics lol
@Fredhamnewey
@Fredhamnewey 2 месяца назад
Also you. Fanboying over max
@lordwizrak1905
@lordwizrak1905 2 месяца назад
@@Fredhamnewey Just because one necessarily dislikes Mercedes doesn't imply they would like Max. I disliked the dominance in 2022 and 2023 more so than I did in 2014-2021. Pancakes and waffles, disliking one doesn't imply the other.
@tsheposeeletso6475
@tsheposeeletso6475 2 месяца назад
Mecerdes has truly fallen flat on its face. The problem is they’re two years behind the leading teams
@glenrobinson10
@glenrobinson10 2 месяца назад
The difference is that McLaren always understood the regulations. They had the right suspension & basic car concept from the start. The issue was James Key's hesitant approach to upgrades.
@seanCNC23
@seanCNC23 2 месяца назад
One person doesn't normally change much, Keys departure, however has revolutionised Mclaren 😅
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 2 месяца назад
The suspension is much more complex than is it push/pull rod. Ferrari runs the complete opposite to RB and Mclaren, and achieve the same success
@marcpaola1371
@marcpaola1371 2 месяца назад
For everyone ssying James designed the Schumacher winning Ferrari’s. He did NOT design them. They were designed by Rory Byrne, as were the championship winning benettons. Rory designs were very muchba match for Newey. James Allison was head of design of the 2005 and 2014 Ferrari’s, and they were shit!
@BenS44
@BenS44 2 месяца назад
Crazy to think they were P2 last season.
@swl0323
@swl0323 2 месяца назад
Thanks to Hamilton feedback Mercedes moving backwards
@EJ0107
@EJ0107 2 месяца назад
They should have stayed with the zero pod concept.
@Grammarlings-cf8yw
@Grammarlings-cf8yw 2 месяца назад
What on earth is going on at Aston Martin?
@sam21462
@sam21462 2 месяца назад
God is a Checo fan, that's what.
@bumblebity2902
@bumblebity2902 2 месяца назад
incompetent management and owner son
@baronvandedem3997
@baronvandedem3997 2 месяца назад
They just recently moved in their new campus. I guess that takes a while to be fully settled. Those little thing that could seem not such a big deal, could make up for their loss. But I think they'll turn it around soon enough.
@the_lost_navigator7266
@the_lost_navigator7266 2 месяца назад
Seems like they have slowed down Alonso to make Lance look better. Only joking!!
@44fasterthanyou
@44fasterthanyou 2 месяца назад
Poor James he wanted to leave the team as well but they they declined it.
@marty197666
@marty197666 2 месяца назад
That was him saying I’ve failed and offering to fall on his sword. There aren’t any guards at the gates, if he really wanted to leave he would
@stonksmcmeme
@stonksmcmeme 2 месяца назад
James, it's Valtteri
@311superfly
@311superfly 2 месяца назад
What was the question again?
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
@WRXMAN-ms2mm 2 месяца назад
McLaren, Aston Martin, Williams and Mercedes have proven the engine or PU is not at issue. But both Williams and Mercedes have clearly shown that their grasp of downforce F1 cars is poor. With Mercedes have the least reason to be so bad as it is a works team able to spend to the limit the cost cap permits.
@felixchuah2854
@felixchuah2854 2 месяца назад
The cost cap must be remove and need better upgrades
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan 2 месяца назад
Just amazing how they could got soo wrong
@stormforce7599
@stormforce7599 2 месяца назад
Mercedes will return to winning but it won't be with Russell as he is not fast enough. In my opinion he is lacking that killer instinct which a needed in this sector. Also their main sponsors are not happy with the current drivers line up when Lewis leaves.
@marioformicadae6637
@marioformicadae6637 2 месяца назад
I just wish Mercedes would put as much effort into trying to make their road cars less shit maybe?
@DavidBrackett385
@DavidBrackett385 2 месяца назад
my guy, you have to relax with cutting out all the deadspace in your voiceover, you sound like you spoke one long sentence for 8 min with no breaths
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 2 месяца назад
Not really good form to compare a whole season to a season so far - teams bring upgrades at different pace and put their focus, money and time more into their own development cycles. So compare the Merc's overall performance vs the field at a similar point in the season last time to now would be fairer. I don't know what your data would show, but I'd bet it paints a bit of a different picture. Merc's have been progressing pretty well really, gone from being the 6th? 7th? best car and maybe even worse than that with how badly it porpoised, though with more flattering results for having two really good drivers into a car actually approaching the lead group in this short window from the regulation change - look how long it took to start getting that close for any team in the Merc dominance era, the pack is actually catching RB pretty quickly this time, with Merc being one of the faster improvers after a really terrible start, just not the best... Mclaren is rather unusual to the point its virtually unprecedented to find so much performance so quickly...
@aussiepie4865
@aussiepie4865 2 месяца назад
With Lewis leaving are they going to ditch the black colour scheme and back to the Silver? We know it was done to satisfy hambone because he’s a big sook if he doesn’t get his way.
@coolcol123
@coolcol123 2 месяца назад
….the audio sounds comically sped up? Why not just make a video that’s 20% longer? You guys make great content, why are you speeding it up??
@coolcol123
@coolcol123 2 месяца назад
…maybe I was drunk/tired/freaking out when I wrote this, sounds more normal today 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@selder_7
@selder_7 2 месяца назад
Either there data or their ability to interpret their data is flawed. They will have gone with zero side pods because the data said that was fastest and either it wasn’t or they were incapable of applying it. Merc are in such a bad place because that’s such a fundamental flaw to have for a top team. Similar to Aston and not being able to update a car mid season. Even if their engine in 2026 is as clear of the field as 2014, I don’t think they’d win the title
@serapeach6252
@serapeach6252 2 месяца назад
someone tell Toto if the duvet is too small for George, find a shorter George...
@leonardkosienski9828
@leonardkosienski9828 2 месяца назад
This aged well
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 месяца назад
EH, Merc is still easily in the top 6-7th consistently. hardly a bad car
@ianng4633
@ianng4633 2 месяца назад
So the "slower you go the less the car wants to turn", i.e. the slower it is the more the car understeers. That doesn't make sense and I think Lewis might be lying or didn't tell us the whole picture. Slow speed: mechanical grip plus little to no aero grip, higher yaw High speed: same mechanical grip, plus a lot of aero grip, less yaw So Lewis is basically saying that the mechanical balance of the car is to understeer, but the aero balance is oversteer and the faster you go, the more relative load goes to the front axle compared to the rear. That doesn't make sense since you need to turn more in slower corners (faster yaw) than fast corners and I don't think anyone in the history of racing does that. The only way that is possible is that the slightly high yaw in slow corners just suddenly ruin the aero completely, which also means that the car would be garbage in crosswind, which evidently is not true (it also means the aero concept has to be completely garbage if it can't handle even slight yaw). Idk what's going on, but either Merc is lying, or the setup concept is really completely garbage.
@NicholasLatipi
@NicholasLatipi 2 месяца назад
maybe the car is rear heavy in the high speed turn it wanted to go ahead of the front (oversteer) in the low speed turn it refuses to be swing sideways and just want push the front forward (understeer) Stiff suspension could also means weight distribution isn't as dynamic during breaking so the weight wont shift forward (dive) and front grip won't be as strong.
@NiSE_Rafter
@NiSE_Rafter 2 месяца назад
Aero probably isn't efficient at low speeds so not enough front end grip leading to understeer.
@asurada1154
@asurada1154 2 месяца назад
feels like Merc rely too much on computer data rather than other teams who understand the concept. computer data doesnt account for environmental changes?
@re14437
@re14437 2 месяца назад
0:52 you forgot that they also won in 2022
@98MTBiker
@98MTBiker 2 месяца назад
That was constructors championships, not race winning cars
@elctoo.13
@elctoo.13 2 месяца назад
With the new 2026 car, will mercedes has chances to rise again?
@yofresh15
@yofresh15 2 месяца назад
Team going backwards every year
@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353
@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 2 месяца назад
By the end of 2022 they were faster than Ferrari and Remember George won Brazil in 2022. I believe if the rules for the floor changes didn't happen in 2023 then Mercedes would have been much closer to red bull. But by loosing the ability seal the floor mechanicaly (which they lobbied for) they shot themselves in the foot.
@gavinsmith28
@gavinsmith28 2 месяца назад
Ross Brawn’s design was taken over by Mercedes, they’ve yet to design a winner with new regulations
@metal-gods
@metal-gods 2 месяца назад
I can see a sliver and papaya future coming
@Mijnnaamhoefjenietteweten
@Mijnnaamhoefjenietteweten 2 месяца назад
You need to have competent people to create a winning car.
@chewparka
@chewparka 2 месяца назад
The hissing in the audio is soooo bad
@ligengaeugine2374
@ligengaeugine2374 2 месяца назад
Would be intriguing to see all this Mercedes Powertrain hype for 2026 being wiped by a Ferrari banker PU in 2026. I don't understand where this hype is coming from, perhaps from Toto just to massage his ego.
@ashlandgunclub1000
@ashlandgunclub1000 2 месяца назад
If only AM had 2 drivers.
@mineralwater6736
@mineralwater6736 2 месяца назад
yes because Alonso is so good the season right?? no.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 2 месяца назад
Someone good to partner Stroll?
@311superfly
@311superfly 2 месяца назад
Kinky is the word. Hard work and development?! Haha haha. I feel dumb.
@311superfly
@311superfly 2 месяца назад
Baffled by Mercedes approach. Its like all enthusiasts left for red bull. Long ago. Cold German enterprise. Now.
@the_lost_navigator7266
@the_lost_navigator7266 2 месяца назад
German? Based in the uk and two thirds owned by non-Germans. Hmmm.
@chanhkhiemtran9010
@chanhkhiemtran9010 2 месяца назад
Merc simply forgor how to cook up an half-decent car anymore💀💀
@racefeen22p
@racefeen22p 2 месяца назад
Videos got some weird comments
@user-bh7wb4oz3j
@user-bh7wb4oz3j 2 месяца назад
Just put Lewis back in charge at Mercedes and things will turn out positive for them.Keep Toto away from the racing and set-up end of the team (George too) and winning will return to Mercedes and Lewis
@beaniejammer
@beaniejammer 2 месяца назад
God damn y'all really make this same video every year. Merc made bad car, but it will get better. x4 It really is just rinse and repeat. Like at a certain point it is a fundamental team issue and things aren't gonna improve.
@theodentherenewed4785
@theodentherenewed4785 2 месяца назад
Mercedes isn't going to fight for championship in 2025 and 2026 is a design reset.
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