Where's the 1 in "We Are" by Karnivool?

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Time Consuming Ep #36: Karnivool are an amazing Prog Metal band from Australia and this song deals with a concept that fits very nicely with last weeks Chaabi video. What does a Moroccan groove and an Australian band have in common? Besides originated in places I really want to go to?
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Big thanks to Torkid Kahrs for the title idea!
3 over 4.
Sivan Arbel 'Water Song' original song:
• Water Song
Shwesmo 'Gnawhat?' original song:
• Gnawhat?
Karnivool 'We Are' original song:
• Karnivool - We Are
Gnawhat? MEINL video:
• Meinl Cymbals - Yogev ...
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The "Time Consuming Suggestions" playlist has all the suggestions I got from you guys in the comments, plus a bunch of options I've put in.
Some of them may not have polyrhythms, and I'll delete them slowly once I go over it all!
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@urm9.m 3 года назад

That whole album is criminally underrated

@tanisrobinson3629 3 года назад

For me it was a disappointment after Sound Awake, but a very good album in its own right

@urm9.m 3 года назад

@@tanisrobinson3629 Sound Awake is for sure a stellar album. However I just can't think of any other album that sounds anything like Asymmetry. It's just got such a unique sound imo

@JManners10 3 года назад

It was a bit trippy for me... I liked the simpler approach to themata and sound awake. Sky machine is fantastic though!

@dbo4506 3 года назад

For me themata is all time. The rest are average at best and not come close to themata.

@greigns7781 2 года назад

@@dbo4506 You're tripping. Themata is a more straight forward rock album compared to Sound Awake's progressiveness and Asymmetry's experimentation

@eskoriakiebraqeyo7942 3 года назад

Caudal Lure by Karnivool is a mindfuck from the beginning

@jamesklingensmith7529 3 года назад

Steve Judd just plays the coolest grooves out there. Him and Jon Stockman together may just be the best rhythm section in the progressive rock/metal world

@sietsebuijsman8523 3 года назад

Not to mention Scarabs! :D

@PheonixRise666 3 года назад

@@sietsebuijsman8523 the drums for scarabs (and the entirety of themata) were actually entirely recorded by Drew Goddard as their first drummer left right before they went into the studio for themata.

@WiresAndChords 3 года назад

Outro of Change

@darkphoenix2 3 года назад

That's my favorite song from that album, doubt it's a common choice

@benjaminm.9700 3 года назад

I opened for Karnivool at Harpo's, in Detroit, years & years ago. I'd never heard of them back then, and I remember thinking "who the f*ck is THIS?" They rocked the house. Very talented musicians.

@theuslopes 3 года назад

that would have been a dream coming true for me!

@benjaminm.9700 3 года назад

@@theuslopes Cheers to you hopefully living your dream someday. Karnivool has only gotten bigger and better since all those years ago, best start emailing their agent/manager sooner than later. That's how we got on the show, our guitarist/manager usually sends over 100 emails and sample tracks per month.

@fullcircle8564 3 года назад

Damn!! I didn’t get into Karnivool until 2013. I’m from Windsor and if I knew you guys were opening for them at Harpos I would have been there 1000000%

@amjan 3 года назад

Karnivool "Sound Awake" - one of the greatest popular music albums ever. Any genre.

@P0lkoli 3 года назад

Well thats just your personal opinion, which i'm guessing takes your personal taste in music too much into account. I'm saying this as someone whose favourite album of all time is Sound Awake

@amjan 3 года назад

@@P0lkoli Well no fucking shit it's just my personal opinion. Whoopty fucking doo, thank you for clarifying that for me.

@P0lkoli 3 года назад

@@amjan :D

@P0lkoli 3 года назад

@@amjan Glad to be of service

@seansalo5117 3 года назад

@@amjan don't be a peepee head amjan

@hocky-ham324-zg8zc 3 года назад

Karnivool is so underrated. Love those m8s

@user-ix6qr5if5y 3 года назад

I suggest you take a look at the last minute of Karnivool's "Change Pt. 2" and the start of "Deadman" The drums will blow your socks off and the syncopation is out of this world.

@NoStickTricks 3 года назад

Hey buddy, I recently finished my note by note transcription of that entire (super awesome) Song. Happy to share it! Just send me message or check my cover'S description. I don't wanna spread links in the comment section of someone elses videos without being asked for it. :) All the best! Hannes

@HorribleOracle 3 года назад

This! Sound Awake and especially deadman is pure auditory wellbeing with an Aussie accent.

@nijolas.wilson 22 дня назад

12/8 with that 4:3 polyrhythm feel is what I consider Karnivool's signature groove. Pops up in a number of their songs.

@boogabuga7657 3 года назад

We Are is very cleverly mixed to give the impression that it is in 3, I heard it the same way the first time. If you listen to it live, the triplet feel becomes much more obvious.

@chameleon-dream-band-official 3 года назад

Steve Judd and John Stockman are such an amazing combination. Great analysis and yup they are TOTALLY underrated!

@Ravelle17 Год назад

best rock/metal rhythm section in the world imo

@Henrique_Henriques 3 года назад

Karnivool is great!!! And I've only learned about them a few months ago, when Rick Beato did a video about one of their songs. They quickly became one of my favorite bands.

@dr.joezundell 3 года назад

I feel the same about a song called “Umbra” by them. The drummer in this band is feckin incredible.

@afroheadwes 3 года назад

The whole band is incredible

@LongPeter 11 месяцев назад

Karnivool are easily the loudest gig I've ever been to. The last time I ever went to a gig without earplugs was the first time I saw Karnivool.

@traviswight6592 3 года назад

Karnivool are easily one of the best bands to come out of Australia. Can't recommend them enough! Would love to see you do a few more of their songs!

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Man I totally agree!

@imarioiv 3 года назад

You do Karnivool too?! Easily my favorite music breakdown channel now.

@MichelBeneventi 3 года назад

I'm new to this chanel, I'm only a guitar player interested into rythms, drums, time feel and I found all this content simply brilliant ! Thanks a lot

@Ravelle17 Год назад

This song has my favorite drumming ever. It’s so aggressive, not necessarily in attack but in rhythmic (dis)placement

@9tao9 3 года назад

Very happy to discover these videos. i have always have a hard time hearing these complex rhytms, your videos does a great job understanding them. Thank you

@caseymclane1972 3 года назад

I dare you to try and break down the drum solo at the end of "Change Pt.2" by Karnivool

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Such a cool section!

@Kirbyfemur1 Год назад

This Album was release at a really poor time in my life. It wasn't what I was wanting to hear from them, especially with Sound Awake still in my brain. I didn't like it at first. It took several years for me to finally appreciate and love it. I'm so glad to see more folks having talked about them

@asshollff 3 года назад

Yesssssssssss One of my favourites!! Steve Judd is a rythmic genius

@scottsmith4346 3 года назад

Love it! I've always been perplexed by the changes in this song. I'm grooving along (in 4) for the first minute and a half and then it suddenly after "stare into the light" feels like it shifts to something entirely different. I feel like this whole album is a mindfuck for drummers. I've listened to it hundreds of times and know every song well, but I absolutely cannot play to any of it, haha!

@DizzyDez613 Год назад

Most underrated band on the planet. “Sound Awake” was the best album since Tool’s “Lateralus” when it came out.

@ariromerog 3 года назад

This channel is quite a discovery for me

@julian-xy7gh 3 года назад

I know right. With the quality of his vids he deserves more subs

@franlovelsimic8421 3 года назад

So glad you covered Vool, they are one of my favorites! Sivan Arbel sounds great so I'll def check her stuff out! Oh and I would love if you analyzed anything by Car Bomb and The Contortionist!

@55schfiftyfive55 3 года назад

Car bomb, lol. That'll be a 3 part'r minimum

@potluckfishing Год назад

It was confirmed by Steve Judd that We Are is a straight forward 4/4. I must confess I picked it up exactly as you did , for the last 10 years!

@VictorPageMusic 3 года назад

Same !! I spent weeks or ever months feeling this song in 3/4, before seeing them dance in 12/8 in the music-video, and then stumbling upon a live version without the blurring 8ths-playing hihat/shaker... Anyway, amazing video as usual, and many thanks for explaining this this mind-wrecking fill from one of my favorite albums !!

@qlqnen 3 года назад

I felt it wrong for years. Maybe time to sell my drums.

@NiceToolsRemix30 3 года назад

Makes me love them more dude.

@fiorano10 3 года назад

Firstly , Karnivool. What a band ! So many gems they have in their catalog. Would like to see more of their analysis . Secondly, I came accross this channel earlier today, and absolutely enjoying the content and the style of presentation . Kudos !

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

THanks!!

@brunomocellin 3 года назад

You need to breakdown "Scarabs" from Karnivool.

@bidibum 3 года назад

Karnivool are amazing, and your channe is gold!

@chrism.t.7726 3 года назад

Came here yesterday for Meshuggah, subscribed and binged watched since!

@NoStickTricks 3 года назад

And I like your contemplation on Steve at the end. He is really one of the best drum-part-song-writers I am aware of in the genre. It's fair to say, he fits this band absolutely PERFECTLY. ..hah, am never tired of fanboying on Steve's drumming.

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Yeah man I'm slowly tuning in to this band it's awesome !

@alankofi 3 года назад

You make high quality content! And your accent gives everything a really sympathic note!

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

hahahahahaa english is hard

@Racosz 2 года назад

Yo are first person who has understood correctly this incredible song. Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

Such a good song !

@akrocanth 3 года назад

I didn't get into this record quite as much as Sound Awake, but We Are is so SO good. Easily up there with their best songs. I was recommended Karnivool around 2011, it was a slow burn for me getting into their sound but We Are is the song that eventually hooked me when it came out. Thanks for this analysis!

@Dogrockdog Год назад

The more you listen, the more reward. Rare

@SlavSquatSenpai Год назад

A few weeks ago, I had this song playing very faintly in my car when I turned it on. I could barely hear it and couldn't tell what song it was, but I absolutely loved the 4/4 groove. I brought the volume up and realized I'd been listening to it in 3/4 for 9 years. It's such a different feel. At least you didn't take 9 years to hear it haha. (It even took me some relistening/training to get the 1 beat right)

@m1nnefr3d 2 года назад

Finally someone to acknowledge my long-time heroes. Loved their music right from the moment I listened to Themata for the first time. Thanksm Yogev, for this feature and the recommendation to those who didn't know the band yet!

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

Best band they're great !!!

@stefan86wtf 3 года назад

You're a treasure, and so is the band!

@55schfiftyfive55 3 года назад

Thank you for shining some light on Karnivool! I've seen them 9 times live, and i'm seeing them twice next month! They are AMAZING! The band that got me into Prog. Much love from Australia. Thank you for such entertaining videos :)

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Thanks !

@tetrahedrontri 3 года назад

Amazing band, amazing explanation.

@geoffnolan1053 3 года назад

Loving the content, thanks man

@thornlessgnu412 3 года назад

Great video as always! Such a cool groove!

@MrMaxlines 3 года назад

Your videos is something I was always looking for

@wolfgang4468 3 года назад

This is quite enlightening and I also like your style of presenting! Very well done, thank you!

@LilSokka223 3 года назад

Yesss, you did it, great video! Love it!

@ilayg100 3 года назад

Amazing video as usual!

@danieljamesoconnor6800 3 года назад

Very Nice! Thanx for sharing Yogev! 🤘🏻😃

@pitzpitz 3 года назад

Great video, I'll definitely check out Karnivool :)

@AlexPilkevych 3 года назад

Man, you are amazing, explaining how my favorite songs work is super useful! Thank you!

@GuidoPerdomo 3 года назад

you explain this so well and with a touch of humor, it's really awesome! Subscribed

@Abbaddonna 3 года назад

damn, that video is awesome, the music is awesome and you're awesome, Yogev

3 года назад

so good!! I love that song and that groove!

2 года назад

Discovered your channel a few weeks ago. We basically have the same tastes in djent/prog polyrythms. And each time I watch one of your analyses, I want to (re-)discover the band's discography. Thanks for that!

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

You're welcome !!

@aaronbolean6903 Год назад

I had the best time learning the song "Change" from Sound Awake. There are some really tricky parts in that song and it is so fulfilling when you nail it. The Caudal Lure took a very long time. Took forever to count that one. I still can't play that one 100% yet lol.

@peteharman1061 Год назад

found the video excellent keep up the good work man !

@kapamaroyGR Год назад

HEY! You're the guy from Distorted Harmony! I love your band! One of my favorites, including Karnivool. Thank you for this video and for your music :)

@YogevGabay Год назад

I am !! Thanks a lot !!!

@RobertoReyesChHC 3 года назад

These videos are amazing and I’m learning so much! Seeing a live video of this song finally gave its pocket less ambiguity for me a while back btw it def is a bit tricky

@wolvetica 3 года назад

So like What about new day? That’s good one

@memecode 29 дней назад

It's pretty straight forward 6:8. What's to break down there?

@marktalentscout163 3 года назад

What a powerful performance! We really love your musicality!

@elderozone 3 года назад

Another great video!

@studiostelemaque9171 3 года назад

So great ! The first part of the video answers well my noob question last week about 3 and 4 grouping in Chaabi grooves :-)

@marcusdez 3 года назад

Your videos are amazing! Karnivool is really good!

@nickmcneely4343 3 года назад

Bro. You're the MAN for this one! So glad I found you through the Meshuggah videos you've done! "We Are" is such a fun song and I've been a fan of Karnivool since Themata! Great work!

@nickmcneely4343 3 года назад

Also, the fill you highlighted was my clue into the 4/4 (and the constant kick drum ;) )

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Best fiilllll

@rodrigovazquez1292 3 года назад

I’m very patient with this whole pandemic situation so I can go to the sound awake 10th anniversary tour... I’m glad you’ve covered them. Hope you do more about this amazing band

@NEMOYBAND 3 года назад

Thank for the video man!

@mrhlettfp6729 3 года назад

Thank you

@goatmagic5220 3 года назад

Never thought I’d see the day... thank you for this video

@spencerj 3 года назад

Yesss! I think I posted this in the comments, regardless, so excited to see this here!

@jonathandoemel2775 3 года назад

Firstly, I love Karnivool...either my top band, or in the top 3. Secondly...Shwesmo...holy shit, what a project. I'm looking to make a dark prog color bass EP soon, and this is much more in line with what I'm hearing in my head than anything else I've ever heard. Thank you for this!

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Happy you like it !

@samgquinlan 3 года назад

Oh man...as a loooooong-time Karnies fan, your "noob" interpretation of the 1 is a really cool new thing for me haha, many thanks!

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

hahahaha my pleasure!

@lynseldest3597 27 дней назад

I'm gutted you didn't explain why the acoustic triple j version sounds like a different time signature. I really love what you explained here and I want to delve into all the songs and lesson you presented in this video! this song has been a puzzle to me for a long time!!

@lynseldest3597 27 дней назад

I'm applying what you demonstrated and it's very difficult but its is making sense!!

@joaolucasanderson6463 3 года назад

Love your content!!!

@ravnexx8354 3 года назад

Just wanted to thank you for a video about Karnivool (the best band in the world)

@longdrums 3 года назад

My favourite song off that record, and one of my favourite Karnivool songs overall. I was mesmerised with the rhythmic manipulation going on in We Are. I feel most of the song in 3, but Judd starts doing 4 to the floor in a later chorus and that's where my mind was blown. That, and that fill you covered. Sick band.

@Imban3z 3 года назад

I always thought that fill in the end is some kind of absurd metric modulation that I'd never get but yeah now it makes sense if, like you said, you pick a subdivision and stick with it. Great work man! Learning so much EDIT: btw Gojira released a new single and it's a time sig pandemonium, you should check it out...and hopefully myth bust it ;)

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Glad you liked it! Will listen to it !

@yuvrajsingh121 3 года назад

No man! they aren't underrated. It's a cult kinda thing. ❤️❤️

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

I disagree! At least in my circles I haven't heard too much about them. Maybe I should reconsider my friends hahahahaha I think we should help spread the Karnivool word as much as we can! I know that for me, they have entered my list of song examples I teach with !

@seanfagan3001 3 года назад

Glad to hear that you also heard the 3/4 with a 16th note pickup. Everyone I ask gets thrown off by the snare/tom pattern.

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Yup!

@bartekglinski2665 3 года назад

nice work, appreciate it

@freshprinceofsharjah 3 года назад

Yogev, I love you

@aglees2b 3 года назад

Your videos are so good. Top drawer

@travisbunce7334 Год назад

Rick Beato's break down of Goliath is amazing, and he talks about the insane time signature in that song at great depth. Nice break down

@lightbulbsun4421 3 года назад

cheers from morocco

@The_Noticer. 3 года назад

Yep found this band by happenstance and absolutely loved it.

@ecstaticwaves1271 3 года назад

Some good stuff here!

@ecstaticwaves1271 3 года назад

As in all good stuff

@tingkagol 3 года назад

I actually asked Drew Goddard (Karnivool guitarist) on Facebook after learning about the confusion since I initially believed the song was in 3/4 when I first heard it. He confirmed it's 4/4. In my opinion though, the bridge ("let's reset it all") with Steve's stack/china hits is so obviously in 3/4 it throws you off. Drew also gave credit to Jon's bass hitting the backbeat perfectly which further sold the illusion that the song is in 3/4.

@silver1788 3 года назад

In Xavi by Snarky Puppy is an 3:4 Polyrythm also and has maroccan rythms

@enanochio777 Год назад

The most complex is the "noob" version... It is not only polymetric, but it is also polyrhythmic and contains displacement. To write it on a staff it would be necessary to use nested tuplets. The "advanced" version is a 4/4 written with triplets. Karnivool rules, great video bro 🙂

@chrisoleary9331 3 года назад

AWSOME

@thepactissealed 3 года назад

good job!

@francosanguinetti817 3 года назад

Sos un maestro. Ojala algún día hagas alguno en español. :)

@fedmcglowie7240 3 года назад

I only copped the real time signature listening to the acoustic version they do because it's way more obvious there.

@GauravKumar-bf2rq 3 года назад

You should do the "learning to play drum" path for a complete noob. Also as a beginner, while it is very interesting, the subject of the video often eludes me.

@freshprinceofsharjah 3 года назад

Karnivool are kings and poets of prog

@lukatomica2654 3 года назад

The intro to Umbra is probably my favorite intro to a song ever

@1977jelliott 2 года назад

They are a criminally underrated Western Australian band, great people too

@qlqnen 3 года назад

YES, my request! Or at least one of the people requesting this. Thanks so much for doing this and for responding as well! Don't worry about not picking up on the rhythm immediately. I've played drums for over 20 years and didn't catch the correct rhythm for YEARS until I head the live version. I just always went with the wrong pulse and figured there was some fancy-shmancy rhythmics going on with the pickups and fills. Such a fantastic band, I'm not surprised you'd be into them considering you've already covered Tool, Meshuggah, Porcupine Tree, and Opeth. Plenty of material for you to analyze, I'm sure. Have you considered doing The Dillinger Escape Plan?

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

TBH, I don't know dillinger AS WELL. any specific song?

@qlqnen 3 года назад

@@YogevGabay When I Lost My Bet, Farewell Mona Lisa and Pig Latin are personal favorites that I THINK have some oddities going on, but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's just some phrasing or accenting at a fast tempo or actual time signature tricks. Some of the more popular songs tend to be more straightforward. Another band that sits somewhere between Meshuggah and Dillinger is Car Bomb and they might give you a run for your money as well :)

@NoStickTricks 3 года назад

Enjoyed this Episode very much! Thanks for sharing it with us, Yogev. Karnivool is pure gold and this song is so beautiful and well written. The entire Album is stunning. I am also guilty of having heard We Are as in 3/4 for actually many, many times. It always needed the fill in + Vocal-start "turn around" to get be grounded. I love these thing's. The more often "they work" at confusing me at first the more I enjoy it and keep coming back to them. :) Still, in this track, it doesn't give you an uneasy feeling at all, listening to it. That makes it so compelling, right? Cheers!

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

They're amazing for sure!

@hanielcarvalho 3 года назад

I've been waiting for you to break down a Karnivool song for so long, and you didn't let me down (as usual). But I'll like to suggest their song Scarabs for any future Time Consuming. It's been while since I heard that song for the first time, and at that time I had no ideia of what the heck was going on, and has been ten years since and I still have no ideia lol. Thanks, again, for your amazing videos and for the knowledge you give us.

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Will check it out!

@NoStickTricks 3 года назад

You can also check Troy Wright for a full Scarabscription of it. Guess it's still up.

@Frankschtaldt 3 года назад

Will thumbs up anyone recommending Vool! \m/

@pAWNproductionsDE 3 года назад

Great video as always! Karnivool is awesome, and the drummers is probably the best of the group, which is saying something! I'd love to see you make a video on Goliath. If I remember correctly, it's based on the offbeats of 7/4, and is an absolutely delightful mindfuck of a groove

@YogevGabay 3 года назад

Here's an excellent break down of that song: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dfoF88I-e7Q.html