Which Makita Tools does the NEW 40v 8Ah Battery NOT Fit On? This One May Surprise You?

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Not all Tools can handle the new 40v Max 8Ah Battery. But which ones? And why?
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@Aspire198 Год назад

The batteries fitting in the vacuum so perfectly actually makes me wanna get the vac+the 2 batteries just for OCD satisfactions ;) then again that's probably a $2000 compulsion purchase

@UnacceptableViews Год назад

I have an old 18v drill that was restricted to 3ah batteries and after all my 3ah batteries died it became unusable.. i did file the bit of plastic on the tool so my 5ah and 6ah batteries would fit. the only reason i keep the drill is because it has a 3 speed gearbox and is handy for bits that like the extra speed like wire brushes. it doesn't have protection on the tool and being that it's a brushed motor it gets a bit toasty with prolonged use with high capacity batteries but i won't be too sad if it dies one day. i have 3 other drills that are all brushless.

@bobbray9666 Год назад

I bought a bunch of XGT tools and a couple of 8Ah batteries. The only tool that wouldn't accept the 8Ah battery was the XGT chainsaw. I just filed down the two plastic pieces on the saw that prevented the battery from sliding on and now it fits snug and clicks in. Not sure why Makita made the chainsaw to only work with the smaller capacity 40V batteries. Maybe they were concerned about the competing weights of other chainsaws with batteries compared to theirs? The 8Ah batteries are huge but I'd rather not carry two batteries into the woods to cut up a downed tree.

@churrosforsuros2565 Год назад

Well, i just charge my 2.5ah battery more often😅 jeez if you throw the 8 at someone.. there is a high chance you kill that person. Grenade! 😅

@toolscientist Год назад

Can you buy the connector for say the fan or any other tool that takes all batteries? You could also buy the light or the USB power supply as they're cheap. If so, you could swap the connector over (might need desoldering) and then swap it back if you need to warranty.

@Smokeyr67 Год назад

I’”l take a punt that the chainsaw not accepting the 8Ah battery is an OH&S thing - it’s all about barrance glasshopper

@samhassall1926 Год назад

Does the door on the chillie bin actually shut with the 8amp in there? And what’s the run time with them two?

@larsknoop2221 Год назад

Makita has indeed limited the chainsaw to the 5ah battery instead of the 8ah because the bigger battery does in fact actually give more power to drive the motor and will put the chain speed above 25m/s which will ask for different PPE. I do have to say the 40v top handle chainsaw is such a blessing while you are up in the tree because it is lighter than my previous Stihl top handle. the normal Makita chainsaw is nice for around the house but for industrial forestry work i still prefer my trusty petrol Husqvarna (also batteries tend to drain quicker in very cold wheater)

@harveysmith100 11 месяцев назад

You sound like a man who would know. Are Husqvarna better than Stihl or is it comparing apples to oranges.

@larsknoop2221 11 месяцев назад

@@harveysmith100 this really depends on what type of work you are doing and where. If you are a professional forester or tree surgeon I would recommend Husqvarna especially for colder (semi arctic) climates. If you are not a forester in a cold climate then you could go with both because they are both great brands but Stihl is a bit less suited for the colder (semi arctic) climate. If you use a chainsaw regularly than I would recommend Stihl for the user friendly operations and a great price quality balance. Ease of use includes the most important part changing the chain. On a Husqvarna you need to unlock the chainbrake before opening the cover to change the chain because otherwise you seize the brake in the closed position. This is something that isn’t a problem on a stihl chainsaw. That is why for non foresters I would recommend stihl over Husqvarna because of the price quality balance and the ease of use

@lilanedaria 9 месяцев назад

@@larsknoop2221I will be moving to Norway soon and am planning on purchasing a couple chainsaws, so I am interested in that topic. I don't mean to downplay your experience but is there any evidence to back up your claim that husqvarna outperforms sithl in cold climate? Your comment peeked my curiosity and I conducted a cursory search online, but I came short of any tangible evidence.

@larsknoop2221 8 месяцев назад

@@lilanedaria There is no real numbers on it that is purely based on my experience with both brands. my Stihl and Husqvarna both have a engine block heater for cold weather but the difference is that my Husqvarna would never cut off when it was cold and my Stihl would sometimes cut off while i was still warming it up before i started sawing because of the cold still works great but if you need to saw a lot you want to be sure your saw does not cut off at a critical moment because of temperatures starting from -15 all the way up to -40

@jamallaidley4718 Год назад

That's a massive battery

@Damitsall Год назад

Good to know. 40V MASTER RACE!

@ludikonj8927 Год назад

Very helpful video! I'm wondering is there a difference in quality of makitas made in different countries?

@riba2233 Год назад

Nah, same quality

@danielreynolds6498 2 дня назад

For top Handel chainsaw i think because it’s a climbing saw they want to keep the weight low and the 8 ah sticks out to much would bump and grab on to things. Bl4040f would be a perfect battery for this tool. Battery size seats perfect in tool light and power.

@speedyink Год назад

Pretty much all the tools are saws...possibly a safety thing? The 5 and 8 are pretty heavy, if you put a chainsaw or circ saw way out of balance it could be dangerous. The rear handle chainsaw would be fine as the battery is more centralized for balance, but the top handle has it hanging off the back.

@wolfcommander6009 Год назад

Idk if u will try to use the multitool to saw off the tangs and do an all size fits mine

@valdius85 Год назад

The 8Ah will be useful in lighting as well. No one cares about the weight there is it will come in handy on many sites. Depending on the environment, buying fancy batteries might be cheaper than an army of sparkies :) I am still waiting for my PD (Power Delivery standard for charging laptops and other staff). Then I will be able to go car camping and work :)

@TinkerWithTools Год назад

Great review. I always laugh when a battery that giant makes it on to something as small as an impact driver.

@stauker.1960 Год назад

Of all the things I expected incompatibility from, it was that

@designerprojects8137 4 месяца назад

Curious if the 8ah fits on the 40v plunge saw?

@mongocrock Год назад

Most likely the larger batteries can output more power than the smaller tools wiring can handle under load. Plastic tabs are less expensive than fancy electronics to prevent overdraw, or bigger heavier electronics(wires)in tools trying to be lightweight.

@kayvaanshr1ke Год назад

Exactly. Though I will mention that I have tools from another company whose tools are supposedly rated for their highest capacity battery, who also admitted fault to me when I had their 305mm slide saw catch fire due to wiring being too small to carry the current draw under load. I was given a warranty refund after 3 replacements and have switched to the XGT platform in the hope that with a higher voltage battery the current draw won’t be as high and save the wiring and switches

@toolscientist Год назад

You could be right, but the fancy electronics are already in there. A brushless motor won't turn without the elctronics to switch the poles on and off. The power can easily be limited by having the poles turn on for shorter intervals.

@boosted242 29 дней назад

Yo! Great video!! What's that Chainsaw that the 8amp battery goes onto? I bought an 8amp just primarily foirwhen i get the chain saw, but if it doesn't fit it's pointless! Cheers!

@BuildsStuff 27 дней назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jaa7lNCx4h8.htmlsi=hG4E-ScSA81E8hKO

@boosted242 27 дней назад

@@BuildsStuff Cheers buddy! Love your work!

@jumb0juice327 Год назад

Good to know i can throw it on the little blow and use it all year on a single charge!

@craigackerman2590 4 месяца назад

I wanna see you use a dremel and grind it down so the 8.0 battery fits then try the tools in a test so see how much the extra pep can have on a board or log.

@daifeichu 9 месяцев назад

Love my Australian brothers with the Makita tools. We got them here in Canada but not to the level like you guys have them. I use to have a BHP451 hammer drill. A non-star tool. I cut off the tab to run 4Ah batteries with the star. It made a lot of holes for me. It's an old brushed drill that is outshined by the new drills but it's the tool that got me started in Makita.

@BuildsStuff 9 месяцев назад

Who are these "Australians" you speak of?

@daifeichu 9 месяцев назад

@@BuildsStuff Lol, sorry my man. Some of us maple syrup drinkers can't tell the difference.

@BuildsStuff 9 месяцев назад

No worries, you yanks are always getting it wrong.

@daifeichu 9 месяцев назад

@@BuildsStuff Who are these "Yanks" you speak of?

@MrV3lla 5 месяцев назад

Well played fellas

@Germs-theGman Год назад

Does the 8ah fit the 7-1/4” rear handle circ saw?

@mohammedisaa9952 10 месяцев назад

Ring your dealwr or Makita in your country?....

@PeterTrimboli Год назад

I had a 1.5 ah lxt battery that wouldn't fit on my drill it kinda made sense in the fact it would be under powered but who cares if all I needed to do was spin something it would still work

@mitcheliott7052 Год назад

Hey tools can you do a review on 40v rotary hammers or do you have one already cheers 👍🏼

@BuildsStuff Год назад

I have done a couple.

@pete_lind Год назад

@@BuildsStuff Chainsaw safety gear classes , class ZERO up to 16m/s , usually all mains powered chains saw only do 15 m/s , Class 1 , up to 20 m/s chain speeds (lot of cordless ones are faster) Class 2 up to 24 m/s and Class 3 up to 28 m/s and thats the max speed all chainsaws are restricted to when you buy those . Of course everyone uses , class 3 anti cut boots and at least anti cut chaps , no one uses chainsaw in sandals and bare legged .

@mitcheliott7052 Год назад

@@BuildsStuff with the larger of the rotary hammers

@mitcheliott7052 Год назад

@@BuildsStuff in particular hr0009g

@Smokeyr67 Год назад

It’ll be interesting to see if Makita go to pouch style lithiums in the future..

@ChadTolkien Год назад

Would love a super small pouch battery for smaller tools.

@Fekillix Год назад

@@ChadTolkien Not going to see small 40V batteries, you must have 10 cells to get 40V, while with 18V you can have just 5 to make small light batteries.

@nakedapprentice Год назад

@@Fekillix But with pouch batteries, they are not restricted to certain sizes or shapes, so the number of cells is not an issue.

@toolscientist Год назад

@@Fekillix but pouch cells can be smaller than an 18650 whilst still having a similar power output (less capacity though). I'd like a 1ah XGT that was about half the size of the 2.5ah, would be great for impact driver.

@Fekillix Год назад

@@toolscientist Not possible. Look at the DeWalt power stack. It is taller than the DeWalt single row 1.5, 2 and 3Ah batteries and contains 5 cells. But to get 40V you must have 10 cells, with 5 cells you can only make 18V/20V. So they would need to double the size making it significantly bigger than the current 40V 2.5Ah batteries. Because one cell is 3.6-4V. 3.6*5=18V. 4*10=40V. The large 18V batteries are 3.6*5+3.6*5. There won't be small batteries on XGT, just like there can't be small FlexVolt batteries (they must have 15 cells to make 54/60V, so even larger).

@ergomedasa1362 Год назад

For anyone working at Hikoki that reads this comment, we need a 8ah-36v battery for the multivolt battery line. I am talking from experience after doing quite a lot of heavy duty work demolishing large wood structures with the reciprocating saw(CR36DA), cutting in to reinforced concrete(reinforced with both solid stone and rebar) with the 230mm angle grinder(G3623DA) and last but not least drilled in to concrete with the SDS-Max rotaryhammer(DH36DMA) and it can really drain the batteries fast(yes even the 4ah-36v battery drains fast), so fast in fact that i am stating to worry that it might reduce the lifespan of the batteries to a much larger degree than what is normal. Yes i have the AC adapter but i would much prefer to have to drag along a 36v-8ah or even a 36v-10ah version for that matter than to use the AC adapter on the sort of places i work (I do loads of work requirering both high mobily, strong tools and a battery capacity that allows for prolonged continuos work at high powerdraw).

@nelsoncarpentry 9 месяцев назад

Interesting that Makita NZ shows that the 10" UC002G is compatible with the 8AH, while the otherwise identical 14" UC004G isn't.

@samhassall1926 Год назад

How long will the fridge run at say 10°c with the 8s?

@kizzjd9578 Год назад

At 5°C, in direct sun in nth qld summer, 2x 5ah 18v batteries get about 10 hours. So 2x 8ah 36v batteries would get roughly 36 hours. In the shade I got 24 hours on 2x 5ah batteries.

@user-eg1zn1rw1y Месяц назад

Thank you! Just use a drill to remove this square in the saw and everything fits

@mycoolcar Год назад

As an end user, I look at the tools and the batteries and expect they are all interchangeable. I’ve had tools and batteries not fit each other on the 18v system and it’s a pain. A 4ah battery won’t fit my biscuiting machine, so I have to go find a 3ah. It would be good if makita could do away with the lugs and find another solution, like internal electrical magic so the tool and battery talk to each other.

@kizzjd9578 Год назад

My biscuit joiner fits all 18v batteries, you must have an old one.

@mycoolcar Год назад

@@kizzjd9578 It was purchased about 4 years ago as a skin, from memory the 4ah batteries are older. Ah well, maybe it was an old model when I got it.

@kizzjd9578 Год назад

@@mycoolcar yea maybe mate, i only got mine last year so id say they’ve modified it abit. It’s still only a brushed model so fk all power but doesn’t need it for biscuits.

@kizzjd9578 Год назад

@Dr. WomenHateShortMen 🧐 yes but the 4ah and up has a 30amp maximum discharge rating which means more power output. The 3ah is only 20amps and some older tools weren’t designed for anything more than 20amps.

@elgi131 Год назад

How many recharge cycles do these batteries hold up, before you'd have to buy a replacement?

@riba2233 Год назад

1000-2000, depends on how bad you treat them :)

@sdsfulham Год назад

Will the 5ah and 8ah 40v batteries for the 40v makita planer??

@BuildsStuff Год назад

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@gc7782 Год назад

Can someone please explain in brief what is the main advantage of the 40v platform as compared to 20v? Longer run time? More power? Why not just use a larger battery on the 20v line?

@azsqa6286 Год назад

Watts are amps time volts. Knowing that, a 40v 5ah battery would deliver 200wh whereas a 18v 5ah battery would deliver only 90, or 2.22 times less. So it has more energy inside. Not to mention the higher wattage means more power, and higher voltage increases efficiency, reduces heat, cable sizing, etc. The more power you have the more sense it makes to increase the voltage, which is why grids use extremely high voltages of up to a million volts. The only downside is that once the voltage passes 50 or so volts, it becomes strong enough to pass the resistance of human skin and will kill you.

@gc7782 Год назад

@@azsqa6286 thank you

@josephromero1596 Год назад

Omg it must of cost a fortune to make this video lol

@kizzjd9578 Год назад

Just like the old pre 4, 5 and 6ah 18v tools, knock the tab off the tool with a chisel.

@planespeaking Год назад

*Certain people taking a Dremel to their Makita power tools.*

@alexmills1329 Год назад

Those are the same people that take a metal coat hanger and drill bit to their AR lowers

@Rumeel12708 Год назад

You should make a clay mold if both female and male ports!!! Better visual!!! Or maybe clear hot glue??????

@BuildsStuff Год назад

Are you for real??? How much spare time do you think I have!

@leochemin7901 Год назад

And the sawsall?

@reginald6045 6 месяцев назад

Very annoyed that Makita didn’t go flexvolt or multivolt etc. If you have to start a complete new battery ecosystem with the 40v then there’s no reason not to shift camp entirely! Dewalt is looking awesome!

@BuildsStuff 6 месяцев назад

Look at how many flexvolt batteries get returned, then tell me how awesome DeWalt is looking.

@minispud Год назад

I'm curious if it's a poor man's way to current limit the motor to keep it within a "reasonable" range. The battery and motor from a systems perspective are going to deliver the most power the the least regulated they are and with 8AHr you can dump a lot of energy at once without the battery's voltage dropping to a "low" level and since the tool and the battery are in a balancing act to keep running what you basically will end up with if you have a direct power path is potentially a dangerous thermal situation where those you might be able to just melt the windings immediately. I'm curious if the motors are not regulated whereas on something like the drill driver or a grinder or a big saw they are guaranteed going to be monitored more closely

@gf2e Год назад

A brushed DC motor at max would be a dead short. But this chainsaw has a brushless motor. That means that there’s a motor controller inside the tool using MOSFETs to cycle between three phases, using feedback from the motor to determine how long each pulse should be. This also means that the maximum speed of the motor is trivial to limit, since the motor controller is literally pulsing the coils at the speed of the motor.

@joeskintone9752 Год назад

if 5 ah doesnt kill it the 8 ah shouldnt either, they use different cells but the same chemistry.

@regienaldocate522 Год назад

yes for safety, but also for tool longevity. higher output batteries can give off higher current and some smaller tools cant handle continous working with such current. too much current can cause wiring/ electronic failure. that impact driver can be fitted with larger batteries because it’s equipped with thermal fuse, so if all gets hot the fuse will be the first to fail. i dont know about others but that’s what i think .

@AndrewStrydomBRP Год назад

BS, it's about voltage stability, lower capacity batteries have a higher voltage drop under load, tools will only take the current they are designed to.

@davidblahota5655 Год назад

yee, fits the fridge. Now just gotta wait for the bigger fridge release

@kizzjd9578 Год назад

They got a small one coming out too

@davidblahota5655 Год назад

@@kizzjd9578 the medium one is not big enough for my needs tho :D

@shangri-la-la-la 8 месяцев назад

What I really want Makita to make is a mini fridge with a microwave on top that can charge 2 18V batteries on one side and 2 40V batteries on the other side.

@ergomedasa1362 Год назад

Does anyone know if the 8ah battery will fit on the VC008G Backpack Vacuum Cleaner? I would assume it does but Makita should clearify this on their webpages

@BuildsStuff Год назад

Yes it does

@ergomedasa1362 Год назад

@@BuildsStuff Hi, thank you for the reply, have a great day, greetings from Norway

@robertrada6040 Год назад

A 16AH 18V battery? That’s almost as big as a compact Nuron.

@toolscientist Год назад

Haha. I love Hilti but the last thing I wanted them to do was make their batteries even bigger!

@commentjudger5009 Год назад

Does the mower take them?

@BuildsStuff Год назад

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@viniciusluciano1424 Год назад

My Makita duc 306z is running on two 10 ah and two 13 ah batteries That I assembled myself using Samsung cells

@riba2233 Год назад

What exact cells did you use and how many per pack?

@viniciusluciano1424 Год назад

@@riba2233 For 10 ah I use 15 Samsung 35e and 13ah I use 20 Samsung 35e cells

@StrongmanLovesAnimals Год назад

Makita, I PROMISE canada loves you, please send us these tools lol

@BuildsStuff Год назад

You'll get them eventually. Just think yourself lucky... you have the invisible battery there.

@marshallferron Год назад

Hmm I wouldn't think there'd be any difference between the required PPE for the top handle vs the rear handle chainsaw. My guess is that the bars and chains aren't rated for the higher speeds but as another commenter said it could be the wiring. It would make sense they wouldn't overbuild the top handle chainsaw since it needs to be kept light enough for climbing.

@howardgreen9718 Год назад

Fantastic 😂😂

@Cameron_D Год назад

Makita did something similar back in the day with the "then new" 4-5-6ah 18v batteries, that's why I dumped Makita. I wasn't going to stay with a tool brand that forces you to buy new tools just to get bigger batteries. Milwaukee, bosh, ryobi, dewalt, hitachi/hikoki, they never did that to their customers.

@Fekillix Год назад

Well. Milwaukee had the V28 platform that they abandoned. DeWalt had the 40V platform that they abandoned. The reason Makita did it was because the first iteration did not have thermal protection. When they keep the same platform since 2008 there is going to be some changes.

@pete_lind Год назад

LXT history , series launched 2005 , they had round 30 LXT tools in 2008 , 4Ah battery came in 2013 , 5Ah battery in 2014 and 6Ah battery in 2016 . Makita is one of the rare companies that provide batteries to old tools , you can still buy Ni-MH batteries from Makita , to 1990s tools .

@UltimateToolReviews Год назад

Seems like a simple weight and balance control by Makita. Nothing is stopping Dewalt/Milwaukee from using 12/15ah batteries in there chainsaws. You could slap a 1000ah battery on the tool and it’s still going to work the same as a 4ah battery. Torque test channel proved this.

@smyteyouall8256 Год назад

What I took from the torque test channel was bigger battery's provided more power. Is that what you're saying?

@pete_lind Год назад

If you need 1000Ah , then its easier to use gas powered chainsaw , its way easier to carry 10 gallons of fuel than 1000Ah worth of batteries . Makita has battery backpacks (33,5Ah PDC1200 and 4 slot version PDC01) and 40V connector for those should fit all tools . PDC1200 is 1206Wh , thats 33,5 Ah x 36V , price a bit over €1000 ... biggest is Stihl AR300 41,2Ah , but that cost round €2000 .

@MrHotpl4te Год назад

Rather than "power" output, because its really the same voltage, i think its more to do with weight of the larger batteries causing imbalance during use, or strain on the case of the tool or the battery itself, leading to product failure. And yes they have been put there for a reason. More likely safety of the user, to hopefully achieve longevity in the battery and the tools, so removing the tabs would be stupid and invalidate any warranty. There is a good choice of batteries. Use the best one for the tool and have a few batteries to choose from 👍

@davidboskett5581 Год назад

Is this a new channel or a rename ?

@BuildsStuff Год назад

Not a rename, not a new channel either. This channel has been around for a couple of years and it's where I put vids that are answering people's questions or are too short for Tools & Stuff or a bit off topic or bloopers etc.

@mohammedisaa9952 10 месяцев назад

I like this channel for quick information, the other is when i want to sit down with a cup of tea and biscuits 🙂, both channels are great.... 👍🏻

@dinosaur5647 Год назад

I have the 5.0 and it’s meh not really what I expected but definitely better than the 4.0

@kolrobi Год назад

Why there is no 3Ah battery when the LXT has 6Ah?

@Fekillix Год назад

Because of cell output. The 2.5Ah cells can output more power and are cheaper than the 3Ah cells. Makes more sense to go 2.5Ah to 4Ah cells.

@kolrobi Год назад

@@Fekillix ok, but it does not make sense to have 2Ah and 2.5Ah then? Why would you have only .5 bigger battery in the same size?

@Fekillix Год назад

@@kolrobi The 2.5Ah cells are from Samsung I think, probably the best price to performance cell, so that is what they use the most. Almost all 18V power tools come in 5Ah kits too. Probably easier to standardize but I agree it is strange to sell a 40V 2.5Ah battery.

@kolrobi Год назад

@@Fekillix Thanks. It is strange to sell a 2Ah and 2.5Ah in the same size. Everybody will go for the 2.5Ah if bought separately unless comes in a kit.

@toolscientist Год назад

@@kolrobi the 40V 2ah and 18V are using the Samsung 20R. Good cheap cell that can output 22A. The 40V 2.5ah and 18V 5ah are using the Samsung 25R. Slightly more expensive and only 20A output, but it's the sweet spot cell for power tools. So the reason for 2ah is simply to have a cheaper option.

@thomastan8278 Год назад

It's an extra holding capable for heavy battery.

@stultuses Год назад

It's still very disappointing that Makita didn't make 18v and 40v take the same batteries like some of the other tool providers did It's now rendered the old 18v line eventually end of life which is very upsetting for many of us who had just purchased a number of 18v tools when the 40v was suddenly announced It's beyond belief any makita didn't at least try and make the batteries interchangeable where possible

@michaelbamber4887 Год назад

I don't think they will stop making 18v tools, they have a massive range. They still do the 10.9 volt (12v now) and they have been out years.

@johnmorrison6426 Год назад

Cut tab off

@mohammedisaa9952 10 месяцев назад

Im affraid people will do this, then "showing off to their friends" use the cordless grinder/hand drill ..... way above its rating and designe either driving 2 inch masonary bits into concreate, or cutting 1 inch angle iron... The result will be EXTREME POWER DRAW as the owner presses the tool down to do that job..... either the tool motor will smoke as the battery will give that power, or the wires carrying the power will melt, perhaps even a battery explosion.....????. I would never cut the lugs off, as i wont tempt fate with my life.... Yes people say "only 3 amp more", or something in comments about bushless motors limited by pulses to motor, but its more than 3 amps, and if it was safe than makita would have allowed it..... Makita have testing labs and haven't given reasons why its not safe to run the 8ah in some tools...... respect their testing and dont risk your life.... Please 🙏