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Which is the BEST SeaQ Homage? COMPARISON Review 

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Here's the review of the Seestern S434 SeaQ homage. As well as how it compares to the San Martin SN0007X. Which one would you choose?
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@kevjaffray
@kevjaffray Год назад
My Seestern clasp is easy to use and I have no backplay with the bezel. I chose the Seestern over the SM because: 1. It has the date, 2. The lug2lug size, 3. The applied indices and 4. The movement. I'm very pleased with it and actually prefer it on the supplied elasticated canvas strap.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
That's good to hear. Yeah the lug to lug and applied indices are big wins for the Seestern.
@bifflee3603
@bifflee3603 Год назад
0.6m l2l difference is nothing 😂
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@bifflee3603 The effective lug to lug is more like 50mm on the San Martin though.
@JamesandRibble
@JamesandRibble Год назад
That Seastern clasp is the same as used by Christopher Ward.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@JamesandRibble Thanks for the info 👍
@theelderkine
@theelderkine 8 месяцев назад
I just picked up this Seestern for $100 and am utterly blown away by the quality. Those indices are beautiful and my clasp is a breeze to adjust.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 8 месяцев назад
It's a lot of watch, for not a lot of money isn't it?
@theelderkine
@theelderkine 8 месяцев назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 💯%
@NCSheriff7
@NCSheriff7 5 месяцев назад
100$??? I prefer the upgrade version and it costs 280 Euros without Tax on aliexpress
@witchdoctaa
@witchdoctaa 4 месяца назад
100? Where from?
@wilddo33
@wilddo33 2 месяца назад
got mine for 150 and the new one for 200, for 100 it's a steal! I got not luck to catch those super sales
@justinebodlak1373
@justinebodlak1373 Год назад
I have the black and gold version as I thought this would go with more clothes and styles etc...The blue and gold is also stunning am sure. I can't believe how well this watch is made. All the edges are so smooth, the bezel and sapphire are seemless (almost too perfect if you want something slightly rugged but I have G-Shocks for that!). It is so smart and elegant and marries beauty with function. My bracelet/adjustment is perfect due to the glidelock (6.5inch wrists). I feel it's presence but don't feel weighed down. I even slept with this on my wrist last night and it didn't bother me (normally I use G-Shock 5610u or F105W as ultra light)...The crown is on the small side but I think this makes the watch more elegant, less tool like, which, alongside the sunburst dial, applied indexes and gold accents fits very well with a more dressy diver. I would totally recommend this watch to anyone who wants a smart diver of reasonable proportions for a smaller wrist (not a small watch though, for those of you with bigger wrists), with a noticeable dial and very good quality craftsmanship. I had comments from people at work straight away. I know it's not an original design of course but I am a nurse and don't have thousands to spend on watches. I am also waiting for a delivery of the Reverie diver in grey/silver (more like double the price of the Seestern), which I think will also be amazing apart from the bracelet apparently where the glidelock only work half of the way (?) due to too few links being able to fit into the clasp when tightening the bracelet. Sorry long comment but I have spent years searching for a diver you can actually wear comfortably on a small wrist and that doesn't cost huge amounts of money. Voila!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
No need to apologise for the long comment. It's great to hear that you're really enjoying the watch. They are lovely pieces. As you said the quality you're getting for the money is really good.
@adk7962
@adk7962 Год назад
Thanks for the great comparison. I think the Seestern takes this comparison all day long; although, I have a SM with their new on the fly clasp, and it’s a game changer. Also apparently this exact design was used by numerous brands back in the 60’s. Thanks again!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah these new on the fly clasps that are on AliExpress now are certainly a game changer. As I said in my review of the San Martin. So there's more than just the Wolbrook and SeaQ then?
@adk7962
@adk7962 Год назад
Yup. Apparently many companies used them. I’ve never heard of them but Helbros, Herma, Andre Bouchard, Arnex, amongst others all used the same design. So this is more like a reissue more than a Homage in my opinion.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@adk7962 Yeah I've not heard of any of them either. I think I called it more of a reissue in the video if I remember correctly.
@blink6612
@blink6612 Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR there is also a new brand: The Airain Sous-Marine.
@WristWatching
@WristWatching Год назад
Super helpful comparison! Both these watches executed some things better than the other. It’s a tough call, but I’d personally give the edge to Seestern because of the incredible value.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks. Yeah the value for money is the Seestern and the applied indices are really big pluses.
@danspanos
@danspanos Год назад
Great comparison! I'm definitely gravitating towards the Seestern, but I really wish they could have slimmed down that midcase. The applied indexes, that dynamic dial, and the shorter lug to lug with the proper female endlinks really put it over the top! I wasn't sure I'd like the gold, but after seeing your blue version, and Steve's black, I really think those are the two colors to go for.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. The proper female endlinks on the Seestern definitely make a big difference. I'm not normally someone who goes for gold either. But I really think it works well on this.
@danspanos
@danspanos Год назад
I'm not a gold guy either, but that watch looks way better with it than without. The black one kind of reminds me of my Oris 65 with the bronze bezel in a way.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@danspanos I think so too. I can see the resemblance.
@belmondo8741
@belmondo8741 Год назад
Who is Steve? Is there a video of the black dial of this watch? Could you please link it?
@ccampbell1117
@ccampbell1117 7 месяцев назад
Just got the latest version of the Seestern in blue/gold , it is beautiful, very well put together and not at all blingy , which I was a bit concerned about. The clasp is now exactly the same as the SAN Martin with the same ratchet mechanism and 2 screws on the side ( same clasp different branding) and works very well . There is no back play in the bezel which is perfectly aligned and it has the larger crown . The fully lumed bezel is a bonus and gives a fantastic show when the lights go out. Clearly Seestern/ Sugess take on board criticism quickly and make modifications ,if possible , promptly. Thank you for the review and saving me £100 on what looks like the better watch.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7 месяцев назад
It's always good to hear when brands make modifications based on customer/reviewer feedback. I'm glad you're happy with yours.
@trogpo
@trogpo Год назад
Great comparison, and, as always, fair, professional and unbiased!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks I appreciate that. I try my best to always keep it honest.
@trogpo
@trogpo Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Yea, and you are doing great job at it. As a consumer, I know I can trust your reviews completely. They truly deserve to be called HONEST watch reviews.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@trogpo That's the aim. Have you bought many watches based on mine and other reviews then?
@trogpo
@trogpo Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Bought the Proxima "perfection" based on your review, and owning a Borealis Bull Shark V2, I could appreciate your super objective review.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@trogpo What do you think of both of those then?
@RockyBergen
@RockyBergen Год назад
Seestern all day long. I have a couple of San Martins so I am a fan, but I have a Steeldive which I also like and I believe those are made in the same factory. The show is in the dial with the Sea-Q and Seestern have made that their priority while staying ahead of that San Martin as far as case shape is concerned too. Maaybe I will purchase. The price is right. I am glad Sea-Q homages are being produced now!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Yeah I'd have to agree. The Seestern truly shines (pun intended) in the important areas.
@ajmarion
@ajmarion Год назад
I went with the Seestern, but it was definitely a tough decision. I prefer the crystal, crown size, and beads of rice bracelet on the San Martin, but I really like the applied indices and the quick adjust clasp on the Seestern. If the Seestern had a 7mm+ crown, it would be perfect! Great review as always
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
What makes you prefer the clasp on the Seestern over the San Martin then?
@greg6162
@greg6162 11 месяцев назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWRwell I have the SN0111-g and the Seestern S434. Both have great clasps but the Seestern is much easier switch compared to my SM. You definitely got an unlucky because my Seestern blue/gold is one of my favorite watches atm. The bezel has the perfect resistance and has zero play and lines up perfectly. I got it this morning and resizing it and usual new watch inspecting, being impressed by how refined it felt and could put my finger on why it felt so cleanly executed. Then looking at the bracelet I was like I wonder if Cronos factory did this and San Martin did the case? Just a thought so I took the Cronos specific pins from L6005 and they fit perfectly in the Seestern bracelet. I honestly think this was a collaboration of the best bracelet and case maker for high end Ali-X watches. I know quality varies so much there but they really hit a home run with the Seestern S434, the two tone gold looks classy and puts this watch with the big boys IMO… goes so good with the gold applied indices too Edit: as far as the clasp goes I think the San Martin is too chunky and less refined. I like the clasp on my SN-0111 but I thought it should’ve been shaped and rounded off better at least on the top… and that’s what Seestern did with the S434. It’s not too much anything, just enough and just right. It’s the Goldilocks watch (for me) if they just had a bigger crown. For $160 or whatever I paid for this, it’s a bargain and offsets my Pagani-1752 Tiffany blue anger as I got them both delivered today. Yeah sorry you got a dud… I could tell in the video because the tolerances on mine are Cronos/San Martin esq
@christionk
@christionk Год назад
comeonnn....seestern seaq v2 with bor & box sapphire. great comparison review btw bro ! keep up the good work
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
That would be great. Thanks mate I appreciate that 👍
@caktaylor
@caktaylor Год назад
Ugh! I’m glad Seestern skipped the boxed crystal.
@timeintheuk
@timeintheuk Год назад
Good comparison vid very informative.great work 😊
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Cheers mate 👍
@Tz304608
@Tz304608 3 месяца назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR ​ Hello, nice review. I have a serious question for you. I love the SeaQ and I hate the non-taper bracelet. I'm thinking about putting it on a beads of rice bracelet. Do you think this bracelet will fit on the SeaQ? Thanks!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 3 месяца назад
@@Tz304608 Having not had hands on exoerience with the SeaQ, I couldn't really say, sorry.
@JasonTheWatchGuy
@JasonTheWatchGuy Год назад
Really like the gold tones on the seestern, that's what would take it for me. Do wish the crown was a bit more substantial though. It does look slightly out of place.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
I'm not normally one for gold on my watches, but I do really like this one. It's just the right amount I think.
@XjohnjohnX88
@XjohnjohnX88 Год назад
Very good and interesting comparison! I would choose the Seestern because it's more similar to the SeaQ imo, and the price. I'm a big fan of the SeaQ in rose gold with the rubber strap. I would love that Seestern making the same one. Thanks for this great comparison, James.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
There's more differences than you'd expect isn't there?
@XjohnjohnX88
@XjohnjohnX88 Год назад
Not really to be honest. But seeing them both at the same time makes all the difference. The dimensions/proportions are better on the Seestern imo. Plus the applied indexes, that's why I prefer the Seestern, even if the SM has a better clasp, finishing, etc. I've always loved comparisons. It's always interesting!
@richardlachcik5446
@richardlachcik5446 Год назад
Great review, thanks. I had already ordered the Seestern when I saw this, and glad I did. My clasp works fine, and don't mind the smaller crown. Wears great on a 6 and 3/4 inch wrist. Very impressed.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks for watching. Did you get the black and gold or this blue one?
@richardlachcik5446
@richardlachcik5446 Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR blue
@nigelbowler1601
@nigelbowler1601 Год назад
Great review the seestern wins hands down for me better looking watch alround the only issue is the bracelet but hey you can't win them all this is on my list to buy in the near future for sure.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@nigelbowler1601 Thanks. Yeah if the Seestern had the BOR bracelet that the San Martin has, that would make it even better.
@cedarcanoe
@cedarcanoe Год назад
I have been eyeing the Seestern recently but didn’t pull the trigger. Glad I didn’t because the San Martin pleases me more after your review. Thanks!!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
I'm glad it was helpful. Any reason in particular you prefer the San Martin?
@cedarcanoe
@cedarcanoe Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR it’s strange jn fact (but that’s sometimes how it is with watches). What pleases me about the Seestern is its case size and the applied numbers. Case shape, bracelet I like better on the San Martin. In general the proportion of the watch is better on the SM Imo.
@astrobusa
@astrobusa 5 месяцев назад
Excellent review. I bought the Seestern via your affiliate link. Thanks !
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 5 месяцев назад
Thank you very much. Which colour did you go for?
@astrobusa
@astrobusa 5 месяцев назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWRthe black.
@redmond38
@redmond38 Год назад
Both gorgeous watches. If i could have the Seestern dial and gilt elements in the san Martin casei would be a very happy man
@Valvey789
@Valvey789 Год назад
The shallower dial and box crystal lends the SM a more premium look and more closely resembles the original. The printed indices mess it all up, though.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
So which one would you lean towards then?
@Valvey789
@Valvey789 Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I think I would wait for v2
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@Valvey789 Fair enough.
@dannycph
@dannycph Год назад
The SM is perfect, case shape, lug to lug, dimension, bracelet, boxed sapphire crystal, movement……but it deserves the applied numerals, such a shame, hopefully there will come a V2.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@dannycph The lug to lug is a bit deceptive though, with that midlink.
@watchalot919
@watchalot919 Год назад
I rate both brands, but in this case the SM is the better watch
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Any particular reason why?
@watchalot919
@watchalot919 Год назад
Nicer size, better movement, better bracelet and clasp
@BAF605
@BAF605 Год назад
The Seestern package overall is best and the much lower price makes it a clear winner for me. I've never been convinced that SM finish is all some make it to be in any case. My shillometer sometimes drifts into the red. I'll put one in my basket and price watch.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
For the price especially, the Seestern is a bit of a bargain I think.
@daveindevon5240
@daveindevon5240 Год назад
Couldn't agree more. The Seestern is not just the better watch but far better value too. Typical price for an NH35 on AE is around £25 while the PT5000 can be bought from a reputable AE seller for under £39. Companies will pay even less, so no justification for the huge price differential. I think SM are over priced and overrated, relying far to much on good finishing to justify their high prices. On wrist, this won't even be that apparent. I'll always rate design higher than finishing, as that's why you buy the watch and it's what you notice the most when wearing it.
@caktaylor
@caktaylor Год назад
I also agree with you on the apparent devotion that some people have to San Martin. I have two San Martin watches and while the quality is very good, my Seestern and Sugess watches are every bit equal to the San Martins. I find my San Martins “edgy” when handling them.
@catlike1
@catlike1 Год назад
I picked up the Seestern during the recent Aliexpress sale. Liking it so far, but I found some of the bracelet screws almost impossible to remove. They were stuck in very tight. The level of fit and finishing is okay--solid but not as good as say a Seiko or Citizen. I agree the on-the-fly clasp adjustment is a bit finicky and the mechanism feels a bit cheap. And I wish the crown were a bit bigger. But overall still a very good value.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Yeah you can't really complain too much given the value for money can you?
@rioriggs3568
@rioriggs3568 Год назад
I would go for the Seestern, but I'm waiting for V2 or V3 with their beautiful wave case back and larger crown with sea star logo.
@ragnarone5409
@ragnarone5409 Год назад
I absolut agree.
@rioriggs3568
@rioriggs3568 Год назад
Seriously that case back is nicer than anything Seiko and most watch manufacturers have ever made. I also love their branding with the sea star. I would make the Seestern logo (on the dial) just a little larger on all their watches but the rest is pretty perfect IMO.
@earllangcay6637
@earllangcay6637 2 месяца назад
seestern knocked it right out of the park with this one
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 2 месяца назад
Absolutely. It's still one of my favourites.
@earllangcay6637
@earllangcay6637 2 месяца назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR planning to buy opne in the nxt aliexpress sale. what are the cons to that one though if you dont mind.
@mpenny2008
@mpenny2008 10 месяцев назад
Version 2 out on Seestern. Now has larger crown 😊
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 10 месяцев назад
That's good to hear. Are you looking to get one then?
@mpenny2008
@mpenny2008 10 месяцев назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR yes but can't decide which colour I keep changing my mind
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 10 месяцев назад
@@mpenny2008 I don't think you can really go wrong with any of them to be honest.
@lockhandle8276
@lockhandle8276 Год назад
excellent review! keep them coming!!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thank you. If you haven't seen it, I've also uploaded this review yesterday as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SJEjqyVz8_c.html.
@commentjedi
@commentjedi Год назад
Seestern from the front. SM from the sides.
@marksaxby607
@marksaxby607 7 месяцев назад
I've just ordered a black and gold Seestern. I didn't know about the SM, but I wouldn't have picked it over the Seestern anyway, primarily because of the printed dial versus the applied markers, they really lift the Seestern.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7 месяцев назад
Having applied indices definitely takes it to another level I think.
@HaonProductions
@HaonProductions Год назад
If it had a solid back to shave off some millimeters from the thickness, I think the Seestern would be a solid winner despite its shortcomings. As it is, it's a bit close.
@stevehenrytagami4709
@stevehenrytagami4709 Год назад
I cannot resist the black and gold of the Seestern , despite the inferior clasp and bracelet. A hundred quid difference is not nothing .
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Others have said that their clasp isn't as bad as mine. So you might be alright. The price does make a difference too. Please consider using my affiliate link if you do end up getting it. It doesn't cost you any extra
@ccampbell1117
@ccampbell1117 7 месяцев назад
Ps just found the San Martin clasp as used by Seestern on my version on Ali express for around £50 delivered inc uk tax. Puts the value for money into perspective .
@stavros_katsopr
@stavros_katsopr Год назад
Seestern all the way mate. In black and gilt for me. Ok, and maybe with a beads of rice bracelet... LOL Thanks for the comparison James, realy helpful mate, cheers.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Andrew people have said they'd like it even more with a BOR bracelet... I also agree.
@roydoorenspleet1548
@roydoorenspleet1548 Год назад
The Douglas/Wolbrook predates the SeaQ ;)
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks for the info 👍
@timault9420
@timault9420 4 месяца назад
I would love to know if these bracelets are interchangeable. I would like to see the seestern on a beads of rice!
@Tom_Kowalczuk
@Tom_Kowalczuk Год назад
San Martin with Seestern dial and movement would hit all the boxes. SM case looks very similar to 62mas IMHO.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
If you could mix and match then I think you'd be able to get a pretty much perfect watch. Yeah the case on the San Martin is very similar to that of the 62MAS they do.
@caktaylor
@caktaylor Год назад
I expect it is the same case with just a different dial and bracelet.
@jb678901
@jb678901 7 месяцев назад
In my view, the Seestern 435 is a closer homage to the SeaQ, with the dial dimensions and applied indices, lack of drilled out lugs, and domed crystal (which differs from the Seestern 434v2). The 435 also comes with the SeaGull ST2130-B movement, as opposed to the Seestern 434v2 with its SI NH35A. The 435 does have a unique/signed crown...which deviates as a homage from the SeaQ's uniformly-cylindrical and signed crown. I went for the Seestern 435 S.S. in blue for about $200, delivered. Great deal, considering the specs on this AliExpress watch.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I'd agree with you there. It's definitely a great deal.
@jb678901
@jb678901 6 месяцев назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Side note...technically, the Glashutte Original SeaQ is arguably a homage of the "Le Forban Securite Mer" that had been originally introduced in 1966 for the French Navy, a few years prior to the vintage East German (GDR) produced Glashutte (GUB) diver from that era. Therefore, the SeaQ is also, technically, a homage...and the Seestern S434/435 is either a homage or a homage of a homage.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 6 месяцев назад
@@jb678901 Ah ok. Thanks for the information. That'll be handy for people who say they don't like homages 😉
@bwallace4241
@bwallace4241 Год назад
I'd take the nh35 over the pt5000, even with the lower hz. In addition, the Seestern has applied indices vs printed... and all for a substantial cost savings.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
The Seestern is great value for money. The applied indices take it to another level as well.
@angelherrera6820
@angelherrera6820 Год назад
I have a soft spot for Seestern but this Seestern just does it for me. San Martin is no slouch when it comes to their watches but I'd rather have the Seestern. Both are great watches though. My rwo cents. Cheers!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
It is quite a looker isn't it?
@markkuzminski3922
@markkuzminski3922 Год назад
I am considering the Black and Gilt Seestern in the next Ali Express sale - the applied indeces are a critical difference here . I prefer its overall sizing and the fact that is has a date complication. I also like that it doesn't have any gold links on the bracelet. The value for money is superior too. I would happily pay a little extra for a beads of rice bracelet - I still think it would wear well on the Seestern. I like the drilled lugs on the San Martin though. Was there much of a difference in the quality of the steel finishing?
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Yeah the applied indices make a really big difference don't they? I think for the price you're getting a lot. I'd say that the steel finish is pretty similar.
@Watchatete
@Watchatete Год назад
Nice review. Both watches have their drawbacks. Clasp of the Seestern and absence of applied indecies on the San Martin/ Will be waiting for ver II o the San Martin. but liked your video.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks I'm glad you liked it.
@echochambers8418
@echochambers8418 8 месяцев назад
Both have pros & cons.Id rather have the nh35,and the dial seems better with no distortion on the S434 & better lume and fit(for me)I like the SM Bracelet,clasp and drilled lugs better though.So,I’d call them about even,depending on what you prefer.
@musik4u343
@musik4u343 Год назад
Gray comparison I'm still stuck between one or the other. There are pros and cons to both of them I wish the seestern had a larger crown, 12mm or thinner and a no date option
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. Yeah there's definitely pros and cons to both. But I don't think you can go wrong with either really.
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 Год назад
Hmmm, the SM has weird dimensions for a "small" watch. Really nicely made though, like one would expect. But I'd go Seestern for the more reliable movement and applied indices.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
That was the biggest shock to me... Pun intended 😉
@shawn1928
@shawn1928 Год назад
Nice comparison review. Tough choice...Seestern, I just can't get past the undersized crown however
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Cheers. Yeah it is a bit under sized for the case, but functionally it's not an issue at least.
@shawn1928
@shawn1928 Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR that's good to know
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. Год назад
I think the Seestern has the better proportions compared to the San Martin. I quite like how the date window is integrated and I prefer the applied numerals. Well I'm never a fan of the two-tone look and I think the gilted crown on the Seestern cheapens the look a little. But fortunately they offer regular stainless steel versions. Besides I don't have a lot of confidence in the PT5000 movements.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
The proportions on the Seestern are certainly more logical. Some of the San Martin ones are a little odd.
@watch-box
@watch-box Год назад
TBH id have an NH movement over a PT5000 every time (cheaper to service/replace, more refined, less issues) - and the £100 difference is a hard sell for a watch so similar. The clasp being the only 'win' for the SM is not worth the extra cost. Infact even at the same price I would be more tempted by the Seestern. Thanks for sharing your thoughts - love the comparison videos.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
I get what you're saying. I've personally not had any issues with PT5000 movements myself. But I know that some have. Also like you say it's a big price difference too. The Seestern dial just pops more with those applied indices too.
@karlsenula9495
@karlsenula9495 Год назад
I like the look of the Seestern better EXCEPT for the gold crown and gold edge to the bezel - is there an option without that??? Crown size would also be better larger like the San Martin. Movement could go both ways ... some prefer the reliability and ease of servicing a NH35 others prefer the more premium feel of the PT5000.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Yes they have other options that don't have the gold. The link to the watch is in the video description. I always include all of the relevant links there.
@caktaylor
@caktaylor Год назад
I voted with my wallet and purchased the Seestern in blue. I don’t think the San Martin is worth the premium, especially since the PT5000 comes with a ghost date and the indices are printed. After watching your video, I checked my watch and I don’t have any problems with the clasp or the bezel. So, I guess there is a bit of room for improvement when it comes to consistency at Seestern.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
I'm glad yours is alright. I must have just gotten a bit unlucky then. With the on-thefly adjustment, perhaps it'll improve over time.
@heydrey4020
@heydrey4020 Год назад
thorough. appreciate the work u put in doing the vid
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thanks. I hope it was helpful.
@andrewlevett4274
@andrewlevett4274 Год назад
I wish they did the Seestern in black with fauxtina indices and bezel, if they did I would buy it and wear it on a tropical strap.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Interesting... People normally say they don't like fauxtina when I review a watch that has it.
@andrewlevett4274
@andrewlevett4274 Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Still might go for the black steel or pay more for a Wolbrook. One of the USA reviewers is going to do a comparison on a Seestern and Wolbrook.
@multipl3
@multipl3 Год назад
Great comparison. Shame the seestern didn’t go for beads of rice though the bracelet still looks great. The price is mind blowing!! With regards to the OTF adjustment clasps, I think your seestern just needs breaking in and will get smoother. Your short nails don’t help either lol. I bought the Pelagos homage from San Martin and I don’t like the fact it operates in the opposite direction and isn’t as nice to use even though it’s better engineered. I just preferred the seestern/sugess clasps
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Thank you. Yeah a BOR bracelet would have been really nice. Yeah I'm hoping it gets better with time too 🤞
@cmc6040
@cmc6040 7 месяцев назад
I think they're both too small for my 8.5 inch wrist but will probably take a chance witt the seastern. I just love how it looks. Hope it wont look too small on me!!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7 месяцев назад
It's definitely worth a try, isn't it? Which colour are you thinking of going for then?
@cmc6040
@cmc6040 7 месяцев назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR the blue one, I think.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7 месяцев назад
@@cmc6040 I don't think you can really go wrong with either to be honest. They both look really good.
@daresome1
@daresome1 Год назад
See stern dial and San Martin bracelet, and while we’re wishing, add a Tandorio price and I’m in.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Now that would be something special 😉
@gorillasinthewrist
@gorillasinthewrist Год назад
This is a close call, I’d lean towards the SeeStern
@watchalot919
@watchalot919 6 месяцев назад
The San Martin has better dimensions, better aesthetics, and a nicer bracelet, however I have had a few bad experiences with the PT5000. Ummm
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 6 месяцев назад
Most people seem to prefer the Seestern. I find myself wearing that one more too. I think it's the long lugs on the San Martin that I'm not so keen on.
@sivanstar
@sivanstar Год назад
Seestern all day every day. But it does have flaws. A bigger crown Better action on the clasp Beads of rice bracelet would've elevated it to a new level For me the magor flaw is the size, i have a larger wrist and would've preferred 40+mm. Anyways well done seestern, sometimes they miss but getting better..
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
What size wrist do you have?
@sivanstar
@sivanstar Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7.5 but i crushed my wrist twice and go for larger sizes and loose fit..
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
@@sivanstar Ah ok. That makes sense.
@cmc6040
@cmc6040 7 месяцев назад
​@@sivanstarsorry to hear that. Hope all is ok now. I've an 8.5" wrist and am not sure if this would look ok on me.
@sivanstar
@sivanstar 7 месяцев назад
@@cmc6040 since this review came out they did upgrade some things with the v2. i think my perfect size is 40mm, i do own a couple of watches under and really wish both were bigger. one is the phoibos voyager v3, that watch is stunning imo. the other is a pedral artifact one of one i was gifted by the brand owner and that watch is something very special. you probebly know that people used to wear much smaller watches, men and women. what im trying to say, that if you like it that much just get it and enjoy it. but i would recommend of trying out something similar in size first just to see how its on your wrist..
@rioriggs3568
@rioriggs3568 10 месяцев назад
Can we get the Seestern dial with the San Martin case?
@mpenny2008
@mpenny2008 Год назад
Tempted to get seestern with gold trim. But concerned the gold will wear off??
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Obviously, I can't comment on the longevity of it... But so far it seems to be holding up pretty well.
@felo6035
@felo6035 Год назад
Great comparison, James. I prefer the Seestern, which I actually own. I only wish it had come with beads of rice, but no big deal as I can swap. Believe it or not I also prefer the NH35. As for the clasp on the Seestern, mine seems to operate a little easier than yours. Thank you again James for sharing your thoughts.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
That's good to hear that your clasp is a bit smoother in operation. Thanks for watching mate 👍
@felo6035
@felo6035 Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 🙌
@thegorn
@thegorn 10 месяцев назад
Is this the v1 or v2 model? Apparently the v2 has a bigger crown. Thanks for the review. I'm probably going to pull the trigger on the Seestern with the blue+gilt. When I get it in, I'll experiment to see if the "Christopher Ward C63 Sealander Bader- 39mm" bracelet will fit on it... I love to experiment like that.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 10 месяцев назад
This is the V1, with the smaller crown. Thanks for watching mate. If you do end up getting one, please consider using my affiliate link, as it does help to support the channel. But you don't pay any extra.
@babayaga8513
@babayaga8513 Год назад
I like Seestern...but also am worried that the plating part of the watch will wear out..😅
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Only time will tell I guess.
@briancolyer8483
@briancolyer8483 Год назад
Neither for me, as they are! But if SS used the NH 38 and the SM bracelet then that would be a winner....🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Fair enough. Perhaps they might do something like that for a version 2.
@jlarsson1978
@jlarsson1978 Год назад
The Seestern bezel didn't look aligned to me.
@falcorf5242
@falcorf5242 Год назад
It looks different in person. That´s why.
@othnielmalcolm7410
@othnielmalcolm7410 Год назад
Seestern!
@snapfitness1
@snapfitness1 Год назад
In your opinion whats the largest wrist size each could fit?
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
I'm not sure really. You'd have to measure your wrist width and then compare it to the lug to lug measurement and see what you think.
@cmc6040
@cmc6040 7 месяцев назад
​@@HonestWatchReviewsHWRI'm hoping the bigger 'face' of the seastern works for me. Dial size Vs lug to lug I always go for dial size when choosing......
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 7 месяцев назад
@@cmc6040 🤞
@ulig12
@ulig12 Год назад
I think the San Martin looks a bit odd and disproportionate, a heavily shrunk SeaQ-like dial in a 62mas like case? 90 click bezels are also a no-no.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
The proportions are unusual on the San Martin.
@OnlytestWatch
@OnlytestWatch Год назад
El Seestern es mucho más bonito. 👌
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Obtiene algunas de las cosas clave justo sobre el San Martín, ¿no es así?
@OnlytestWatch
@OnlytestWatch Год назад
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR en total acuerdo. 👌
@Anirossa
@Anirossa 3 месяца назад
The seagull version of the Seestern wears much much better
@jcchoong
@jcchoong 2 месяца назад
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 2 месяца назад
Which one do you prefer then?
@Emmepi37
@Emmepi37 Год назад
Seestern, not fan of BoR SM bracelet
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
Oh ok. Fair enough. Most people seem to want a BOR on the Seestern.
@MeriBadger
@MeriBadger Год назад
wtf is a 90 click bezel even for?
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
I don't know.
@Zonediver
@Zonediver Год назад
I never buy a Seestern watch again... the QC is bad and the Support is not present 👎 No recommendation!
@Stigismo
@Stigismo 6 месяцев назад
Why are you whispering what are you afraid of
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 6 месяцев назад
I record videos whilst someone in the next room is asleep, as they work nights. Plus I'm just a quiet person generally anyway.
@Johnmk24
@Johnmk24 Год назад
I could never wear a watch with a ridiculous, nonsensical name like: Seestern, Berny, Rdunae, Tandorio. So, easily San Martin.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад
That's fair enough.
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