Very nice selection this time around. I was looking seriously into a couple of the bikes in this video as my next e-bike upgrade. My favorites were a little more than I wanted to spend… Tried to stay under $2500. Looked real long and hard at that Road Warrior… Just a tad too pricey/heavy for me. Keep pumping out the vids man, you’re great!
Buy an e-bike where you can get service don't just buy something in whim thinking you're going to get good service for the parts and warranty. This is very important
Excellent assortment, and this makes a good reference for shoppers. I think the Fabulous Route 66 and the Spark Bandit are my favorites. The Bandit is pretty much limitless and has a frame that will take a head-on collision with a car and not be damaged. I personally know a guy that can do 90mph on his modded Bandit. I like the Grizzly, but can't bear the seat. Sorry for the bad joke... I'll see myself out now 😜
You are doing an awesome job with your video agreat service to us the consumers. I have been watching your videos from the get go. I just received my new Wired Crusier and have to thank you for helping me make that choice. I've built 4 ebikes from Ebikeling conversion kits and wanted to try a premade bike this time around. TY again --Glenn from NH .
My decision was based on where I live and how the roads are. We don't have many bike lanes and even thoughs are dangerous because the speed limit is 55-60 on most our local roads you get cars and trucks buzzing by you and close at times. I first bought a 20mph fat tire bike wasn't gonna cut it and so I picked up a bomber clone 65mph, bigger heavier and more noticeable lol.
i have lots of 45mph roads with no shoulder around me, that's why i am liking th 40mph bikes, at least you can scoot down the road somewhat safely for a bit.
@@CitizenCycle925Many of the roads I ride are like that also. After watching a bunch of your videos I bought a Wired Freedom. Just received it earlier this week. I feel much safer traveling down road like that now. Thank you.
Two thumbs up 👍👍CitizenCycle a real class act. They provide actionable content with great explanations and visualization.Time well spent, worthy of your consideration Videos & Host highly recommended. ✌😎
I just love your channel. You have given me lots of info. I’m going to purchase the Himiway cobra and thinking of making the changes you have minus the awd. Thanks for your advice.
Thank you -- excellent content and appreciate the timecode and links in the description. I think you should state the list price for each bike at the start of the video section for each bike.
Category you are missing is the folding 66lb class 3 that still fits in an elevator. lectric xp3 is baseline comparison in that category. But there are quite a few alternatives with more power,range,torque in the category. Basically, 28mph top speed, 65-70nm torque in 20x4 wheels, and 52t crank is good enough performance wise. I know you like way more torque and speed, but you know.... there's just a lot between the xplite and everything else in your list.
Another fantastic video. Thank you Citizencycle 😊 hard choices to make. But I think I'd go for the fabulous road warrior. I'm a sucker for speed and looks like a fun bike on and off road.
🐍 Brian, can you remove the front seat on camera and show us the controllers and confirm for everyone the secret of the Grizzly power 30A or 35A(?) along with their custom 1000w/1850w peak motors⁉️ 🖖🤙
Been researching a few months and finally ordered a Grizzly yesterday. I was intrigued by the Havoc X2 but just couldn't find enough info and not sure of the odd styling. This will be my first ebike and super excited about new releases coming the next couple years.
Have you seen swift pro AWD $1600 35mph? Full supension 23ah 48volt lg cells NO tire rubbing on the controller fixed via shock that limits the travel that was already limited by the controller even more, consider this bike about $400 less with two 1000watt motors and no issues with limiting your suspension to avoid destroying your controller. Not buying wired ebike. Swift pro ebike on my radar.
Fabulous Road Warrior here is interesting. I think on your other video of 9 bikes, you had the Electric Bike Company Model E, and the Aventon Aventure 2. These 3 are the best choices imo. Full disclosure ... based on your reviews I bought the Aventon.
Where would Euphree City Robin Plus fit into this mix? I watched your video on that bike and am getting ready to buy a pair of them. I enjoy your videos!! Thanks!
I'll probably put the city Robin in the next video I do like this. I was trying to stick to the fat tires for this one. The City Robin x Plus has the best finishings of any bike I've had. It's a fantastic design. You won't be disappointed.
I have the first edition of the City Robin and love it! Being 6’2, the adjustable handlebar stem and Suntour seat post adjust enough to give me full extension while pedaling. I often ride without power since it’s very easy to pedal with the 27.5x2.10 tires. The folks at Euphree are very helpful if you have questions or need assistance. No regrets. Looking forward to Citizens review!
Curious. Do you ever take any of your E bikes on the gravel roads in NC ? I ride dual sport motorcycles in W NC and am considering E bikes as well for some of these areas. Interested in your thoughts on how some of these would perform. Thanks!
@@CitizenCycle925 Oh for sure! I’d put $ on Citizen every time! I’m just curious to see how close! Havoc was the best competition so far for the Citizen! And I’m sure you would “gap” 🤣 the grizzly! Now the havoc and grizzly should be a good race!
I agree that the Aventons are pretty nice bikes. However, be sure to select one that has some kind of front end suspension. We test drove a pair of them that did not have front suspension on a little older bike trail. Every little bump was jarring. Almost chipped a tooth. Another couple test drove them just before us and they loved them.
If anyone is watching this video who lives in Las Vegas, comment me back, I know the best Ebikes for our money based on motor size and battery range, but I need more local support when it comes ot assembly and maintenance issues down the road, (which are invevitable) and local Ebike dealers/repair shops are not always helpful, when you approach them with a BYOB (Bring Your Own Bike) problem, (they did not sell you directly with their outrageous mark-up.
Hey neighbor, Happy Labor Day, I'm actually gettng ready to shut down from a hard labor since Friday, so you might not hear from me again until tomorrow, but since I'm studying Ebikes again today, bear with me as I off on a scattered rant, and vent for a minute: There is generally a trade off between 3 main areas, Range, Power, and Quality. For example: in terms of the right balance of quality and power with the sacrifice of lower range, The AIPAS A2 available for 800.00 with a true 750 Watt motor from a real brand is a good entry point in a way. But the Aipas A2 unlike 90% of the other brands out there, does something that is messed up. They won't say anywhere in there specs and description what the exact battery AMPS are, That mean's it's probably very small like under 12 AMP, who know's maybe as little as 10 AMPS, but at this lower price point, getting some important extra's like turn signals and puncture resistant tires and semi rear suspension with the spring loaded seats is kind of unique at this lower price point, see the Amazon description here: www.amazon.com/Aipas-Folding-Electric-Removable-Step-Through/dp/B0C7R5LXSS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=SRAF82EUCPR2&keywords=AIPAS%2BA2%2BTire&qid=1693863063&sprefix=aipas%2Ba2%2Btire%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1&th=1 But for me right now , I feel like it's possible to get at least twice the power and 3X or more the battery range in the 1500.00 but it's not easy, in fact I'm still looking for the right model or right sale that would make it too hard to pass up, For example I would like to pay only about 1500.00 for a 1500Watt or 2,000 Watt motor set up, with at least a 40 AMP to 60 AMP battery range and get all the other extra's, like good dual suspension, but the but that's not possible from Amazon directly or from any USA based online website, it means having to shop through Chineese manufacturer websites directly, and that presents unique challenges , I have got very close however to this price point with those kind of specs and the perfect riding weather is now here, so I don't know how much longer I'm going to wait before just diving in myself. Anyway, until you hear back from me in the next reply , keep this other model on your radar as a good starting point, on what's possible if you can budget all the way up torwards 2,000 USD, (right now it's only 1700.00) but the stock tires kind of suck and might only last you about 1000 miles or less, and the seat based on reviews from RU-vid owners, sounds like you either will want to change or add extra padding if your going to be riding it often enough, I'm looking for something very similar to this and willing to sacrifice some battery range in exchange for more power myself, ( I'm not sure a 1000 watt motor is always going to feel like it's enough power ) see; www.amazon.com/eAhora-Electric-Mountain-Commuting-Delivery/dp/B0CF15JX8J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DFT43ZL1BG7P&keywords=juliette+tire&qid=1693863916&sprefix=juliett+tire%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-1 Again sorry about the long rant and reply,
That is good information. I am leaning more towards the Kepler or Freedom because of there higher volt batteries. The two bikes you suggested are 48v. I’m a heavy fat ass that would need power. What do you think about those bikes?
Overpriced, even the Kepler is overpriced, just be a little more patient, if you weigh over 200 lbs your probably going to want at least 1500 Watts, I'm not sure if the 52Volts when you have 1500 Watts or 2,000 Watts of power is an absolute must, I wouldn't think so, however let me ask you something: Are you likely going to ride on city streets from say dead stops at stop sign for say 25% of the time? (if you are, than having 52 Vots might be more important for your safety so you can qucily accelerate and get the jump on cars from stop signs and traffic signals, (but this means little, if your going to be riding the ebike 80% of the time ''off road'' P.S. do you weigh over 250 lbs? (if so than you really need to consider a 2,000 watt motor setup,)
Hello, love your videos. I have the Hovsco Alpha step thru. I am ghost peddling in high gear, is it better in your opinion to increase the chainring from a 42 to a 53 or decrease the freewheel from a 14-28 to a 11-34? Thx
I'm a fat, lazy baby boomer and can't be arsed pedalling. I was a kid the last time I rode a push bike but I do fancy one of those e-bikes and have plenty of cash to splash out on one. What would you recommend?
@@CitizenCycle925 I see in your shorts video you received an Orange Cruiser! Wondering if there is a difference between the Freedom and Cruiser ride wise and performance wise? I realize the freedom has rear suspension but is it really a big difference between the cruiser? Also is the Cruiser a touch bit faster since it has less of a frame? Just a few things I’m wondering about between the two if you do a comparison video? 👍
@johnb6174 Wired Cruiser is identical performance to the Freedom, the lack of suspension is very noticeable though. The Cruiser feels great, just needs a suspension seat post. Video coming on that bike soon.
Whichever, remember, it WILL breakdown and customer service is a joke. You will learn to be a mechanic, like it or not. My Ariel Grizz controllers exploded and caught fire between my legs riding, under warranty, and they only mailed me new Xi-ese junk to replace myself! CCP Garbage.
