Whetstone war - Japanese natural stones synthetic stone Red Aoto vs. Naniwa Green Brick of Joy!

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Another episode of whetstone war! This is a strange battle. The green brick of joy is rated 2000 grit. The challenger is rated from 2000 to 4000. We’re going to find out who performs better. It’s an awkward matchup and we recognize this. Excited to bring you something different.
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JNS RED Aoto Matukusuyama
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@robertdavis171 Год назад

I love my Green Brick of Joy, but whenever I soaked it, there were never any bubbles coming out of it. So now I treat it as a dunk and go. 10 seconds under water and it's ready to go. Very happy with this Vlog by the way. I much prefer to see stone differences, than knife differences.

@nadm Год назад

Might as bubbles forever. So I don't know if they're making them different now. Maybe I have an older one

@roshanvermezyari5273 Год назад

IT IS NOT A SOAKER. I have used it as a splash and go and works fine. But excels with a 1-2 minute soak. You don’t have to spray water as much and it loads less after a very quick soak. It is also a soft stone, definitely not hard and with bad technique can be gouged easily.

@roshanvermezyari5273 Год назад

@@nadm I think you may have an older one. My initial out of box soak was 10-15 minutes. I used it today ZERO bubbles but a quick soak makes it a better performing stone in my experience so far.

@Agent_Orange_Peel Год назад

Green Brick!!!!! I just picked this stone up two months ago and it instantly became my new favorite stone. More messy than what I am used to since I mainly use Shaptons and Arkansas Stones, but well worth it.

@nadm Год назад

It's definitely the most versatile stone.

@sonkekoster3105 Год назад

Great show! Thank you.

@nadm Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Mpafanai46 Год назад

Love the whetstone war, watch all of them

@nadm Год назад

Well, we definitely appreciate your support. We just try to do one a month and rotate everything to keep you guys entertained.

@arturmisiuk9387 2 месяца назад

Hi Greg, there is JNS aoto matukusuyama as well, 210×75×25mm looks like morihei karasu 9000, yeah so many stones ...

@jamesbarisitz4794 Год назад

Still my happy stone. Nice to see it showcased on the channel. Try going straight to a Shapton 8000 for fun after the Naniwa 2000. Mind blowing. ✌

@nadm Год назад

That's crazy. That's such a big jump but it sounds like fun.

@hoggif Год назад

Nice to see another interesting video. I have a love-hate relationship with my Green brick. I like the finish, but hate that is is not that fast, clogs/loads easily and has a soft surface that is easy to cut into and the feedback is rather muted. I tend to not use it much as I have stones that I just like more in more than one of those ticks. I find it not bad, just not close to perfect for what I prefer unlike the ones I tend to prefer more. The type of feedback matters a lot to me as it makes me enjoy using a stone or not. This may be another expensive video to watch as it reminds me of how I've never tried out the red aoto (or the JNS blue aoto) and along with a couple of other items I've wanted from them for a long while.😃

@nadm Год назад

It's funny because it seems like it'll do it all. It'll last forever. It doesn't cost a lot. It's not spectacular but it gets it done.

@hoggif Год назад

@@nadm That's so true. It is not that it doesn't get a job done. It does. The size is huge too. I just don't enjoy using the green brick. Perhaps I'll like the red aoto, we'll see when I eventually get one. When I have lots and lots of excellent stones around, it makes me picky. I want to enjoy it rather than just get the job done. The green brick of joy just is missing the joy for me.

@hoggif Год назад

I actually just got JNS red Aoto and the smaller JNS blue dotted aoto. What lovely stones! I prefer them over the green brick. As first expressions I like the feedback of red aoto and it seems like a harder stone than green brick (in positive way). The green brick feels clearly more fine (and has a bit finer scratch pattern) than red. Red seems to contain more coarse particles in mixture. I would estimate the blue aoto to be quite similar in pattern than green brick. Blue one is hardest of these all. Some day I'd like to try out some natural aotos, but unfortunately getting a few different to try out cost more than reasonable. I did not try to find out which cuts a bit better than some of these. Every one of these made an excellent edge. Either one you choose, you get a stone that gets the job done quite well.

@nadm Год назад

@@hoggif I agree. It was a very close race. I think if you’re in Europe, then getting one closer with shipping and taxes is the best choice but if you’re in America, the green brick is an easier purchase, considering all things equal.

@hoggif Год назад

@@nadm They have free shipping worldwide if you but not that much stuff. A couple aotos will do that or an aoto +1-2 other stones. Sure, if you only get one, you'll need to consider shipping. I actually got the idea to try that out from your channel and it was worth the money to get one. Thanks! (I had the idea for a while already for something to try out one day)

@sonkekoster3105 Год назад

Hi Greg, I am a big fan of the green brick of joy. It's rated to be 2000# but you can easyly achieve a 3000# grid finsh with it only by playing with mud (nagura) and different pressure. It really works. It works brilliant on white #1 and it also works on pm-steel. I love it!

@nadm Год назад

Some people have said they thought it was above 2000 but I'm able to sharpen and get a great edge with it so I don't think it could be too much higher because then you're really just polishing

@sonkekoster3105 Год назад

@@nadm Yes you are right - but I like to play a little bit with the green brick of joy. It's alot of fun. I use the stone as entry stone and major stone for my sharpening. Because I don' t use my knives till they are really dull. And for some of my knives the green brick of joy is totally enough. It's sharpen them up, strop them on the stone and go to a leather strop - done! Totally fine - let's go to the kitchen! On my last session I tryed this for one knife and for two others I progressed to a natural begium brick (~5000#-6000#) and for the last knife even to my Morihei Karasu 9000#. That's fun - to see how the blades behave on the different products.

@deannaannechino3543 Год назад

Honestly, I'm surprised. I really didn't expect the Green Brick to be that good, let alone be the winner!

@nadm Год назад

What’s really funny is if you watch me in these videos you can see me just to surprises you. I’ve learned not to be surprised anymore, and just except the winner.

@robthomas6012 Год назад

I love my green monster too.

@nadm Год назад

It's so funny how everybody loves the greenbrook of joy. It's just such a big hit.

@blggtavus Год назад

Please do Morihei 8K vs Suehiro 8K next.

@nadm Год назад

Thank you for the suggestion. We could use it. Will look into it. Now that we did a 1000 and we normally try to do a progression up to 8000. We'll see about it. God bless.

@judgetoogood1033 10 месяцев назад

I have the green brick of joy. Would yoy useCashew lacquer on the greeen brick of joy?

@nadm 10 месяцев назад

You don’t need to, but you can do it if you want to. You don’t have to do it.

@LisZam1463 Год назад

Hi! Do you have any experience with the Naniwa Pro 2000? I am leaning towards buying it but I'm not 100% sure I want it over the Aotoishi.

@nadm Год назад

I'll just say it's a fantastic company. He can't really go wrong with anything they have. You just have a preference. They're very hard stones.

@LisZam1463 Год назад

@@nadm Thanks for your answer! The edge you've been able to get with the GBoJ has been amazing imo. If it's possible to get the same results with the pro I would get the pro. The pro is also 30 bucks cheaper to get for me in Sweden. Thank you for your content, I appreciate it a lot! It's fun to so couples working together as well! ^^

@nadm Год назад

@@LisZam1463 great product. Technique is what is required. I better just give yourself time. You’ll get it.

@LisZam1463 Год назад

@@nadm Thank you!

@Doodle-.Snoozel Год назад

Are you ever going to test the polish of the stones?

@nadm Год назад

I am, but I have to get better at polishing. I learned a lot this weekend. I don't want to miss represent the stone by being horrible at polishing. Thank you for being patient with me. I wish I had a knife polisher here with me and they could do it. I am trying to learn. It's actually a desperate feeling to try to learn it so bad.

@powerai 4 месяца назад

take a drink for every "my wife"

@knifesharpeningnorway Год назад

The aotoshi/green brick is 4k if not 4.5 or maybe even 5k if a little loaded and a very very decent finnisher on most blades. Its dang good at removing scratches. Hm mine is completely splash n go weird that it needs so long a soak ive heard of like 30-60 seconds but not 10-15 minuttes maybe something are wrong?

@nadm Год назад

You're making me wonder if you have the same one. It definitely has bubbles coming out of it forever. It sits for a long time. That is always been the case. I have been able to easily get a sharp edge and I would never be able to sharpen something on a 4K. So I don't know if we have the same one madeThe same way. Interesting. You can go back and look at my other video on just the green brick of joy. Performed extremely well when sharpening. Some people say it's rated a little higher but you jumped all up to 4000. Kind of crazy.

@knifesharpeningnorway Год назад

@@nadm jupp i have the naniwa aotoshi green brick of joy. Someone Bought it in japan for me. Its as fine as 4k for me in polish and edge feel. Niclas Gudmundsson loaned it and feelt the samme and he is a way better sharpener than me

@roshanvermezyari5273 Год назад

@@knifesharpeningnorway The GBOJ has a polish close to a 4000-5000 but not the cutting and finish of 4k. The finished cutting edge is 2-3k at best.

@knifesharpeningnorway Год назад

@@roshanvermezyari5273 not my experience with it

@roshanvermezyari5273 Год назад

@@knifesharpeningnorway Could be different for all of us. You got your stone in Japan. @Never a Dull moment in USA and I got mine in Canada. Seems strange though as its a synthetic and the formulation should be the same.