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Where Would We Be without the State? | Per Bylund 

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@DrProgNerd
@DrProgNerd 13 часов назад
It's amazing to me the trust that the average person gives the State - given the horrible results that it produces. Knowing that there *actually are* people like Per and the folks at the Mises Institute out there keeps me from becoming black-pilled. Thank you for offering some sanity in this crazy world.
@aslkdjfzxcv9779
@aslkdjfzxcv9779 5 часов назад
the average person is a bipedal farm animal. their behavior shouldnt be shocking.
@william6223
@william6223 13 часов назад
Free
@erelpc
@erelpc 14 часов назад
Alas, we can only dream of such a world
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 12 часов назад
The Free Market exists.
@JayA-k7m
@JayA-k7m 8 часов назад
For only 22 episodes The Jetson’s sure burned themselves into the minds of certain age groups.
@original_poster
@original_poster 8 часов назад
The problem with this chat is it paints an ideal picture of capitalism, which doesn't exist in reality. I'm no fan of the state, mind you.
@green3488
@green3488 8 часов назад
No it doesn't
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 8 часов назад
The Hong Kong model worked out not too bad
@dansonoflightning2277
@dansonoflightning2277 7 часов назад
Not necessarily--Roderick Long and Kevin Carson have talked about this
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 12 часов назад
👏👏👏👏
@aslkdjfzxcv9779
@aslkdjfzxcv9779 5 часов назад
thered be another State, warlord, or cult. in perpetuity.
@tomredeye312
@tomredeye312 3 часа назад
As you reduce the capacity of the state progressively downwards via a Bitcoin standard the state would be less and less impactful in perpetuity. That's the dream anyway.
@OdditiesandRarities
@OdditiesandRarities 3 часа назад
not unless you make the emergence of statism impossible.... decentralised models make centralisation of power less possible
@VoluntaryPlanet
@VoluntaryPlanet Час назад
Not if people shed their belief in the myth of authority.
@rafaelflores448
@rafaelflores448 2 минуты назад
this argument that anarchism is bad because if we end the state, thered be another state again, that there would be a power vacuum or that the state is inevitable, thus we should have a minimal state to stop other states from forming, always striked me as stupid. The same could be said about many other things, why should you clean your room if its always gonna get dirty and dusty again?if you clean your room that's going to create a power vacuum and more dust is going to appear, so you should just have a minimal amount of dust in order to keep more dust from accumulating. why should we try to stop all types of murder, rape and theft? things like theft will always exist, theyre inevitable, if we were able to abolish all types of crime it would be much easier for other people to commit crimes again, so we should have a minimal amount of crime to stop more crime from happening, etc. it might be the case that, indeed, the state is inevitable, maybe if we abolish the state we will just have another one and theres no possible imaginable measure we can establish, like cryptocurrency or decentralized intitutions, to stop the state from forming again, so what? the state is still an unethical institution, even when we assume that the state is inevitable, which i dont believe it is, this still does not make the state ethical, just like the fact that crime is inevitable does not make it ethical, because thats what the state is, it is a form of institutionalized crime, it is the organization of the political means. Furthermore, if the state comes back again after 20 years or something, what is stopping the people from just abolishing it again if it was already abolished one time? it would probably be much easier to abolish it the second time because it would be much weaker and the people would not have been already brainwashed in mass into believing in it through public schools.
@rafaelflores448
@rafaelflores448 2 минуты назад
this argument that anarchism is bad because if we end the state, there'd be another state again, that there would be a power vacuum or that the state is inevitable, thus we should have a minimal state to stop other states from forming, always struck me as stupid. The same could be said about many other things, why should you clean your room if its always gonna get dirty and dusty again?if you clean your room that's going to create a power vacuum and more dust is going to appear, so you should just have a minimal amount of dust in order to keep more dust from accumulating. why should we try to stop all types of murder, rape and theft? things like theft will always exist, theyre inevitable, if we were able to abolish all types of crime it would be much easier for other people to commit crimes again, so we should have a minimal amount of crime to stop more crime from happening, etc. it might be the case that, indeed, the state is inevitable, maybe if we abolish the state we will just have another one and theres no possible imaginable measure we can establish, like cryptocurrency or decentralized intitutions, to stop the state from forming again, so what? the state is still an unethical institution, even when we assume that the state is inevitable, which i dont believe it is, this still does not make the state ethical, just like the fact that crime is inevitable does not make it ethical, because thats what the state is, it is a form of institutionalized crime, it is the organization of the political means. Furthermore, if the state comes back again after 20 years or something, what is stopping the people from just abolishing it again if it was already abolished one time? it would probably be much easier to abolish it the second time because it would be much weaker and the people would not have been already brainwashed in mass into believing in it through public schools.
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