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Which Mana Rocks Should You Play in Commander? The Complete Guide 

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Which mana rocks are worth playing in Commander? This is EVERYTHING you need to know!
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@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
28:57 It should be noted that Five Hundred Year Diary is a clue, itself. It should always tap for at least one mana.
@DashhTheOutrider
@DashhTheOutrider 2 месяца назад
Came to the comments to say the above. Great for clue decks.
@robertthomas-ps1nn
@robertthomas-ps1nn 2 месяца назад
is it great? im debating it. I have a morska deck and a bjorna and wergna deck@@DashhTheOutrider
@DashhTheOutrider
@DashhTheOutrider 2 месяца назад
@@robertthomas-ps1nn with that, Urza lord high artificer, & Jaheira friend of the forest mana is a non issue in my deep clue sea deck
@canaanmckerchie1173
@canaanmckerchie1173 2 месяца назад
2 years watching Nitpicking Nerds and found out today the sign changes 😮
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
I mean, it says so right on the sign!
@jeffchatterton9515
@jeffchatterton9515 2 месяца назад
Heraldic banner is a great mana rock. I have it in my Eowyn and Claveleno decks because it's ramp that's also an anthem for my multitude of tokens. It's effectively an anthem that pays for itself over a couple of turns. It's not fixing your mana but it is buffing your board especially in a token deck where you have a lot of creatures that fall into the same color.
@ScottieScottie-uw4xs
@ScottieScottie-uw4xs 2 месяца назад
No love for Grim Monolith in the 2 mana section😢 I love it because it’s mana positive on its own but also combos so easily with a number of cards.
@life_kluda
@life_kluda 2 месяца назад
Probably because it's not budget friendly over 99% cards mentioned.
@armygamelover
@armygamelover 2 месяца назад
As someone with a Nikya of the Old Ways deck...none of them
@matthewollar9842
@matthewollar9842 2 месяца назад
I don’t have a Nikya deck but I run it in my Affinimar deck. 35 Lands, 64 Creatures, 1 Commander.
@andrewsowl8696
@andrewsowl8696 2 месяца назад
My Wort the Raidmother and Riku of the two Reflections (slivers) decks agree
@steamh4mmer264
@steamh4mmer264 2 месяца назад
Id still run sol Ring to get her put faster
@armygamelover
@armygamelover 2 месяца назад
@@steamh4mmer264 but if you draw it later, it's a dead card until your commander is killed. It also isn't buffed by her ability.
@AlphaWolfHowl
@AlphaWolfHowl 2 месяца назад
As someone with a Kinnan deck... all of them.
@biglove9374
@biglove9374 2 месяца назад
The Celestus. mana of any color, has a loot ability that triggers whenever it changes from night to day, on the odd chance someone doesnt cast a spell on their turn it will trigger twice since most likely someone will play more than one spell but you can also pay 4 and have it change on your turn and then it will trigger again whenever it switches back to day.
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 2 месяца назад
2 problems: 1 Do you realy want to track day/night in a non-automated game? 2 How often does it even become night, unless YOU dont play at sorcery speed?
@BobbyBev95
@BobbyBev95 2 месяца назад
The Celestus has been really good for me in my Celestine deck. I think it’s nifty!
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 2 месяца назад
"Mana vault is basically a ritual" Yep, it takes one and makes 3. It's basically a brown dark ritual. Although the nickname "Brown Ritual" may have some issues.
@dapperpotatoes8473
@dapperpotatoes8473 2 месяца назад
Ohhh so that’s why people have candles by their toilets, I knew “it’s to cover the smell” was a lie.
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 Месяц назад
@@dapperpotatoes8473that’s their cauldron
@eveljkov
@eveljkov 2 месяца назад
Easy, in order: 1. If a rock fits a decks theme or is an anagram of your name, put it in. 2. If you have a cool version of it, put it in. 3. Metalworker
@nicktadlock524
@nicktadlock524 2 месяца назад
Great video guys! That one was a banger.
@andrewsutherland1909
@andrewsutherland1909 2 месяца назад
I've been enjoying Honored Heirloom which I feel has gone unnoticed because Crimson Vow wasn't a very well received set. It costs 3 and taps for any color but it has another ability I've found very useful especially later in games. You can pay 2 to tap it and exile a card from any graveyard. A little costly for the mana production but so many decks have some sort of graveyard recursion and having the ability to deny someone bringing back a big creature or combo piece has been clutch.
@erichunt1974
@erichunt1974 2 месяца назад
I was playing a few games of commander with some random dudes I met on a cruise when a fifth party walked over, gave everyone playing Coheed and Cambria rethemed proxies of Mana Crypt, and left without saying a word. Unfortunately, I can't fit the crypt into my Krenko deck, so I'm not entirely sure where I should put it. Thanks for the tips nerds!
@skootchk1253
@skootchk1253 2 месяца назад
What about Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia?
@xeper9458
@xeper9458 2 месяца назад
It's pretty clear they don't particularly like these scalable rocks that are particularly awesome in proliferate decks, which is odd since Mia said she has a poison deck where they fit quite nicely
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
@@xeper9458 I disagree with this. They mentioned the rock that allows you to roll the Planar Die. Everflowing Chalice would absolutely be better than that one. I think it was just an oversight.
@xeper9458
@xeper9458 2 месяца назад
@@crawdaddy2004 the card you are referring to is fractured power stone, which is not a scalable rock like chalice and cornucopia
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
Everflowing Chalice fits in with all the other two mana rocks, it's pretty great and scalable. We weren't sure whether to list it as zero or two or what so it just got left out by mistake
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
@@xeper9458 Right, I was using that as an example of a Rock they did mention but is not as good as Chalice, so it was probably an oversight… which they confirmed in this thread.
@cameronfrey262
@cameronfrey262 2 месяца назад
Watching this in October rn and I love it :)
@Mercarcher
@Mercarcher 2 месяца назад
Chromatic Lantern is needed in my mono black thief deck to be able to cast non-black spells.
@Just-a-Canuck
@Just-a-Canuck 2 месяца назад
I knew it!!! The sign never changes!!!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
Or does it?
@Just-a-Canuck
@Just-a-Canuck 2 месяца назад
🤯
@hiphop2u
@hiphop2u 2 месяца назад
Thank god was looking for something exactly like this
@coolBguy
@coolBguy 2 месяца назад
A good use for Thran dynamo: you can use its mana to foretell a card in your upkeep each turn. Very niche indeed, but almost a 2nd sol ring in Ranar or other foretell decks
@robstuk1
@robstuk1 2 месяца назад
Voltaic key and others like it are good for untapping artifacts like mana vault and basalt monolith, sol ring. Blue has lots of untap permanents.
@heecks9375
@heecks9375 2 месяца назад
I hope it's not only for untaping mana rock because it's a waste of space.
@joshuacostigan4119
@joshuacostigan4119 2 месяца назад
I'm building a deck where Altar of the Pantheon is going to be one of the best ramp sources. A rock so bad it wasn't even mentioned 😅
@nickpolatas8433
@nickpolatas8433 2 месяца назад
I will say in my Abaddon deck, I really enjoy relic of Sauron purely because it both comes in untapped, and has a high enough value to cascade nicely.
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 месяца назад
I do like the suspend mana rocks in my Osgir deck. Wouldnt play them outside of ways to discard them though.
@PinkusTheRat
@PinkusTheRat 2 месяца назад
With machine god's effigy it clones the best creature with a good passive or active ability and it's not a creature anymore since it's just an artifact with the tap for a blue ability added on to it so it can dodge creature removal. I think that makes it a bit better than where you put it. Great video overall though and sorry if this isn't the most grammatically correct comment lol.
@unreferierbar
@unreferierbar 2 месяца назад
Yeah I love that card, I would probably still play it even if it didn't tap for U
@MentalCrusader
@MentalCrusader 2 месяца назад
A great advice I received with Mana Rocks or Ramp in general is, to look at your curve or average mana cost. Many decks rarely can make use of untapped lands/Mana Rocks so entering untapped isn't as important as it would seem in those decks.
@bobfranklin2572
@bobfranklin2572 2 месяца назад
The suspend rocks are fine, not great but definitely fine. And ofc you can cascade into them and get em immediately too
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
But if you’re in a Cascade deck, why aren’t you just guaranteeing Hypergenesis or Gaea’s Will?
@bobfranklin2572
@bobfranklin2572 2 месяца назад
@@crawdaddy2004 because this aint modern or whatever. More fun to get a fair sol ring cheated in that you built around. also Zhulodok
@nilandkanan7256
@nilandkanan7256 2 месяца назад
I have Chromatic Lantern in my Ur-Dragon deck because I also run all 10 fetches, all 10 shocks, ancient tomb, Sylvan Library, and the one ring so I find it nice to turn my fetches into lands that tap for mana. Do you guys think I should still cut it?
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 2 месяца назад
Yes
@Grimmsly
@Grimmsly 2 месяца назад
Just in time. I'm not very experienced in Commander, so I was wondering what artifacts I should use for a Kaalia deck I've been putting together.
@noniddie
@noniddie 2 месяца назад
10:16 Counterargument for green signets/talismans: You will want all the good mana rocks you can get if you're specifically playing Emiel + Abdel Adrian combo. I'd prioritize mana rocks over land ramp if the combo is in my deck.
@blackdoomduck
@blackdoomduck 2 месяца назад
I struggle with mana rocks for mono decks as a lot of the ones I'd normally play like talisman and signet you can't do it's then what do I replace that with
@riverswater5688
@riverswater5688 2 месяца назад
I really love my 6 bobble heads in my Nick Valentine deck. Fun 3 cost mana rocks with upside bonuses as activated abilities
@msolec2000
@msolec2000 Месяц назад
Why not 7?
@mhare0
@mhare0 2 месяца назад
you forgot to mention everflowing chalice in the zero mana section. I know people don't normally pay zero for it because you need to multikicker it to make it good but I think it really good.
@moshjoshpitchief4418
@moshjoshpitchief4418 2 месяца назад
Chromatic lantern in 4 and 5 color decks that demand many different pips is fantastic. Ur dragon atraxa etc especially. Playing multiple spells late game xan sometimes be an issue with colors more often than you think
@craigstuckey319
@craigstuckey319 2 месяца назад
Signets do suck and so do the pay a colorless to get 2 colors lands. Spending mana to get mana just feels bad.
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 2 месяца назад
But it’s powerful for mana fixing. You know how many times you need a specific color combo or extra color of one to cast the spell or activate an ability. They’re flexible.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
I think for every time you tap out for a signet and can't follow up with a one-mana play, there's times where you turn a colorless mana into two colored mana and cast an extra spell
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 2 месяца назад
@@NitpickingNerds turning colorless Mann’s into color man’s always feels good!
@nathanlucas4861
@nathanlucas4861 2 месяца назад
Thoughts on crowded crypt for an aristocrat deck such as Teysa or drivnod?
@nickchaput219
@nickchaput219 2 месяца назад
I've been moving away from signets and Talismans. Just running more land and land ramp.
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 2 месяца назад
I feel like it’s better to do that for starting hands ratio wise, consistency, a possibly a better card for discard or looting effects, wheel effects
@pilcrowe
@pilcrowe 16 дней назад
Machine Gods effigy is actually a staple for me. The best Creature on the battlefield stapeled on an artifact that taps for Mana immediately is so good. Try it out and See for yourself.
@dustinmoyer8131
@dustinmoyer8131 2 месяца назад
I've used and seen Chromatic Launter used super well many times. Most times if it was instead a 2 mana rock in early game there is VERY little you may do with that 1 mana.
@Dark-Pikachu1
@Dark-Pikachu1 2 месяца назад
10:22 what about the clue precon that cares about artifacts i have it it has signets in it
@webbc99
@webbc99 2 месяца назад
I still run Commander Sphere and Chromatic Lantern in my high power Sliver deck. There are just too many Slivers that need WUBRG mana, and it's absolutely crucial to be able to play your commander on turn 4. That means playing either of these on turn 3.
@williamkeiser7562
@williamkeiser7562 2 месяца назад
Sometimes green decks actually do want rocks. Just really depends on the direction you go with it. I just built yarus, and I use mana rocks as all the ramp sources for it. I also have a small colorless theme going and a talisman and signet actually stick to the board when flipped as a manifest with yarus while a nature's lore and three visits wouldn't.
@kliop123432
@kliop123432 2 месяца назад
Five Hundred Year Diary would produce at least one blue since it's also a clue. Great guide though! :D
@TigierCG
@TigierCG 2 месяца назад
Whats your opinion on the Medaillons? It does net you positive mana. But differently And in some cases more mana the more you Cast
@kartenspieler0863
@kartenspieler0863 2 месяца назад
I really like Relic of Legends in a deck with a cheap commander.
@evanelliott8231
@evanelliott8231 2 месяца назад
Coveted jewel is the perfect thing to flicker with Displacer kitty. Also really like making clones of it in Mishra. Also play it in Gandalf double triggers. Also play it in Yarok…. I might just love coveted jewel.
@davidhower7095
@davidhower7095 2 месяца назад
Chromatic Lantern is a mainstay in my colorless Sunburst deck because color identity rules don’t like mana symbols.
@chaserevstuning9271
@chaserevstuning9271 2 месяца назад
I like chromatic lantern, very reliable and never worrying about tapping lands for color is nice.
@BoxOfFear
@BoxOfFear 2 месяца назад
I like Phial of Galadriel and the Sonic Screwdriver. But I acknowledge that I might be the only one.
@cptregalz8091
@cptregalz8091 2 месяца назад
I don't know if you forgot it or don't count it as a mana rock, but a card I discovered recently is Inspiring Statuary. It gives non-artifact spells improvise, so it can tap itself (and any other artifact) to help pay for other spells. This can provide a lot of mana if you're in a deck that has artifacts that aren't rocks, but you're not in a heavy, all-in artifacts deck. Although that may sound specific, I think there are more and more decks that fit exactly that with all the food, clue, blood, junk, etc. tokens they are making. I play it in my Sharuum deck which has a decent amount of good artifacts that help me pay for other, Nitpicking Nerds approved cards lol. It feels so good to tap Inspiring Statuary, Sensei's Divining Top, and a black mana to surprise people with a Soul Shatter! P.S. Chromatic Orrery is fun too! Expensive but refunds most of the mana right away. Maybe works better in decks that can cheat it in, idk 🤷‍♂️ I also play it in that Sharuum deck where I can reanimate from graveyard. But it wasnt on the list and thought it might be worth mentioning to some!
@go1988
@go1988 2 месяца назад
Inspiring Statuary is so good in my Ognis deck ☺
@cptregalz8091
@cptregalz8091 2 месяца назад
@@go1988 omg yes! I also have an ognis deck and honestly had not considered that
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 2 месяца назад
It's really, really good
@MrRandsauce
@MrRandsauce 2 месяца назад
Yeah, it's a dope card.
@BeaglzRok1
@BeaglzRok1 2 месяца назад
I like Thran Turbine in a Karn, Silver Golem deck because it gives you two free pops of an artifact token on your upkeep. It's not good by any stretch, but it's funny to have a couple of treasure tokens explode due to having 0 toughness, or even hit a Mox Amber in the Jodah Superlegends deck. A note about the guild signets, since I'm EXTRA casual and don't much care for including ramp when lands should be considered good enough: when I'm on 3+ colors, I prioritize the guild signets that provide the color pairs that you need. It's not bad to have an Izzet Signet in a Grixis deck, but if you have a bunch of UB-costed spells, while all of your R spells are mono-R, then having to filter mana into an Izzet Signet over a Dimir Signet will force you to have another black source on top of the "rock." Similar note, if you have a lot of multi-pip cards, don't run colorless lands and colorless rocks together, you will eventually have that moment of frustration when despite running a mono-color deck, you could have saved yourself with the cards in hand if only you could actually make enough colored mana. It's part of my bias against Sol Ring being considered a good card, the strongest performance I've seen is using it for a turn 1 signet and then consistently missing land drops as an instant luck counterbalance. I like Chromatic Lantern simply for nostalgia. On the subject of Ravnica, MASSIVE miss on WotC for not reprinting the guild cluestones with "artifact - clue" errata in the MKM set, it might have actually given them some niche use in Investigate decks. One final shoutout to Meteorite: 5 mana for 2 damage to any target that taps for one of any color. It's bad, but when you get to pull off removal by throwing a mana rock at something, it's hilarious.
@user-ev1pt1uk9i
@user-ev1pt1uk9i 2 месяца назад
5:06 I don't usually comment on videos but if we're not just talking generally. I think mox tantalite and sol talisman are great in cascade decks like yidris.
@thedanath
@thedanath 2 месяца назад
Pillar of Origins is great in multicolour tribal decks at least if your not running green . Almost a 3rd of my Edgar deck is vampire creatures so the Pillar is useful.
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg 2 месяца назад
I play 4 mana rocks in tibalt but the whole deck is just mana.
@Rizso1
@Rizso1 2 месяца назад
my favorite 3 mana rck atm is stafff of completion. I run it in superfriends.
@roflsnpwncakes
@roflsnpwncakes 2 месяца назад
it’s also above $200 and way above the power level that this channel typically talks about
@davidhower7095
@davidhower7095 2 месяца назад
¿¿¿¿¿Staff of Compleation is $6 though????? like okay it is kinda cracked but that life payment gets real steep real fast.
@roflsnpwncakes
@roflsnpwncakes 2 месяца назад
@@davidhower7095 lol i replied to the wrong person
@dimitriid
@dimitriid 2 месяца назад
One thing that has really helped my decks was to make space for rituals (Both as sorceries, based on creatures or based on sacrificed rocks) instead of the mana rocks: basically got rid of all of my mana rocks that are 3 CMC or higher (I do make an exception for Decanter of Endless Water for the no-hand-limit effect) and just ended up using a lot more mana rituals and just focus on doing what needs doing right away. So while I do have some of the very cedh fast rocks in there even without them and given decent card draw and/or graveyard recursion, playing mana rituals is something commander players should get into the habit of doing instead of this unsspoken-but-implied rule zero conversations where 'We're playing casual' translates to 'Don't use fast mana so we can build up board states' Sometimes there is something to be said about cedh and being able to just resolve a commander game inside 30-40 minutes instead of inevitably turning into 1-2 hour affairs on *average* which can get tiresome at times.
@rowanash7716
@rowanash7716 2 месяца назад
Where would you place Sonic Screwdriver?
@uvtqs6344
@uvtqs6344 2 месяца назад
I agree with mot but the last one, the empowered autogenerator is pretty good in proliferate decks, I have seen it give around 8 mana on turn 5.
@18Zeke
@18Zeke 2 месяца назад
What are your thoughts on Chromatic Orrery, especially in a 5 coloured deck?
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
I think if you run ways to untap it, allowing you to both use the mana and draw the card, it’s good. However, if you’re only using it as a mana rock, it’s just a glorified Chromatic Orrery.
@jeffscalise5927
@jeffscalise5927 2 месяца назад
I like Paradise Mantle in Rog decks.
@AlphaWolfHowl
@AlphaWolfHowl 2 месяца назад
Arcane signet is an auto include in nearly every deck. Ramping for any mana is just so good.
@MB-ub1qi
@MB-ub1qi 2 месяца назад
for me the card draw on coveted jewel works in mono colored, cuz you can get it back & draw3, encourage attacks away from you, 6 for 3 cards is ugh, but you instantly get 3 mana back.
@logandooley4426
@logandooley4426 2 месяца назад
I also rarely play 3 mana rocks but my main slivers deck does play skyclave relic as it is an artifact with indestructible which is valuable because of harmonic sliver which destroys artifacts and enchantments and it’s not a “may” ability so often you’ll destroy all of them and be forced to start killing your own stuff but if you have the skyclave relic you can target that and it won’t break
@user-bk4yz3jk8g
@user-bk4yz3jk8g 2 месяца назад
I took Harmonic out for that exact reason, blowing up your own stuff sucks lol
@logandooley4426
@logandooley4426 2 месяца назад
@@user-bk4yz3jk8g true I still like it in mine because if I have skyclave it’s amazing and if I don’t. My commander is overlord so I can just go get any of my slivers that let me sac my slivers and get get rid of harmonic myself Sometimes it can get annoying but it’s removal power is so high I’ve kept mine in because there are ways around the downside but few things that are that good at continuous removal
@Hashbrown1682
@Hashbrown1682 2 месяца назад
With Commander's Sphere it's math Cuz is comparable to mind stone You just pay 1 for the card upfront.
@markdziamski4859
@markdziamski4859 2 месяца назад
Heraldic Banner is a beast in my Ovika Deck
@J21UA
@J21UA 2 месяца назад
What is your take on Chromatic Orrery?
@gregbridge
@gregbridge 2 месяца назад
Would you find that chromatic lantern is good in at least a 5 color deck?
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 2 месяца назад
No.
@arkknight92
@arkknight92 2 месяца назад
Sol ring, arcane signet, fellwar stone, thought vessel, mind stone, liquids metal torque, talismans, and signets in non cedh.
@henlohenlo689
@henlohenlo689 2 месяца назад
vintage deck idea, rate it. each card listed is 4 copies of it. then 24 total lands, 4 stomping grounds and 4 wooded foothills 8 mountains 8 forest. so here is the cards in the deck: turn things to artifact: liquimetal coating liquimetal torque(can add mana) mycosynth lattice generate or destroy mana: wall of roots(decent blocker) overgrown battlement(decent blocker) dwarven miner destroy artifacts: shattering pulse gorilla shaman steelbane hydra win condition? after destroy all permanents on the opponents side of board can chip down opponent with whatever creatures are on the board. eventually a giant steelbane hydra at some point.
@BlitzFlix1
@BlitzFlix1 2 месяца назад
29:00 Slightly nitpicky point, but Five Hundred Year Diary will always tap for one blue since it's a Clue itself. Totally agree though that it's great in Clue heavy decks specifically and otherwise not great.
@Quim833
@Quim833 2 месяца назад
Why crowded Crypt is never taken in consideration? i think its pretty good
@iamnotcameron
@iamnotcameron 2 месяца назад
I only play with 3 friends fairly new to the game. But, Urtet with a Chromatic Lantern is a problem. That or Eleven Chorus is generally either a) I win, or b) I get targeted. I love lantern.
@Knightgum2
@Knightgum2 2 месяца назад
Kinda hoped you guys would mention the new bobbleheads from the fallout set. I guess they all line up as bad/mid tho because they are basically mana sinks mostly.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
We covered them pretty briefly; they are just meant as their own deck and aren't worth playing individually
@wadewilson5712
@wadewilson5712 2 месяца назад
i use "Chromatic lantern" in 5 color decks only for the mana fixing and "Decanter of endless water" in decks that are more than 2 colors and the decks have A Lot of draw.
@hiphop2u
@hiphop2u 2 месяца назад
Can’t you just run Thran Turbine in conjunction with filter lands/signets? I have at least 2 filter lands, and 1 signet in every deck. Seems viable.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
You get the mana in your upkeep, so it's pretty awkward. I think your commander would need an activated ability
@alansmithee920
@alansmithee920 2 месяца назад
I still swear by darksteel ingot, I dont care what you guys say. My playgroup is so disenchant and wrath-happy it still pulls its weight. I hate sitting down across from a green or white deck, and they just decide to play that 3 mana disenchant bear, and they look around the board looking for the right thing to shatter. They always end up looking over at my talismans and signets, and then I have to mind rot them.
@EntropicUsername
@EntropicUsername 2 месяца назад
Enigma Jewel is not a bad mana rock. It's an amazing mana rock. Just an amazing mana rock for specific decks. Yes, only for activated abilities is restrictive, but much like powerstones, it is much less restrictive than you think. As examples, if your commander has an activated ability you intend to use often, or you're generating a lot of clues (which we just got a lot of support for), then Enigma Jewel being a one mana rock that makes two mana towards that thing you're gonna be doing a lot is amazing. And if you're in a deck that does either of these things, there are plenty of low opportunity cost ways to fluff up that activated ability count, like staple utility lands and the signet lands. If you turn 1 Enigma Jewel, turn 2 Will the Wise crack a clue, you are very happy. Yes, it needs a home, but that home is not very weird. I also think you undersell Staff of Compleation. The alt mode of drawing a card if you don't need the mana is very strong, even if the life cost is steep. It can be good in most non-green decks whose curve isn't particularly lean.
@seanriley2695
@seanriley2695 2 месяца назад
I surprised y’all didn’t mention everflowing chalice in the 2 mana slot. Can be played later for more mana if it’s a slower game, and it’s insane if you are in a proliferation deck
@BadMa5a
@BadMa5a 2 месяца назад
HeyHey. Good Video. I agree either way most of it except for Chromatic Lantern. 🥴🤪
@kv2315
@kv2315 2 месяца назад
imo you forgot the 3-colour obelisks they are great if you are on a budget and do get you the colour you need.
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 2 месяца назад
Manalith ($0.05) The Celestus ($0.75) Altar of the Pantheon ($0.07) Bonder's Ornament ($0.06) Commander's Sphere ($0.10) Coalition Relic ($0.41) Darksteel Ingot ($0.19) Fountain of Ichor ($0.07) Honored Heirloom ($0.07) Lantern of Revealing ($0.07) Letter of Acceptance ($0.03) Mana Geode ($0.14) Network Terminal ($0.05) Phyrexian Atlas ($0.04) Replicating Ring ($0.31) Skyclave Relic ($0.77) Vessel of Endless Rest ($0.12) All budget, all better than the obelisk cycle, all have the ability to add some weird sort of synergy. Took about 5 minutes to find. I purposely left out artifact creatures. Just no reason whatsoever to play obelisks.
@bendiv7999
@bendiv7999 2 месяца назад
As osgir player i really like the tantilite mox + co
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
13:45 I have Sphere of the Suns in one deck: Zedruu. I give it away after using the counters up. 😂 17:40 Coincidentally this is also the only deck I have Staff of Compleation in. It’s a Duel Commander deck, and the win condition is Illusions of Grandeur. 😅
@jamesgale2480
@jamesgale2480 Месяц назад
On the 2 cmc mana rock you did miss Grim Monolith, I don't know if this was intentional, but I thought i should mention it. Lol
@GravityB2
@GravityB2 2 месяца назад
What do you think about Crowded Crypt in aristocrats decks? also side note: I'm glad to see someone else's passionate hate towards Cryptex, why was this card even made? there's no format for it.
@xeper9458
@xeper9458 2 месяца назад
Cryptex exists because lazy design. Crowded Crypt is great in mono black or dual colored aristocrats decks
@huntaustill
@huntaustill 2 месяца назад
first video I saw of yours I thought "neat, I like their random facts/truths." now I think "what are they going to say this time!?" keep it up
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
Thank you! :D
@mikeschlott
@mikeschlott 2 месяца назад
What about the medallion cycle?
@TubbyBubbleLove42
@TubbyBubbleLove42 2 месяца назад
They seemed to focus on adding mana cards rather than reducing mana cost cards.
@TubbyBubbleLove42
@TubbyBubbleLove42 2 месяца назад
What's your take on Crowded Crypt?
@raiderdevellian5752
@raiderdevellian5752 2 месяца назад
I just don't agree at all about Chromatic lantern. Do you know how much time you save by not having a mana puzzle when trying to pick out the correct sequence of colors to use? I just don't agree
@hrdcrWired
@hrdcrWired 2 месяца назад
What about Chromatic Orrerry?
@lordpokesmoke
@lordpokesmoke 2 месяца назад
Honestly Scyclave Relic is great if you play in a meta with a lot of artifact wipes, and to a lesser extent Darkstell Ingot
@GrizzneyGames
@GrizzneyGames 2 месяца назад
That sign never changes
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 месяца назад
Name one time it changed
@inkedteddy4627
@inkedteddy4627 11 дней назад
Pyramid of the Pantheon in a proliferate deck is actually pretty good.
@brandonrichardson9458
@brandonrichardson9458 2 месяца назад
We use chrom lantern because bloodmoon is popular in our group
@laurentrobitaille2204
@laurentrobitaille2204 2 месяца назад
Wouldn’t Pyramid of the Pantheon kinda be playable in proliferate decks?
@kozad86
@kozad86 Месяц назад
Enigma Jewel would be great in any deck with a commander or a bunch of creatures in the 99 with activated abilities. Pair it up with Training Ground and Forensic Investigator in a Memnarch deck? Oof, you’ll be unstoppable. 🤣
@robertwicks5733
@robertwicks5733 2 месяца назад
WDYT about sonic screwdriver?
@TheUltimateRey
@TheUltimateRey 2 месяца назад
I wish sol ring wasn’t a part of commander but it feels wrong not putting it in a deck especially when every precon comes with one
@breakingpoint3289
@breakingpoint3289 2 месяца назад
Cromatic lantern plus the auto sac fetch lands is when is op as shit when in landfall decks
@birdman9580
@birdman9580 2 месяца назад
What about Grim Monolith?
@aerynmusick4548
@aerynmusick4548 2 месяца назад
Beezy, be careful pushing through a sore throat! It’s easy to do damage to your voice if you’re using a numbing agent. Take care of yourself, we can wait a day!
@joshclarke7063
@joshclarke7063 2 месяца назад
Where was Elementalist's Palette!?
@unreferierbar
@unreferierbar 2 месяца назад
The Golden Throne is very specifically *very good* in Slimefoot and Squee - puts S&S in the graveyard and pays for almost all of the activation cost in one fell swoop!
@dirtyfrench2926
@dirtyfrench2926 2 месяца назад
I ran it in a group slug Prossh. I constantly sac'ed Prossh so it helped pay for the commander tax.
@coreystelton6551
@coreystelton6551 2 месяца назад
Commander sphere is a better mind stone. Doesn't cost mana to activate so you can tap for mana and sac and draw a card and makes colored mana. For 1 more it's totally worth it especially if you have recursion. I love it in my Carmen the Cruel Skymarcher deck because it is just free card draw every turn if I want.
@Rizso1
@Rizso1 2 месяца назад
2 mana rocks > 3 manarocks, 3 mana rocks needs a big bonus.
@coreystelton6551
@coreystelton6551 2 месяца назад
IMO making colored mana vs colorless and not needing to pay or tap it to sac for a card draw seems like big enough bonus to me. But I run both mind stone and sphere@@Rizso1
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 2 месяца назад
@@coreystelton6551yea the mana rocks really depend on your deck strategy and mana curve. For an aggro deck, mind stone is a 2 drop that adds 1 colorless on turn 2 possibly. Hit a land drop on turn 3 with mind stone you got 4 mana total. The colorless won’t have to use your specific land drop to cast spells either. But commander sphere is great for higher mana curves, colors with with needs for card draw,
@TheBrymanCometh
@TheBrymanCometh 2 месяца назад
No everflowing Chalice?
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