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Which keyboard should you buy? - The Ergonomic Journey 

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@n0kodoko143
@n0kodoko143 Год назад
Completely blown away with this video. Great job highlighting strengths of your competitors as well as your own keyboards (also, I want aware that you have an ortholinear option 😉)
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you for your comment! We are always trying to show the bigger picture on the Ergonomic Journey and this can't be shown without considering all these great products ❤️
@sharonhughes293
@sharonhughes293 Год назад
This is the best video that I've seen on this topic and I was shocked when I realized you actually were a keyboard company. I really appreciate you going through the range of keyboards from various manufacturers honestly. I have a logi 860 and still get shoulder pain but was concerned about he learning curve of some of the choices and I think I'll miss my 10-key. But I will definitely check out Dygma after this video.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you! We really want to bring as much information as possible to our videos and our community! Many of our users suffered from shoulder pain too and got better with the split and tented design of the Raise 🎉🎉🎉
@stephenkitto5782
@stephenkitto5782 2 года назад
I love that you take the time to acknowledge your competition, and while you still point out why you feel your keyboards are better, you don't just act like they're complete trash. I got a Moonlander earlier this year and have loved it! I do wish it tented more though.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
They are fantastic manufacturers, pretty sure they think similar about us. In the end, we're just some weirdos trying to convince the world that our weirder keyboards are better, we should stick together 😂 Other than that, glad to hear you're enjoying the Moonlander. About the tenting, probably there's someone on reddit who has a DIY fix for the angle, we had a lot of solutions for our model from the community, so something along the laine probaly exists aleady 😉
@batmanonabike3119
@batmanonabike3119 Год назад
Me too. Just wish it was wireless
@batmanonabike3119
@batmanonabike3119 Год назад
They've added a new tenting attachment since I bought mine. You can add a LOT more lean to the Moonlander now. You might want to check it out.
@Pepperpot666
@Pepperpot666 2 года назад
One of the most important feature of Dygma-keyboards is that you support ISO-keyboard-setups, like a german keyboard-setup. On top of that, you are also an European company, so no more import taxes, etc.
@llewellynross
@llewellynross 2 года назад
*cries in brexit*
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
ISO users have a hard time finding models, let alone finding keys for their languages. We missed some key distributions, such as Latin American or Italian, but we do our best 😅
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
We feel you. In fact, we had Dygmates that purchased their Raise during the Brexit week, those were tough, and some of them were pretty angry with us for a moment, until they realized what Brexit did for them 😥
@miramallo30
@miramallo30 2 года назад
@@DygmaLab Spilt keyboards, especially when tilted, nearly make touchtyping mandatory. That renders nearly irrelevant what's written on the keys. I used an US layout Kinesis Advantage with German keyboard driver with no issues for over a decade. Your fingers don't have eyes and do not mind the wrong letters written on the keys. And by the way, you learn touchtyping much faster if there is the wrong pattern on the keys, even better, if there is nothing written on the keys. Thus, my first choice always would be a keyboard with clean keycaps.
@Mcdude22
@Mcdude22 9 месяцев назад
@@miramallo30this is a good assessment. Once you’re working with split boards, the defaults make no difference. Touch typing means you can make every key whatever you want, in fact I won’t usually buy a split keyboard without ensuring I’ll have blank keycaps as an option. Anyone needing non-standard layouts, whether it’s a language thing or a custom layout thing, split programmable keyboards will set you free. I use standard US English keyboards, and my layout is still more custom than nearly anything else out there, so anyone needing ISO layout support will have *no* issues with this kind of keyboard, so long as they’re willing to do some customization
@knwilbanks
@knwilbanks 3 месяца назад
Yes, great video. I am beginning my journey to transition and it has definitely sold me on the Dygma! Thank you.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your support! We hope your experience with your Dygma keyboard is awesome! 🙌
@Mcdude22
@Mcdude22 9 месяцев назад
This video is a near perfect primer to entering the world of enthusiast keyboards. The only advice I’d give to anyone watching, avoiding row stagger is *so* much more important than the video suggests. Columnar or ortholinear layouts make a bigger difference than the rest of the options combined for typing comfort. Reaching the y key without taking your right hand off the homerow or the b key without removing either hand from the home row highlights this really clearly! Columnar/ortholinear largely solves the reach issue for most keys, and I’d go so far as to say buying any keyboard over $80 that doesn’t have this feature is a waste of money. This video is a perfect overview of the options out there, but if you want advice, make sure no matter what you buy, you try to find something without row stagger. I’ve got what you would probably consider close to the extreme end of the split keyboard enthusiast options, and I’d give it all up before I went back to row stagger.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 9 месяцев назад
We agree that columnar is much comfortable than staggered, but sometimes jumping straight to a split, programmable columnar keyboard might be too much, and then you go back to a normal keyboard. And that's worse than using a split row-staggered keyboard for some time before making the jump to columnar 😊
@Mcdude22
@Mcdude22 9 месяцев назад
I don’t disagree that going from basic to high end enthusiast isn’t for everyone, but split row stagger and split columnar isn’t much different, so I would be hard pressed to tell someone to spend money on a high end keyboard that’s still row stagger. No matter what you’re doing full touch typing. If you can already do that, columnar takes an afternoon to adapt to, and if you can’t, split row stagger will be just as brutal as split columnar. Avoiding row stagger is *the* reason to move away from standard keyboards, in my experience, it’s just that most people don’t realize this until they experience it themselves. Anyone spending more than $60 on a keyboard shouldn’t be settling for row stagger
@billcousins6882
@billcousins6882 2 года назад
Glad to see Dominique becoming more involved with Dygma again.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
She's our official spokesperson 🥰
@notacooldudewithanattitude2731
@notacooldudewithanattitude2731 2 года назад
The amount of research the Dygma team does is fire!!! Listening to your community is just one way of saying, "We care about your ideas and we are we with you all the way. Welcome home." This brief comparo makes it easier for everyone to decide which is the best product in the market to date. Wonder when will Dygma get their Red Dot design award. #DygmaForRedDot
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Thanks a lot! We felt like this content was missing for everyone who would be interested in ergonomic keyboards, so we just posted it to share our experience and views. Seemingly this is helping a lot, so we'll try to put some more conten along the line. Thought the Red Dot will help, the best prize is the recognition from the users, thanks a lot for the support!
@hermes8258
@hermes8258 Год назад
@@DygmaLab And you have to be a Singapore company, yes?
@PianoHaiku
@PianoHaiku Месяц назад
I just pre-ordered the Dygma Raise 2, shortly after watching this video and looking into your company. Despite already owning a mechanical keyboard, a friend introduced me to ergonomic keyboards a few days ago and I have been doing research since. Every youtube channel seems to be talking about the same 3 brands, but I wasn't convinced by any of them. I had heard of Dygma but hadn't really looked into your products yet, but found this video to be so informative and well put together that I started binging all the content in your channel. I think what really caught my attention is how there seems to be a sense of community here as well as on Discord and Reddit, and your videos all have a good sense of humor. So after checking the product on your website and seeing it ticks all my boxes, it was a no-brainer. I really liked the level of customization you offer when ordering as well! I can't wait to get my hands on the Raise 2, literally :D
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Месяц назад
Thank you so much and welcome to the club!! We try to make videos that are helpful and entertaining even for people that don't own our keyboards 🥰
@Mateusz-xr9qw
@Mateusz-xr9qw Год назад
I love the humour in dygma films. I am tracking dygma progress for 4-5 years and I am thinking 2023 is finally the time to buy dygma defy. I dont like the price, but if something is good it needs to cost, and the features you have included in your product definitely are the 'wet dream' of professionals who spend long days in front of keyboard doing their job.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Nice! Let us know if there's something we could help you with to make that decision 💪
@ryanjohnston7917
@ryanjohnston7917 2 года назад
I would say the last part of the Ergonomic journey is hand wiring a custom made Ergo board like a Dactyl manuform. I personally can't wait to get my Defy though ;)
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
It could be, but as tech evolves, we hope we can create more and more steps and create unseen things. We don't know what future holds, but we're eager to find out 😊 We're working our a***s off to deliver the Defy in time!
@sqwert654
@sqwert654 2 года назад
3d printing the board to suit my hand size is a good way to go. Also cheap if you have a 3d printer
@FrankPloegman
@FrankPloegman 2 года назад
The end of my keyboard ergonomic journey is the Dygma Defy with an integrated trackball. Unfortunately the latter is not available yet, but I'm more than happy with the Defy without trackball. Hopefully I will receive my new toy/tool next January ☺
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
We hope to add steps even further than the Defy in the future 😉 As for the trackball, we considered it for a while, but it took so much space from the thumb cluster and was detrimental for left handed users, so we decided against. Design always means compromise, and this time it did not go your way 😋 Thanks for the suggestion and let's hope we can deliver the Defy in no time!
@FrankPloegman
@FrankPloegman 2 года назад
@@DygmaLab I'm excited to see what Dygma has in store for us and am also hoping for a finger-operated trackball add-on module. I imagine a Ploopy Nano which can be attached to left of the 'H' key (or to the right of 'G' for lefties) which will seamlessly interface with the existing hardware and software. For example activate mouse layer when trackball is manipulated and communicate through the same connection used by the keyboard.
@mattherndon9317
@mattherndon9317 2 года назад
What I’d really love is not a trackball, but that little red nubbin that old IBM laptops had. I wonder if maybe patents or lack of parts makes that impossible. Still an integrated trackball or pad would be great. Keymouse tried this, but their implementation seems like it had some issues.
@FrankPloegman
@FrankPloegman 2 года назад
@@mattherndon9317 In case you're interested, Jan Lunge integrated a trackpoint in a Dactyl Manuform, see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-95etDQ0I-Ls.html.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
That will have to wait quite a while, tbh. We've set that project on stand by until we can find a proper solutions, the ones we tested were not cutting it in terms of comfort 😅
@DrifterGaming
@DrifterGaming 9 месяцев назад
Set playback speed to 1.25x. Thank me later 🫰
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 9 месяцев назад
We watch all videos like that 😅
@kcm0059
@kcm0059 13 дней назад
Thank you, perfect speed for this video.
@BenVallack
@BenVallack 2 года назад
This is a hard video to make, well done! I’ve tried outlining something like this for a while but it’s hard to keep concise. Thanks for the link :)
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
It makes us really happy that you liked it. Coming from you, it's a real honor 😊 Finding a balance between being instructive and easy to watch was pretty tricky. We feel like we've tiptoed over essential topics, but we hope we got the main point across 😅
@c9k
@c9k Год назад
I think the confidence you show by holding off mentioning your board for so long has sold me on a Defy.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
The idea of the video was to show that evolution, and the models on each of the steps 🥰 We're happy to have you with us now!
@sowmitradassumit5788
@sowmitradassumit5788 Год назад
This is the best video on ergonomic keyboards on the internet... PERIOD.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you! We work hard to have great content that's also fun to watch ❤️
@11202
@11202 2 года назад
I love that the TinTin poster is proudly on display in the background. Fond childhood memories of going to the library and reading the comics over and over. Also can’t wait to get a Dygma once the feature set gets just right 👌
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
We have some more posters to display, if you have some more suggestions, we'd love to hear. I mean, we need a good reason to charge more posters to the company 😂😂
@elysion7240
@elysion7240 2 года назад
I really needed this video. But still can't decide if I want to go for the Raise or Defy. Kinda just want to get the Defy but I am worried that I'll have trouble adjusting. And I don't want to spend even more money on another keyboard to ease that transition. Please keep posting videos!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
It depends on your needs and current skillset. For instance, coming from regular keyboards, the transition to the Raise feels almost effortless. Probably, the biggest thing you have to consider is this: with the Raise you can use it as an standard keyboard, with the Defy, you MUST give a lot of use to the thumbkeys, that's probably the thing you have to keep in mind.
@xodragonlostxo
@xodragonlostxo 2 года назад
I'm not a great typist but changing to a columnar KB wasn't too bad. About a week to adjust and it actually improved my typing. Just thought I would throw that out there even though I don't have a Dygma as the layout wasn't available 2 years ago but the one I have is not split so I kind of regret that. Still the columnar layout did help a lot regarding pain in my hands if not my shoulders lol
@natk1105
@natk1105 11 месяцев назад
You talked about tenting but didn't mention negative tilt. From what I've read, it seems like this is one of the key ergonomic features to consider, especially for standing desk users. Would love to see a video about this.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 11 месяцев назад
You're right. Luckily, we cover reverse tilting in this two other videos ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OSiu66ITd5Y.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UAjCgaP_jNw.html 😊
@Cal97g
@Cal97g Год назад
Nobody has actually made a video on which one of these keyboards are good buying options - crazy! Thanks
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
No problem! We just want to help everyone considering ergo keyboards 🥰
@Sil3nC4
@Sil3nC4 2 года назад
Another important feature is a software to quickly and easily change the configuration/layers of your keyboard. Installing, configuring and flashing QMK/VIA/VIAL is a non-trivial task, even for technical people.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
We're aware of it and we try to make Bazecor asuser-friendly as possible. For the past months our goal has been making the software as friendly as possible instead of adding more features. Thanks for the input!
@xodragonlostxo
@xodragonlostxo 2 года назад
I feel this. I have never been able to customize my KB as it uses QMK and I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm scared to death i will do something wrong and then I have no more KB at all lol
@KingZero69
@KingZero69 2 года назад
that new keyboard you made looks really good tbh... i might buy one to try it out... respect for continuing down the path of true ergonomics 😏
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Thanks for your trust! We will keep walking the path, love exploring, just needed some funds to do so 😂😂
@pnwdrew8586
@pnwdrew8586 Год назад
Great explanation! I returned to a MS Ergo keyboard after using a variety of normal and small keyboards; I was having too much wrist and elbow pain on the straight keyboards and had the old school MS Ergo one laying around. Once I got up to speed again I used a Goldtouch split model with the hinge at top center for several years. It is cheap, and an awesom step into the split world. I'd seen The ZSA models and moving to one of them was the obvious next step. At the time I didn't know that so many other split designs existed. I'm using the Ergodox EZ right now and am exploring what, if anything, is the next step. I hadn't heard of Dygma yet, I'm afraid to go check out the products because if I like one, I'm back to relearning to type. I definitely had a rather steep learning curve on the Ergodox, and 12 months later I'm still altering angles and reassigning keys once in a while, there's just so many config options; layers, tap, double tap, tap and hold, macros, combos... I'm getting it right for me, at the moment at least. If I change jobs or even pick up new tasks I could envision another round of mapping a layout. My only complaint is that as a not-so-great touch typist I like symbols, letters on my keys. I don't spend al day at the keyboard anymore and just fell back into looking down at times. I can't imagine trying to learn this layout when all blank or only alphas and 40 odd blanks. I also like to swap keycaps at times for a new look. Once you get into the odder keyboard designs finding the proper size keycaps for some characters gets hard and you may realize that you just are never going to find that 1.5u keycap for ~ and `... or for Enter. You might find ergo sets (in my case) but as the layout is so variable often they are largely blank outside alphas. Or you end up buying a lot of sets and hoping the colors are very close or at least complimentary as you need to use a mix. This is further complicated with layers, I'm testing a one layer set up now and find I really don't miss the added layers. You may or may not be able to do that depending on what you do, whether you are going no mouse, or have a better memory than I do.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Hi, there! What a journey you had! Thanks a lot for sharing the experience 🙌 Regarding the configuration of the Ergodox, I'd suggest you start getting used to the features one by one. Start with some easy layers. Let's say one with the arrows on ESDF and some symbols. Once you get used to that layer, you might need to look less at the keyboard, and you can move on to the next feature. At least, that is what worked for us 😅 As for getting used to touch-typing, there's nothing else to do but practice and, again, take small steps, first, the alphas, then get used to modifiers in the thumb cluster, and once you did both, you'll be lightning-fast! Finally, the keycaps thing is a problem for columnar models like the Ergodox because they mount way more 1U, have no use for space bars, etc... Manufacturers are making more sets, but the options are still limited. You can use keycaps with a uniform profile, like XDA, buy a set for a 100% keyboard, and you'll have enough 1u keycaps for the board in one set. Other than that, you can try KBD fans or some other big vendor, from time to time they sell sets that might work. Again, thanks for sharing, and hope you get back to your typing speed in no time 😉
@pnwdrew8586
@pnwdrew8586 Год назад
@@DygmaLabF= With my current layout I have only one key that is way out of it's row and sticks up noticeably. That's hyphen/underscore, which I only need frequently if coding which is rare. I haven't found a need for layers yet. I have combos and multiple assignments. Layer switching requires at least 2 keypresses, which is same as most of my needs, macros and combos can handle >2 keystroke moves like switching workspaces. I know people who use layers heavily, I just don't have a need. I have to say the Defy is a nice looking keyboard. The lack of alternate color keycaps to fit the thumbs is not ideal; I understand why but maybe if enough units sell , a small market for customs will emerge or someone will release a printable design for anyone who'd like to change it up. It would be cool if the maker put the files out, as a favor to the community. No conflict unless other keycaps are being planned in house. Any plans to have popup demo booths in the US? I'd like to see/try before purchasing. Seattle, San Francisco, NYC, tech trade shows might be a way to get hands on your keyboards that are on the fence, like me. I'm near Seattle and would come to check it out. Or I'd happily test a demo unit for a month, review it (I'm not a youtuber but could try a review) and send back. Hint.. hint :) Thx for the response to my late post, that's a nice move and cool to know someone there takes time to read comments.
@reezin14
@reezin14 2 года назад
As a data analyst the Raise will be my endgame keyboard a few months down the road. Just wish there was some place to get custom keycaps for it. But never the less a great ergonomic keyboard IMO, should be better(wrist, forearms, shoulders) than the Alice layout I'm using now.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words. As for the keycaps, you can use any set, the only keys you won't be able to replace on the Raise are the thumb ones, those are the only non-standard keys on the keyboard 😉
@skyhappy
@skyhappy 2 года назад
The iris has a better thumb cluster. Only 4 keys. I have it.
@JCerris
@JCerris Год назад
Imagine a hotswap, tented, ortholinear, staggered, and split keyboard akin to the Iris, Sofle V2, Kyria, etc. With the option to add rotary encoders on both the left and right halves, along with a pointing stick (nipple mouse) on the right half. The encoders could be placed in the thumb region, while the pointing stick could be positioned between the keys near the index finger. With this design, the encoders could be used as vertical/horizontal scroll wheels or volume/seeking control wheels, this and the pointing stick would significantly reduce the need to reach for a mouse. I'd love to retain the number and function rows as they can double as macro keys or media controls, and you can keep the novelty of smaller keyboard with easy to reach keys through programmable layers. Don't find an OLED screen to be necessary; however, compatibily with existing software and perhaps on-board storage to keep changes across devices would be great. While a palm rest would be a nice, it could be optional. My only concern is the potential cost, which personally might be hard to justify for a keyboard at the moment.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
That's a very entincing idea, the problem is that adding those modules in the thumbs takes out space for thumbs, also, if you can't chage the position, users with large or small hands can find them not as comfortable as you might expect, Making them modular could be an option, that way users with different hand sizes would have less truble with them, stil, as you point, the price might be an issue. We do not agree on the Functions row, but your idea is very interesting and well-thought, thanks a lot for the input!
@FightinTheGorlax
@FightinTheGorlax Год назад
The x-bows is a fantastic starter ergo keyboard. I've had mine for about 2 years and it's fantastic. I'm planning on upgrading now, but it was probably the best $100 I've spent
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Nice, it does look like a good design and a good price to it, great place to start. The main problem is that you're stuck with thhat width between the "halves" but it is indeed a great start anyways! It's also more columnar/ortho than staggered 💪
@narkfly
@narkfly 2 года назад
Big props on mentioning Ben Vallack's end game. Although I think the order of the steps are up for debate, this is a stellar all around jumping off point, one which is great to point ergo newbies to.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Thanks 🤗 We completely agree, the steps and the end of the journey are up for debate. In fact, they will probably be dated in a few years. And that's a good thing, because it means keyboards are moving forward, which is the goal 😉
@AlexaRex
@AlexaRex 2 года назад
The Defy is the next I will get. It has all the things I want to try. Will try to get it when it comes out. The plan is for the streaming/editing/main PC, but I'll try it for gaming as well to see how it is.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
You should be fine for all the tasks. Gaming-wise might require some adaptation, but some of us are old enough to remeber playing Doom with the arrows, which is very similar to using a columnar keyboard for gaming 😅
@AlexaRex
@AlexaRex 2 года назад
@@DygmaLab Being a '78 model, I do remember those days 👴😋 It will be interesting to see how it goes. Been wanting a split keyboard for years now.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Then you should be absolutely fine 😉 The most important thing is getting used to the thumb keys and the new arms positon, but once you get used to, there's no getting back.
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 6 месяцев назад
Another comfort level is low profile switches paired with standard height caps. I love Mx low profile + MT3 profile caps which have some benefits of the well while keeping a hot swap PCB.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 6 месяцев назад
That's something we want to explore too: low-profile ergo keyboards :-)
@michaelwinter5292
@michaelwinter5292 2 года назад
I am a bit worried how I will adjust to the columnar layout once my defy arrives but hey gotta get out of that comfort zone lol. Another great Video by the way!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
It takes some time but you'll be able to overcome it. If you've been using a 100% layout keyboard, you're already using the numpad, the navigation cluster and the arrows on a columnar disposition 😉
@fedorlubensky
@fedorlubensky 10 дней назад
The best video! Thank you very much! ❤
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 10 дней назад
Glad you liked it!
@Lishtenbird
@Lishtenbird Год назад
Alice/Arisu layouts are a step in between common layouts and split ergonomic ones. Akko and Feker already have very affordable mechanical hotswap Alice boards, but with proprietary software; Keychron have just released two versions (regular, extended) for the V (plastic) series of VIA/QMK-compatible boards, and had the more expensive Q (aluminum) series for a while. Keychron are also working on a split, so we'll likely see a very affordable split board from them in the near future.
@MadersPie
@MadersPie 2 года назад
I find the most important aspect of the Dygma keyboards to be Dominique.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Oh, that's a basic aspect. It gives us an unfair advantage over other brands 😎
@Andrezinn0
@Andrezinn0 Год назад
I'm amazed that such things even exists. I was just looking for suggestions of a better keyboard that would reduce a bit of pain and entered the rabbit hole
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Welcome! Grab a seat and a snack!
@danielvelho6627
@danielvelho6627 8 месяцев назад
Best in class video on the matter! And your keyboard if the best too!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! We are glad you enjoyed it 😊
@andre.ramos.1234
@andre.ramos.1234 7 месяцев назад
I love your videos D. 😉😉 They are very enjoyable to watch and I like very much the details. I love the dygma-defy and the dygma-raise-2. I will try them one of this days. I am trying to move out of traditional keyboards 😊😊 Also, with all respect, i want to tell that you are very beautiful. 😍😍😍😍 Please let me know if you come to Portugal . Thx
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@raggedclawstarcraft6562
@raggedclawstarcraft6562 Год назад
I've started with microsoft ergonomic, and currently on dactyl manuform 5x6.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
That's a great progression, congratulations! The manuform is a very advanced model, you've gone all the way through 😊
@EdwardVarner
@EdwardVarner Год назад
Awesome video, I hope this company goes far!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you, Edward, we really hope to stay around and release many other projects in the future ❤️
@flavioguzman
@flavioguzman Год назад
I am considering buying a Dygma raise, but this review from the Wirecutter left me a bit puzzled "We dismissed the Dygma Raise because it doesn't have a neutral slope. The Raise tilts upward, from back to front, 3 degrees, which goes against ergonomic principles." I'm not sure what they mean, and wonder if you have comments.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
That statement is wrong in so many ways. The thing is that your wrists should have a neutral angle to avoid straining them (you don't want to extend them). There are many factors that account for that, such as how you sit or how you place your hands on the table. And also, the keyboard. Ideally, it should have a 0º. The Raise has a 3º, which is very low, but that's without considering the palmpads. With the palm pads, it's less than 0.5º. Plus, it's a very thin keyboard, which is way more important for ergonomics -specially for how most people sit to work- than having a 0º tilt angle.
@francis_clavel
@francis_clavel Год назад
Awesome video! Clear explanations and I learned a lot; I didn't know about tenting for keyboards. I need that so much and it will fit perfectly with my vertical mouse :)
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thanks a lot 😊 It's great to hear that more and more people are finding about these models. One thing: using a keyboard with tenting sets the hands on a different position; a different hand separation, could require adjusting the chair and definitely a higher hand positoin. Therefore it might feel weird for the first days, don't worry, is completely normal 😉
@Nattodayy
@Nattodayy Год назад
Windows and macOS lets you use multiple keyboards, so for the longest time I just used one side of my laptop keyboard for one hand and a separate keyboard for the other hand. I think I'm finally ready to buy a dedicated split keyboard if they can be as far apart as I want.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
It would be much better to have a dedicated split keyboard, one half for each hand ❤️ Feel free to reach out if you have questions about our products.
@rodneymkay
@rodneymkay 8 месяцев назад
This is an amazing guide. Thank you soo much ❤
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching 😊🫶
@samuelalzate8573
@samuelalzate8573 Год назад
This video was AMAZING! 👏 👏 👏
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you! We're super glad you liked it! ❤️
@KingZero69
@KingZero69 2 года назад
ok, i just saw that you have a new model with a columnar layout... props to getting onboard the columnar revolution #ergodoxgang 😎😏💪
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
We were aware of it since the beggining, but we decided to start on the staggered model, we thought it could be a bit risky as a first launch, but we've always been part of the gang 😎
@bcatbb2896
@bcatbb2896 Год назад
im so happy more people are moving towards ergo keyboards. the normal design of a rectangle just isn't good
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
We're happy too 🥰
@VROOOMIN
@VROOOMIN 9 месяцев назад
love this run down, great video!!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@miramallo30
@miramallo30 2 года назад
Great overview! My compliments for daring to mention the competitors. The last level, key wells, indeed cuts both ways. Key wells feel great, really great! But they come at a price not to be hot swappable. For me (I prefer cherry MX browns anyways), it is worth the price, but that's for every one to decide by himself. By the way, they actually are not the final level. There still is Data Hand, and - more contemporary - Charachorder.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Hi Maximillian! Thanks for the complments, although, we don't see other ergo manufacturers as "competition". The way we see it, there's still a vast majority of users with regular keyboards, the goal is move them to ergonomic models, then, we can start competing. For now, we're all in the same boat, of sorts😂 As for the final level. Honestly, we hope this video a few years. That means we have made advancements and improvements to establish even more levels on top of the current ones. Resulting in more comfortable keyboards for everyone 😊
@andrewmccauley6262
@andrewmccauley6262 Год назад
You can definitely have a hot-swappable split keyboard with key wells! Dactyl manuforms (and other similar 3D printed chassis types) are now able to support hot swap inserts with the right modifications. If you can't 3D print and wire it all up, there are places that will assemble it all for you.
@eprohoda
@eprohoda 2 года назад
Like it!you created professional , Dygma~
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Thank you very much, we do our best, then it's up to the users to say if it's good enough 😅
@LeoStaley
@LeoStaley Год назад
Absolutely love how you're fair about your competition. How do you feel about Zack Fridman's modular keyboard project? It's not available yet (probably won't be for a long time) by it looks absolutely wowzers.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
We've seen the video on the Mirage MK3, and it looks really nice. The customization possibilities are endless. All in all, any split model that cares about ergonomics and enccourages the uyse of the thumbs, is a win in our minds!
@YoungLink51423
@YoungLink51423 Год назад
Glad I found this channel
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you! We're glad you like it ❤️
@alliceazure5389
@alliceazure5389 Год назад
this video is so good , please come to Brazil without costing both my arms, thanks
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Fala meu querido! Oh we would love that, unfortunately it's not up to us, but an importing fee issue. We will do whatever we can to improve that 😅
@alliceazure5389
@alliceazure5389 Год назад
@@DygmaLab the importing fee is fine, actually, it's just that our currency is so devalued it costs 5 times more than the dollar price. Thanks for the reply and if you ever allow payment in installments i will be there in a heartbeat
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
That would be lovely indeed and would allow more people to join the keyboard. We'll check that option 🤔
@nssSmooge
@nssSmooge 2 года назад
Depends what you do. Do you write a lot, split. Do you write less then use mouse? 60% for me over split. With split, my mouse always ends up in wierd place.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
The advantage of the split is more with the posture that it is with the mouse. In time, almost everybody uses the mouse in the middle because there's plenty of room there, but at first, finding the right place for the mouse is challenging
@PhatPazzo
@PhatPazzo Год назад
Really good guide, but you forgot about the importance of blank key caps to dissuade against looking down.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
You're right, there are many other features that can be present on all the models but we didn't talk about it, blank keycaps, keycaps profile, different switches and so on. We have other videos about those topics in our channel, like this one here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-14bQeqhlTNM.html
@Mars21681
@Mars21681 2 года назад
omg I'm half way through this video and I'm in love... with the keyboard. but what is the lady's name? muy cliente! you can sense the passion and character, yet still classy and professional.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Her name's Dominique, she says it at the start of the video 😂
@Mars21681
@Mars21681 2 года назад
@@DygmaLab 🤔🧐 are we looking at same video? I played it again... I missed it. But I did catch her name on another video 😉
@ananyachand7999
@ananyachand7999 Месяц назад
Thank you so much for this video 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Месяц назад
Our pleasure!!! 🥰🥰🥰
@sqwert654
@sqwert654 2 года назад
I'm just going the 3d print route. That way I can adjust the layout and size to my liking. Its also very cheap. Already have the skill set needed.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Good for you! No matter what you go for, your hands will help you. And if you need some advice or just a community to help you, our Dygmates are also adept at printing 😉
@supram941g5
@supram941g5 2 года назад
If you don't know where to start.. get Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard (40$ original), then learn touch typing -> dygma defy or kinesis advantage 360 Respect to DygmaLab for mentioning your main (and only) competitor kinesis advantage 360
@kornee
@kornee 2 года назад
And the moonlander! I’d say that’s the most direct competitor, since it’s not a concave keyboard
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Though they are models with similar features, we don't really see them as competition. The real competition is convincing people that ergo models are the way to go. Once most users move to ergonomic keyboards we'll start the competition, but for now, us, ZSA, Keyboardio, Kinesis, and all other brands are on the same boat: defeat the old keyboards.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
That's a good suggestion. Not only from a user experience but also money is important. We always give the same advice, if spending X amount of money is a problem; go for a more affordable model. In time, you'll be able to move on to the next steps of the journey, but to do so, you have to feel comfortable with all the aspects of the purchase.
@masterpenky
@masterpenky Год назад
great video, lot's of valuable information for beginners to quickly get on track. I was missing mainly two things if I was to provide some critics: 1. the "end" is not really the end. IMO dactyl manuform could be an even further improvement. Furthermore, 2. I generally miss the discussion about pointing devices in combination with ergonomic keyboards. Having a split ergonomic keyboard with a fancy layout is great, but we still have to switch between mouse/trackball/touchpad and keyboard thousand times a day. I have never tried, but somehow including a trackball or similar into one of the splits could be the next logical step. Nevertheless, great video with an awesome host! Please take my money! 😀
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Cool, thank you for your comment! You're right, pointing device is something that needs to be taken in consideration for sure. We have an upcoming video related to different mouse options, and it will definitely help. We also plan to create a pointing device in the future to pair with the Dygma boards 🥰
@RedStallion2000
@RedStallion2000 7 месяцев назад
OMG, why is EVERYTHING a journey now? I can't wait for the band Journey to go on tour again. Then I can blog about my "Journey to see Journey journey."
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 7 месяцев назад
And then somebody can make a review of your journey and called it ""Journey to see Journey journey" journey" ... I would watch it 😜
@RedStallion2000
@RedStallion2000 7 месяцев назад
@@DygmaLabI'd watch it, too! 😄
@RedStallion2000
@RedStallion2000 7 месяцев назад
That would be quite the journey!!
@lamilumag
@lamilumag Год назад
Your thoughts on the glove80? Im in the Game for a new keyboard and found you guys as well as the Reddit subs that help me join ergonomics with mechanics and customization. Never used a concave keyboard and the most ergonomic one I’ve had so far is the cheap one by Microsoft which held up well for years at work and already drove coworkers crazy when they had to use my computer. My dasKeyboard ultimate without characters enhanced their frustration so rarely anybody sits in my place. I want to make my workspace absolutely unusable to others and for that - and happy hands 🙌🏻 - I got the UHK, Dygma and the Glove on my list. 😂 (This narrative took an unexpected turn along the way)
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
We're usually not fond of key wells because it makes the keyboard taller, and the switches are not hot-swappable. But if you have a standing desk and don't mind staying with the same switches, the key well is more ergonomic than traditional keyboards.
@vu_derArchitekt
@vu_derArchitekt Год назад
I wonder what can you say about "ergo" and still use the illogical QWERTY? That is the first thing when I think about "ergo", you can go "ergo" and help yourself against some health problems (as RSI) by changing your layout even on your cheap plastic noname keyboard for under 5$. And the next necessary things come: your desk, your chair, how high are these? The most important your sitting (or standing) posture makes your "ergo". Then the last ornament stuffs come: keycap, switches, material of your case, how bling is your RGB etc... these luxuries would please your eyes but have nothing to do with "ergo".
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Hello! We use QWERTY because is more friendly for the users, but we encourage everyone to adapt the keyboard to Colemak, Halmak, or any other more balanced layout. The keyboard's software makes it very easy! You can also go with the plastic keyboard and change the layout, whatever helps you to improve. As for the other elements of the setup, well, we intend to rework them in the future, but we have to go little by little 🙂
@ronaldomsjr
@ronaldomsjr Год назад
Awesome video. I started my journey with mechanical keyboards from WASD, then went for a split one with UHK. Finally landed on the Moonlander and I love it. But I keep second-guessing myself... do I need the Defy?? Wireless, built-in tenting, more thumb keys, fewer keys because of that...
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
That's completely up to you. If you're at the Moonlander stage, you're already using healthy model, so you're not in a hurry to upgrade it. We'd love to have you as a Dygmate, but you might be at the stage where you can explore possibilities and see what model suits you better
@andreasroyem3937
@andreasroyem3937 5 месяцев назад
I liked and comment this for one reason only. TO UNLEASH THE POWER OF MY TUMBS
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 5 месяцев назад
Yaaaaasssss 🙌💪 Our thumbs have the power!
@SotosPapas-x2d
@SotosPapas-x2d 8 месяцев назад
Well form a legal stand-point you actually showcased a lot of competitors without de-faming their products and while emphasizing the superiority of yours!!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for your words! Although we show products of the competition whether better or worse, we try to do it without discrediting anyone, this is not a Game of thrones! 😜
@shellbackbeau7021
@shellbackbeau7021 5 месяцев назад
I actually found the staggered->columnar switch to free the easiest part.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 5 месяцев назад
That's great! Everyone is different and some things seem easier for some people and more difficult for others, for example it took me about two weeks to get used to columnar
@roaba3581
@roaba3581 Год назад
I actually use my thumbs to type letters, spacebar and enter, and have layers set up on what would be the qwerty keys.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Nice, that's super different! Do you use that on a Raise? We would love to see how you've configured it 🧐
@roaba3581
@roaba3581 Год назад
@@DygmaLab admittedly I'm not currently using a dygma board, so I'm not sure if my exact setup is possible in your software, but I use the Ergobox-EZ 🙃. I switch layers by holding down the respective key and return on release. Q for mouse; W for arrow-keys and pos1, end etc; E for numblock, R for special characters and Y for function keys. Then I have a thumb key for additional special characters. Almost all changes are on the right hand side. I also use a modified version of colemak-dh as the key-layout, but that's not necessary at all, of course. In my opinion the perfect layout would be just 36 keys plus a decent thumb-cluster with 3-5 keys. Love your vids btw. Keep spreading the love for the objectively best keyboard layout, whichever flavour. 🧡
@AzenalBaidin
@AzenalBaidin Год назад
my keyboard journey are started on some cheap 65%, then i tried to use smaller keyboard (feel more challenging) and i fell in love with them,but i feel a pain in my shoulder after using it because my hands are cramped in a small form factor. then i tried corne keyboard, the DIY split programmable keyboard with 42 keys, it feels great, and cheap, i got it only 100$ and it got a tenting, although smaller one, but its a great keyboard after all.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
What a story! The Corne is great, and is a very advanced keyboard, not only because of the 42 keys, but because has to be soldered. However, if you like that, it's a feature, not a bug 😊 Also, getting used to 42 keys requires training, but certainly pays off, congratulations! If you want to add more angle to the tenting, here are some DIY tenting solutions from our community, hope it helps! dygma.notion.site/Dygma-Wiki-6e8905e1f928496a8736f7dc29e432bb
@RichardJohn86
@RichardJohn86 2 года назад
This has me rather worried that I've jumped too much into the deep end, as I'm just going from a standard mechanical keyboard to the defy. I've never experienced split, tented, or columnar before in any sense. Is there anything I can do in the meantime to soften this transition?
@armeli
@armeli 2 года назад
I don't think it is as huge of a problem as the video makes it seem. Jumping from row staggered layout to column staggered layout is not that big in my experience. The biggest challenge is learning new places for modifiers like ctrl etc. Non-split to split jump is also not that bad, it will highlight stuff like pressing b with your right hand or y with your left but if you have a decent touch typing form you will be fine. If your typing style is more of a "hunt and peck" type the learning curve will be harsh because that will not work at all on a split keeb. And finally tenting is just something you can ignore if it makes you feel uncomfortable or if it hinders your typing. To get the basics down I'd say it takes something from a few days to a few weeks of time. A few weeks might be a bit problematic if you use the keeb to work or study daily but my advice would be to do work/study on a regular keyboard for a few days while learning to use the split keeb on your free time, then as soon as possible just start doing everything on the split keeb to make the transition faster. The biggest learning curve is how to customize layers and how to utilize programmability. For me that took over a year and I definitely could try, experiment and learn more. And to actually answer your question.. Learn touch typing if you haven't learned it yet, and if you have then find out if you have some of those bad habits of pressing a key with a wrong hand. My experience that it's mostly y and b. Also be mindful of "cheats" in touch typing. For example E and D are supposed to be pressed with your left hand middle finger but it is pretty common (and faster) to type the ending '-ed' so that you press E with your ring finger and D with your middle finger. These are usually considered fine but doing some of these on a columnar keeb can feel uncomfortable. This '-ed' example is actually one of those uncomfortable ones. I hope this helps!
@RichardJohn86
@RichardJohn86 2 года назад
@@armeli thank very much, appreciate the advice and response. I'm a developer so behind a keyboard most hours of the day... I'm certainly not in the hunt and peck category but I've been trying to do some touch type practice in the mornings still and getting there, shockingly slow at first heh... but as soon as I tried to touch type properly during work I found myself reverting to my old typing style (which has admittedly still increased since my practice even if its not perfect typing form.) Sounds like I should ignore all the layers etc until it feels comfortable and accept that there will be an inevitable slow down transition phase. Thanks again
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
The best thing to do is adapt to the changes one by one. First, get used to the split, start by keeping the halves close and separate them little by little, the adjustment to the columnar layout should come naturally. Then move to customizing the thumb keys and play with the layers. Finally, adjust the tenting and find the perfect angle for your. That should not only soften the blow, but will also make it an amazing journey 😊
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
You've checked all the boxes, we tip our hats to you, Sir 🤗
@pointeplusplus
@pointeplusplus 5 месяцев назад
While I found this video a good summary of many of the perks of ergonomic keyboards, the bias toward dygma was uncomfortable for me. The hype and special effects reserved for your own board with the mere shrug at concave key wells and no mention of the glove80 kinda slayed me. I’m looking for a video to explain ergonomic keyboards to my physical therapist and for those reasons it can’t be this one
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 5 месяцев назад
I'm sorry you didn't like our video. We tried to do an honest review without sticking out our keyboard above the others, other than in an honest way 🥲
@JosephShermett
@JosephShermett Год назад
Do you have a recommendation for a split & tenting keyboard ideal for someone who uses the 10-key A LOT? Only thought I have is programming one in but am interested in other options.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
If you want completely split, then you need to go to a columnar keyboard like the Defy and the Moonlander and have a layer with the 10-key. Instead of moving your hand, you change the layer and the 10 key is under your fingers. With columnar it's very intuitive. If you still want staggered and not to program anything, then check the Logitech Ergo K860. Fixed split, tenting and it's a full-size keyboard with your 10-key and all.
@GoogleAccount-ki1ww
@GoogleAccount-ki1ww Год назад
Used Dygma Raise for the last year. I will never go back to a normal keyboard. The only time I will buy another one is when my existing one breaks or when the Raise goes wireless.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
You're on the record 😉 No take backs when we upgrade the Raise 😂😂
@GoogleAccount-ki1ww
@GoogleAccount-ki1ww Год назад
@@DygmaLab I’m waiting to push the purchase button like a tiger in the tall grass, trust me!
@noeblackberry5209
@noeblackberry5209 Год назад
Great video, what about the corne keyboard?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
I think we mention the Iris and the Kyria, but the Corne is a good alternative too if you're looking for keyboards with a smaller footprint and less keys. We tried to focus on the commercially available, as those are usually more difficult to find (and build) for the average user.
@nfruehavon
@nfruehavon Год назад
Can you add a numerical key pad to this board? If so, do you recommend one?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
You definitely can, but you would have to use an external one. There are many available and you can even use macro boards. If you're getting a Dygma board, you can also configure the numpad to a 2nd layer that is easily accessible 😉
@PierreJohnsonOnline
@PierreJohnsonOnline Год назад
Thank you for the great explanation on this type of keyboards. Despite having your own company, you really succeed in explaining obljectively the different sets which leads to a split columner keyboard layout. I just learned today about those keyboards, and am eager to get one! If I go for Dygma, I would probably go directly to the Ryse, so as not to have to upgrande from a regular to a columnar layout later. It's good that you give the option of wireless or not however. Prices of these types of keyboard, whatever the brand, are however very high. I wonder what justifies it. Is it a current fad? It would be great to make those more accessible to the general public. I might get one personnally however. I am still wondering a bit on the switches type. Would would be closest to the Mac butterfly keyboard (which I have learned to like and am used to now) ?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you Pierre!!! If you're coming form a Mac butterfly keyboard we always recommend Kailh Silent Brown. It's tactile with a nice bump. But you'd still need to adapt, as mechanical keyboard switches have longer travel distances (the amount the key goes down when you press it). Here's another video that can help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-noUj7uUyIk4.html
@PierreJohnsonOnline
@PierreJohnsonOnline Год назад
@@DygmaLab Thanks. that sounds nice ! When in September do you think the Defy will be ready for delivery in Europe, and up to when is the preorder period?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
@PierreJohnsonOnline delivery will start in September for the whole world but it'll continue through to October. The pre-order period will finish the moment we're ready to ship the first keyboards, so it won't be there much more 😅
@lorithacker
@lorithacker 10 месяцев назад
What about a number pad for accounting? I have ulnar nerve damage and need an ergonomic keyboard.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 10 месяцев назад
With a columnar keyboard like the Defy you can create a number pad layer, and that way you don't need to move your hand all the way to a number pad 😊
@itsjacob420
@itsjacob420 11 месяцев назад
What is different about the thumb key switches? If I’m swapping in a custom set of switches, do I need to order something specific for those keys?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 11 месяцев назад
The lower row of thumbkeys are low-profile Kailh Choc v1. So you need 4 on the Raise and 8 on the Defy 😊
@itsjacob420
@itsjacob420 11 месяцев назад
perfect, thank you!
@Burnlit1337
@Burnlit1337 Месяц назад
Those thumbkeys reminds me of the MMORPG mouse with 12 buttons on the side of the gaming mouse. If programmable it just might elevate my gaming. Too bad can't find one that's somewhat affordable. Actually all of these extra features comes with a heafty price tag or just simply not available
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Месяц назад
Our keyboards (the Dygma Defy and Dygma Raise) are fully programmable, so those thumbkeys con become really handy when gaming or working.
@Burnlit1337
@Burnlit1337 Месяц назад
@@DygmaLab Sounds good! Going thru this Ergonomic Journey myself and I'm currently comfortable with the split and tenting with the Kinesis; so much that I can't go back. Now I feel like I'm ready for the next stages it's only been half a month. I even observed that my fingers likes to travel in columns already, so columnar might be an easy one for me to get used to. Although, I'm still not back at my 80ish wpm, but I think I've made my fingers pliable and ready a new setup, or maybe it's just me being lazy and want to get used to the new better think instead of wasting my muscle memory. So yeah, thinking about getting your Defy keyboard as my final destination for the thumbkeys and columnar. Also I the way that your keyboards are built, if it's tented up so much, maybe there will be less crumbs and hair getting stuck in between the keys. Too bad it will take a few weeks to get to me, guess can only do is to wait and suffer the cries from my finger calling for the keys be straight already
@kornee
@kornee 2 года назад
Can’t believe you guys have a Moonlander wíth the platform! It was sold out in a day!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
We're people of resources... and pretty lucky 😂😂
@benettaperry5165
@benettaperry5165 4 месяца назад
I am having surgery. I type for a living. I will be in a sling for 6 weeks. I want a split keyboard, so that I can have the right keyboard, near my right hand, without extending my arm. Which keyboard do you recommend.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 4 месяца назад
Hi! If you have never used a columnar or an ortho keyboard I would recommend the Dygma Raise 2 with tenting kit, so you can start typing with your keyboard elevated or with negative tilt, which will really help you while writing. If you have used a columnar or an ortho keyboard before, then I recommend the Dygma Defy, it also has tenting and negative tilt so you can try it too. Both are programmable so it can help you avoid unnecessary wrist movements 💪
@benettaperry5165
@benettaperry5165 4 месяца назад
@@DygmaLab thank you
@IlyaZub
@IlyaZub 2 года назад
Interested about your opinion on the Dactyl Manuform.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Would be similar to what we explain about the Kinesis, they help, but they are bulkier, less comfortable to transport and don't have the hot-swappable feature. But in the end it's a matter of what you prefer. If you move away from conventional keyboards, it's a win for us, no matter which model you pick.
@rimbaud0000
@rimbaud0000 Год назад
Nice balanced video
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Glad you liked it 😊
@batmanonabike3119
@batmanonabike3119 Год назад
Nice video. I would probably have got one of your if I had seen them before i bought my Moonlander. Aside from the practicality, the cable on the moonlander spoils the aesthetics somewhat. If I upgrade, I may check you guys out next time.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you! We plan to stay here for a long time, so you will probably have a Dygma keyboard or even a different peripheral in the future 🥰
@kochusabu1008
@kochusabu1008 Год назад
Thank you Ligma lab, you've changed my life
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Thank you, glad we've helped that much. Can you share more information about your story? We would love to hear that 🫂
@Vordigon1
@Vordigon1 Год назад
Ill keep to my k380, thanks.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Of course, it's important to use the keyboard that works best for you. If you ever decide to try something new or have any questions, we're here to help. Happy typing with your K380! 😊👍
Год назад
This is the BEST review video I have ever watch. Thank you!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Wow, thank you! So glad that you enjoyed it 😊
@accentontheoff
@accentontheoff 2 месяца назад
This is interesting. Didn't expect all your recommendations to be split keyboards. Has the ergonomic-ness of these type of keyboards been verified, if you don't mind me asking. Think I will try one. On another note do these keyboards also take care of the whole wrist support issue. What are your views on that. Tia.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 месяца назад
I would recommend reading "The Split Keyboard: An Ergonomics Success Story". The research it's based on is old, but the same principles apply today.
@accentontheoff
@accentontheoff 2 месяца назад
@@DygmaLab Will do thanks.
@accentontheoff
@accentontheoff 2 месяца назад
Hi, looked it up. Would have bought the keyboard you guys are selling, unfortunately it’s kind of outside my budget. Plus, I don’t think it’s available in India anyway. Can you recommend something budget-friendly that’s available more widely. Thanks in advance!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 месяца назад
Hi again! It is available in India, we sell worldwide 🗺️
@accentontheoff
@accentontheoff 2 месяца назад
@@DygmaLab Oh good, will look it up thanks.
@Stafylocok
@Stafylocok 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. Do you plan to sell the defy with cherry mx silent red as well? We can chose kailh pink but not cherry mx pink :-/
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
That's a very interesting question. When we were deciding on the switches we would offer, we considered Cherry's silent models. But compared to Kailh's they make some more noise and feel mushier, so we went with Kailh models. However, you can always swap the switches if you prefer Cherry 😉
@Umeda1978
@Umeda1978 Год назад
Hi, can you make a keyboard like the Kinesis Advantage 360 Pro, but with the Dygma cool features?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
I guess what you'd want is a concave keywell. We'll explored it, but it's almost impossible to make that with hot-swappable sockets, and we looove to try different switches. But we'll keep trying 😊
@rpr1216
@rpr1216 7 месяцев назад
Is there an ergonomic keyboard which has big enter key and a range of non-English layouts (for EU market)?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 7 месяцев назад
That would be the Dygma Raise :-)
@rpr1216
@rpr1216 7 месяцев назад
@@DygmaLab I'd like to press Enter with my little finger and not my thumb.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 7 месяцев назад
You can also do that! As it is fully programmable you can have your Enter wherever you want 😜
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 10 месяцев назад
wonder how much a company could get out of setting up testing spots in public places where people can try out all the stages because I really would buy a small fee to play around
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 10 месяцев назад
We want to start going to technology fairs to show the keyboard "in real life". And maybe retailers once we're big enough 😊 Or... you can plan a trip to Valencia (Spain)
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 10 месяцев назад
your single highhandedly up scaling the Spain population @@DygmaLab
@Chris-ln3xe
@Chris-ln3xe 2 года назад
Lovin my Redox keeb
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
It's a great model, if it's helping you, we can only say: Congratulations!
@q4sbgf9kfgrd6
@q4sbgf9kfgrd6 Год назад
I got the kinesis freestyle a few months ago when I started developing arthritic pain in my wrists. Overall, I like the keyboard and I think it accomplishes what it’s meant to do. However, I personally cannot adjust to the “tall“ keys after using slim profile keyboards for over a decade. I just cannot get used to it. It’s like my fingers are getting stuck between the keys! yes, it doesn’t have 100% of the keys (I miss my number pad!), But it has some handy keys instead, such as copy cut and paste keys, to prevent using modifier keys.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Hello, and thanks for sharing your experience! Glad to hear your hands are imrpoving. As for the problems with the keycaps, you can try to change the keycaps, maybe using a uniform profile like XDA, or a shorter profile like the Cherry ones. Hope it helps!
@gamersarduinos2874
@gamersarduinos2874 6 месяцев назад
tip for a better video, everytime you name drop a keyboard, show it with text so that people can take a screenshot and take advantage of affiliate links
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your advice! We will take them into account 💪🫶
@MrJanus19
@MrJanus19 2 года назад
What keycaps (and what profile) will the defy support ?
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
The Defy mounts Cherry profile keycaps. As for which supports, it has standard switches, so it can mount and MX stem keycaps.
@jeremy_ach
@jeremy_ach 2 года назад
Will you guys add a finance option to the Dygma keyboard? I haven't gotten an answer yet
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Hi Jeremy, We're working on it, for the time being, the only solution is use fractioned payment from Pay Pal, though this might not be ideal, is the best we can do at the moment, sorry!
@kubo407
@kubo407 Год назад
I wish there was a version of the defy that was cheaper, membrane keyboard. It's just costing so much makes it really hard to take the chance on it.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
Our mid-term goal is to make more affordable versions of our keyboards 😊
@stefanhopfer3905
@stefanhopfer3905 16 дней назад
Ya great - thx a lot!!!!!!!
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 16 дней назад
Thank you 🥰
@khomo12
@khomo12 9 месяцев назад
Very nice!👍👍👍⌨⌨⌨
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much
@mike78at
@mike78at 2 года назад
Ben even has made a functioning keyboard with only two keys! ;-)
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab 2 года назад
Though that might take some time to adapt, it could be a good idea to typpe on the phone or something along the lines. There's always a place for such inventions 😉
@peterpiperdiedharper
@peterpiperdiedharper Год назад
why does the Dygma Raise not have bluetooth connectivity? you are advertising it as a middle step keyboard for people who might eventually choose the Dygma Defy columnar keyboard but you are limiting it's connectivity. Please add multi-device bluetooth connectivity.
@DygmaLab
@DygmaLab Год назад
The Dygma Raise was designed in 2017 when split wireless keyboards were fairly exceptional. In fact, it's not been until last year that the first commercial Bluetooth split keyboards have been available. We plan to develop a Raise V2 with the same wireless capabilities and other surprise features 😊
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