sampo's ideal build is 4psc break set bronya ideal build is 4pcs hackerspace cuz spd boost and ally adv forw louch is 4pcs passerby cuz extra sp and kafka is 4psc dot build
precisely the reason why I just turn off dmg numbers completely in hi3, it does not matter anymore after a certain point, all that's relevant is how fast you can kill the boss
LMAO Mob in elysian realm is terrifying, they have more HP, more element and physical resist. The boss is 4x stronger than usual and the last boss like kevin, kalpas and other have different attacks pattern lol
@@maxx9945 yea he can hit characters like Seele during animations. You know her weapon skill with the circle. He like one hit me while I was doing that.
@@hxdsgn4375 SEA nirv should reach 500D soon after anniv patch while KR and CN IOS is already on 500+D since a few months ago idk why but abyss needs to be reworked again soon, this temps are getting ridiculous
@@nemubenzene9138 Well that's power creeping at its finest. Old valks are just mechanically not even viable. The only way thy can perform is to change their mechanis entirely and we know that's not going to happen or just out right impossible.
for who doesn't play hi3 , theres mode called Elysian Realm . Basically , we need to pick certain buff every floor we clear ( more floor more buff , which mean the enemy become extremely strong ) . There's certain characters that manage to deal massive damage in 1 hit ( in my account , HoFi manage to deal 450 milions damage . The enemy has 20 bars of hp and its only -4 bar of health )
@@unknown_unfound I'm doing the difficulty before Finality perfectly with HoRb dealing 13M on floor 4, the timer it's only in half of it when I finished the floor☺️
Honkai is definately the most fast paced of all of these. I dont play genshin but from watching gameplay it seems that its much less of a pain to manage buff timer uptime and stuff like that (HSR is the best game for this aspect lol just stand still and think)
honestly? we don't even know if we had a buff active in Honkai impact 3rd 90% of the time, we just use the skill and hope it last long enough for the other character Ultimate to deal damage and kill the boss
@@kurotsuki12 I thought that when we use a buff in Genshin, it appears some arrows around our characters (representing the buff) or a tiny sword in their character icons, am I wrong?😞
Meanwhile in elysian realm boss: *receive an hit about 40 millions of damage the boss: I'm still alive (90% hp left) is ridiculous how honkai impact needs to deal that lot of damage 💀💀💀
Genshin relies on elemental reactions so even if you play a old character, they are still useful so long as they can deal reactions. Meanwhile in HI3, you cannot play outdated characters on Arena & Abyss due to powercreep.
@@dr_titania you could apply that same excuse to honkai, valkyrie chariot could be usefull because of her gather or yamabuki for impair, that's not a good point
@@kokomidanoporbeleza7558imagine filling a slot with gather or impair when HoS does both and deals 3x dmg than both Bronyas combined. If that's not powercreep idk what is
@@TheRealShyShadow since GI and HsR don't have any competitive between player so the dmg inflation ain't come as fas. I remember back then in GGZ , in the same year, at Jan , an auto rifle that deal 90k dmg per shot is borderline hack , at Dec, an auto rifle that failed to deal 10m dmg per shot is borderline trash :'v
Yeah xD I saw screenshots from ppl who do meta in GGZ of 1Quintillion dmg in a short time (theres a stage in GGZ that lets you test the dmg and shows you numbers and timer, the guy did 1.910.081.698.043.765.760 DMG in 6 seconds)
@@nemubenzene9138 Literally me. I play on PC using a controller, I sometimes click too aggressively that usually when I use my Ice Team, right after HoHE entered using QTE, Kira then started to ult and I facepalm myself after that...
To everyone talking about ER, its kind of an unfair comparison, since u get chara buffs and signets which significantly boost ur dmg output, would be better to compare it to Simulated universe (but genshin doesn't have that sorta mode lol). But yes honkai needs highest dmg by far (just off pure numbers). Just so we're clear that i know what ER entails, ive been active and playing honkai impact since day 1 of the SEA server. And its by far one of my fav games
For HI3, best I did was about 21 mil (yes that much) in the Elysian Realm with the Herrscher of Human, Buffs with Core 2 with Kevin, FuHua, Gresio, Vill V, and Sakura. All fully geared Elysia. I was battling Mobius and while 21 mil took down about 1/3 of her health bar, she still had like 7 more bars left. This was on 2.25x (Abstinence).
Highest number I'm almost positive of seeing (numbers hard to read sometimes lol) is around 240m with HoFi. Blessing of Final Moon with enough buff stacks is just stupid (like when you finish off the current wave with ult initial hit and Final Moon wipes out the next wave as it spawns so you basically just skip a wave).
the most difficult game among the 3 is definitely Honkai Impact, because their signature weapons are always important more than the stigmata's to maintain and deal more dmg but difficult to get, while genshin and star rail both have the same grinding mechanics for which is easy to obtain, and honkai impact has the highest dmg dealt that even 1m dmg is just a normie number and the highest which can reach 100B+ but only in Elysian Realm
Tbf for the comparison between genshin and baby honkai, you did a boss who has huge dmg reduction when down vs a "normal boss", maybe comparing to the doomsday beast who also has a huge dmg reduction when down would've been better?
It's the same. Let me explain: I also did Raiden with Dehya and with 22k took less than 10% of her HP at level 90 Raiden. Then I did the dragon in HSR and my Luocha almost killed them accidentally with 50k at lvl 80 dragon. Still HSR needs less DMG to kill a boss (not taking Abyss into here) than Genshin. Maybe because it's a new game☺️
I used herrscher of finality in Elysium realm couple patches ago and one usage of her ultimate did 250 million damage on Elysia as final boss. chipped away only couple of hp bars 😫😫
End game content be like: (also included the newly swarm disaster in Star rail) Genshin: Here, 2 bosses and annoying mobs with about combined HP of 20Mil, and kill then in 3 minutes each chamber. Star rail: You get tons of buffs, tons of shits, tons of upgrades, op resonance path, the longer you go the stronger the boss... Oh yea the new boss can clone itself (My kafka did 3 mil dmg to both of them and it only took like 10%) Honkai Impact: We totally change your Valkyrie so she can be so OP that billion dps is no problem with tons of buffs... oh yea the bosses have quadrillions HP at the highest diff
BKE with AF finisher has the highest multiplier in HI3 BTW mine with senti SS TMB and griseo withe gluttony T and margrave MB and BKE in Dante TM and elysia B does 1.2 mil ish on jizo.
@@nemubenzene9138 Since that is the highest multiplier in game outside of ER, that would be the best way to compare the damage, especially because she is such an old valk and her gears are old and a lot of people own her making it more relatable. PS: type counter
@@nemubenzene9138 As a former and a current BKE main, i might not recommend you build her but if you do. she is really hard to play but boy is she fun. her gears are really needed but i wish you luck in you future BKE related endeavors
Bro I dealt 28 million to the flying mrch boss in elysian realm. It wasnt even highest difficulty( I was doing 2.25) and it barely took away like what 1-2 bars?
As a lvl 88 in Red Lotus (sometimes Nirvana) I'm always like "I DID 2.6M WYM THAT'S 3/4 OF ONE HP BAR????" ER is just...45M DMG to a mob and it still has half HP left💀
I think HSR is the middle ground between the other two. In normal gameplay we do thousands of damage, like in Genshin. Then we go to simulated universe and do millions of damage like in Honkai.
I remember those days in old ER with old mobius signet i dealed max dmg with my BKE that used abyss flower it was like -2 and idk what comes after 2 it was so good but elysia was still alive ☠️
I miss those old days where all the FC were still alive, but also Kallen and Bella were hell in 130-150D💀 I want to go back tho, for the sake of simping an alive sim (Kalpas)
my yoimiya can solo raiden boss yes but, my 4/4 HoO can't even solo bosses in ER💀 casually deals 6M-9M and it's still not going to one-shot the bosses lmao while in genshin if i got that dmg i would be screaming giggling twirling my hair fr
I can solo Raiden with my Qiqi💀 But my HoRb died 7 times to Kevin just yesterday because that man is way to stronk, even tho I was dealing 42M+ per CA to him😭
Hsr is not even a year yet but still,its turn base game after all Just wait about more years it will reach the phase where player just gonna stack massive amount of buff and oneshot the enemy, thats just a normal turn base game
You can use misteln to get more damage, by using charge attack in Astra body with Seele support or Senti Chan and gresio or Prometheus can get 1 million damage....😬
Sure, let me just *whales to get Hare and 4/4 Seele* Edit: Also, my PE usually deals 2.6 million DMG but Jizo has A LOT of resistance, have you ever done that boss or...?💀
@@nemubenzene9138 yup that is my formation for fight jizo SSS this week in memorials arena. Also sorry I forgot, I also activated the Devine key for physical and burst damage bonus.
Let's just say... Elysian Realm is just an existence of you dreaming your damage can be like that My 1/4 HoRb dealt 30m+ damage in Abstinence difficulty
Yeah, ER makes our Valks stronk, my 1/4 HoRb dealt 120million on 2.5x (corruption)😭 Meanwhile usually she just deals 1.5-2M outside of ER, ER makes me feel stronger, like a whale😞
HI3 is funny case because you can face enemy x8 HP but can be squishy enough while in other stages you can meet enemy with just x4 HP bar but can be tough as hell Don't forget the beta version of Warden of Towers in abyss with only single orange bar yet it make it look tanky as hell 💀
Resistances and Defence actually mean something. Until you have breach of course ... or Senti .. or Rebirth... to those two it's like "Defence ... what's that?"
One hint in ER you don't f**cked around with mod and boss somehow the *ER* mob can erase your character life existence..... And the speed of erase is probably more faster than your internet and your thinking speed(°ー°〃)
@@nemubenzene9138 let me explain In other two games you can spam enemy with billion attacks while dodging and running not to die. So the value of each attack is less important. HSR is... turn-based. Needs no skill (I mean reaction speed, obviously you need to think your tactics), pure stats so numbers matter more.
Lmao ER bosses are really smth even the mobs have 2+ million hp especially the ones with the webs and add an imaginary construct that has an I-frame coupled with a counter and god forbids if you don’t have the right signets and valk type for heimdall AND you shouldn’t do Elysia or Kevin at the end
@@nemubenzene9138 LMAOOO, And yeah some bosses have that much hp (I remember that my HoH made 11million damages on Hephaistos. (actually if the die fast it’s because elemental damages can really make high numbers)
Me, a 2 year Honkai player, went traumatized with early ER Kallen and Benares, now boss KeBin. I don't imagine the other Hoyo players can get what we suffer😭
Bro, if you're talking about that 3 millions hp boss in genshin, it just like fighting a fking 'normal enemies' in HI3rd while you're at Elysian realm floor 15
@@majorinfo1768 idk 12-3 seems impossible for me as a casual, i dont get good artifacts actually But in HI3, at least in masters, i slap a random team with craftable stigmata and can clear
More Hp doesn’t mean harder fights in almost every case genshin you really only have to worry about cooldowns and spamming M1 honkai gameplay has alot more in its combat if you want to score well like evasions for sp to be able to ult in time not to completely screw up a rotation *cough HoT* also in Elysian realm you can be limited to 1 hp and or only 17% or less of your health
Besides the abyss and some weekly bosses, genshin is pretty chill. That's why i've been playing the game for so long. If it was fast paced like honkai impact, i would've probably not even played for a full month. Same can be said for Star rail. I play it too since you don't have to run around as much. My phone is probably begging for me to end them tho because of the amount of space i need for both games 💀
@@nathanael9159 HSR is one of those games that get boring over time. I would've never said this before but the meta shifting in honkai and new bosses forcing you to use different characters actually make the game challenging and less stale. I haven't changed my team in genshin for two years and it's still capable of stomping abyss and i feel it will be the same for HSR.
for the most part all 3 games you can almost do anything with what you want without issues its only things like 2.0x+ ER Difficultly, Agony 3 & RL and Exacted MA in HI3 that will want you to have atleast decent gear good teams as Rotations are quite easy to learn (Tho ER is more about knowing if ER Weather suits your Valkyrie and knowing Signets to get for them than anything)
@@ruty6099 bro it's true that rotation team is very important, but I'm stuck in agony 2, so i just slap the enemy with my valk with random build that i think suit for that valk because i dont have many original stigma and weapons. :(
@@husainsaja2374 u should look at guides for the valks, there are alternative equipments but it won’t be good. If u use the right valks u should be able to go to agony 3. For example u can’t use Prometheus when it’s ice weather obviously, but if u use an ice team with cope equips and do the rotation somewhat right, u can at least go up to agony 3
I love different mechanics in a boss, and Honkai 3rd boss mechanics are usually the best for me. Like Otto, Jizo, MHT-3, Hephaestus, every other SSS bosses bcus it's not just beat them and that's it, but they have actual amazing mechanics (and 2 or more phases, they revive💀)😔🫶
Kallen is still one of the strongest boss if you ask me, she literally immune to all elemental damage which is pretty much all the meta character since they use elements and then with her Oath of Judash she could dish out so much damage you don't even know how tf your character died