Which Outlaws of Thunder Junction Precon Is The Best? 

I think people look at upgrading Gonti the wrong way. I don't think the focus should be adding MORE theft cards or cards that give value from playing from exile (except Tasha she's amazing). I think the goal is ramping ahead of your opponents in order to play the cards you steal more often and focusing on cards that reward you for attacking. There's a few ways to go about this and you can even mix them together. Option 1 is to play cards that will untap your lands (preferably while it's still your turn). Great option include Nature's Will, Bear Umbra and if you're really balling Sword of Feast and Famine. These cards also synergize with your theme of getting value through combat. Other options are cards like Seedborn Muse will allow you to have mana up for all your potential interaction. Option 2 is to play cards that allows you to play extra lands per turn. At first this may sound weird but from my testing a fair amount of the cards you'll be stealing are lands that feel subpar to hit most of the time especially the later the game goes on. However if you play cards like exploration or Azusa this allows you to ramp faster than your opponents and make the lands you steal a bit more valuable. This also helps your strategy by just having more mana to cast more spells that you stole. The final option is to lean heavy in effects that reward you for combat. The precon not only wants you to be aggressive and swing at your opponents, it rewards you for doing so successfully. So I believe that leaning heavily into this not only helps you get that early game value since most of your evasive creature are low to ground as far as mana cost, it also opens up the support for a ninjutsu subtheme that the deck naturally synergizes with. Cards that fit this category include Thada Adel, Varragoth Bloodsky Sire (with has funny synergy with Opposition Agent), Glissa Sunslayer, Lord of The Void (which fits your stealing theme). Finally some personal tech cards that may help include Lantern of Insight, Hunted Horror (it's hard to beat a turn two 7/7 with trample and the tokens it makes can be evaded by other cards), Cephalid Facetaker, Warkite Marauder (makes it safer for your less evasive creatures to swing), Xanathar, Opposition Agent (duh), Memory Lapse (usually pretty mediocre but in this deck it's kinda crazy) and finally Sonic Screwdriver and Kaito Shizuki (these just synergize with the deck very well).

Tomer’s back has to be killing him after carrying the channel for so long

I’d love to see manabase as a ranking criteria

thank you for the extra work you put in for these decks.

You can tell Tomer put in a ton of work with this video, good stuff

Love your new style of reviewing the decks. it really helps to form a good impression, thx.

I watched a bunch of content creators play these decks out of the box and I haven't seen the Sultai theft deck win a single game yet.

Thank you for this! I love this format of ratings, hope to see more in future sets, and woukd you consider doing this for previuos sets? Im new to magic and really enjoy commander but not many sources exist that cover precious sets(plus maybe older sets have benefited from new cards)

Stella Lee is for sure a cEDH commander, maybe the best izzet cEDH commander Still needs testing but it has potential

Thank you for the video Tomer! :)

Tomer is the kind of player everyone wants at their table, but that spikes resent for doing splashy things without invoking the wrath of the table. Never change.

Omnath, locus of rage and avenger of zendikar definitely are finishers too in the desert bloom

I’d like to see a category, not necessarily for upgrades with unlimited potential. But how good the deck is with 5-10 cards changed.

currently working on upgrading the desert bloom not a big deal, but you said 17 deserts in the deck, when there's 15 or am i missing something in the list?

Cards like fain and tradingpost make more sense in metas where the board isn't cleared every other turn. Personally i like them in partikular with enough sac fodder.

For cuts in Most Wanted the mana rocks should be removed. There are an endless supply of high quality outlaws in the 2-3 mana range to play instead of mana rocks. With Olivia you want to curve into her naturally on turns 1-3, then on turn 4 play Olivia, and you immediately start triggering her to generate Treasure tokens. The treasure tokens even come into play untapped so you can leave protection up. Mana rocks ironically slow down your gameplan since you spend the early turns playing artifacts instead of playing the outlaws that make you treasure tokens.

I’ve always loved gonti, and im a golgari guy, when i saw him there was no other choice

Tomer is a handsome man

Yea Stella is super easy to break.

When I saw just the image of Quick Draw, I imagined it’s was drawing deck, I thought my I could have put My Lotus God in the deck. Maybe 🤔. But your upgrades I support it.

Thanks for the review! It seems like everyone is extremely torn on these commander decks. I don't think there's been much consensus across different content creators haha. Lesson: go play the deck that appeals to you! 😄

i like the tomer rate at most. on the other side power is the most booring to me. if i wanna play powerfull i go cedh instead of lying to everyone.

Grand larceny, and most wanted, feel better for my play styles. It is what it is. 😅

It is the Quick draw and it is not even close, even in casual setting, at least for me. The number of content creator games I have seen and the deck always pop off and spiral out of control. The Weakest is the thief deck which pain me a lot. It is a toss up between the Desert and Outlaw themed deck for me.. Both are good, but kinda "weakened" by their alt commander subtheme Also, Stella Lee is already beginning to show some "results" in the cEDH community in their testing. The number of 1 card wincons with her is insane

im actually making a jasper flint deck, seemed to be way more fun than olivia

seeing the final 3 and the Desert one is not there "imagine being soo wrong about desert power". in all seriousness it's the only one that is doing something unique as a theme considering how niche deserts are; we've all seen izzet spellslinger, thief decks, and treasures matter

I would be careful comparing Yuma to Hazezon and I think that consideration is very important when updating the Desert Bloom deck. Hazezon is the landfall commander -- you play deserts and make tokens. Yuma, however, is not a landfall commander. Nothing about Yuma's text cares about putting lands into play; desert or otherwise. And outside of deserts and Naya staples the decklist between the two should be very different. That's because Yuma is a graveyard commander. Yuma is a Naya version of Sidisi, Brood Tyrant. I think the upgrades you want are cards like dredge staples, wheels, Altar of Dementia, Greater Good... Hermit Druid and Underworld Breech. You want to turbo fill your graveyard with possibly the entirety of your library then win from there. I think that's why the default deck feels unfocused. It's because it is trying to be both a landfall deck and graveyard deck and I think the upgrade should focus on one or the other.

The moment u accidentally choose the Land mode of Catastrophe while piloting Desert deck... 🙆‍♂

Can I suggest an update to the points system so that that A=3pt, B=1pt, C=0pt. This would be like in soccer where a win in a league match gets 3, a draw gets 1, and a loss gets 0.

I'm surprised Tomer is still on 3 Wraths for his deck techs when apparently everyone has to run 9 now 😂

"I made a new scoring system because people didn't like that they ranked too similarly last time" proceeds to give the decks 10, 10, 10, and 12 :^)

All I read before this video is hate to Most Wanted and Grand Larceny. Specifically with Grand Larceny.

no mount precon

At least take the decks out for dinner first

Stella's deck is lame and not even the prof could see it.

You should take out all the Tomer gradings and rankings no one cares

what-lyzing?