Which liveaboard sailboat is best? S&S v Hans Christian v Bavaria v Frans Maas Ep 126 

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1 Hans Christian 2 Frans Maas 3 S&S 4 Bavaria It's very difficult to beat a Hans Christian for both live-aboard or off-shore sailing. And a cutter rig which is my absolute favorite rig setup. Cool video

Hans Christian, but I’d down size to the 33 for several reasons that all came down to cost.

Hans Christian...would not liveaboard any other vessel.

Hi Folks, thanks for this info but it would be nice to include a walkthrough of each vessel and to give a running commentary.👍

Would've been nice if you had put boat info up on screen as you started talking about each boat. I couldn't even tell what any boat was that you were talking about. And..I still can't figure out what kind of boat you're sailing! I've been searching and can't find any info. Your ketch kind of looks like amel super maru but I don't know. Please put boat info in video description 🙏 A Nissan boat....with a Volvo Penta engine and drive system? That's weird! Never knew Nissan made boats

I could be bias, but Hands down winner for a live aboard world cruiser is the Hans Christian. That’s why I bought one.

I follow different creators from the U.K. and frequently think the footage needs to be color graded. It’s a fun process that will encourage the rest of the world to think the U.K. isn’t glum and gray

Wonderful video and fascinating to compare such well known designs, but so different from each other. We spent quite a bit of time at KBL having arrived there first in early 2014. Our boat is a 12 ton Gauntlet - built in NZ of native NZ Kauri timber (carvel planked) and with a (then) 50 year old 60 hp 4 cylinder Fordson diesel. She was first launched in 1978 in Wellington, NZ. For those who know, Gauntlets are double-ended and, being designed in 1934 as ocean cruiser/racers, performed well. In their day they were successful English Channel racers and ours apparently once won a race across Cook Strait - an infamous body of water! But the double ended design did mean that space down below was limited but for just the 2 of us, she was fine. We left NZ in 2011 and sailed via New Caledonia, Australia, Indonesia and Malaysia to Thailand. Soon after arriving in Thailand in 2014 we went to Chennai, India where Jean underwent double hip replacements - time interval between hips was 3 weeks. The experience was faultless and the surgeon, Dr. Vijay Bose, was among the top 5 orthopeadic surgeons in the world. We have many stories of our time in Thailand and Malaysia and our haulout experiences - some good and others not so!! We remember Mark at KBL and having many conversations around the bar! Great memories. Sadly our sailing home of 10 years was sold in Turkey and we are now living far from the sea in Medellin, Colombia. To read about all our sailing adventures you can read our blog - www.tiaretaporo3.blogspot.com and email is tiare.taporo3@gmail.com Recent blogs since 2018 are nothing about sailing, but instead containing some politics - if you enjoy that!!

And I thought that was Sid James on your t-shirt - turns out it's a picture of you when you're jet lagged!!

I’m dreaming of a Hans Christian for a while now. I love these boats! Unfortunately, there are only a few for sale here in Europe. And those are very expensive.

I owned Mas Alegre from 2006 till 2015 i bought from Ed Vaughan who owned her from 1982 till 2006 she originally raced on the West Coast of America LA area winning many offshore races. Ed first cruised her from LA across the Pacific to New Zealand from there shipped her back to LA where he went back to work in Hollywood where he worked as Producer / Director for many years. He left LA again in 1987 went across the Pacific up to Hong Kong across to Sth Africa i met Mas Alegre in Durban in 1990 Ed actually sailed with his partner Julie Spence whom he said many times was the best crew he ever sailed with she sailed with Ed for 10 years on Mas Alegre. I think the circumnavigation finished in 1993 or 1994 after seeing them in St Maarten in 1993 i didnt see Ed & Mas Alegre till 2005-2006 in Yacht Haven Marina i know after arriving back in LA , Ed later cruised with different crews nth to Alaska , Seattle etc before leaving LA again i think in 2000 to Hawaii then into the Sth Pacific across to Australia then back out to Fiji and back to Australia up to New Guinea then nth again to Hong Kong and across to Singapore then Phuket. As mentioned i bought her then and Ed well he found the place he wanted to live in and stay i am very sad to tell you all that Ed died 3 days ago at Phuket Bangkok Hospital i miss my friend vaya con dios Ed

I'm just not in that much of a hurry, so it would be the HC all thing being considered for me. Bet Milly was glad to see you!

Frans Maas is indeed a (Dutch) yacht designer. I owned a Standfast 33 wich sails superb. As a liveaboard yacht? Mwha. Frans was died tagically in a sailing accident summer of 2017 in which the keel broke off the yacht he was racing.

When I’m asked, “What boat do you live on,” I reply, “A 1965 full keel 26 ft. Pearson Ariel.” They always say “That’s way too small for me, I’d have to have an 80 footer, full of electronics, & air-conditioned!” I ask them what boat they have? “I don’t have one,” they reply.

Sadly a disappointing vlog this time guys. Why didn't you have a quick walk thru of each boat as you were describing it, it would have been a lot more helpful seeing as "liveaboard" refers more to the inside really. Other than that there was some good info. Crack on 😉

horses for courses , great vid thanks.

Another nice one guys! Amazing playground for a sail race! With our 2.5m draft I would probably constantly panic about running aground :D Nice shots all over! Thanks for that!

I would go for the Hans Christian. I've never been aboard one but did see one "in the flesh" here on the Great Lakes. Oh by the way - was that Sid James I saw on Jamie's tshirt? Carry on Sailing!

Our Bavaria does not have the portlights in the hull sides which greatly increases storage.

Hans Christian for me, its my dream boat :)

I wonder how many people recognise Sydney James :)

Hi Jamie and Liz, Your storage lockup could maybe be expanded about all the odds and sods of cruising. Maybe a vid on all the little things like; registered address, keeping DVLA/Taxman/Bank happy, Physical post, Parcels. I know you have covered some of these more mundane items but maybe pull them together into one boring discussion/rant/snooze. ;-)

"it's a team building exercise and I was building my team" I laughed out loud at that

Former DJ with a massive vinyl addiction. Now the really cool eclectic sound track to all your videos makes sense :)

Something about that HC Cutter thats just pure.

Nice refreshing video... some wind and water...must have been hard on you guys, and Millie too, being on the hard for so long... Your earlier videos and music were a great source of inspiration. Not only are you two good storytellers and documentarians, but you introduced me to whole new world of music on the internet. THANK YOU for that! Looking forward to your upcoming passages.

Here is a hint for anyone making video's...talking heads is a bad idea. WE DO NEED to SEE you but 5%. Great subject...quit watching

I raced for years on an S&S34. They are a magnificent sea boat and still fast and winning races as well as having some incredible solo circumnavigations and one double circumnavigation. Cant speak highly enough about these boats

I had a Hans Christian 48 ketch- Pacific Pearl, great boat but so much work to keep in reasonable cruising condition. During the 23 months we owned her we spent twice her sale price - plus a lot of sweat Before that I had a Bavaria 49, great boat but felt like a product more than a boat. I have nothing to complain about with that boat but never actually felt like it was a boat. After the H C 48T, we bought a Catana 42 catamaran. That was the best of all the boats I ever owned. We sold it purely for monetary reasons and will buy one again one day soon. But we now own an ior 37 foot boat and it is great. We own it as someone gave it to me for about 7000 pounds The best boat from the three compared, given I have owned similar boats was the Catana - a catamaran. Great videos btw Paul

Hi there, nice to see you back, you have obviously missed your boat life. Where is Millie? Cannot believe we are still not getting a proper view of your dodger, it’s infamous in its own right! Lost track of how long we’ve all been waiting. Xxx

When you have the time could you please explain the different types of rigs. (eg. ketch rig)

Goodness I haven't heard "Robbers dog" statement for ever!

Great video guys! How fun!

Did you digitize your vinyl so you can enjoy on the boat?

I am torn.... it's between a Hans Christian 33 or a Lord Nelson 35. I like the head forward and being able to get to the chain locker. V-Births are not for a fella my age. The coachmen's bunk works and the wood interior is a must. I don't need to go fast and like the heavy displacement. The people that own them seem to take good care of them too. The galley on both looks great. I am trying to find out what there is not to like with these two models. If I had a bitch it would be that there doesn't seem to be a good spot for a solid fuel stove.

Aha! Finally, understand now how your picks in your background Music is high taste. You were a DJ :-) Anyway you can create your choice of a playlist if you were still Dj'ing. It would be a welcome addition to your offerings.

To be completely honest we haven’t been watching all of your videos lately they have kinda switched gears more like a talk show and not about the different destinations we maybe interested in. Be safe guys take care

I want a Sparkman & Stephens T-in a tiny Ladies size with Esper on the Back in Bold lettering in a large arc.I will design it for you for free! Let me do it for Millie!-Please,I'll design the Tee for Free-For Millie! and also add the graphics in Japanese. Stay Safe my Lovelies! From a tiny Lady that loves Cats.

Yes indeed, very hard not to love an S&S.

Is that Charles Bukowski on your shirt? Cheers!

Mark Jones needs to make a you tube channel. I could listen to him tell stories for hours with that voice.

Nice one Jaime - spotted that In Front - Wan' it 10"! Huge for me in Boston back in the day. Have DJ'ed since about '85. Rave on!

By the way Welcome Back and I could live on any one of those boats... :)

Where is Millie??

as soon as I saw Mas Alegre I thought that must be the S&S you were featuring, but alas, no! I can't help thinking that Frans Maas must have been heavily influenced by S&S as the lines are so distinctly S&S'esque! :-)

HC just look like living large.

Excellent video

For a second, there, I thought Liz had locked Jamie in the storage unit, still admiring his records. Nice to see that you're back on the boat, and nice to see those beautiful boats.

Compare that lock up to the crappy places on 'tv storage wars'! Quality organization too. 👍👍🇬🇧 The '70's era boat with the IOR rule have a look you love or hate , but that tumblehome just gives me goose bumps! One of the best survivors of the era was the , believe it or not, a Catalina 38, www.catalina38.org Catalina bought the mold of a S&S racer, and modified it quite a bit into a better , faster boat but with a full cruising interior! , they are now highly prized yachts. Buy the way, tumblehome is a great way to protect the toe rail on a boat too! Cheers Warren

Hey Jamie, love the Sid James T-Shirt! Did you know that he was a South African born in Johannesburg and a regular actor on the "CARRY ON" movies. He was always referred to as "the grand old man of dirty laughter"

First 42 is always a good one for long trips.

I've been wanting to try Epidemic Sound. Very expensive though. Great video. Loved the drone footage.

Love your channel! Would have loved to see the interior of the four boats to get an idea of what you were referring to when describing the benefits and disadvantages of each one.

The actual comparison starts at 8:17

What's with the Sid James t-shirt?

If it was for me it would always be the Hans Christian. So salty with classic interior. I'm not nuts about the rounded transom, but it has it's use. If you want to go fast, NOT the Hans Christian.

Thank you . You 2 are lovely people.

What’s taking so long on upgrades

Was that docklands rail ride clip just sped up or a proper hyperlapse? It looked real good.

High bow, low stern, wide beam with stern overhang....The Standfast 40 is reminiscent of a Bill Tripp design!

Man, even your trains drive on the wrong side of the tracks. :-)

Nice to see both of you are back on the boat ! I have been doing some research on the Irwin brand why don't I see or hear from Cruisers owing one of these beutefull boats in particular the Ketch Irwin 52/54 the late 80's version

I have that Rupert book, somewhere. Keep the great content coming.

Hi! Offcorse the renovations of the boat must have to take the time it takes! When you are oute on the oceans it !must! Be in order! LIFE hangs on that! Seems like some people don't really understand that! Wondering, do you have a sextant with nessesary utensils for navigation in the old way? If, if, if the fancy system would colaps? Just a thougth! IF, Would not happend the boat i would like to have is a Hans Christian BarbroSweden

S&S for me beauty and a safe boat. Hans Christian to slow. Bavaria fast with a keel deadly without

looks like your brother haha, just with a longer beard.

Need a dampening system for a turntable on your yacht.....

For a moment I thought you was going to the boat show and do a episode with sailing uma...

Hahaha, Sid James on the T Shirt. Awesome.

You Two ROCK!

Thank You.

Thank you for the music playlist.

The music gave my ears the aids- i had to change it

Your UK video was awesome.

like the playlist idea...

Good to see you back.👍

Great video, fantastic shots of London.

Ride that dolly Liz!!!

love the Sid James T shirt.

No Ketch? :(

LOVE the tee shirt.

sid james tee, fantastic

Sorry guys - I am a dark side convert after 36yrs of keelers..... OUTREMER! (And yes I was with them pre La Vagabond!) S&S is the best cruiser / racer imho......